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Swimming....

it just so happens, that my Trinity(6 months old) decided that it likes water, and forced me to sit it in a cup of water in my cars cup holder. i looked at it about ten minutes later, and after yelling some vulgarities at it, and myself, i immediately popped out the battery.
do you guys think this device will come out alive? btw, it went speaker side down in the water... and believe it or not, the trinity can hold ALLOT of water.
if it doesn't come out alive, anyone interested in some trinity parts?
My friend also got a s620 (tmobile branded), and im kinda jealous at what he can do with it... nes games, snes... aim blows... crazy fast test messaging... i was thinking maybe i should one up him and get the cavalier... why is there no thread for the s630? and is it worth it? does it have the same possibility of crazy death scroll issue the s620 could suffer from? any other thoughts?
thanks for any input...
-Ryan

10 minutes.... I don't even think that you can hold your breath under water for that long - not to mention delicate electronic devices....
You did the right thing poping out the battery immediately. Hope that no one called you during its swimming and you didn't touch any buttons after it finished.
Now, what you can do it very limited - you may want to disassemble it - at least open up the case, and then use a hair dryer to blow it for an hour. After that, put it in a box together with some solid state dehydrants for few days.
And pray...

There are cases of Wizard swimming (diving actually) for hours and yet came out well, after the opening up and drying process. There is still hope.

Depends what it was swimming in!
Coffee and Coke are bad Ordinary tap water is also bad because the impurities (calcium etc) will eventually form some microscopic crystals on the MB tracks. Distilled water is best, but I presume you weren't drinking that
Try & disassemble as much as possible, and leave to dry naturally in a warm place for 2-3 days- dpn't be tempted to 'try it out' before that.
Can you claim on your household insurance?

hanmin said:
after the opening up and drying process. There is still hope.
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That's the only solution...and pray maybe (we never know)

meh.
well... i guess the good news is that i have filtered water.... im not talking brita either... im talking huge filtration units in the basement that look like big ol' helium tanks. my water is clean... either way, i don't happen to have any solid state dehydration material handy.. unless were talking about silica gel beads... in which case i have about 8 pounds of it. a drawback to this is that it spews dust all over the place that sticks to everything. i was told to soak it in distilled water, but ive seen what water does to lcd's and touchscreens... they get milky white, and don't work. id rather dip it in isopropl alcohol, swish a few times and spit. and is to praying, i'm not very religious ;p
thanks guys.

Well I do not really know about the trinity and for sure I wish that it has some water resistance, cause things like that happen all the time, but I had my Samsung WEp200, bluetooth in the washing machine inside my shirt's pocket for 1 and half hours in full wash, and after I took it out, it was still working......I am actually talking through that righ now....

Refering to the post above regarding the 'water' the phone is in, if my memory is serving me right, it is lake water, the diving Wizard went to.
Anyway, I seriously not sure if swimming phone happens a lot.. but if you do, you need to get those waterproof phone
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Recovery!
wow...
i never thought it would survive. it did. after being submersed in water for 10 minutes... it had bits of corrosion on the board cause there is a small backup battery onboard, via high voltage soldering tacked to the board... anyway... thanks to that bettery, it almost killed everything for me.
this saved me:
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i ran the main board under the spicket and scrubbed the everliving **** out of it. then i blew it off with an air compressor and let it sit for 2 days. i put it all back together with one screw left, and it booted up! sadly though, it had a kinda 3d effect cause the water got into the lcd layers.... so i pulled that apart( all the layers are on the back of the lcd starting with mirror, not the front). since i was working in a wood shop, it was a bit dusty :/ and i got a tid bit of dust on the layers and it looks nasty... ill get it later with latex gloves and alcohol... blew the layers off and dried them, and it looks great!
just so you know... the lcd is probally the most time consuming peice to take apart and put back together simply because it has 8 different layers that need to be cleaned, if water gets into em... lol..
guess the moral is, don't put your 600.00 phone in water.

