Wud up doh ladies.
Heres my predicament, my buds and i are driving up to daytona for SBN (spring break nationals, a bass competition) and were basically driving in a caravan.
Each car has at least 5000 rms and up to 15000 rms. (watts)
What we thought would be epic was for me to be djing off of a laptop on the way there, connected via ustream and all 5 cars tuning in to my stream allowing us to play the exact same songs at the exact same time from the 5 vehicles making you be able to hear us from a mile or so away
Predicament. To my knowledge, we have an ipad with ability to tether and nothing else as or right now considering i havent really looked too far into it.
However, We do have a power converter in one of the vehicles allowing us to use a wall outlet essentially.
I was entertaining the idea to have a router connected and to be streaming via a shoutcast server over LAN but im unaware of any app that allows you to tune into shoutcast radios being broadcast over a lan on itouch or ipad or iphone or android for that matter. I am aware that winamp allows you to plug in your listening IP but i have never tested it to work over lan nor on an android and i dont believe its on iphone etc.
So my alternative was to leech internet off the ipad, but if the caravan is 5 cars long, will all cars be able to reach the signal from the ONE ipad, and will that ipad have enough bandwidth to have me dj (upstream, upload) and 5 devices stream (downstream, download). Audio will be streamed at 48kbps if i remember correctly so the bandwidth required ISNT massive however over 5 devices i believe it might be an issue.
if the bandwidth is sufficent i was entertaining the ability to attempt to use the ipad as a WAP (Wireless access point) connected via the router then have an antenna from the router on the roof of the car to boost distance you can pick up the signal from.
WTB ANSWERS, i have 3 weeks to get this to happen
I doubt very seriously the wifi antenna in the iPad is capable of handling this sort of abuse.
You might be able to do it with a laptop and a wireless AP in infrastructure mode and have multiple clients connect to that system.
Regizzle said:
Wud up doh ladies.
Heres my predicament, my buds and i are driving up to daytona for SBN (spring break nationals, a bass competition) and were basically driving in a caravan.
Each car has at least 5000 rms and up to 15000 rms. (watts)
What we thought would be epic was for me to be djing off of a laptop on the way there, connected via ustream and all 5 cars tuning in to my stream allowing us to play the exact same songs at the exact same time from the 5 vehicles making you be able to hear us from a mile or so away
Predicament. To my knowledge, we have an ipad with ability to tether and nothing else as or right now considering i havent really looked too far into it.
However, We do have a power converter in one of the vehicles allowing us to use a wall outlet essentially.
I was entertaining the idea to have a router connected and to be streaming via a shoutcast server over LAN but im unaware of any app that allows you to tune into shoutcast radios being broadcast over a lan on itouch or ipad or iphone or android for that matter. I am aware that winamp allows you to plug in your listening IP but i have never tested it to work over lan nor on an android and i dont believe its on iphone etc.
So my alternative was to leech internet off the ipad, but if the caravan is 5 cars long, will all cars be able to reach the signal from the ONE ipad, and will that ipad have enough bandwidth to have me dj (upstream, upload) and 5 devices stream (downstream, download). Audio will be streamed at 48kbps if i remember correctly so the bandwidth required ISNT massive however over 5 devices i believe it might be an issue.
if the bandwidth is sufficent i was entertaining the ability to attempt to use the ipad as a WAP (Wireless access point) connected via the router then have an antenna from the router on the roof of the car to boost distance you can pick up the signal from.
WTB ANSWERS, i have 3 weeks to get this to happen
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Sounds like a pretty sweet idea dude! If I were in your shoes, I would create a powerful, rolling, WiFi LAN. Here's how I would do it:
Here's what you would need:
VLC (it's free)
A really powerful wireless router with external antenna's
Make sure the laptop you're going to be performing the broadcast from has its own wired network adapter
What you would do:
Connect your laptop up to the WAN port of the wireless router (the same port that you would normally connect your Cable Modem/DSL/FiOS). This is because you want your laptop to be set up as the default gateway for that LAN.
I would perform the broadcast from the middle car in the caravan for the best signal to the rest of the vehicles, possibly even use external antenna's (like, external to the car itself, not just the router) for the best possible signal quality.
Set up a local VLC streaming server on the laptop. This way you can make the stream much higher bandwidth and higher quality. Everyone can tune into with their own VLC client's, whether on other laptops, or iOS/Android devices with VLC.
Done correctly, this setup won't even require an internet connection, as everything will be done via the local network. That said, if the broadcasting laptop has a mobile connection tethered up to it, then everyone can benefit from that if they wanted to.
