I have some high quality video (BBC Frozen Planet - "H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10) (avc1) 1280 x 720" according to VLC Codec Details) that really stutters with the standard video app. I tried DICE Player and it was no better. I tried MX Video Player and I finally seem to be getting somewhere - but I am puzzled.
MX Video Player has a choice of decoding modes at the touch of a button:
H/W Decoder
S/W Decoder
S/W Decoder (fast mode)
H/W mode is still stuttering, but the other two seem to work perfectly. (Wow - I love this screen!!)
So why doesn't H/W mode work?
And does anyone know which of the other two is the best (by which I probably mean uses least battery)?
Will S/W modes use more power than H/W?
fjuniper said:
So why doesn't H/W mode work?
And does anyone know which of the other two is the best (by which I probably mean uses least battery)?
Will S/W modes use more power than H/W?
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1. I can't give you any details about why the HW decoder would have issues without the video in question, but I assume it has some unusual settings in the encoding that confuse or bog down your decoding hardware. It's not something that comes up a lot, honestly--usually hardware decoding either works fine or fails outright, in which case you can fall back to software decoding.
2. I honestly don't know exactly the difference between fast and normal software decoding in MX. I assume the "fast" flavor is optimized for speed at the cost of quality, but I haven't been able to discern any differences between the two modes.
3. Yes, SW decoding uses massively more power than HW. The tab has fixed-function video decoding units that use relatively little power for the codecs it supports, while the CPU can sit idle. In software mode, the CPU is doing the decoding, so you're going to be taxing it heavily, which is a very large power drain. I almost never play software video on mobile devices, but I'd expect your battery life to be about half as good with software decoding compared to hardware.
stuttering has to do with bitrate...especially since the format your file is is what I rip to and I've had no problems...even in software...I've found that you lose no quality with a bitrate of around 6k for 720p...I haven't tried higher because you get close to the 4gb FAT32 limit with a full length film
Have you tried the file on your pc? And if your bitrate is too high...use format factory to bring it down
Thank you for your detailed answers teiglin and bdroc.
@teiglin (3) Confirmed what I thought about H/W versus S/W.
@bdroc The attached image from VLC suggests that the bit rate is around 400 kb/s, which seem an awful lot less than the 5k you mention, so I am not sure how low I should go if I re-encode in Format Factory. I am trying the Mobile Devices preset -> HD AVC(H264) 1280x720 which uses 1500KB/s. 1% complete so far...
The file came direct from the BBC btw, using get_iPlayer. It plays perfectly on a laptop. With the window sized to 7.7 inches like the tablet, the tablet looks so much better! (ThinkPad T400).
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I like this program to look at video info
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en
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I like this program to look at video info
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en
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Thanks for that. So my original files was:
Overall bit rate : 2 467 Kbps
Bit rate : 2 367 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 3 500 Kbps
And the same file after conversion in FormatFactory using the preset mentioned below is:
Overall bit rate : 1 617 Kbps
Bit rate : 1 489 Kbps
The second file seems to play perfectly well in MX Video Player in H/W Decoder mode, so that is good, though it is a shame to have to convert what seem to be perfectly good files to be able to use them on the Tab... It took 1hr 47mins to convert the 58 minute file!
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I am considering getting a Wizard (Qtek 9100) to replace my almost dead XDA2.
However a very important aspect for me is playing videos. I already re-size videos for my XDA2 to 320x240 250-400Kbit depending on what it is and audio 56kbit/s all at 25fps (sometimes less).
They work fine on the XDA2 of course (Betaplayer can run around 300% on the benchmark). Will they be OK on a wizard?
I guess this does not answer your question totally, but I have a K-Jam, and I encoded a couple of DVDs to DIVX and played on my phone using TCPMP(betaplayer) without any problems. Smooth playback.
The settings that i used for dix encoding was around 150kbps 320x240 size (25fps) with 96kbps audio.
Havent fiddled too much with the encoding settings and will try again with higher bitrate, though that would increase the size quite a bit i guess.
I think you would be surprized at what all the 200Mhz OMAP850 processor can do - as long as you do not run a LOT of heavy applications at the same time.
