It was confirmed today that HTC will update the Desire HD to ICS.
I think this is unfair, the Desire Z was released at the same time and cost the same. I have and still maintain that HTC should of never pushed a sense 3.x update to our devices, But with the announcement of the HTC One V and the leaked RUU's i can confirm that we now have a version of sense that runs very well on our devices.
So I am asking you to take 1 minute to sign the petition to get HTC to release an update for what seems to be a device they have forgotten about.
Please post this link on your blogs, twitter, facebook and anywhere else that you can get it some coverage.
http://www.change.org/petitions/ceo-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z
Lets do this
cjward23 said:
It was confirmed today that HTC will update the Desire HD to ICS.
I think this is unfair, the Desire Z was released at the same time and cost the same. I have and still maintain that HTC should of never pushed a sense 3.x update to our devices, But with the announcement of the HTC One V and the leaked RUU's i can confirm that we now have a version of sense that runs very well on our devices.
So I am asking you to take 1 minute to sign the petition to get HTC to release an update for what seems to be a device they have forgotten about.
Please post this link on your blogs, twitter, facebook and anywhere else that you can get it some coverage.
http://www.change.org/petitions/ceo-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z
Lets do this
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yes i will post it every where!!!
cjward23 said:
It was confirmed today that HTC will update the Desire HD to ICS.
I think this is unfair, the Desire Z was released at the same time and cost the same. I have and still maintain that HTC should of never pushed a sense 3.x update to our devices, But with the announcement of the HTC One V and the leaked RUU's i can confirm that we now have a version of sense that runs very well on our devices.
So I am asking you to take 1 minute to sign the petition to get HTC to release an update for what seems to be a device they have forgotten about.
Please post this link on your blogs, twitter, facebook and anywhere else that you can get it some coverage.
http://www.change.org/petitions/ceo-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z
Lets do this
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+1 to this. Lets do this guys!!
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Please click to submit this thread as a news tip, front page of XDA would be ace
SIGNED AND BLASTED EVERYWHERE! Thank you for initiating this CJ.
We are up to 135 sigs. Would be great to see 500 buy the end of the day
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Don't forget you can always make a personal plea to HTC
https://www.facebook.com/htcuk
https://mobile.twitter.com/htc
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Signed, hope this will lead to something
Good find! At least they should give us the cam drivers and new wifi calling libs, id be happy then. Those glitches didn't mean **** to me cept a simple kill the launcher
i support and signed this, thanks for all your efforts!
Duplicate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531698
Just a random thought. Could it be that they wont release ics for the dz ( just yet) because they are giving the older models, as we can see with sensation and the xe and xl. The 3.6 version of sense wich would run slow on our devices.
Maybe when they update there whole line with sense 4.0 the dz may get ics?
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johrie said:
Just a random thought. Could it be that they wont release ics for the dz ( just yet) because they are giving the older models, as we can see with sensation and the xe and xl. The 3.6 version of sense wich would run slow on our devices.
Maybe when they update there whole line with sense 4.0 the dz may get ics?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_release...that_will_get_android_40_update-news-3974.php
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RajkoK said:
Duplicate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531698
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Oops, i will keep mine running though I'm up I have more sigs already. Having 2 can't hurt though
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cjward23 said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_release...that_will_get_android_40_update-news-3974.php
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Yes i have read that but it says nothing about wich sense version they are using. My thought was the whole list is getting sense 3.6 wich maybe is to heavy for our device?
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The explanation regarding Sense 3.6 and 4.0 can be seen here
HTC Sense 3.6 preview by Engadget
Both versions were developed in parallel to each other, which gave us even more reason to initially believe the two would be closer in look and features than they actually were. So what gives? According to HTC, there are a couple reasons: first, users of legacy devices are accustomed to the previous interface, and the upgrade adds the features and benefits of ICS without upsetting that user experience. Second, only the One lineup can support ImageSense, which is an integral part of Sense 4.0.
