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[Q] Flash Defy+ *.sbf with Android 2.3.6 to red lens Defy?

Hi
I did read in the dev section, that there is a new *.sbf from the Defy+ with Android 2.3.6. which can be flashed on the Defy. I know there is no going backl from that if flashing the full sbf.
As far as i know the Defy with red lens (bayer device) is basically a Defy+.
So what i wanna know...will the camera work with this new sbf...basically, will everything work?

Nope... I don't think the red lens camera is working fine as of now...
Btw... was wondering if we flash the nandroid of the 2.3.6 then can we return to frayo?
Sent from my MB525 using xda premium

hmmm. darn it... and here i was thinking the defy with red lens is quite the same as defy+. Obviously there are differences in the end.
So no experiments for me then...need the camera. hope it will start working at some point. Epsylon3 wrote, that with defy+ kernle some things are working easier and that they would probably jump to that kernel. But without Cam... :-(
Regarding the nandroid...sory..not sure if u can return..i think yes...but no guarantees ton that. U will have to read the thread in dev section from walther79

ace-drink said:
Hi
I did read in the dev section, that there is a new *.sbf from the Defy+ with Android 2.3.6. which can be flashed on the Defy. I know there is no going backl from that if flashing the full sbf.
As far as i know the Defy with red lens (bayer device) is basically a Defy+.
So what i wanna know...will the camera work with this new sbf...basically, will everything work?
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Someone already flashed this full SBF on a Defy MB525, its working perfectly for him. As long as you have a Red lens, and dont care about downgrading, you can go for it

ah... two different opinions
From what i was reading in the meantime it wont work. At least thats what Walter79 wrote
Anyways...am on CM9 now and thats ok for now.. if i would use the newer Defy+ Kernel+Bootloader that wont work at the moment.

ace-drink said:
ah... two different opinions
From what i was reading in the meantime it wont work. At least thats what Walter79 wrote
Anyways...am on CM9 now and thats ok for now.. if i would use the newer Defy+ Kernel+Bootloader that wont work at the moment.
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No... the ROM does work on Red lens Defy and Defy+, that's a fact.
What wont work is the Fixed SBF, cause it needs the new Firmware to work... which is only possible to have by flashing the full SBF.
Walter also said he is going to base the new MSGinger in this rom, and make it work on Green lens.
But the rom DOES work on Red Lens defy.

thx again... good to know for sure.... hoping that way the red lens defy will be compatible with any updates from moto for defy+

help me to

[Q] I'm a bit confused about "kernel"

I'm a bit confused about "kernel" and does it mean SBF?
As I'm using a Defy, flashed a SBF to DHT-22 then upgraded to DHT-25 by OTA
what "kernel" I'm using? does it mean the SBF or the BL?
I saw some posts said that you need to flash "kernel" and there are 2.2 and 2.3 kernel. How can I identify the Kernel version? using the SBF or BL?
very confused!

g440i said:
I'm a bit confused about "kernel" and does it mean SBF?
As I'm using a Defy, flashed a SBF to DHT-22 then upgraded to DHT-25 by OTA
what "kernel" I'm using? does it mean the SBF or the BL?
I saw some posts said that you need to flash "kernel" and there are 2.2 and 2.3 kernel. How can I identify the Kernel version? using the SBF or BL?
very confused!
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If you have a defy then you can't recieve a dht 25 via ota.
but if it is a defy plus then you only you will recieve this update.
read this and this
btw if any where it is mentioned bootloader version(bl ver) then i am guessing its bl6 for you(dont have a defy to confirm and use search option on top for any other info

Sainyam said:
If you have a defy then you can't recieve a dht 25 via ota.
but if it is a defy plus then you only you will recieve this update.
read this and this
btw if any where it is mentioned bootloader version(bl ver) then i am guessing its bl6 for you(dont have a defy to confirm and use search option on top for any other info
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I have a defy, then flashed the DHT-22 SBF to become defy+
then, I upgraded it by OTA to DHT-25
I don't know what's my "kernel" version now

i dont know much about version all i know is that there are two kernels one is from gingerbread and other one is of froyo..
and since you have updated yours is a gingerbread kernel

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Sainyam said:
i dont know much about version all i know is that there are two kernels one is from gingerbread and other one is of froyo..
and since you have updated yours is a gingerbread kernel
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So, if upgrade to CM9, I should use the GB one, although I'm using Defy?

yup now your defy is defy+ for every purpose..

Sainyam said:
yup now your defy is defy+ for every purpose..
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Is it possible to flash the froyo kernel on defy+?

super noob bros said:
Is it possible to flash the froyo kernel on defy+?
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impossible is nothing..
it is possible if you bl version is 6..
there is a chinese sbf some where on the forums which can do so..
btw why do u want froyo kernel on defy +?

