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okay. since Android got it self a forum, i thougt we need a Ubuntu thread. I have no idea if this post belong here, but i belive it needs to be somewhere. I love to have a full Ubuntu running with WiFi at least. The Andriod and Ubuntu thread is overwhelmd with Andriod dev so here i go. If the Ubuntu developers for HD2 want to setup a thread of there own i would love it
Also read the first sticky Linux post for current info and files . Im not a developer just a user hoping for further development on Ubuntu, and i hope im not alone out there
My story so far:
I have used Ubunto now for a while with a USB hub with a mouse, keyboard, soundcard and external power. So far i found Ubunto to be a bit unstable. Feels like its easy to make it drop out. I have ended up with no startmeny and no computer icons, leaving me with just desktop pic and i have to press power/hangupp button to shut it down.
Also playing music in included music player is a bit shaky, sometime i dont get audio and need to change a couple of tracks to get it to play again.
BTW anybody have a password problem? If i want to change time as a example,i need to type a password and its not accepting "ubuntu"?
Also, anybody have managed to get landscape somehow? Would also be nice to get WiFi up and running, so if a dev has any ideas on possible updates on progress would be nice. I have no mobile usb dongle so i havent been able to try that.
So how your experience so far? Type away and lets at least share what we know.
Best regards from me.
ROM, latest NRG cookie dilink glass edition
Radio, 2,12,50
only ubuntu download link i found
gamesquare.co.uk/ubuntuh.html
wow, talkabout being the only one wanting Ubuntu on my HD2. Sorry, wont ask again.
I would definitely be interested in running Ubuntu on my HD2 - it is the OS of choice for my desktop. Is there any bluetooth support at present? I have a BT keyboard / mousepad combo and that would make it very useable for me.
ok but if i don't have a keyboard for my phone and i want to use ubuntu .. i reallt can't use it ? is there any virtual keyboard ..?
Bluetooth and WiFi is currently not working, also no sound.
BUT there is built in usb support. I went to rhe cheepest electronic store and bougt a USB HUB that has its own power adaptor, also som USB cables and adaptors.
A regular pc keyboard, mouse, mobile internet dongle etc. Everything being USB can be used. And i also found in a drawer of mine a usb stick soundcard. So basicly as it is now, all works with some cheep usb tec, but as stated, i have no mobile internet so dont know if it works.I did get to borrow a dongle for like 5min and it found the internet supplyer etc so should work i guess.
Now i realise for some that they might go banana because they cant use Ubuntu without USB gadgets. But thats one reason to try to get the developers attention. If you get to connect some usb stuff(mouse being the least, no k-board if you want to just try it out, i belive you will get hooked on the idea and trying out stuff of your own. I find it fun connecting all old USB stuff i have lying around.
Next step is to add my 1TB usb drive, maybe get to watch some movies.
So, its Ubunto is its birth at least crawling. But with the full attention on Andriod it seems Ubuntu is getting forgotten, hence this thread, so they notice us, and while we wait, try it and report here in lack of space, only wish this could be a sticky or a seperat dev Ubuntu thread because, were drowning in the Android happiness going on.
I will keep testing its 0,1 beta further to se what makes it tick. But im no developer, just a concernd fan, but im having fun, so i report my findings, fun to be in the edge, or birth of something so comon, bring out the dea...ops, i mean bring out your USB gadgets and play, who knows, you might have fun as i.
..oh, sorry for missing one reply here. Found no virtual keyboard so far, this password thing is my biggest concern atm, its like admin rights i need.
Some touch screen implementation is in there, so you can use your fingers to move around and dubble tapp opens SOME stuff and menys. Not very presise but it works if your patient.
Heres a list of USB gadgets im using atm.
HUB: Plexgear, 4 usb ports + 1 data port (its where you plugin you HD2) + power adaptor (Incl in the package)
Mouse: A old Microsoft 2.0 wired mouse and a reaaally sheep wirless mouse, just tried if wireless mouse would work, and i can confirm it does.
Keyboard: A mini keyboard named Zippy with built in blue lights, got to type in style =)
Sound: A no name usb stick not much larger then the usb reciver for a wirless mouse. All it says on the stick is " USB Audio Controller. I belive i heard somthing they going for the amout of 17$ or somthing.
Harddrive: Tryed my 1TB drive, maybe its to large to get recognized or something, but i cant find it atm.
BTW Anybody have a small USB HD lying around they could test?