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This explains the fragmentation
any way my +1 for the petition
I made 2 threads in other forums:
mobilephonetalk
ipmart-forum
The reason the G2/Desire Z is not receiving the ICS update imo is the issue of RAM and not being a high end device (not worth the time in HTC's opinion?). All those devices on the update list are high end HTC devices with 768MB+ of RAM.
boost3d23 said:
The reason the G2/Desire Z is not receiving the ICS update imo is the issue of RAM and not being a high end device (not worth the time in HTC's opinion?). All those devices on the update list are high end HTC devices with 768MB+ of RAM.
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While I agree that they really skimped on the RAM with the Vision, for what it's worth I have signed the petition. I hope HTC listens.
boost3d23 said:
The reason the G2/Desire Z is not receiving the ICS update imo is the issue of RAM and not being a high end device (not worth the time in HTC's opinion?). All those devices on the update list are high end HTC devices with 768MB+ of RAM.
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Wasn't the g2 high end when it was released? I thought I remembered it being almost four without a contract or some **** like that.
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HTC didn't announce ICS update, despite its brothers getting it.
We assumed it was hardware limitations with the smaller RAM (512mb)
But now HTC have announced the new HTC One V with ICS and Sense 3.6/4.0.
And guess what? It only has 512mb aswell.
So RAM can't be the issue. Maybe CPU power?
Go pester HTC on Twitter/Facebook now for your update!
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olyloh6696 said:
HTC didn't announce ICS update, despite its brothers getting it.
We assumed it was hardware limitations with the smaller RAM (512mb)
But now HTC have announced the new HTC One V with ICS and Sense 3.6/4.0.
And guess what? It only has 512mb aswell.
So RAM can't be the issue. Maybe CPU power?
Go pester HTC on Twitter/Facebook now for your update!
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The issue is that HTC has A LOT of phones. The Desire Z has already received a major Android update. It is not a flagship phone, nor a big seller.
Or in short....$$$$$$$$.
Nospin said:
The issue is that HTC has A LOT of phones. The Desire Z has already received a major Android update. It is not a flagship phone, nor a big seller.
Or in short....$$$$$$$$.
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True, but the Desire Hd (released at the same time) is getting the update.
And that phine hasn't just had one, or two or three major updates....
It's had FOUR MAJOR OS UPDATES.
that beats Apple with their iPhone 3gs.
It's gone from 2.2 all the way to 4.0 with numerous huge sense upgrades.
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Nospin said:
The issue is that HTC has A LOT of phones. The Desire Z has already received a major Android update. It is not a flagship phone, nor a big seller.
Or in short....$$$$$$$$.
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I think Nospin is right; commitment to the development of Android varies among different manufacturers. Commitment to profit does not. There is limited upside to them providing an upgrade. Chances are, we'll still purchase the next HTC phone when we get the money and/or discounted price with contract from our carriers, despite them choosing not to upgrade our phones. In other words, why provide us with an additional free service, when they're going to get our money in the future anyway. In fact, providing the upgrade might *deter* us from buying their latest and greatest.
olyloh6696 said:
True, but the Desire Hd (released at the same time) is getting the update.
And that phine hasn't just had one, or two or three major updates....
It's had FOUR MAJOR OS UPDATES.
that beats Apple with their iPhone 3gs.
It's gone from 2.2 all the way to 4.0 with numerous huge sense upgrades.
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That's cause the Desire HD IS a flagship device.
But I hope so, we will get custom ICS from HTC ONE V. I think it will be brilliant
I don't think the desire z will get a OTA update either. I think they plan it this way so that we have to upgrade and won't be content on sticking it out with our old devices. Either way the desire z will get ICS from cm9 most likely. It's taken longer then I wanted but I know it's in the works.
Just use Andromadus. I know it's not official, but you can rock it now. Which counts for a lot.