Thanks. I was guessing that if my XDA2 can run at 300% then the wizard would at least be able to run at 100% ... but really wanted to make sure as i use it a lot for films.
the processor is good, but the programs aren't yet addapted to this processor...
maybe you should also consider the Eten M600, if you don't mind to lose the great keyboard. Everything is better on the M600, better processor, better camera, better support and upgrades,...but it hasn't the nice keyboard...but you could use the application 'FullScreenKeyboard' to solve that problem.
the screen on the Wizard (Qteck9100) is really great and very clear...I don't know about the screen on the Eten M600.
I do have a wizard now, but if I would lose it, i don't know if i would buy the wizard again or go for the Eten M600...It also depends on the fact of the applications will get adapted for the DualCore processor of the wizard, because, like i said, the processor isn't that bad, but it can be slow with some applications....
video goes very well on the wizard, no problems with it yet...
CIAO!
VOODOOS!L
No I want the keyboard... I REALLY want the keyboard... I like everything about the Wizard... my only worry was the video, i use it on airplanes a lot.
If the M600 had 640x480 then i might have thought about losing the keyboard.
Other than video I just need email, ICQ etc. and perhaps VOIP ... all of which seem to work OK to some degree.
I also like the fact its smaller than my XDA2....
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I also like the fact its smaller than my XDA2....
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But it's fatter, because of the keyboard. But thats OK since that IS a feature you want in any case.
i even stream them from my pc over wifi, flawlessly
OK I have ordered one.... comes tomorrow morning.
Thanks.
PocketDIVXencoder. Approximately 340 kbps video+64 kbps sound. Smooth playback.
Wow!
PocketDIVXencoder is really good! Thanks for hooking us up!
I just converted an episode of a TV show and set it to highest quality picture and sound, and it played fine, no scips or jumps at all and the quality was great!
I have been using a program that work great.
SmartMovie Converter, it is in two parts: a desktop converter, and a player for the pda
you can find more info at
www.lonelycatgames.com
Dxvix
my div x player is not working.
although my windows media player is also not working properly.
the working properly means that they both are not playing my video songs and clips.
so plz help mee..
if one can do ..
tell me the best player ....
i have O2 XDA ....
Hey Pobman,
I am in exactly the same position, however I am just upgrading from the original XDA which I have been able to upgrade due to this amazing forum.
Please let me know how good the wizard is with video as it is a major factor for me and will help me decide between this and the universal.
Thanks
Jayman
Just streamed a movie from my pc via wifi and played on my wizard with TCPMP, these were the settings, it has a weird frame size due to it being wide screen.
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On a similar note, what would be the maximum resolution, bitrate and framerate for smooth playback of wmvs? Or is this format not a good choice for the Wizard?
John
does the wizard play movies in fullscreen flawlessly?
jdg, Yerp..plays it well smooth...just make sure nothing like active sync runs in the background :wink:
Hi all
I've just finished editing the Defaults.xml and creating some basic graphics to enable the TouchHD profile in Badaboom!
You can now have GPU accelerated transcoding with ease.. just one click!
[size=+2]Tested only on Badaboom 1.1.1.194[/size]
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Profile: baseline
Level: 3.0
Bitrate: 650-900 VBR (default 750 - should be a good tradeoff between quality and size)
Audio: mp3 stereo 128kbps
Resolution: 720x480 (due to a limitation in badaboom you can't set this beyond the hardcoded resolution and that's the closest to our 800x480..)
[size=+1]Enable or disable deinterlacing according to your videos![/size]
[size=+1]Get the files here:[/size]
http://www.mediafire.com/?ji1gy5z3kg3
first and last UP just for letting more ppl see this post..
Cheers Eraser , works a bloody treat , you gotta love the speed that it transcodes files . Great work .
how's the image quality compared to x264 based converters at the same bitrate?
I kind of take it all back , converts super fast but slaps DRM over everything , won't let me play on my htc . bummer .
maybe i am doing something wrong but i can't find out how to turn DRM off .