Nakazul said:
okay. since Android got it self a forum, i thougt we need a Ubuntu thread. I have no idea if this post belong here, but i belive it needs to be somewhere.
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'HD2 Android Development' naming is erroneous for that reason. I vote we rename the forum Linux and Android development.
-Most elementary progress is seated in the kernel - which has nothing to do with android in the first place. The kernel is Linux and not android.
-Android is not the only userland usable. As seen here there is ubuntu and other stuff.
edit: Find a thread discussing this issue here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654560
I can fix you ubuntu 0.2 with wifi and all kinds of stuff soon.
Nakazul said:
wow, talkabout being the only one wanting Ubuntu on my HD2. Sorry, wont ask again.
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cant wait to boot up ubuntu on my hd2. But still cant even boot up with v0.1.
dcordes, ur great man! love how the team actually progresses to achieve the current state.
just would like to ask issit possible, technically, to tap on gprs while running ubuntu? Was thinking bout it but not technically sure.
wangiles said:
dcordes, ur great man! love how the team actually progresses to achieve the current state.
just would like to ask issit possible, technically, to tap on gprs while running ubuntu? Was thinking bout it but not technically sure.
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you're welcome. yes that's possible I'm working on it as we speak.
speedwie said:
cant wait to boot up ubuntu on my hd2. But still cant even boot up with v0.1.
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Hmm, thats bad. I read the read me file and it booted up nicly. Are you using stock rom or somthing? What happent for you?
What i did was basicly just extract the folder "Ubuntu and copied it to storage card so the Ubuntu folder was in the root of the SD. First try i had no hub or mouse or anything connected just to se if it worked.
Im using latest NRG rom from 24th, cookie Dinik version with 2.12.50 radio, i have 575MB activated.
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woooo, lovly, cant wait to try it out.
linux distro
wich linux distro would it be better for android?
i would say the ubuntu netbook remix
but thats only me...
i can't wait to use it, the kernel its almost done anyway (android), also wouldn't it be possible to swap between the 2 of them? (android and linux) i know you can with a piece of software change between gnome and kde or other in ubuntu, i already used it.
cheers
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in android you just can't keep up with the thread, speak of linux and nobody cares, ndo they know what we are on about?
i don't think so...
I've been using Ubuntu linux as the only OS on my laptop I use for everything (school, work, personal stuff) for about a year now. I absolutely love it, and if it weren't for games and some work stuff, I would also switch to Ubuntu with my desktop. One thing that did give me a lot of headaches on my laptop was my phone though: I've had lots of trouble with the combination of my HD2 and ubuntu/linux (obviously, since M$ does not support linux at all).
But still, I don't really feel the need to have ubuntu on my phone. I'm happy with android because that is supported well by my ubuntu laptop, but I don't see how an OS that has been made for screens of 7" or bigger (taking into account the netbook edition, otherwise I'd say 12") and input by mouse/keyboard can be really useful on a 4" mobile phone.
If you want a debian-based distro that is useful on your phone I'd look at Maemo/Meego: these distro's are more open and desktop-like than android but have been made for usage on a phone (touch)screen. I just have no idea how much work it would be to port one of these OSes.
I respect that people want to tinker around with ubuntu and try to get it to work, but personally I think it is best to have as many as possible developers working on Android itself rather than not-so-useful side projects...
ah well, just my two cents
port linux
to port ubuntu or any other distro to a mobile all you need is the kernel, for htc hd2 its almost ready, on top of the kernel you can put whichever linux u want, maemo android linux whatever u want.
I know that, I was talking about the portability of the OS itself... the software on the OS has to communicate with the right drivers and stuff. Since android runs on HTC devices with similar software, a lot of stuff can be copied. Maemo normally runs on a Nokia device, Ubuntu is mainly developed for x86/x64 hardware, that's why I think they're more of a job to port.
yeah should be quite a challenge but i believe that is what drives this guys, anyway ubuntu is already running on hd2 my concerns are actually the distro to be used that makes it usable, i mean if i have to carry a keyboard and mouse to make it work its not very practical. i rather have a choice to use it or not, regarding the os communicating with the drivers it should be quite straight forward since ubuntu is pretty much plug and play at the moment, it will detect your hardware (drivers).
Hello. I was looking to replace my laptop these days and since i own a desktop pc,i was thinking maybe a tablet would be a solid solution for something more mobile. I own an android smartphone,but i don't know tablets and their limitations. So,to be more specific:
1) Is it possible to read/write data to external devices,like hdd or usb? And if so, does it need root or is it stock enabled?
