OK, after reading a bunch of posts today, I'm dizzy as h3ll, and very confused.
We have two updates that came out OTA in the past couple of days.
1.139.04_4.010.40_COM_GEN1
And then we have
1.141.07_4.010.13_COM_GEN2
I bought my Tablet at Walmart in Watertown, NY, and it was a GEN1 with HC 3.01 on it.
Now some are saying that Acer switched over to GEN2 for US tablets as of the 3.1 update. (I'm not naming names).
I've run multiple custom ROMs on my tablet, and recently went back to see how stable the Acer releases have been. I downloaded both of the files listed above, (actually 11 GEN2 then OTA update to 13).
One person stated that the GEN1 was an Australian release, and that the GEN 2 was the US release. I can confirm what someone else said, that they both have GPS.conf files for north America, not Europe, nor Australia. Now I've seen many custom ROMS with different GPS.conf files in them ie: Europe, North America, etc.
Here's my question, how can we know for certain #1 which update is indeed for which country, as they're both seemingly configured for use in North America, unless Acer is really messing things up and issuing updates for Australia with the GPS configured for north America, and it certainly wouldn't surprise me.
And #2, which update is the newest, as someone else stated that the prefix with the highest number is the latest version, and yet another said it was the one with the higher end number is the latest!
If someone knows the real answer to these two questions, please stand up!
Otherwise it's going to get very confusing when trying to give advice to others asking questions about updates if they don't like waiting on Acer to get their act together.
TIA
XBoxD00D said:
OK, after reading a bunch of posts today, I'm dizzy as h3ll, and very confused.
We have two updates that came out OTA in the past couple of days.
1.139.04_4.010.40_COM_GEN1
And then we have
1.141.07_4.010.13_COM_GEN2
I bought my Tablet at Walmart in Watertown, NY, and it was a GEN1 with HC 3.01 on it.
Now some are saying that Acer switched over to GEN2 for US tablets as of the 3.1 update. (I'm not naming names).
I've run multiple custom ROMs on my tablet, and recently went back to see how stable the Acer releases have been. I downloaded both of the files listed above, (actually 11 GEN2 then OTA update to 13).
One person stated that the GEN1 was an Australian release, and that the GEN 2 was the US release. I can confirm what someone else said, that they both have GPS.conf files for north America, not Europe, nor Australia. Now I've seen many custom ROMS with different GPS.conf files in them ie: Europe, North America, etc.
Here's my question, how can we know for certain #1 which update is indeed for which country, as they're both seemingly configured for use in North America, unless Acer is really messing things up and issuing updates for Australia with the GPS configured for north America, and it certainly wouldn't surprise me.
And #2, which update is the newest, as someone else stated that the prefix with the highest number is the latest version, and yet another said it was the one with the higher end number is the latest!
If someone knows the real answer to these two questions, please stand up!
Otherwise it's going to get very confusing when trying to give advice to others asking questions about updates if they don't like waiting on Acer to get their act together.
TIA
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Wow no answers to this post. Especially with everyone knowing everything in other threads.....amazing!
Here we go...This is from Acer's patch documents and best shows the current separate code trains...
A. Countries: UK/France/Italy/Spain
- Affected OS versions:
Acer_A500_4.010.22_COM_GEN1
Acer_A500_4.010.30_COM_GEN1
- After installing the update, you are advised to update your tablet’s operating system to:
Acer_A500_4.010.38_COM_GEN1
Acer_A500_4.010.38_7.006.01_COM_GEN1 (3.2)
B. Country: USA
- Affected OS versions:
Acer_A500_4.010.07_COM_GEN2
Acer_A500_4.010.08_COM_GEN2
Acer_A500_4.010.09_COM_GEN2
- After installing the update, you are advised to update your tablet’s operating system to:
Acer_A500_4.010.10_COM_GEN2
Acer_A500_4.010.11_COM_GEN2
Acer_A500_4.010.13_COM_GEN2 NEW
C. Countries: Singapore/Malaysia/Thailand/Philippines/India/Vietnam/
Indonesia/Australia/New Zealand
- Affected OS versions:
Acer_A500_4.010.12_COM_GEN1
Acer_A500_4.010.24_COM_GEN1
- After installing the update, you are advised update your tablet’s operating system to:
Acer_A500_4.010.40_COM_GEN1
Acer_A500_4.010.40_7.006.03_COM_GEN1 (3.2)
D. Countries: Taiwan/Hong Kong
- Affected OS version:
Acer_A500_4.010.23_COM_GEN1
- After installing the update, you are advised to update your tablet’s operating system to:
Acer_A500_4.010.39_COM_GEN1
Acer_A500_4.010.41_COM_GEN1
Acer_A500_4.010.41_7.006.01_COM_GEN1
I'm trying to sort through them to perhaps find/explain some differences.... other than the wifi driver (different countries allow different channels).