Congratulations man! It's really a miracle for you

gratz
hope death will not feel chated like in the movie final destination 1-3

i was kinda disappointed that it worked.. i was looking for another reason to blow 600 on a cavalier s630... scratch that.. i have a projector to pay off... rofl.

its suprise what works after dropped, i've dropped atleast 3 mobiles in the bath ect lol, they still worked after a good dryin out!

My Xperia deep in gthe water... and still working

Hello,
I was in spain on a river heloing my son jumping from one rock to another when i heard a ""splash""... Ooppps that was my xperia that just dropped out of my pocket into about 4 meters water.
My parents instisted to pick it up while i was just thinking i would get another one from my company.
So i jumped into the water and pick it up...
I did wait about an half day and started it again and guess what? STILL WORKING.
So ic an tell you that HTC device are water resistant

Wow - You got lucky dude!
i dropped mine in the toilet and it broke the screen - it messed up all the colours and everything - was the phone off when you dropped it in?

i'm sure there is some serious corrosion going on inside of the unit. but there is always a chance you'll never have a problem from it.

yes u should dry it some more , half day isnt enuff ...

Lucky guy

comeradealexi said:
i dropped mine in the toilet
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cedricj said:
Hello,
I was in spain on a river heloing my son jumping from one rock to another when i heard a ""splash""... Ooppps that was my xperia that just dropped out of my pocket into about 4 meters water.
My parents instisted to pick it up while i was just thinking i would get another one from my company.
So i jumped into the water and pick it up...
I did wait about an half day and started it again and guess what? STILL WORKING.
So ic an tell you that HTC device are water resistant
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Have you tried throwing it in lava?

as mentioned already, half a day is not long enough. i suggest you leave it off for a few more days. sure it is working now but while it's powered on, the moisture inside will slowly but surely build up corrosion at the solder joints and battery/power terminals. that' s when things start to go screwy.
take off the battery cover and battery, leave it open with they keyboard showing, wrap the phone in a thin towel or dry wash cloth and place it on top of a tv or something that generates constant heat. it helps to leave a fan blowing as it helps the air circulate and remove unwanted moisture.
leave it to dry for as long as you can live without your xperia. the longer it dries, the better your chances of things not going wrong in the future due to corrosion and whatnot.

this was my old before I got my X1. Picture taken (not with phone...obviously) for insurance company.
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you had to take a picture of it to prove to them??? what if you didnt have one?

Trust me, it's only matter of time, until the oxidizing will kill your phone totaly. Once it gets to the water, it's already on the way to hell. Water and electronics, that's a killer. Especialy if some stupid people take the phone right after droping into the water and wonder that it doesn't work and CHARGE THE DAMN BATTERY!

nevermind said:
Trust me, it's only matter of time, until the oxidizing will kill your phone totaly. Once it gets to the water, it's already on the way to hell. Water and electronics, that's a killer. Especialy if some stupid people take the phone right after droping into the water and wonder that it doesn't work and CHARGE THE DAMN BATTERY!
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Don't be so sure.
Three years ago I dropped my old W800i in the tub and it was fully submerged. I dried it off thoroughly then charged it up, on the assumption that the heat from charging would evaporate the water quickly. It worked, and it's still going.

well I am so sure. As I do work with a service guy and his job is to fix phones.... It's same like droping a cookie into the water and saying later - it looks as new.. It may look like new, but that's only what you can see. Inside the cookie isn't the same cookie as it was once before

That's called "selection bias," dude. The guy you work with gets the phones that did not survive the water. He never touches or sees all the other phones that survived.
There is at least one entire post talking about phones that survived various water submersions.
I have a Dell laptop that died for 3 days after being soaked with rain (2 years ago), and now continues to function after it dried, as well as the SE W800i.
That's 2 for 2. My own selection bias, but not bad at all.

put it in container with rice

lol. that's constant heat, but constant humidity! not a good idea

Dry rice, not a rice cooker.

Why rice?
And I don't think the inside of the phone will suffer corrosion since rivers don't have salt water
And one more thing.. I don't electronic devices don't mind watter as it is, but the electronics do mind because water is a conductor (duh!) and it screws it up inside so that it turns off..
I also heard that after a phone takes a bath in any kind of natural water, it would be good to dip it in distilled water (?) since it's not a conductor and all that stuff.. kewl ha?