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what my opinion is that HTC released the sense 3 OTA to make people either root, or upgrade.. my guess is that HTC will never release any OTA anymore
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If this was Samsung, then I would agree with the Desire Z getting ICS. However HTC has already given us an unlocked bootloader as well as the source code for the Desire Z. There's no need for HTC to get involved anymore. This is exactly why places like XDA are important to the rest of us who "knows" our devices are still kicking strong because then we can just do the work ourselves. And besides, even if Desire Z does get an ICS update: the majority of us will still prefer Custom ROMs anyways. This way, everybody wins. HTC maintains a healthy reputation with us and we get to save some money.
heh, by "we", I mean the talented devs that still support our devices. I'm personally useless.
alpha-niner64 said:
If this was Samsung, then I would agree with the Desire Z getting ICS. However HTC has already given us an unlocked bootloader as well as the source code for the Desire Z. There's no need for HTC to get involved anymore. This is exactly why places like XDA are important to the rest of us who "knows" our devices are still kicking strong because then we can just do the work ourselves. And besides, even if Desire Z does get an ICS update: the majority of us will still prefer Custom ROMs anyways. This way, everybody wins. HTC maintains a healthy reputation with us and we get to save some money.
heh, by "we", I mean the talented devs that still support our devices. I'm personally useless.
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I agree, I think there would be two benefits of having ICS come officially to Desire Z / G2. First would be that that ROM would be a lot easier to modify and tinker with by the dev's then what they are working with currently. The second benefit would be in the form of less people asking for eta's on cm9. I would rather use a custom version of a rom than a stock rom, but the same doesn't go for everybody. I bet a lot of the traffic on xda is people just wanting ICS on their device period.
I can't wait when HTC relase HTC One V I think, we will get ICS with sense 4.0 with out of problems
Youleck said:
I can't wait when HTC relase HTC One V I think, we will get ICS with sense 4.0 with out of problems
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But the camera driver for ICS issue remains... This is the "problem".
Here's how you can help with getting a camera source/driver from HTC email them asking for one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1425324
Mayb we can get this link in the 1st post?
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But the camera driver for ICS issue remains... This is the "problem".
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Its always hard to find out the type of camera is on what phone.. the only thing i could find for the One V camera is that it is also a 5MP camera. (Secretly hoping it has the same sensors as ours )
Anyways to get back on the ICS for DZ. I still would like to have it for this phone only because it will have a rotating launcher..
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johrie said:
Its always hard to find out the type of camera is on what phone.. the only thing i could find for the One V camera is that it is also a 5MP camera. (Secretly hoping it has the same sensors as ours )
Anyways to get back on the ICS for DZ. I still would like to have it for this phone only because it will have a rotating launcher..
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Wasn't HTC saying that they're using some kind of new "imaging chip" for enhancing their photos with their new lineup?
Also, did the Desire Z ever get an update to Sense 3.0?
magic_android said:
Wasn't HTC saying that they're using some kind of new "imaging chip" for enhancing their photos with their new lineup?
Also, did the Desire Z ever get an update to Sense 3.0?
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I dont know about the imaging chip i read something about the picture quality being better but not really looked in it very much xd
And no, the Desire Z never got that update. My quess it that is was to memory hungry so they wont update it. But maybe we will get lucky on this one. You'll never know
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But the camera driver for ICS issue remains... This is the "problem".
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ICS is coming to both the Desire HD and Desire S, both of which use the same chipset (including camera chip) as our phone. So the problem should be solved soon (One V probably won't be out much sooner, if at all).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
If some developer port kernel from desire hd then probably we will have full working ICS with sense ui. Port from Desire HD is easy.
steviewevie said:
ICS is coming to both the Desire HD and Desire S, both of which use the same chipset (including camera chip) as our phone. So the problem should be solved soon (One V probably won't be out much sooner, if at all).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
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Hum, that's good!
Does anyone think that we can get HTC one V port? Coz the spec almost similar to our device, hopefully we can get ICS with sense 4.0 rom soon.
So impatient... The device hasn't even hit the market yet.
And considering how active the g2/dz dev community is, I wouldn't be surprised to see it not too long after the rom gets released.
Don't upset the dev's!
I've tried different 4.0 ROM's and while they are awesome, they are not even what I would considered "fit" for everyday use. 4.0 itself is still new, I think we're lucky to just have that so far. But as far as Sense on top of ICS? I think it's a stretch, for the time being. I would rather see just effort going towards perfecting the stock 4.0 for G2/Desire Z, rather then have the dev's effort split and trying to do that as well. I'm not a developer myself, it doesn't sound like you are either but if you want that port any time soon, might as well get working on it
It would be very interesting to know what CPU is in the One V. Let's hope it uses the same as the Desire HD, then it should be straightforward to port.