Sainyam said:
impossible is nothing..
it is possible if you bl version is 6..
there is a chinese sbf some where on the forums which can do so..
btw why do u want froyo kernel on defy +?
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How do I find the BL version?
Want froyo we can get flash with the froyo version of cm9 with partial hwa

search forr the last rom you installed(stock one on forums by searching for "defy dht XXXX"replace XXXX by the version code in the name of the stock rom and you might find the bl version..
but as a random guess most 2.3.4 versions are bl6 while all 2.3.6 are bl7.
but thats just a guess..

what's the difference between Froyo CM9 and GB CM9?
which one is better?

g440i said:
what's the difference between Froyo CM9 and GB CM9?
which one is better?
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there is no such big difference as far as i remember except few optimization(battery)
and few lines of code..
but froyo has large user base so will always be favoured by devs

Is your camera working with BL6 on normal Defy mb525 ?

tarekh020 said:
Is your camera working with BL6 on normal Defy mb525 ?
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yes, i have a red lens and it works
just one thing, i can choose face detection, but don't know is it work, as not square locking the face when choosing face detection mode

[Q] Help! how to downgrade 2.3.6 to Froyo :(

Anyone who can help me to go back to Stock rom for Defy Green lens... i have 2.3.6 now but my camera not working I just seen DARK, also when i charge my defy it says your device battery is invalid and cannot be charged...
plss help me to go back froyo so i can proceed to other ROMs like CM9 or any ICS cause i nid to fix Battery problem and camera...
i appreciate anyone help

dadschrom said:
Anyone who can help me to go back to Stock rom for Defy Green lens... i have 2.3.6 now but my camera not working I just seen DARK, also when i charge my defy it says your device battery is invalid and cannot be charged...
plss help me to go back froyo so i can proceed to other ROMs like CM9 or any ICS cause i nid to fix Battery problem and camera...
i appreciate anyone help
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What's the build number of your current ROM?
Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above

neo.ank said:
What's the build number of your current ROM?
Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above
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Sir I use this full sbf file Blur_Version.45.0.2310.MB526.NonEFIGSRetail.en.EU (2012/01/12)...
here is the link of roms information http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1540633

hi.
i have same problem.
now no way to fix battery and camera.
u must charge with wall charger.
wait for froyo kernel port for BL7.
maybe this work for u!
refer to downgrade part
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982

dadschrom said:
Sir I use this full sbf file Blur_Version.45.0.2310.MB526.NonEFIGSRetail.en.EU (2012/01/12)...
here is the link of roms information http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1540633
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Unfortunately, you flashed a Defy+ full SBF, you CANNOT downgrade it..
Try flashing the GB kernel, there's a rare chance it might wrk..
Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above

neo.ank said:
Unfortunately, you flashed a Defy+ full SBF, you CANNOT downgrade it..
Try flashing the GB kernel, there's a rare chance it might wrk..
Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above
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so i cant downgrade... omg
i will flash it again on 2.3.6 so i can use it even it doesn't have camera and battery

Unfortunately you have to...
You should've paid attention to the SBF before flashing..

dadschrom said:
Anyone who can help me to go back to Stock rom for Defy Green lens... i have 2.3.6 now but my camera not working I just seen DARK, also when i charge my defy it says your device battery is invalid and cannot be charged...
plss help me to go back froyo so i can proceed to other ROMs like CM9 or any ICS cause i nid to fix Battery problem and camera...
i appreciate anyone help
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Dude the same problem happen with me and i am also searching how to downgrade 2.3.6 to froyo...but i think it's not possible...only hope on cm9 which have camera fix...
Sent from my MB526 using xda premium

shaGGy5678 said:
Dude the same problem happen with me and i am also searching how to downgrade 2.3.6 to froyo...but i think it's not possible...only hope on cm9 which have camera fix...
Sent from my MB526 using xda premium
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hei u got CM9? from 2.3.6?? how can u show me so i can try it

neo.ank said:
Unfortunately you have to...
You should've paid attention to the SBF before flashing..
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can i use this on 2.3.6 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15341774&postcount=8 ?

dadschrom said:
hei u got CM9? from 2.3.6?? how can u show me so i can try it
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I found cm9 but its not stable and still have camera problem when the stable version or camera bugs are fix then we will try it and i will PM you...
Sent from my MB526 using xda premium

shaGGy5678 said:
I found cm9 but its not stable and still have camera problem when the stable version or camera bugs are fix then we will try it and i will PM you...
Sent from my MB526 using xda premium
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okay sir thanks a lot

Already fixed the battery problem?
You can root using the method from dev section (the bl7 method, use only then). Afterwards instal 2nt Init. Now you can instal custom ROMs again (only the defy+ ones). After that you might also have to flash a battery fix.
But camera will most likely never work for you without a new defy sbf released.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA

labsin said:
Already fixed the battery problem?
You can root using the method from dev section (the bl7 method, use only then). Afterwards instal 2nt Init. Now you can instal custom ROMs again (only the defy+ ones). After that you might also have to flash a battery fix.
But camera will most likely never work for you without a new defy sbf released.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA
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okay sir ill try... thanks thanks

Any solutions to this problem in 2015?
dadschrom said:
okay sir ill try... thanks thanks
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Hello...Please help! I had an old green lens motorola defy mb 525 that I wanted to upgrade for my 12 year old son (he lost his old phone ). Now I have the same problem stated above... Is there anyway to fix it nowadays? I had the mb525 running froyo and now I have the gingerbread 2.3.6 but the camera is not working at all.