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Why rice?
And I don't think the inside of the phone will suffer corrosion since rivers don't have salt water
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Because the rice will absorb any moisture in the air around it.
It will:
http://www.roscoemoss.com/tech_manuals/fmcf/

yeah, we all know from 3th grade of elementary school, that water is a conductor. Which is what most people don't realize. What it does with the motherboard? Motherboard has special thin "skin", which protects it from the corosion or oxidization (damn how to spell that?). But once you put it in the water, the thin "skin" is destroyed and that's it.
So it may work now, next week.. But in the near future it'll die suddenly

Water damaged hero?

I have a water damaged hero, here is why-
Sorry you guys, but EzHero V5 will have to be a blind release. You may ask why? because I am in Seattle, WA USA, spending time with my family and well my cousin thought it would be funny to push me into the lake off the dock. What he didn't know was that I had my hero in my pocket, cause I always have it. Now I have a water damaged hero that I cant get to turn on. I dont have the money (or any money) to fix it or buy a new one, so I will be using my old Nokia for the time being. As for EzHero, The next release will be blind. Donations are appreciated to buy a new hero, Thanks
P.s. My cousin is 12 and they dont think it is his fault, so he or them wont pay for it D:<
I have heard many people say put it in a bag of rice for a couple of days, so I did, but confirm with me this is what you meant-
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Any help is would be great you guys

what i did was put my whole phone into the rice, i've also put my phone on the heater for al couple of hours with the battery out and the micro sd out and with the back cover off and now i have a working hero again

Yup that looks good OP.. just totally cover it in the rice and leave it somewhere warm for a couple of days.. I wouldnt seal the plastic bag either.
The heater will work too.. though I would avoid it unless you could continuously check it or you were 100 percent about how hot the heater will get.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how_to/4269047.html
Here you have the same procedure, but you should note, that inside you're hero are stickers which will change the colour if they come in contact with water (check your battery there should also one).

Seelbreaker said:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how_to/4269047.html
Here you have the same procedure, but you should note, that inside you're hero are stickers which will change the colour if they come in contact with water (check your battery there should also one).
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What does it mean when it is red? I think it means it does have water damage

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What does it mean when it is red? I think it means it does have water damage
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Yep you're right. That is the indicator which tells htc and other repair-people that the hero got in contact with water.

Hey Xeno, how comfortable are you with opening your phone? I used to repair cells and water damage was the most common, if it was fully submersed and it took you a while to get the battery off then there will most definitely be corrosion on the board, take a soft bristle toothbrush and some 99% isopropyl alcohol(any drug store for cheap) and pour the alcohol directly on the board wherever you see a blueish green buildup (corrosion) and scrub it with the toothbrush, make sure the corrosion is not bridging any contacts on the board causing a short. if the corrosion is being difficult a last resort I used to use for the really bad units was take an everyday cleaner maybe something a little stronger then windex but not something too strong and spray it liberally over the circuit board and use the toothbrush to scrub it clean, don't scrub too hard because some of those components are fragile. just get a decent lather going and make sure all the green spots are gone. now rinse it in very hot water, I used to just turn the tap to hot and leave it run for a minute then rinse it thoroughly and lightly scrub with the brush to make sure there is no soap residue, then let it sit for 10 mins and then pour some isopropyl alcohol on the phone and let it sit in a dry warm area for a few hours/overnight. this will clean the board of corrosion and adding the alcohol will help evaporate the remaining water hidden underneath some of the components. Honestly this didn't work all the time but it worked a bunch of the time...good luck.

I dropped my Hero down the toilet (accidently) at work, jumped after, dried it a couple of days (also in rice) - et voila - it's working like before.
(additonally i used some fumigation spray, just to make sure...as it was not my toilet )

How long has it been ?
After a few hours I used a vacuum cleaner on my wife's Desire too. She had actually put it on a heater to dry which is not the best idea.
Hers works fine now after some 12 hours of drying, she just has a watermark on screen but you only see it when it's off.
Good luck.