Having said that, the Desire S and DHD will be getting official ICS ports anyway, so it's a matter of "when" rather than "if" for us.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but according to this web site:
http://www.geeksailor.com/htc-one-x-htc-one-v-htc-one-s/
The HTC one V have a snapdragon S2 chipset.
Which led me to this table:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
With 1 GHz, there is only one chipset, the MSM8255.
The same as the Desire HD!!!
Also, I've just done another search with Google and I got this page:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3382&c=htc_one_v
Look for the processor: the MSM8255!!!
So maybe the port will be a lot more easier than before.
Edit: It looks smooth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahrv6f2_LfI
ICS
I am more concerned about the 512 RAM in HTC One V making it more similar to the DZ. (I though it is dual-core, but no)
If the V handles ICS WITH(!) Sense our DZ's would easily handle stock ICS (as talked about in other threads) in my opinion.
We'll be one of the first to know about it... HERE...
Can't wait to see that happen...
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As far as i know, which could be all wrong, the V comes with ICS, but with Sense 3.6 (kind of a light version of Sense 4) which is why it can handle both. Personally, i think the sense version it carries must be less resource consuming that 3.5 and 3.0 which would be reason for it being able to run with ICS
But in any case, im eager to see this ported!!
Unbelievable how HTC cheapened this out big time. Even Samsung's budget phones at MWC use S3 variants! But hey why complain if this would feed code to our G2's no?
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coldsun15 said:
As far as i know, which could be all wrong, the V comes with ICS, but with Sense 3.6 (kind of a light version of Sense 4) which is why it can handle both. Personally, i think the sense version it carries must be less resource consuming that 3.5 and 3.0 which would be reason for it being able to run with ICS
But in any case, im eager to see this ported!!
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According to http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-v/#specs
One V comes with Sense 4. I think that the difference between Sense 4 and Sense 3.6 will be ImageSense. Not some kind of light version.
Htc released a statement saying they realized sense is bloated now and is going to slim down))))
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xT4Z1N4TRx said:
Htc released a statement saying they realized sense is bloated now and is going to slim down))))
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Yes! I posted a pool here to get an opinion. I'd say that this is awesomeistic!
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apa1102 said:
According to http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-v/#specs
One V comes with Sense 4. I think that the difference between Sense 4 and Sense 3.6 will be ImageSense. Not some kind of light version.
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Would you mind explaining what ImageSense is ? Google shows something about a defunct design company.
Has the RUU been leaked yet? When it has or been officially released I'm gunna try port it
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It will be race who first port this Rom.
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I would rather not have a FULL One V port, and have a One V with rotating rosie and the 3D task manager thingy.
bogdan5844 said:
Would you mind explaining what ImageSense is ? Google shows something about a defunct design company.
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ImageSense is HTC's version of camera software that allows the One Series of phones to take pictures in under a second. It also enables them to take still pictures WHILE recording in 720p. If i remember correctly, both Samsung and Motorola have their respective versions with similar capabilities as well.
EDIT:
Skip to about 1:20 of the video.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/26/htc-one-s-hands-on-at-mwc-2012/
EDIT2:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/04/htc-releases-imagesense-samples/
One V port
Before One V is released Sense 4.0 will be released for Sensation and other already existing devices. Porting from these will be easier than waiting for one V to release.
Port should work fine. Same RAM etc.
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Sensation and Sensation XE is supposed to get ICS with Sense 3.5 (looks like for now) very soon. Not sure if they'll push Sense 4.0 to them yet though (haven't seen anything yet)
Once the RUU comes, the magic will start.
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
I woke up in the morning with this news. I have to say that I was very disappointed. Even though I anticipated that HTC won't release an official ICS update for the Desire Z, this news still took a toll on me :-(
now all we can hope for is a better port from the devs (there're already good ICS ROMs for the Desire Z, the Icecream JIBwich ROM I am using is already much better than stock GB, but I do want to have a better camera driver)
well, for anyone who still hopes, at the very least, HTC haven't said that they won't upgrade the Desire Z, and there's still this petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z
Another thread about a petition?
no, I about the official upgrade list. In my opinion, the petition is one of the reasons HTC should NOT upgrade the Desire Z, if you look at the petition count.....