2)Is it possible to mirror screen to a monitor? I'm reading strange answers about miracast and i am not completely sure if its micro hdmi out enables mirror screening or just movie streaming.
3)You think it is possible to do some programming on it? Obviously i am not talking about serious and heavy stuff, but since it comes with the best processor out on tablets-yet- and 2gb ram and there are many IDE's on play store i'm guessing it should be ok? Also,would it be a near laptop experience if i installed the linux app?
Hope i did't tire you,thanks for reading.
1)https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer&hl=en <- non root.
2)HDMI out does complete mirroring iir
3)well, you could boot ubuntu if you HAD to. but i don't see why not.
I don't think Android in general is well suited for a laptop replacement. I need things like the ability to view more than one window at a time, particularly when programming.
That said, one of the first things I want to do is work on being able to dual boot Linux and Android. For most entertainment type things Android is best but for productivity I'd prefer to boot Linux.
Same here. I mainly got the Nexus 10 as a laptop/desktop alternative to connect to external LCD monitor, keyboard, mouse and possibly USB storage. It obviously seems powerful enough.
Questions:
Since the built-in display resolution is 2560x1600 and the HDMI output is 1920x1080 does it scale down the built-in display when mirroring?
In mirroring mode can you use the tablet as a touch input (laying it flat next to the keyboard) in place of mouse?
Thanks.
Thank you all for the fast answers.
1)From what i saw,usb importer is for reading only,not writing. So i'm guessing root is needed?
2)Thanks,i didn't know it mirrored to screen.
3)You are right about that part,programming needs many windows. Im guessing apps that offer ide's with multi tabs and possibly extending the display through the hdmi out to two monitors instead of mirror could be possible,right? How does the tablet do with compiling/running speed?
Obviously you are right though, dual boot would be the best option.
Thanks again.
If you are looking for the desktop experience, laptop is still your best choice, there's plenty of processing power, program compatibility, storage and screen space at ~$500. Tablets are mobile devices with limited HW and OS, but in return significantly faster internet, social media and multimedia access, better screen, longer battery life and much comfortable weight allowing the kind of easy use (e-reading in bed etc.) a laptop cannot. The closest tablets to a real laptop are the full Windows8 ones starting around $1000. If I wanted the programs and stuff I'd go with a $500 laptop, if I wanted the larger mobile, multimedia and reading experience, which I do, I'd get the Nexus 10.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7
That'll most likely happen on the Nexus 10 as well at some point
Does anyone know if its possible to mirror the display of my android device to my touchscreen PC?
I can mirror my phone to my HDMI TV, so if I have HDMI input can I mirror my phone to my touchscreen windows 8 tablet and control it? I have Surface RT, so I am really doubting it, but I would like to know if anyone even knows if this is possible in any version of Windows. What would kick ass, is if you could take a rooted device, plug it in, force tablet mode, and control your phone, and all applications with your tablet. Instead of using Bluestacks emulation, you would think you could just plug your phone in and use it. I assume it would either need to be via USB, or Micro HDMI
also, is it possible to use my Surface RT as an external monitor for my PC? I know I can use an external monitor for my surface, but can you do it the other way around?
Thanks
No, it is not possible.
Root the android device, install a VNC server, and use a VNC client on the desktop to see the Android's output.
Just to note, it won't properly forward touchscreen events for multitouch and the like.
OK, so coming from Surface RT, this thing is small, really small, but I like it, because its soooooo much faster than the Surface RT was. I found myself using my surface for consumption 95% of the time, and the other 5% was doing remote access work. Now, I don't even have to use remote access, x86 support is amazing.
- No web compromises at all - Silverlight support (Time Warner Cable streaming TV - device got really warm doing this, probably why its not supported on WinRT), Java, all the Google stuff, just work with x86, no more sad workarounds through crappy 3rd party apps for RT. Not sure what having Silverlight, Java, Chrome will do to the battery, but so far, its pretty great. I streamed NFL game through IE yesterday, still had 70% battery left after 3.5 hour continuous stream. The back of the device gets warm, but not bad at all.
- Install TouchMousePointer - http://www.lovesummertrue.com/touchm...-us/index.html for those times where you need mouse pointer support on your desktop. I tried to use an Android trackpad app, it didn't work. Im going to be getting new Nokia Lumia 929 on release day, hopefully it works in the MS ecosystem.