~.~ .. why it is so stupid that it won't use CPU...?
both cores were nearly idle while encoding.
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~.~ .. why it is so stupid that it won't use CPU...?
both cores were nearly idle while encoding.
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That is a joke isn't it? Badaboom is a GPU video encoder, the fact that it doesn't hog the CPU like most encoders is what makes it so good.
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That is a joke isn't it? Badaboom is a GPU video encoder, the fact that it doesn't hog the CPU like most encoders is what makes it so good.
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Yes, and just try to encode some ~1hour from movie for my X1.
Quadcore CPU 6800 - 20mins
Nvidia GTX 260 GPU - 6mins
i hope badaboom will support xperia 800x480 resolution in next versions
Wow, this is awesome. Maybe 20 minutes or so for a normal movie for me. The end product is bigger in size than if you were to use one of the two "made for Touch HD" applications our members have created, BUT the movies look superb and play smooth as butter with no audio sync problems at all.
Pop your DVD in and after you've set up this profile for the HD click "Start", then copy the file over to your HD. Excellent! It also looks like you can do VOB directory too if you've already ripped all your media to harddrive, but I haven't tested it yet. I'll have to try that next to see if it's any faster than ripping right from DVD.
Thanks for pointing this out! Wonderful!
Looks great but everytime I instal and start up badaboom it restarts my system. Any clues??
Thanks Eraser, this is great. It also works on the latest version 1.2.1
This would probably get more hits if it was posted in the Apps and Themes section though.
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Looks great but everytime I instal and start up badaboom it restarts my system. Any clues??
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Anyone help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like your video card has problems. Have you tried the latest drivers for your card?
I know this has been asked before but I haven't seen any real responses from an Arc owner.
Does the Arc support 720p High-Profile H.264 in an MP4 container?
I'm considering selling my Galaxy S because it lacks HDMI out so I'm looking for a device that will play 720p over HDMI. I know it lacks MKV support but I would be interested to know if it supports HD MP4s.
Yes Arc records Videos at 720p @30 FPS.
Yes mp4
No mkv
Sent from my LT15i using XDA App
Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1080194
Since the Play and Arc share the same CPU & GPU:
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I'am an huge fan of Japanese anime and i do prefer watching my movies and series in their native language with subs. Yesterday i was checking the market for the Holy grail and after 4 hours i finally found the solution.
So after installing and checked every player in the market i finally found the only player that can play BD Rip 720p (1280x720) with subs (srt & ssa) function with hardware acceleration.
I tested all the Free and priced application and i can tell for sure that many of those one don't play MKV and need optimization and work on hardware acceleration:
RockPlayer (pro) 1.7.2 : Laggy, don't load subtitles, glitch/pixelation/macroblock depending on the video.
No support for hardware acceleration for Xperia Play use software mode to play the video.
Good Menu and options
Move to SD
Vplayer 0.9.4 (unlocker): Buggy, laggy, don't load subtitles inside MKV incremented, glitch/pixelation/macroblock depending on the video.
No support for hardware acceleration for Xperia Play use software mode to play the video.
Move to SD
Best video Player : Might be the same as above with a different name Not tested...
VLC direct pro: Streaming load movies and video from computer...
Forget about it...
VitalPlayer 1.2.7 (Pro): Play fine with little lag in software mode, don't load subtitles inside MKV. (UTF 8 not supported ?) glitch/pixelation/macroblock depending on the video.
No support for hardware acceleration for Xperia Play use software mode to play the video.
Good option and menu but ugly interface
Move to SD
MvideoPlayer 2.8.2 : This app is weird cause it says that it DOES ONLY PLAY WHAT YOUR PHONE ALREADY SUPPORTS... but to tell you the truth what the purpose of a player if it plays what you have already.
Don't load any MKV on Xperia Play
No support for hardware acceleration for Xperia Play use software mode to play the video.
Good interface.
Move to SD
QQplayer 1.0.152: One of the best player i tested using Software acceleration - in fact this player can play everything i tried with some little lag at starts but really the subtitles are working with some errors on opening in Anime but everything works fine when you are watching the episode.