Desire hd is getting it so we are fine.
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KyraOfFire said:
no, I about the official upgrade list. In my opinion, the petition is one of the reasons HTC should NOT upgrade the Desire Z, if you look at the petition count.....
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Then i misunderstood it. But to get back at a quote you say in your op. HTC never said that the DZ wont be getting the upgrade, there is always a chance of getting it. Unless you got source on that.
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!!IMPORTANT!!
A fellow dutch user pointed me to this link, if you guys all could be so friendly to sign that petition and than maybe we will get us a official version of ICS for our Desire Z!
So please go to the link guys, you're doing us all a favor! I want to see the counter at atleast 1000 tomorrow morning (Amsterdam time)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493365
guys please sign here
jijus said:
!!IMPORTANT!!
A fellow dutch user pointed me to this link, if you guys all could be so friendly to sign that petition and than maybe we will get us a official version of ICS for our Desire Z!
So please go to the link guys, you're doing us all a favor! I want to see the counter at atleast 1000 tomorrow morning (Amsterdam time)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493365
guys please sign here
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Dude that link is already in this thread and plenty others
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just signed it. come on people there should be more of us?? shouldn't there???
KyraOfFire said:
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
I woke up in the morning with this news. I have to say that I was very disappointed. Even though I anticipated that HTC won't release an official ICS update for the Desire Z, this news still took a toll on me :-(
now all we can hope for is a better port from the devs (there're already good ICS ROMs for the Desire Z, the Icecream JIBwich ROM I am using is already much better than stock GB, but I do want to have a better camera driver)
well, for anyone who still hopes, at the very least, HTC haven't said that they won't upgrade the Desire Z, and there's still this petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z
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Thats the same list from months ago nothing changed, HTC said this is the 'first' list of devices rolling out there will Be ANOTHER!
KyraOfFire said:
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
I woke up in the morning with this news. I have to say that I was very disappointed. Even though I anticipated that HTC won't release an official ICS update for the Desire Z, this news still took a toll on me :-(
now all we can hope for is a better port from the devs (there're already good ICS ROMs for the Desire Z, the Icecream JIBwich ROM I am using is already much better than stock GB, but I do want to have a better camera driver)
well, for anyone who still hopes, at the very least, HTC haven't said that they won't upgrade the Desire Z, and there's still this petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z
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Dude calm down! it's just the first wave. I'm pretty sure HTC going to update our device later on. if not we still have CM9, Virtuous.. ect.
I think we will get it in the second wave imo
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I think the second wave has already been announced. It included the Desire HD and the Desire S. I might be wrong though.
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I think the second wave has already been announced. It included the Desire HD and the Desire S. I might be wrong though.
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Those devices are in the first wave, no second wave has been announced.
I hope we get an update soon.
Most of my friend with different HTC models get the update. I have the desire z and i got nothing up to now, except 2.3.3 last year.
Remember, HTC has never said that they've finalized the list of devices to be upgraded. We still might get it, we may not. Besides, enough phones will be upgraded to give us a 100% working ICS rom anyway from CyanogenMod and others.
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charisk123 said:
Most of my friend with different HTC models get the update. I have the desire z and i got nothing up to now, except 2.3.3 last year.
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Yeah, well, our phones are pretty old, two years now. Most companies rather just spend their money pushing their new line of phones instead. I use the Andromadus ROM and it works very well, running ICS 4.0.3
From the CyanogenMod Q&A
Q: [Device with less than 512mb RAM shipped] gets CyanogenMod 9?
A: No
JDogg1329 said:
From the CyanogenMod Q&A
Q: [Device with less than 512mb RAM shipped] gets CyanogenMod 9?
A: No
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You don't need to use CyanogenMod 9 to have ICS. And HTC Vision is listed with 512MB RAM anyways.
I am about to give up on cm9 and go backwards. I want a 1.6 super d rom from my g1 on my g2. Hell I might go back to eclair if I could, just to flash something different. ...