- Active Pen support (Synaptics) - I have yet to use this, but reviews elsewhere aren't so great. For the most part, they say that if your a printer, its terrible. If you use cursive for note taking, its good. I am coming from a really bad capacitive (almost unusable), so any improvement will be good........not to mention that I didn't have to spend 1200$ on Surface Pro to get active digitizer. (eta on stylus delivery is 11/7), ill update my review then.
- Bluetooth mouse is a bit laggy, not sure if its my mouse, or the tablet. Maybe a driver update is needed. It seems a bit jumpy......going to see if I can try a different one, hopefully its just the mouse, and not the hardware.
- Micro USB - I really wish I could plug in non powered USB drives via an OTG cable adapter, but unfortunately they do not work. I will have to buy a powered hub to get it to work. Kind of annoying, but its the price you pay to have a device this small. The fact that I can connect to home group, and utilize file transfer via wireless network is a great feature of windows 8.
- No wired external display options - I have yet to try using MHL - anyone try this yet? Im hoping that it works. If not, Ill have to try a Miracast receiver - I am concerned with any lag that could occur though.
- Accessories...........or lack thereof - there are no accessories, dell has an overpriced case (40$), and a 35$ stylus that others suggest shouldn't cost more than 10-15$. I would love to find a good case that would prop it up........Not sure why other OEMs don't understand the importance of a good integrated kickstand - really missing this from the Surface. Wondering if a case from a Note 8, or Kindle, or Nexus would work, don't have time to compare sizes, etc........too busy tinkering, and installing real software on this thing.
- Performance - FAST....a lot faster than I thought.......this isn't your typical Atom processor, check out youtube, there are some videos of this thing playing some serious games at 30fps.....it is legit. Windows apps from the store are super fast, switching between them, etc.........see below for some desktop apps ive installed:
(note, I chose older versions of software purposefully because they are much less taxing on the cpu, but still serve 98% of their purpose):
- AutoCAD 2007 - runs great, faster than on my laptop (its an old laptop with core2duo processor, and AMD gpu). I haven't tried anything 3D, but I assume it will handle basic functions fine - im not going to render anything with it - that's what remote access is for, but in a pinch, if I need to I can open files natively. It tells me that its not compatible with windows 8, but files open no problem. I think im missing some fonts, etc, but for the most part, running AutoCAD on a 8" screen is freaking cool.
- Photoshop CS6 - runs great, haven't tried anything gpu intensive - it opens images Pretty quick.
Want to try Lightroom, Google Earth, VLC, Spotify desktop version, Remote desktop - yes, im going to set up so I can remote access my tablet.........don't ask, just because I can - and that's the beauty of Windows 8!!!...........32gb is pretty limited....I might return it for the 64gb version - unless there any way to install x86 apps, and/ or move installed metro apps to the SD card?
Loving it so far, it has some minor issues, so close to being the PERFECT portable device. If I were an OEM mfr, id make full USB port a priority - if you have to have a small hump on one end to support it, then so be it, its sooooooo much better to not have to have an OTG adaptor cable. Also, HDMI out should be standard as well, especially since Miracast is still somewhat new tech.
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- No web compromises at all - Silverlight support (Time Warner Cable streaming TV - device got really warm doing this, probably why its not supported on WinRT),
Not sure what having Silverlight, Java, Chrome will do to the battery, but so far, its pretty great.
unless there any way to install x86 apps, and/ or move installed metro apps to the SD card?
Loving it so far, it has some minor issues, so close to being the PERFECT portable device. If I were an OEM mfr, id make full USB port a priority - if you have to have a small hump on one end to support it, then so be it, its sooooooo much better to not have to have an OTG adaptor cable. Also, HDMI out should be standard as well, especially since Miracast is still somewhat new tech.
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Warm isnt why silverlight wasnt support on windows RT (winRT and windows RT are not the same btw, although it is true that there is no silverlight on WinRT I guess). Its obsolete and hardly supported by microsoft, they dont want to bother porting tech that they cant be bothered with on x86 any more to win32 on ARM too.
Silverlight, java and chrome wont effect the battery on your tablet any more than they would on a laptop really.
Its normal windows 8.1, so you can install x86 desktop programs onto whichever drive you want, hence why most software installers specifically ask where to install, just set that to SD card. There is no requirement to use C:/Program Files for win32 applications. That one I thought was common knowledge for all windows users.