The one thing I can tell you is that no matter which rom i've looked at, all of the roms have the following lines in build.prop..
ro.product.locale.language=en
ro.product.locale.region=US
That said, we can add LAZY to the description of ACER. The thing that makes this most murky is the fact the people like us are more inclined to find instant gratification. That is, we download the newest version of the rom (or so we think) rather than the newest regional version. If you look at the above listings and you are on one of the lower versions for any of the above regions, looking for the OTA on the tablet itself will lead you through the upgrade paths listed for each region.
In all honesty we should have a mod sticky a thread for this so all inbound noobs can see it and avoid some grief.
dottat said:
In all honesty we should have a mod sticky a thread for this so all inbound noobs can see it and avoid some grief.
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I agree! It's tough enough as it is helping ppl with the current naming process by Acer, or lack thereof!
Should, could, would, good luck!
Moving to Q&A.
PS: Every Q? thread should be posted in Q&A.
Of course the naming convention is only confusing if you're going off the rails with your tab - those of us who just leave them stock and install OTA's don't particularly care or pay attention to the update names.
Buy tablet > use tablet > get incremental > use tablet > get 3.1 > use tablet > get incremental > use tablet...
I'm waiting until the life cycle on this puppy nears its end before I do any ROM'ming. I'm a little paranoid that way but mostly I'm happy with vanilla. I also get confused by all the different steps - update, backup, clear this, clear that, install this, then update with that... I know, it can't be that complicated but I'm easily ditractac....
Oh look, a butterfly!
...
As I was saying, when you spread the peanut butter over the toast you could have added the honey first, thereby eliminating the danger or bread-breakage and...
gammaRascal said:
Of course the naming convention is only confusing if you're going off the rails with your tab - those of us who just leave them stock and install OTA's don't particularly care or pay attention to the update names.
Buy tablet > use tablet > get incremental > use tablet > get 3.1 > use tablet > get incremental > use tablet...
I'm waiting until the life cycle on this puppy nears its end before I do any ROM'ming. I'm a little paranoid that way but mostly I'm happy with vanilla. I also get confused by all the different steps - update, backup, clear this, clear that, install this, then update with that... I know, it can't be that complicated but I'm easily ditractac....
Oh look, a butterfly!
...
As I was saying, when you spread the peanut butter over the toast you could have added the honey first, thereby eliminating the danger or bread-breakage and...
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Yeah bro, you best stick to OTA, you don't want to get too confused, and overtax yourself lol
Now... if we could get custom rom devs to make a couple different versions we'd be in business too...
Please tell me where to get the kernel module tun.ko 2.6.36.3Hoeyillian-3.4 +
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Please tell me where to get the kernel module tun.ko 2.6.36.3Hoeyillian-3.4 +
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I wouldn't try to get that as a standalone file unless you *really* know what you are doing, like an experienced linux sysadmin/developer. The simplest thing to do would be to just install the latest HoneyVillain kernel, currently at 3.6.
Frankly, I'd like to see something (preferably from Acer) about what each update actually provides us PRIOR to accepting the OTA. Heck, I can't even find that information when upgrading custom ROMs from like v3.2 to v3.2.1. I'm the type of person who always waited to see how much (for example) SP3 would break Windows XP before installing it myself.
are these ics or hc if they are ics check out my article on how to unbrick your tablet(also how to manually update to ics) PS: if you have already upgraded to ics via custom rom or acer you probably wont be able to go back to HC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1699277
using custom rom is more simple.
Advice for interested Newbies for updating
gammaRascal said:
Of course the naming convention is only confusing if you're going off the rails with your tab - those of us who just leave them stock and install OTA's don't particularly care or pay attention to the update names.
Buy tablet > use tablet > get incremental > use tablet > get 3.1 > use tablet > get incremental > use tablet...