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It is possible to port old roms but really... maybe I'm in the minority but there are so many roms to choose from on the g2 why are so many people hung up on needing a solid ics build. I get it the latest is the greatest but what more are you really going to get out of it? Plenty of amazing aosp, cyanogen based and sense roms out here that work amazing, how can anyone be so unsatisfied to want to go back to a donut rom?
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http://www.telusmobility.com/pv_obj...ename/Device_OS_Upgrade_Schedule_July12th.pdf
They canceled it due to poor performance in testing...
HTC is such a joke
I don't believe that b.s HTC is not supporting any of there older lineup, There all about there 2012 and beyond lineup.
Such a shame, If it wasn't for us there wouldn't be a htc!
probably "fake" (true only for that carrier).
Desire HD will be updated to ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28734289&postcount=3
hope :angel:
I doubt it, if that were true, then they would have pulled it from the HTC website http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
We'll just have to wait for further news directly from HTC, or till the update finally gets released. I seriously doubt HTC's that much of a joke that they couldn't make ICS + Sense 4.0A work on the Desire HD, when they could on the One V.
nicholaslimck said:
We'll just have to wait for further news directly from HTC, or till the update finally gets released. I seriously doubt HTC's that much of a joke that they couldn't make ICS + Sense 4.0A work on the Desire HD, when they could on the One V.
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Which is why I think it's more carrier specific than anything. Basically would mean that Telus customers won't get an official Telus OTA or similar update to their DZ, but may still be able to get an HTC provided (or another carrier based) ICS rom.
If it's true that is.
Oke people need to read more and think more..... Telus is not upgrading the Desire HD.. where on earth did you ever read "HTC is canceling the DHD update"?
If we get word of HTC about not upgrading, wich probably will not happen since the Incredible S and the Desire S ( both less spectacular phones ) got the update, then we will need to post something about HTC not upgrading.
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johrie said:
the Incredible S and the Desire S ( both less spectacular phones )
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Whoa whoa no they aren't. The Desire HD, Desire S and Incredible S all have the _exact_ same spec, aside from the screen sizes.
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This isn't HTC, it's Telus. Does not mean unbranded DHDs won't get the update or other carrier branded devices. Just means that Telus chose not to release the update....move along people not a huge deal right now.
It also means that if testing devices were given to Telus, hardware drivers were written. A leak of that testing rom would be nice.
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It also means that if testing devices were given to Telus, hardware drivers were written. A leak of that testing rom would be nice.
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Though I didn't see anything regarding testing in the PDF, so they might not have even bothered with it based on specs alone.
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Though I didn't see anything regarding testing in the PDF, so they might not have even bothered with it based on specs alone.
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Telus canceled it, which meant HTC gave them a software update to test before rolling it out to consumers.
HTC hasn't canceled anything, they are pushing updates to carriers for testing, and it is up to those carriers to decide whether the update is good enough to release to customers or not. Telus decided that for their customers it wasn't. We know the DHD can handle Sense and ICS. So either HTC wrote incompetent software, or Telus decided it wasn't worth the money or time to test an update for a dated device (Much more likely). In both instances an official HTC made ICS rom exists.
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Telus canceled it, which meant HTC gave them a software update to test before rolling it out to consumers.
HTC hasn't canceled anything, they are pushing updates to carriers for testing, and it is up to those carriers to decide whether the update is good enough to release to customers or not. Telus decided that for their customers it wasn't. We know the DHD can handle Sense and ICS. So either HTC wrote incompetent software, or Telus decided it wasn't worth the money or time to test an update for a dated device (Much more likely). In both instances an official HTC made ICS rom exists.
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Which also means they could at the very least release DHD ICS drivers to the developer community...
kbeezie said:
Which also means they could at the very least release DHD ICS drivers to the developer community...
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any way to contact them to see if they'll release this? if that was even legit.
HandsomeAssDomo said:
any way to contact them to see if they'll release this? if that was even legit.
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Don't think they will straight up "release" a test build. It will have to be leaked internally.
Just hang tight, all it takes is one carrier to give the go ahead.....or for HTC themselves to cancel it.