Full size USB port would be nice but you wont get full current from it. The battery cannot supply enough current, nothing to do with overall size of the system. The same restriction applies to most windows tablets, android tablets, android phones and more rarely laptops too (although usually old ones).
It really was dumb of dell to not stick a video output somewhere on the device, that almost puts me off the thing entirely.
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Warm isnt why silverlight wasnt support on windows RT (winRT and windows RT are not the same btw, although it is true that there is no silverlight on WinRT I guess). Its obsolete and hardly supported by microsoft, they dont want to bother porting tech that they cant be bothered with on x86 any more to win32 on ARM too.
Silverlight, java and chrome wont effect the battery on your tablet any more than they would on a laptop really.
Its normal windows 8.1, so you can install x86 desktop programs onto whichever drive you want, hence why most software installers specifically ask where to install, just set that to SD card. There is no requirement to use C:/Program Files for win32 applications. That one I thought was common knowledge for all windows users.
Full size USB port would be nice but you wont get full current from it. The battery cannot supply enough current, nothing to do with overall size of the system. The same restriction applies to most windows tablets, android tablets, android phones and more rarely laptops too (although usually old ones).
It really was dumb of dell to not stick a video output somewhere on the device, that almost puts me off the thing entirely.
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Are you referring to Silverlight the API or Silverlight the video format xD? The API was integrated in .Net and winRT.
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Are you referring to Silverlight the API or Silverlight the video format xD? The API was integrated in .Net and winRT.
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I was not aware of any video format known as silverlight so you tell me which one I meant.
The API was always .NET based but uses one hell of alot of extensions. Silverlight programs will not run on a bare .NET virtual machine, even the windows 8 one. Easily proven with this lovely thing called trying it at home. .NET was integrated to winRT, silverlights "extra bits" were not.
Last major update to silverlight was december 2011. All releases since have been patch only. Silverlight has poor support outside of windows. Silverlight is entirely unsupported on android, iOS and linux, it seems rather unstable on OSX although that could just be the ancient OSX memory leak (personally witnessed OSX memory leaking on over 10 machines, yet you mention it on the apple forums asking for help in a polite manner and your thread gets deleted or they attribute it to firefox which is great but of the machines I have seen the issue on only 1 had firefox installed, my dads current mac it actually seems to be iTunes, quicktime, vuze and dropbox which are the main offenders) plus my dads mac having hardly any RAM probably compound this. Flash also sucks yet I would choose it over silverlight any day. Any company that limits itself to using silverlight for anything web based is utterly idiotic, except maybe in a thin client environment in some sort of corporation with windows thin clients perhaps, but even then I doubt the suitability in that role...
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I was not aware of any video format known as silverlight so you tell me which one I meant.
The API was always .NET based but uses one hell of alot of extensions. Silverlight programs will not run on a bare .NET virtual machine, even the windows 8 one. Easily proven with this lovely thing called trying it at home. .NET was integrated to winRT, silverlights "extra bits" were not.
Last major update to silverlight was december 2011. All releases since have been patch only. Silverlight has poor support outside of windows. Silverlight is entirely unsupported on android, iOS and linux, it seems rather unstable on OSX although that could just be the ancient OSX memory leak (personally witnessed OSX memory leaking on over 10 machines, yet you mention it on the apple forums asking for help in a polite manner and your thread gets deleted or they attribute it to firefox which is great but of the machines I have seen the issue on only 1 had firefox installed, my dads current mac it actually seems to be iTunes, quicktime, vuze and dropbox which are the main offenders) plus my dads mac having hardly any RAM probably compound this. Flash also sucks yet I would choose it over silverlight any day.
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Actually, Silverlight was a native API wrapped with .net methods to call from .net language. It was introduced with windows vista and most of it consumed by the WPF API implemented latter. The API itself survives through an open source implementation called Moonlight and is a viable cross platform GUI API.
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Actually, Silverlight was a native API wrapped with .net methods to call from .net language. It was introduced with windows vista and most of it consumed by the WPF API implemented latter. The API itself survives through an open source implementation called Moonlight and is a viable cross platform GUI API.
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Errm, no it doesnt seeming as moonlight was scrapped, besides, did you ever try moonlight? The thing did not work at all for anything more complex than hello world. Plus you said yourself, native API, entirely contradicting your previous statement of it being part of .NET, you dont really know yourself do you.
My point still stands. Unsupported on linux. Buggy on OSX. No longer being updated besides patching on windows. Not supported on mobile. Yep, totally a viable cross platform GUI.