I'm waiting until the life cycle on this puppy nears its end before I do any ROM'ming. I'm a little paranoid that way but mostly I'm happy with vanilla. I also get confused by all the different steps - update, backup, clear this, clear that, install this, then update with that... I know, it can't be that complicated but I'm easily ditractac....
Oh look, a butterfly!
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Pretty Butterflies.
Seriously, I took the same tact with you use stock...use stock..., however, I broke down about a month ago, after installing android 4.2 on my wife's HP Playbook (the dead Palm version...)
I got jealous, so used afterOTA to install a new recovery ROM, and root the tablet (also used blackthunder's ap500apx flashing tool), and between the two of them got jb (4.1.2 up and running very smoothly). Now that I installed the skrillex clockwork mod 9.x I now have a great recovery tool, and just installed
4,2.2 on my tablet, with less then 30 minutes to take care of it.
updating rules:
a) read the ENTIRE thread (use multiple tabs.
a1) use a new window for each new topic or sw you investigate.
a2) download all the sw to ONE folder so you can find it.
b) READ the ENTIRE thread (oh, did I say that already?... I mean REALLY read EVERY thread to the END!!
b1) open the first page. open the last page in a new tab, or work your way backwards. yes, 42 pages of updated discussion is difficult, but so is
repairing a bricked tablet.
anyway that's my 25cents worth.
good luck
need to reinstall original os A500
XBoxD00D said:
OK, after reading a bunch of posts today, I'm dizzy as h3ll, and very confused.
It was during an update (and my forgetting pattern) when my A500 failed. I am also dizzy from all this and Acer isn't any help AT ALL. Just added insult to injury as far as I'm concerned. One has to jump hoops just to find a contact number or email.
So, vent over, does anyone have the original OS for the A500 that I can easily (with instructions) get my tablet up and going with again? I did learn that when using the paperclip method, one has to release the power switch and repress again. Just looking for some assistance yet once again. Thanks - if there were a pill for this, I'd take it.
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ivibre said:
OK, after reading a bunch of posts today, I'm dizzy as h3ll, and very confused.
It was during an update (and my forgetting pattern) when my A500 failed. I am also dizzy from all this and Acer isn't any help AT ALL. Just added insult to injury as far as I'm concerned. One has to jump hoops just to find a contact number or email.
So, vent over, does anyone have the original OS for the A500 that I can easily (with instructions) get my tablet up and going with again? I did learn that when using the paperclip method, one has to release the power switch and repress again. Just looking for some assistance yet once again. Thanks - if there were a pill for this, I'd take it.
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I'm having the same problem and really will do anything to get it working again. You can use timmy dean's rollback tool, if you can get the 7z open. Neither lubuntu nor Windows XP will open it. So far I flashed a V8 bootloader, but I can't use blackthunder's tool for some stupid reason, and when I contacted Acer (more like called them out on Facebook with a rant for thousands of people to see) they said they'd fix it under warranty conditions even though mine ran out.
They then proceeded to tell me when I went to double check that the case would be valid before I sent it to them, they said it expired and that I would have to pay $160 just to send it to them and not including parts. About a year before it stopped working, I sent it in to get the light board fixed (it was broken when I woke up one day) and I never opened the back of before. Three days ago I opened the back only to see that a cord was unplugged (promptly plugged it back in) and that multiple screws were missing. I nearly "contacted" them again, but decided to continue my search for a solution on here.
Alrighty then, I've been gone a good while, and now no longer know what I'm doing, which I know is dangerous.
I'd picked up an S4 for myself and my mother last Black Friday, and that same night, rooted both our phones. I also know that within a good week, an OTA update had been put out, but I'd blown it off, as I couldn't get it going and finishing up my bach and getting into grad school took over my life. That said, I recently got my father's line upgraded to an S4 (it was a dollar and he wanted it, so eh). It forced me to remember my own phone and it's horribly outdated self, and so I have returned.
As it stands now, I do not know what or how to go about getting this puppy up to speed, or even how to really explain where I'm at software wise, so I took a couple snapshots of the phone info, hoping I could get a hand with it.
Any help you guys could give would be appreciated.
Also, not sure if this means anything, but the System update it says I have downloaded will not install.
You have android 4.3 and the latest version is 4.4.2.
Upgrade to 4.4.2 for your phone and then you can flash the latest custom roms for android version 4.4.2 if you are out of warranty and do not wish to use knox.