Hey, if the rice trick dont work, you could try to flush your phone with clear distilled water, because when the water in your phone is evaporated and sucked out by the rice, there will be minerals in your phone, which can block the access. After you flush it, do the rice trick again.
Do it on your on risk It may damage your phone much more, so take it as a last chance
But i see your not far away from a new hero...i would send some money, but your ezHero wont boot on my hero, so i wait until it works And i´m very broke, too -thats the real reason xD
So good luck, hope you could understand my english
Greetz
Jonas

From hero to zero....
I couldn't resist!!!

So did you get it working?

Plop plop - no fizz. The slide took a swim

I dropped my slide in the toilet this morning... how cliche. I'm at work now with no dry rice handy and I have my phone sitting about 6 inches from my space heater.
Sitting in front of the heater the phone is fine, but when i remove it.. the screen starts to look "steamy" (see pic below).
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is this ok? should I NOT be doing this? or is this just the water reacting to the heat and dissipating. I have no idea.. everything I've read says use alcohol or rice.. i have niether around. i'm going home on my lunch break tho to give it a rice bath for a few hours.
I put my dunce hat on momentarily and booted the thing. When I first pulled it out of the water everything worked except the buttons (keyboard, home, search/genius, menu and back). after letting it sit in front of the heater... everything SEEMS to work. i didn't play with it very long because i noticed the screen fogging up and thought it best to remove the battery again. That being said.. the heater seems to be working.
help please and thank you.

In case someone is keeping up with this...
UPDATE: I got one of the screws off on the back of the display and am using a small flat tip screw driver to prop it open in front of the heater. i just picked it up and it definitely took a LOT longer for the steam to show up... and there was definitely less of it.

I did the same thing to mine last week..I just took the battery and sim card out and let it sit over night.. the next morning I turned it back on and the screen looked like that for a few days and I had problems with a few keys not working and it randomly turning itself up and down..but after about a week its all back to normal without rice or alcohol
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I'm at 100% now. after prying the display open and a little time in front of the heater my phone is back on it's feet. No problems whatsoever. *Knocks on wood*

Damn man that's lucky

the thing is,if its under warranty,they will know that water got into the device.

xoombie503 said:
the thing is,if its under warranty,they will know that water got into the device.
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It does not matter with slides anymore...both my stickers were red and you could visibly see water under the screen and store gave me a brand new one..they said no matter what the will give you a new one at the store..not to call customer service
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Sweet I didn't know that
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Just incase this happens again or 2 someone else.
This happened 2 me as well & what I did was I took the battery, sd & sim out asap & didnt turn it on till its had time 2 dry out some. (24hr, min) I stuck it in a cup of rice (not flat) & It ended up taking almost a week before it was 100% functional. By that time t-mobile offered me a replacement phone and said if they found water damage they would need 2 bill me $100 for an out of warranty exchange. That was 6 months ago and the water damage sticker was clearly red but they never billed me the $100.

You guys are lucky, I dropped a tp2 in the cat water dish and immediately pulled the battery and sim. The keyboard never recovered. Everything else still works.
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Ditto, but one issue with the dry out
I also dropped my phone into the can, let it dry out for a few days and after the screen finally getting back to normal i thought all was well with the world. only problem is, now, if i turn off the phone, the super bright led comes on and doesnt go off until i turn the phone on again. any ideas how to fix this if it is possible? and even if the phone dies and i attempt to charge the led comes on and counteracts the charging. thanks for any help

RICE! RICE! RICE! but yes water stickers+a dead giveaway to mobile carriers..

Help with Vodafone claiming my S2 has water damage.

Hi, all. I was having some problems with my samsung galaxy s2's USB port where it won't connect to the computer and it thinks theres a cable always connected to it and I sent it off through vodafone and now they've just rang me up and claimed it has water damage just on the usb port and want £100. This is utter tosh as its never seen water! Is there anything I can do to fight against it? Only had it 2 months . Cheers.