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Warm isnt why silverlight wasnt support on windows RT (winRT and windows RT are not the same btw, although it is true that there is no silverlight on WinRT I guess). Its obsolete and hardly supported by microsoft, they dont want to bother porting tech that they cant be bothered with on x86 any more to win32 on ARM too.
Silverlight, java and chrome wont effect the battery on your tablet any more than they would on a laptop really.
Its normal windows 8.1, so you can install x86 desktop programs onto whichever drive you want, hence why most software installers specifically ask where to install, just set that to SD card. There is no requirement to use C:/Program Files for win32 applications. That one I thought was common knowledge for all windows users.
Full size USB port would be nice but you wont get full current from it. The battery cannot supply enough current, nothing to do with overall size of the system. The same restriction applies to most windows tablets, android tablets, android phones and more rarely laptops too (although usually old ones).
It really was dumb of dell to not stick a video output somewhere on the device, that almost puts me off the thing entirely.
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I have Photoshop installed on C - in order to move it to the sd card, can I just copy paste from C/Program files, or do you recommend re-installing to that particular location? Do you think there will be any noticible drop in performance from running application from micro sdhc card?
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I have Photoshop installed on C - in order to move it to the sd card, can I just copy paste from C/Program files, or do you recommend re-installing to that particular location? Do you think there will be any noticible drop in performance from running application from micro sdhc card?
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My experience with copy/pasting from C to another drive has been varied. Some applications will do it happily (GTA san andreas survived with a just a broken start menu shortcut, libre office died entirely. I would uninstall and reinstall to guarantee it survives the trip.
SD card read/write speeds should be fairly similar to the eMMC storage of the venue anyway. Application performance shouldnt be altered much.
Only other difference would be wear levelling. SSD's in desktop PC's may be slated for reduced lifetimes compared to old style magnetic hard drives, but SD cards are even worse. But they are cheap to replace and thankfully are replaceable unlike the internal storage on the tablet. Nor are they going to die on you next week, some people are regularly using raspberry pi's which boot the full system from SD card without issue (some people have also had them die from wear levelling in the pi after some heavy usage). If a pi can boot and run a full OS from SD, windows can run an application from an external SD card.
Did you tried out any games? i was wondering whether it can run old games like NFS most wanted or underground II.
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Did you tried out any games? i was wondering whether it can run old games like NFS most wanted or underground II.
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Havent tried yet, focusing on getting software I use most..........I do want some NFS, or something like it on the tablet, especially since EA has completely ignored windows 8 from a Racing / Sports game point of view. There are on screen controlers that can be used
What im wondering, is it worth it to install new games on it - say Tiger Woods 2013, and run on lower settings.........or to just go for say, TW2010, and let it run higher. I assume that because of ATOM graphics limitations on full Windows games it might be better to run older games than the newest.
Maybe i try out Call of Duty Modern Warfare from 3 or 4 years ago instead of trying to run Ghosts on the thing. I dont even know if it would run, but im just wondering if goign with older games would be a better move, any thoughts?
Cant hurt to try old and move newer if you have the games available.
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Havent tried yet, focusing on getting software I use most..........I do want some NFS, or something like it on the tablet, especially since EA has completely ignored windows 8 from a Racing / Sports game point of view. There are on screen controlers that can be used
What im wondering, is it worth it to install new games on it - say Tiger Woods 2013, and run on lower settings.........or to just go for say, TW2010, and let it run higher. I assume that because of ATOM graphics limitations on full Windows games it might be better to run older games than the newest.
Maybe i try out Call of Duty Modern Warfare from 3 or 4 years ago instead of trying to run Ghosts on the thing. I dont even know if it would run, but im just wondering if goign with older games would be a better move, any thoughts?
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yep.me too thinking of the same ,iam planning to get a baytrail windows 8 tab with 10inch display and a keyboard(not sure know which one to buy though ) .anyway it will be a bit far fetched idea to run new games on a weak processor.but id like to play 1 or 2 old games like NFS underground II or resident evil 4.
How is the Wi-Fi on the VP8? I have the latitude 10 and the Wi-Fi has always seemed sluggish. The 5g always connects at the same speed as the 2.4Ghz band. Glad to hear the bay trail performs well.
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How is the Wi-Fi on the VP8? I have the latitude 10 and the Wi-Fi has always seemed sluggish. The 5g always connects at the same speed as the 2.4Ghz band. Glad to hear the bay trail performs well.