Youre not outdated. Just a version behind. There are not many changes in 4.4.2 stock rom.
Thank me if I helped
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 via XDA app.
Hi, first I promise I'm not crazy, I just don't like some changes 10 has made regarding the operations of some of my favorite, have-to-have apps as well as how some apps interact with other apps. Second, I do apologize if this is posted elsewhere. I tried searching in several areas for this tab and couldn't find anything about downgrading.
So, here are some specs I think are usually asked for :fingers-crossed::
Samsung Galaxy Tab S5e (2019) - SM-T720NZDLXAR (USA version) (Not rooted because I'm too scared I'll kill the darned thing beyond resurrection.)
Kernel version:
4.9.186-18864194
#2 Fri Jul 17 17:31:12 2020
Build number:
QP1A.190711.020.T720XXU1BTG3
Service provider SW ver.
SAOMC_SM_T720_OXM_XAR_QQ_0001
R52MA18A3SD
XAR/XAR
Please LMK if anything else is needed.
The upgrade was done a few days ago. I searched the net for stock firmware but couldn't identify for sure if any I found would work with my specific model. I readily admit to not having the knowledge to start experimenting first and begging for help after I've blown it up, or bricked it . I'll just skip to the begging. And I'm usually pretty good at following directions when they're in basic layman's terms.
TIA for any assistance and/or guidance offered and please accept my attempts at humor in the nature they're intended. :silly:
Hello, I'm thinking about downgrading my s5e to use Linux on Dex as my tablet came with Android 10 which doesn't work with it.
If you're still in need of these instructions, I can record my steps for you when I attempt the downgrade.
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Hello, I'm thinking about downgrading my s5e to use Linux on Dex as my tablet came with Android 10 which doesn't work with it.
If you're still in need of these instructions, I can record my steps for you when I attempt the downgrade.
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So is this possible? Also, are you saying tablets that originally shipped with Android 9 are now shipping with android 10 instead??? Wtf I don't want android 10!
I don't mind unlocking my bootloader as soon as I get my tablet, but I really need android 9 and not 10. Would you mind telling me how to downgrade?
Beninjam9 said:
Hello, I'm thinking about downgrading my s5e to use Linux on Dex as my tablet came with Android 10 which doesn't work with it.
If you're still in need of these instructions, I can record my steps for you when I attempt the downgrade.
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Did you ever do the downgrade? You mind sharing the details of how you did it for a noob?
Hello,
I am pretty much a noob at this, only successfully done a one custom rom and twrp install before on a google nexus a long time ago. But pretty much after getting really confused as what I can do with it.
I just bought this tablet about a week ago from a Best Buy. Its a 2019 model without the sim-card port, so it is wifi only.
The model number is sm-t510nzkaxac. Its an ok model, but there are a few things I am not happy with about it and I was wondering if anything could be done to fix it.
It doesn't have Android 10. Only 9. And having a little bit of knowledge about software and what not I have to wonder if some of the issue I am facing are related to this. Some of the apps are not usable and others there is no sound or other issues that do not occur on other devices with different android versions. Crashes and app hangs frequently.
Android 10 seems to work best(with another samsung tablet [sm-t307u]), naturally, so I wanted to see if its possible to update to this firmware somehow.
Please explain everything, as I said I am a noob.
Thank you.
I should also mention that I use Linux. Debian 9. If this is an issue...
evandenbroecke said:
Hello,
I am pretty much a noob at this, only successfully done a one custom rom and twrp install before on a google nexus a long time ago. But pretty much after getting really confused as what I can do with it.
I just bought this tablet about a week ago from a Best Buy. Its a 2019 model without the sim-card port, so it is wifi only.
The model number is sm-t501nzkaxac. Its an ok model, but there are a few things I am not happy with about it and I was wondering if anything could be done to fix it.
It doesnt have Android 10. Only 9. And having a little bit of knowledge about software and what not I have to wonder if some of the issue I am facing are related to this. Some of the apps are not usable and others there is no sound or other issues that do not occur on other devices with different android verisons. Crashes and app hangs frequently.
Android 10 seems to work best(with another samsung tablet [sm-t307u]), naturally, so I wanted to see if its possible to update to this firmware somehow.
Please explain everything, as I said I am a noob.
Thank you.