In the astrix it says that HTC cancelled the upgrade for performance reasons, not Telus.
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In the astrix it says that HTC cancelled the upgrade for performance reasons, not Telus.
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So it seems:
HTC has cancelled the HTC Desire HD ICS upgrade due to poor device performance during testing
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But nothing has changed on their blog as of yet.
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My Guess is that For the desired apps and pre-bundled setup that Telus will use will not perform well with ICS, as such may be canceled for that specific carrier. We'll still likely see it released straight from HTC (just not carrier-specific/bundled) since their blog still says that it's confirmed to get ICS.
Let me say, that if they can get ICS+Sense4.0 working on the Desire C (600mhz Snapdragon +512mb ram), there is zero reason they can't get it on a former flagship device in the Desire HD.
We don't know if HTC has canceled it across the board. If they have it will suck, but won't really matter in the long run. Camera fixes were the big deal here, it isn't the end of the world if they don't turn up.
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Let me say, that if they can get ICS+Sense4.0 working one the Desire C (600mhz Snapdragon +512mb ram), there is zero reason they can't get it on a former flagship device in the Desire HD.
We don't know if HTC has canceled it across the board. If they have it will suck, but won't really matter in the long run. Camera fixes were the big deal here, it isn't the end of the world if they don't turn up.
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Well said. Remember though that not only is Sense 4.0 less bloated than 3.6, the Desire C only has a HVGA resolution so it would naturally need less power. That said I still believe the 2nd gen 1ghz CPU and 768mb RAM within the Desire HD should run it just fine at WVGA.
Just read this, kinda sucks if it's true.
It’s been nearly two years since HTC first announced the Desire HD, making it a proper dinosaur in the smartphone world. Despite its age, the manufacturer had been planning to give the smartphone a fresh new start with an Ice Cream Sandwich update. At least, that was the plan, but now it seems that HTC may have reversed course, and the Desire HD won’t be seeing an official ICS release, after all.
Back in May, we saw a list of which HTC models were due their ICS updates, and when; the Desire HD fell in the July-August range. We’d assume that was still the case, were it not for Canadian carrier Telus updating its own list of future software releases, noting that the Desire HD’s Ice Cream Sandwich release is now canceled. According to the carrier, “HTC has [canceled] the HTC Desire HD ICS upgrade due to poor device performance during testing.”
That’s a little surprising, because even with just a single-core 1GHz Snapdragon, the phone’s 768MB of RAM sounds sufficient for ICS operation, even if it might be a little pokey in spots. Apparently HTC just felt that the performance issues were too great to ignore; maybe Sense simply got in the way too much.
We haven’t heard any update from HTC itself on the Desire HD’s prospects, but if this really is the case in Canada, we can’t imagine things will be different elsewhere.
Source: Telus (PDF)
Via: MobileSyrup
Are you kidding me? If you really had to post a thread about this, you could have posted it in general. Not in the development section.
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First of all, wrong section.
Second of all, you'll notice that their source is actually from an XDA thread, this one. (And seeing that the linked page is the one that contains my post I guess I'm the source )
However, an XDA user contacted HTC on their Facebook page (link to post) and got the following answer:
Tom - volunteer helper said:
HTC are not cancelling their upgrade to ICS for the Desire HD as far as we know. If Telus have done this, it's unilateral on their part.
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That's mentioned in the thread linked above, and that thread also contains an email reply that a different user received after emailing HTC's support and the email said that the update is still happening.
My guess is that HTC were hoping to get the upgrade ready by now, they got issues so they postponed the release, and some kind of miscommunication happened between them and Telus.
Either way, we're still in the first quarter of the time range HTC gave for the upgrade. So unless HTC makes an official statement that there won't be a release, then there's no reason to despair.
i wanted to share this with you all
so ppl can talk about it
we are here to inform and help each other
if this is not the proper place im sorry
i hope this is BS
we all want to see something more in this device
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It’s been nearly two years since HTC first announced the Desire HD, making it a proper dinosaur in the smartphone world. Despite its age, the manufacturer had been planning to give the smartphone a fresh new start with an Ice Cream Sandwich update. At least, that was the plan, but now it seems that HTC may have reversed course, and the Desire HD won’t be seeing an official ICS release, after all.