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You do have a 5ghz router right?
Yep and a 5Ghz extender as well. My phone will connect to either of the 5g connections at least 150mb. But not so for the latitude. I am hoping the VP8 would connect faster. It will be here tomorrow.
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I have an old Linksys G router at home, that desperately needs replacing, but just haven't gotten around to it. It hasn't given me any issues with streaming media, so I just haven't been motivated, but I am really looking to boost my home wifi speeds with one of the routers that can has USB media streaming capability. That being said, my DV8P has had no issues with WIFI. My Surface RT (which I am selling), had so many issues with limited wifi. No issues with this device so far.
Just came across this video...........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPPY4m8iY0k&feature=youtu.be
full desktop computer in 8" tablet with USB 3.0 docking station. I will be buying one of these asap.
UBNAS81 said:
Just came across this video...........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPPY4m8iY0k&feature=youtu.be
full desktop computer in 8" tablet with USB 3.0 docking station. I will be buying one of these asap.
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Well not really...
It is plugged into a SINGLE micro USB 2.0 socket.. So you can NEVER get USB3.0 speed and if you use some monitors with the Pluggable, i doubt the data transfer rates will be high (and i am talking about USB 2.0 speed and not USB 3.0).
thE_29 said:
Well not really...
It is plugged into a SINGLE micro USB 2.0 socket.. So you can NEVER get USB3.0 speed and if you use some monitors with the Pluggable, i doubt the data transfer rates will be high (and i am talking about USB 2.0 speed and not USB 3.0).
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The micro USB is USB3.0
SixSixSevenSeven said:
The micro USB is USB3.0
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... And who said this? The Pluggable Guys?
The only thing, which i really trust would be the Dell specs OR if a Owner would present us some speed-tests or details from the Device-Manager in WIN8.1:
http://www.dell.com/us/p/dell-venue-8-pro/pd?oc=fncwv8p01h&model_id=dell-venue-8-pro
"Ports & Connectors
1 x Micro-AB USB2.0 (for trickle charging and data transfer)
1 x Headphone and microphone combojack
1 x 3FF micro-SIM slot (coming soon, optional with WWAN configuration)"
It is not that I would be unhappy about USB 3.0, but it is just USB 2.0..
Edit: The Dell Venue Pro 11!! has USB 3.0.. Not the 8"
So, I got the Dell Venue 8 Pro a few months ago, thinking that I'd want this super powerful portable machine that would be running a full version of windows. I've come to realize that using Windows on it is less than user friendly on such a small tablet. I boosted the icon and font sizes, but I think I would like it much more if it just ran Windows RT. The battery life seems to be less than great with full windows, maybe too may process running in the background, maybe I've let it sit too long on the table between uses. Is it possible to put RT on it?
I'm probably the first person to ask for RT over the stock OS.
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So, I got the Dell Venue 8 Pro a few months ago, thinking that I'd want this super powerful portable machine that would be running a full version of windows. I've come to realize that using Windows on it is less than user friendly on such a small tablet. I boosted the icon and font sizes, but I think I would like it much more if it just ran Windows RT. The battery life seems to be less than great with full windows, maybe too may process running in the background, maybe I've let it sit too long on the table between uses. Is it possible to put RT on it?
I'm probably the first person to ask for RT over the stock OS.
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IIRC: Windows RT runs only on ARM CPUs. So with your Intel Atom you're most likely not able to use RT. Even if you could get a licence (which are only handed out to OEMs)
Windows RT is windows 8 compiled for ARM and with signature checking enabled for desktop apps. It would not help your problem even remotely and is impossible to install anyway.
Yeah, I really don't know what problems you expect RT to *solve* here... RT is just normal Win8(.1) except it blocks most Windows software and uses a different kind of CPU (which your tablet doesn't have).
I think I am just trying to "solve" the user interface problems that I have with full Windows 8.1 vs RT. Win 8.1 is not very input friendly on an 8" screen with no keyboard or mouse. The lack of USB compiled with the not so great battery life makes this not a great option with bluetooth accessories. The power port being the only input jack makes using an adapter pointless. I didn't consider the processor limiting it's use. I guess I'll just put it on ebay...
Thanks.
User interface would be the same so it wouldnt solve anything.
USB-OTG
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User interface would be the same so it wouldnt solve anything.