Many usefull option and simple interface.
No support for hardware acceleration for Xperia Play use software mode to play the video.
Move to SD (really small size)
ArcMedia 1.5 (pro): What! No app2SD! Big! Don't waste my time ! Not tested
MoboPlayer v1.2.145 Free; This player is awesome, great interface can play everything smoothly, Move to SD small size in internal, Thumb support, Ultra great option that permit almost everything. Support Hardware Acceleration for Xperia Play ! No Lag, Subtitle working greatly (multi sub track works) Opening in anime show all the subtitles : lyrics/translation/japanese
1080p: Laggy
Play every Format and accept stream
Best of the Best
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.clov4r.android.nil&feature=top-free
Website: http://www.moboplayer.com/moboplayer_en.html
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This link is only for those who cannot access market ! Remember the app is free and the count is important for the dev! Also there is update made for this tool! you might want the last version ?
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZUGZK1J4
If someone found another great player and make a review and share it. That would be Great
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also, if you want to encode your videos and take advantage of hardware acceleration, see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467590
Thanks for the replies. I'm very surprised how few reviewers, or even end customers care or seem to be aware about hardware video support. Tegra 2 single-handedly killed my interest in every current gen Android tablet; if I wanted to transcode my hundreds of movies I'd buy an 'i' device!
I agree Mobo player is best of i've used but when i use it with bluetooth stereo the video just plays in fast forward mode and there is no sound in the earphones, same with summer player a.k.a best vidoe player pro. Any body else faced the sam e issue ?
what about Hardware acceleration on ICS?
Is the mobo player still recommended? Or is there something new?
I use MX Player, but I haven't tried a 720p mkv yet. I have a feeling its performance is similar to Mobo Player's.
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MX Player Pro ftw.
Well, since there is no guides for how to encoding videos for our lazy Tegra 2 Tablet, I happy making this for you guys.
First of all, im mexican and I never study english, so my gramatical skills aren't very good
All we need in this guide, is Staxrip, a free and open source UI for several tools, like avisinth, x264, virtualdubmod, besweet, and a lot more.
You can download Staxrip ready for tegra encoding from this link: Download Staxrip
Now, if you don't want to complicate this bussiness just uncompress Staxrip.7zip on C: because all paths are set for C:
OK, open Staxrip and you will be a window like this:
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there is a lot of options, simply and fastly:
Source: input video
Target: output video
Filters: avisynth filters
Resize: well, exactly that, resize
Encoder: default set to x264, baseline, no tunning, HQ and already configured.
Container: default set to mp4
Audio: default set to AAC VBR ~192kbps
All this settings are ready to play on our Iconia tab.
1. Drag and drop a good quality video on staxrip window. The program may ask for some programs like avysinth or others, all apps required are stored inside application folder and staxrip just ask for install, but you don't need to search or download any of this applications.
2. Once that the video you selected are loaded you will see something like this:
You now can see info about input video, like resolution, display aspect ratio, pixel aspect ratio and stuff.
If you see on last image, I clicked on Resize and I selected 1280x720 and Resize filter has checked on Filters settings.
3. Now just click on Next button at bottom right and the project will be added to Jobs list. If we want to attach several videos to encode just close Jobs list and repeat all process to load another video. If not, just click on Start! button.
Now you can see the output video on your A500 and see what smoothly the video will play.
Click here if you want to download and test a nice 1280 output video to play on your iconia
Please feel free to ask for anything you want
BTW, This profile settings works with 1080p too
How much time it takes to encode 2 hrs movie?
What's the advantage of encoding the movie, versus downloading an app like MoboPlayer that plays just about anything?
MoboPlayer seems to work well.
Maddmatt said:
What's the advantage of encoding the movie, versus downloading an app like MoboPlayer that plays just about anything?
MoboPlayer seems to work well.
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Anything but 720p+ MKV files, unfortunately..
@ Alejand
Thanks for sharing. Nice job. I'll try this. The video you posted is nice. And don't worry about your proficiency in English here. You are not writing a master thesis
Anyway, I did not know that the iconia is capable of playing the video on the fly without downloading. Awesome, I love this tablet.