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I'm assuming it was a typo and you are actually talking about an SM-T510 and not T501. If that is the case, Samsung has yet to update the T510 to Android 10. There are custom Android 10 ROMs but not stock. So if any of the apps that came with the tablet aren't working, then there must be a defect. If you have installed additional apps, designed for Android 10, then they might have problems. But anything designed for Android 8 or 9 should work.
Yes thank you, it is the T510, just a typo.
I understand that Samsung has yet to update this device to android 10, which is kind of disappointing. But issues I am facing with some apps are with this model with currently has android 9. As I said before the newer device, and SM-T307u (2020) does have android 10. Also I've heard that Knox Security could pose a problem.
Basically I wanted to test to see if this is the issue with the T510. I've gotten as far as unlocking the boot loader, but beyond here I am confused. Probably because I am a linux user trying to figure out a way to do this without a windows computer for the odin software. What I have found so far, heimdall, doesnt work at all. I am guessing if I cannot get TWRP or any other roms on the tablet, I cannot get this to work?
I hate being a linux user for this reason, lol. Everything is made for windoze!
And yes the apps in question are ones added after market.
Anyways thanks for the response, cheers!
Todd Vandenbroecke
evandenbroecke said:
Yes thank you, it is the T510, just a typo.
I understand that Samsung has yet to update this device to android 10, which is kind of disappointing. But issues I am facing with some apps are with this model with currently has android 9. As I said before the newer device, and SM-T307u (2020) does have android 10. Also I've heard that Knox Security could pose a problem.
Basically I wanted to test to see if this is the issue with the T510. I've gotten as far as unlocking the boot loader, but beyond here I am confused. Probably because I am a linux user trying to figure out a way to do this without a windows computer for the odin software. What I have found so far, heimdall, doesnt work at all. I am guessing if I cannot get TWRP or any other roms on the tablet, I cannot get this to work?
I hate being a linux user for this reason, lol. Everything is made for windoze!
And yes the apps in question are ones added after market.
Anyways thanks for the response, cheers!
Todd Vandenbroecke
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My T720 just got 10 also. But that is to be expected. The more expensive models always get the updates first. It has been known for months that the T510 wouldn't get 10 until Sept. I've been a Linux user for 20 yrs but I keep a cheap Windows box just for situations like this. However, there have been others who have used Heimdall to install custom ROMs on the T510. Do a search in the threads for T510 custom ROMs for Heimdall and see what others have done.:fingers-crossed:
lewmur said:
My T720 just got 10 also. But that is to be expected. The more expensive models always get the updates first. It has been known for months that the T510 wouldn't get 10 until Sept. I've been a Linux user for 20 yrs but I keep a cheap Windows box just for situations like this. However, there have been others who have used Heimdall to install custom ROMs on the T510. Do a search in the threads for T510 custom ROMs for Heimdall and see what others have done.:fingers-crossed:
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Well I guess I need to find a cheap windoze computer someplace... Lucky I can usually find one at the recycle depot for nothing. Probably a good idea, though, Lol thanks. As for android 10, I might just wait until Sept. for the official update, dunno yet. Depends on what happens I guess.
lewmur said:
My T720 just got 10 also. But that is to be expected. The more expensive models always get the updates first. It has been known for months that the T510 wouldn't get 10 until Sept. I've been a Linux user for 20 yrs but I keep a cheap Windows box just for situations like this. However, there have been others who have used Heimdall to install custom ROMs on the T510. Do a search in the threads for T510 custom ROMs for Heimdall and see what others have done.:fingers-crossed:
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I'm actually not finding anything with the T510 or heimdall in search, is it similar to other models for the procedures?
Tried some things here and just not getting heimdall to work. Tried to recompress twrp-3.4 and use that with heimdall, but it now complains that its missing the firmware.xml file.
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I'm actually not finding anything with the T510 or heimdall in search, is it similar to other models for the procedures?
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It should be the same as with the T58x tablets.
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evandenbroecke said:
Well I guess I need to find a cheap windoze computer someplace... Lucky I can usually find one at the recycle depot for nothing. Probably a good idea, though, Lol thanks. As for android 10, I might just wait until Sept. for the official update, dunno yet. Depends on what happens I guess.
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The only problem with waiting till sept is that that was the schedual prior to covid. Can't be sure they'll hold to it.
Yes, covid... well lets hope that most of the development can be done at home and samsung employee are not actually working at the office I guess.
Latest firmware is android 10 now, got released a few days ago.