USB-OTG
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By user interface, I meant using the 8" touch screen for full Windows is not a pleasant experience. If I'm using a USB to OTG adapter, I can't charge it. I can't use a mouse and a keyboard (unless I use a hub, and I'm not sure it would work, because I haven't tried that).
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By user interface, I meant using the 8" touch screen for full Windows is not a pleasant experience. If I'm using a USB to OTG adapter, I can't charge it. I can't use a mouse and a keyboard (unless I use a hub, and I'm not sure it would work, because I haven't tried that).
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Hubs work, its full windows 8, anything that works on your laptop or desktop works on the tablet. You can get USB OTG cables for simultaneous charge and device although the venue only trickle charges like this. Powered USB hubs would of course be running your USB device from external power not from the device battery (which last time I checked competed with android tablets anyway unless you have gone totally overboard with 3rd party software which permanently runs in the background)
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Hubs work, its full windows 8, anything that works on your laptop or desktop works on the tablet. You can get USB OTG cables for simultaneous charge and device although the venue only trickle charges like this. Powered USB hubs would of course be running your USB device from external power not from the device battery (which last time I checked competed with android tablets anyway unless you have gone totally overboard with 3rd party software which permanently runs in the background)
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Do you have a recommendation for a USB-OTG cable and a nice portable powered hub? I got a cheap USB-OTG cable from ebay and it is very hard to put in my micro-usb slot, almost to the point where I am nervous about using it because I am afraid that it will damage the port and essentially junk my tablet.
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Do you have a recommendation for a USB-OTG cable and a nice portable powered hub? I got a cheap USB-OTG cable from ebay and it is very hard to put in my micro-usb slot, almost to the point where I am nervous about using it because I am afraid that it will damage the port and essentially junk my tablet.
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I also just use a cheap ebay cable, no recommendations here I'm afraid.
Portable powered hubs. I am not aware of any powered hubs specifically marked as being portable per se. The powered hub I use at home for my devices is pretty compact though, its a D-Link DUB-H7 but as with all current powered hubs it is mains powered. Pimoroni manufacture a 4 port powered hub specifically for the raspberry pi, this one is actually pretty compact.
There was a company which used to sell a USB hub which had a microUSB plug wired in the OTG format and an integrated battery, but its no longer in production which is a shame because that would be absolutely perfect now.
But you can buy battery packs with a USB output. If that was combined with a standard (non powered) USB hub and one of the cables I've just posted above then that would allow the hub to run from the battery pack instead of the devices USB power. Or an approach I have personally done before (for other purposes though) would be to take a soldering iron and simply stick a DC barrel jack onto the output of a 5v regulator and an RC car battery pack on the input and use that as a replacement for the mains power supply with a powered hub (although you would have to choose the hub wisely as not all take a 5v input, some take 9 or 12v and regulate to 5 internally, the D-Link and pi ones I mention above are both 5v input though).
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By user interface, I meant using the 8" touch screen for full Windows is not a pleasant experience. If I'm using a USB to OTG adapter, I can't charge it. I can't use a mouse and a keyboard (unless I use a hub, and I'm not sure it would work, because I haven't tried that).
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Why not just use a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard? You can use both and you get to charge the tablet
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By user interface, I meant using the 8" touch screen for full Windows is not a pleasant experience.
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So use the "Modern UI" (i.e., apps from Windows Store). That's the same thing you'd get with Windows RT. It's still not clear what difference from Windows RT you are after?
Windows RT doesn't magically make the full Windows UI and all existing apps magically work on an 8" screen, rather it restricts you to Windows Store apps which you can already run on your device.
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So use the "Modern UI" (i.e., apps from Windows Store). That's the same thing you'd get with Windows RT. It's still not clear what difference from Windows RT you are after?
Windows RT doesn't magically make the full Windows UI and all existing apps magically work on an 8" screen, rather it restricts you to Windows Store apps which you can already run on your device.
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I don't like using bluetooth devices because I hate charging them up daily. I'd rather just plug in and be set.
I've had a Surface RT and found the UI much easier to use. I'd rather have better battery life and live in the Microsoft App store than using full Windows applications. The problem is that with full Windows running, even if I try to stay in the RT mode, I still get kicked out to windows to have to use the control panel, settings, and use other programs, etc. It's not a huge deal, it's just keeping me from really using it because I get a little frustrated with the flipping back and forth between desktop mode, trying to hit tiny buttons (such as minimizing and maximizing windows) and killing process that are using resources.