Need help!! Dont knw wat to flash. *Confused*

Before i gave it to service center, i had green lense and froyo kernel for sure and flashed CM7, CM9, Miui, Wiui, Popcorn,etc.
When they returned me the said we had to change motherboard, now it is of defy+ and the sbf tha they flashed is "4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 - retail-asia full Blur multilanguage(2.3.6)", So now can i install CM9-Defy+(Quarx) without any kind of problem, and do i need flash battery_fix from auris?

You don't need battery fix for Defy+ on Quarx's build.

neo.ank said:
You don't need battery fix for Defy+ on Quarx's build.
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Thnks man. I had this confusion because in our defys we have smaller battery compared to defy+.
Sent from my MB526 using XDA

ManDOT said:
"4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 - retail-asia full Blur multilanguage(2.3.6)"
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Guys, this sbf has bl6 or bl7?
Sent from my MB526 using XDA

ManDOT said:
Before i gave it to service center, i had green lense and froyo kernel for sure and flashed CM7, CM9, Miui, Wiui, Popcorn,etc.
When they returned me the said we had to change motherboard, now it is of defy+ and the sbf tha they flashed is "4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 - retail-asia full Blur multilanguage(2.3.6)", So now can i install CM9-Defy+(Quarx) without any kind of problem, and do i need flash battery_fix from auris?
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Did the service people change the device to Defy+ entirely, like swap the phone? Replacing the motherboard does nothing except fix whatever problem you had, as the motherboard is the same. The camera and battery differentiate between green lense, red lense and defy+. Use this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116694 to see whether you have red lense of green lense now. Also, go into your settings and see whether it says MB525 or MB526, if you have MB525 find out whether red or green, if you have MB526 you can flash the quarx defy+ rom without any addons (no battery fix or kernel).
Hope this helped, give thanks! :laugh:

ManDOT said:
Guys, this sbf has bl6 or bl7?
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Thats BL6.

MainCourse said:
Did the service people change the device to Defy+ entirely, like swap the phone? Replacing the motherboard does nothing except fix whatever problem you had, as the motherboard is the same. The camera and battery differentiate between green lense, red lense and defy+. Use this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116694 to see whether you have red lense of green lense now. Also, go into your settings and see whether it says MB525 or MB526, if you have MB525 find out whether red or green, if you have MB526 you can flash the quarx defy+ rom without any addons (no battery fix or kernel).
Hope this helped, give thanks! :laugh:
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they dint replaced the phone, just said "We have to replace motherboard and screen." but I guess I can flash quarx defy+ build because under setting it says mb526. As far as thing about lens is concerned I dint find any "cameracommon" or "jordancamera" kind of match in catlog.
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Guys, I have one more question to ask, I think though it's defy+ sbf that the guy from service center has flashed, still when I install "home switcher" it says u have a froyo device. As much I knw about sbfs kernel is included in sbf itself. Then why so says it's a froyo device?
I m asking so many questions I knw, but I don't want any bootloops while flashing cm9.
I hate bootloops.
Sent from my MB526 using XDA

where to find the fix?

ManDOT said:
Guys, I have one more question to ask, I think though it's defy+ sbf that the guy from service center has flashed, still when I install "home switcher" it says u have a froyo device. As much I knw about sbfs kernel is included in sbf itself. Then why so says it's a froyo device?
I m asking so many questions I knw, but I don't want any bootloops while flashing cm9.
I hate bootloops.
Sent from my MB526 using XDA
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I'm not sure why home switcher says its froyo. Some of the earlier bl6 build behaved as froyo but that was 2.3.4 builds.
IMO your device is a defy+ now & gb ROMs should work flawless..
Also one more thing.. Is Your camera working fine??

neo.ank said:
I'm not sure why home switcher says its froyo. Some of the earlier bl6 build behaved as froyo but that was 2.3.4 builds.
IMO your device is a defy+ now & gb ROMs should work flawless..
Also one more thing.. Is Your camera working fine??
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Yes, camera and camcorder both are wrking very well.
Sent from my MB526/MB525 using XDA

Camera not work on green defy with 2.3.6

i flashed my green defy to 2.3.6 (DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134)
and installed patch to enable camera but its not work
now my camera is disabled since 1 month ago
may help me ????????????????

behnam123456 said:
i flashed my green defy to 2.3.6 (DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134)
and installed patch to enable camera but its not work
now my camera is disabled since 1 month ago
may help me ????????????????
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Hi, you got a problem: only RED lens defy should be flashed with that kind of kernels, it should be that you f***** up your camera ...

then try the custom rom like cm10,wajkui jb,miui

ela1103 said:
then try the custom rom like cm10,wajkui jb,miui
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i installed cm9, but its not working

flash JORDN_U3_6.36.0
thats foryo on BL6.
if defy not boot up u stuck in BL7.
No Way to work camera.

hi
hey bro if u still have this problem then there is a way out of it.First root the 2.3.6 as procedure is given in xda forum. Then flash epsylone build ICS rom of 18.11.2012. which u can get from xda forum . if u still have problem contact me @ [email protected]