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Hi, all. I was having some problems with my samsung galaxy s2's USB port where it won't connect to the computer and it thinks theres a cable always connected to it and I sent it off through vodafone and now they've just rang me up and claimed it has water damage just on the usb port and want £100. This is utter tosh as its never seen water! Is there anything I can do to fight against it? Only had it 2 months . Cheers.
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get it back then send it to samsung mate , the usb port probs just needs a clean with a toothbrush it has happend on a few sgs2 handsets there is a thread in the q+a section about it
also if you google vodafone water damage phone see how many hits come up , they dont seem to like warranty work and just seem to say nope water damaged and ask for £100 this must be the 10th thread ive read in two weeks about voda doing this
google it and see what comes up you'll be shocked and even more angry that they are trying to rip you off
get the phone back and go to samsung dont mention vodafone and water damage just pretend you dont know whats up , explain your problems and leave it with them , i bet they dont say anything about water damage and you get your phone back working
also check out the q+a threads for more info on cleaning the usb port , one person used a electric friendly cleaner spray and now says it works flawless another says their usb port was damaged inside and it needed to be bent with flat head screwdriver , loads of handy info in that thread about usb problems
hope you get it sorted and i hope voda stop this scam asap

If theres alot of topics about this, I suggest you sent them an email, telling them if they don't send you back your phone in perfect condition, you will forward every topic about this fake water damage to fraud services.
They won't like the hassle and will just fix it and send it back. Alternatively you can ask for it back and send it directly to samsung.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=vo...s=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
that is the hits i get with just ''vodafone water damage'' in google
as you can see from just reading a few of them links its a big issue here in the uk and i dont know how they are getting away with it !! i needs to be investigated but what we need users to do is take up a manufactuer warranty when this happends and get proof it wasnt water damage then when loads have people have done this voda can get the ass wooping they deserve
its a joke how they are getting away with it , its been going on well over a year now :-(

Water damage is often a condensation issue triggering the water ingress measure inside a phone .
Fairly standard to reject under warranty across all providers and under Samsung warranty .
Very difficult to prove no water damage if the water indicator actually indicates water ingress .
jje

I had this usb issue but I was still within 14 days so I whinged at P4U and finally they replaced it with a white SGS 2 I wanted . Hope you get yours sorted, it's an awesome phone.

The phone has a couple of stickers which turn red upon being in contact with water. Like this
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Not sure where they are on the GSII but they will be red if they are refusing to honour the warranty due to water damage.

There's one water indicator on the SGS2 and it lives on the underside of the rear chassis, to the left of the camera if you're looking at the chassis when attached to the phone. (so in other words, no where near the USB ports)
Incidentally, the USB ports are NOT on the motherboard, they're on a daughter board which also houses speaker, microphone and aerials, so it's definitely not £100 to replace.

Here is the thread about USB problems
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132588
Cleaning USB port is the first thing to try.

StupidIdea said:
Here is the thread about USB problems
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132588
Cleaning USB port is the first thing to try.
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I had this when I was on Holiday recently the place was humid and I thought it was the cable. I used micro fibre cloth to clean the port and then also lightly used a hair dryer from a distance to blow out any excess grime. It worked after that.

Avoiding liquid damage
Unfortunately phones aren't waterproof. Apart from not taking your phone with you when you go swimming, here are a few things that can help protect your phone from water damage.
To avoid liquid damage, do not:
Use your phone in the rain.
Keep your phone anywhere damp (e.g. a window ledge or glove compartment).
Expose the phone to condensation.
Take your phone from a very cold climate into a warm climate as condensation can form.
My phone's got wet - help!
Oops! If your phone's got wet there's no need to panic - but you need to act quickly! Follow these instructions to as soon as you can to try to get your phone back up and running.
Take out the phone's SIM card and battery
Wipe away as much moisture as possible using a cloth or paper towel
Put your phone in bowl of rice and leave in a warm, dry place. The rice will help draw moisture out of your phone
Don't put your phone anywhere hot, including on a radiator. Excessive heat can damage your phone.
Leave your phone to dry for 24 hours, replace the SIM card and battery and try turning it on again. If it's still not running properly, repeat the drying process using a bowl of rice

it worked for i clean bought alcohol from the pharmacy cost me a dollar, and use tooth pic and put cotton and cleaned all dirt is gone its fine
now