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How much time it takes to encode 2 hrs movie?
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All depends of how much frames per second can encode your hardware, for example if you pc is powerful and you can process 100 frame per second and your input movie is 2 hours at 23fps then
2 hours= 7200 seconds.
7200 seconds x 23 fps = 165600 frames
And if your hardware can encode 100 frames per second then encoding process will take about 27.6 minutes
But remember, we al depends of your hardware
can it deal with discs? almost all of my movies are stored on bluray or DVD disc. i once downloaded a free version of a bluray tool. it works well, but there is a big logo "foxreal" in the centre of the converted file. it's really affect viewing. i have looked for such free tool for a long time. any suggestion?
Please can any one tell me which is best.
I'm looking for compatible with kodi, all 4, ITV player, BBC iplayer, 5 on demand, now TV and marvel future fight from the play store.
Gave a quick look using lolirock rom not the stock rom, found that only marvel future fight is marked incompatible, but did not find "all 4" or "now tv" at all searching the play store, kodi works great (I've run 15 and now run 16 beta) and all the add-ons I've tried work fine.
I mostly use it with kodi to stream movies from my nas, I use a 1gb usb eth. adapter witch gets 20mbs download vs 10mbs with 10/100 usb eth. and 5 mbs for the 5ghz wireless.
As far as fire tv, I almost went that way (until I found the nexus for $40 the same $$ as the way weaker hardware in the fire stick) and my deal breaker apparently there or no 3rd party roms for fire, so if like me and you hate the nexus interface you can dump it for a stock android, myself I've never NOT gone 3rd party roms for my phone/tablet ect and not having that option is a deal killer 4 me..
Thank you for you info. Is it true that 1080p movies buffer with kodi ?
I haven't had any buffering issues at all with kodi, but I pre-encode all my movies to a very vanilla mid-quality files that are compatible with all my various devices (dish network hopper which has a dnla client built in, a couple samsung blue-rays, the nexus and a cheapo Chinese android stick).
It took my a long time and I ran though pretty much EVERY codec combo and finally settled on this, it takes anything in the dir an dumps it out to a mkv container, mpeg2/ac3 2000k bit rate which runs on all my devices, most people use h.264 but with the exact same settings using h.264 the vid pixelates like crazy where as mpeg2 is perfect..
(bat file in same dir as ffmpeg)
for %%a in ("F:\Vidtmp\in\*.*") do ffmpeg -i "%%a" -vcodec mpeg2video -b:v 2000000 -r 23.976 -f matroska -map 0:0 -map 0:1 -acodec ac3 -ab 128k -ar 44100 -ac 2 "F:\Vidtmp\OUT\%%~na.mkv"
Sounds great and way over my head , I just want to stream. Thank you for your help
Well steamin ain't easy, and when yo say "stream" are using local files that you've downloaded or online content? The online stuff is so unreliable (genesis is the best of not very good that I've found) personally I download my stuff into the "in" directory, click the a batch file and it transcodes everything in the dir. I'm up to 550 movies in my library, and have reached the end of the internet, can't find anything else I want to see..
I would like to stream online content at the moment I have total revolution Mk1 all addons work fine. Just the android firmware has not been updated in a year. I do want the android 3rd party app. UK now TV and wss.
The specs is.
Android 4.4 Kitkat
Kodi 15.2
Blu-Ray ISO and 4K video playback
4K video output up to 30 fps supported
2.4Ghz Wi-Fi
CPU: ARM CORTEX-A9 QUAD-CORE
GPU MALI-450 OCTO-CORE
DRAM 2GB DDR3
FLASH MEMORY 8 GB
MicroSD Slot – 32gb card max
Dimensions: 15 x 11.5 x 2.5
Weight: 200g
My generic android stick is specs almost exactly the same, my issue with it is ****e wifi speed, go to testmy.net and see what speed your wifi runs at..
this is the nexus 5ghz wifi
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nexus with 1gb usb eth..
These speeds are 5x to 10x faster than what I was getting from the built in wifi on my generic android tv stick..