Back in May, we saw a list of which HTC models were due their ICS updates, and when; the Desire HD fell in the July-August range. We’d assume that was still the case, were it not for Canadian carrier Telus updating its own list of future software releases, noting that the Desire HD’s Ice Cream Sandwich release is now canceled. According to the carrier, “HTC has [canceled] the HTC Desire HD ICS upgrade due to poor device performance during testing.”
That’s a little surprising, because even with just a single-core 1GHz Snapdragon, the phone’s 768MB of RAM sounds sufficient for ICS operation, even if it might be a little pokey in spots. Apparently HTC just felt that the performance issues were too great to ignore; maybe Sense simply got in the way too much.
We haven’t heard any update from HTC itself on the Desire HD’s prospects, but if this really is the case in Canada, we can’t imagine things will be different elsewhere.
Source: Telus (PDF)
Via: MobileSyrup
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Its not being cancel check this link http://blog.vodafone.com.au/blog/software-update-weekly-wrap-04072012/
very nice thanks for the link
toysoldierq said:
Its not being cancel check this link http://blog.vodafone.com.au/blog/software-update-weekly-wrap-04072012/
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You should quote the 11072012.
http://blog.vodafone.com.au/blog/software-update-weekly-wrap-11072012/
Who knows the one of 18072012?
Also today, Telus launched the One X. Hmmm.
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Sorry to be slightly off topic, but HTC never mentioned the Inspire 4G to get Ice Cream Sandwich, despite it being the AT&T version of the Desire HD.
Do you think the Inspire will get ICS?
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gagdude said:
Sorry to be slightly off topic, but HTC never mentioned the Inspire 4G to get Ice Cream Sandwich, despite it being the AT&T version of the Desire HD.
Do you think the Inspire will get ICS?
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HTC, unfortunately, has no control over the devices chosen to get an upgrade. HTC may make software that is for a device, but the carrier may say no. Sadly, ATT has deemed the Inspire to be End-Of-Line, and will receive no future updates. GB was the last, and final update.
if the new Desire C can run ICS and new Sense on a measly 600Mhz processor, the desire HD certainly can too
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Desire HD will get ICS, if the Incredible S with the exact same specs is getting it too, then it would be trivial for HTC to do the same for the DHD.
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HTC, unfortunately, has no control over the devices chosen to get an upgrade. HTC may make software that is for a device, but the carrier may say no. Sadly, ATT has deemed the Inspire to be End-Of-Line, and will receive no future updates. GB was the last, and final update.
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Well I can understand HTC Inspire will don't get ICS, but what's app with Desire HD?
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one I do not believe Telus will not upgrade it. If they do not, I will be organizing a petition against them plus they will be getting some nasty phone calls. Plus I have a neighbour that works for Telus (but does not work in mobile) but I will ask him for help with this also.
There is no reason for the Telus Desire HD not to get it, it is not at the end of life, so there should be no reason. I think someone at Telus posted this because they know we are all waiting for it
Also shouldn't this be in general, and not development
Edit: I can not even see the phone on Telus site anymore (does this mean end of life)
Some interesting info
here
Useless ,pointless ,jumping the gun thread ,should be closed
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atrako1973 said:
Useless ,pointless ,jumping the gun thread ,should be closed
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^^-Couldn't agree more
Idiots, root your damned phone and unbrand it; then you'll get official ICS!
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Settler down drunk guy in the corner. Official rom = better cooked roms, working camera etc.
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^^-Couldn't agree more
Idiots, root your damned phone and unbrand it; then you'll get official ICS!
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Settler down drunk guy in the corner. Official rom = better cooked roms, working camera etc.
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Yeah, kinda raging at people who're getting all pissy about it. Look on the official site and you'll see it says that by the end of August we'll have ICS w/ Sense
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Is there maybe a chance that we get Jelly Bean immediately instead of ICS?
or other question, if vodafone got the rom from HTC already so vodafone can customize it, shouldnt there be the original HTC rom already be available?