Overall, the mobile WLAN idea, in conjunction with a local VLC broadcast, will afford you the best audio quality along with the highest degree of reliability, as you won't need to worry about dead spots in the mobile coverage. Also, this method will yield the lowest latency (because they'd all be on the same local network), so for everyone in the caravan, their stereo's will more likely be playing the same thing at the same time as opposed to everyone playing the same thing, but all at different parts depending on their cellular network conditions.
What do you think?
Will the router do it? Unless it's a real piece of junk, yes. (And by junk I don't mean something selling new for $19.99, I mean something real cheap. Even a $20 router should handle 5 audio streams without waking up.)
Will the idea work? Not the way you want. There will be a delay of up to a few seconds between the streams to each car. All the cars can hear the same song at (within a couple of seconds at most) the same time. But close enough that there's no echo? No.
Connect a computer's web browser to a web audio source (police scanner, or anything else where the source doesn't start by your connecting to it, like a podcast will). Connect your phone to the same source (using its browser). Notice that there's a delay between them.
Nothing you can do about it - that's just how streaming works these days. Maybe for SBN 2025.
With encoding and decoding of digital audio streams, signal quality, et cetera.. you'll find it hard to achieve a truly synchronized stream. With new ATSC broadcast standards, even television sets in my household are off-sync; there is an echo.
Here's where analog synchronization comes in. It might seem very old-fashioned, but you could use an FM transmitter for this. I don't know much about them, but be aware of FCC regulations here in the states. You'll need a fairly high-power one and an omnidirectional antenna. Plan on a nice big investment, too!
Some cons to an FM transmitter:
1. Reliability: it's RARE that you'll find a vacant station in a metro area. Broadcasting over live stations is illegal, and requires a LOT more power than you can get in a portable FM transmitter.
2. Security: the music stream is unprotected. Just about anyone nearby could pick up your station and use YOUR tunes.
3. Vulnerability: it's possible that someone else could bring a more powerful FM transmitter, and broadcast Justin Bieber to your five vehicles (yikes!)
It'd probably be easier to store local copies of the music in each vehicle and use a network connection to handle synchronizing hitting the "Play" buttons.
But you'd probably have to write a whole new application.
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With encoding and decoding of digital audio streams, signal quality, et cetera.. you'll find it hard to achieve a truly synchronized stream. With new ATSC broadcast standards, even television sets in my household are off-sync; there is an echo.
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Ya, anything that encodes and decodes is very likely to do it at a slightly different rate, so synchronization would be very difficult. Even if you could get them started at the same time, they will probably slip out of sync after some time, too. This goes for the idea of just pushing "play" at the same time. Music playing at slightly different rates may sound the same to us, but will shortly fall out of sync.
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Some cons to an FM transmitter:
1. Reliability: it's RARE that you'll find a vacant station in a metro area. Broadcasting over live stations is illegal, and requires a LOT more power than you can get in a portable FM transmitter.
2. Security: the music stream is unprotected. Just about anyone nearby could pick up your station and use YOUR tunes.
3. Vulnerability: it's possible that someone else could bring a more powerful FM transmitter, and broadcast Justin Bieber to your five vehicles (yikes!)
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On the other hand, to broadcast only a few hundred feet you could probably get something at a computer store that would handle it. I know I picked up a $10 FM transmitter meant for iPods and CD players to connect them to a car stereo. It transmits from my computer to my stereo about 50ft away with no problem, though I haven't tested the limits. It would be easy enough to just plug it into your DJ machine and set all the cars to the same radio station. You could try sticking it to the top of the car and see how far away the other cars still get a clear signal. If it's not enough, you could probably pop it open and extend the antenna a little and get better range.
Where are you driving UP from? Cuba? All of that for a 4 hour trip if you are as far South as Miami?
xpather that
Cool idea
i'd go with analog, i.e. FM transmitter
You ought to have good line of sight on the other members of your caravan.. While I'd recommend keeping the DJ in the center of the pack, even if all five cars were strung along you ought to get good signal from front to back. Just don't get too separated (finding ways to manage that is half the fun of caravaning).
I'll echo what was said above and recommend you preload your songs on all the devices. Streaming synchronized audio is simply impractical. *Playing* all the songs at the same times might be more doable. Maybe. Your mileage may vary, etc etc.
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Hi, as we'll all end up with an xda2, and they seem set to have built in Buetooth. I thought a thread all about the possitive applications for Bluetooth would be useful.
Can we steer away from the 'why can't it just have wifi' argument and actually discuss uses for bluetooth.
My thoughts are...
Bt gps mouse for the car would be fantastic. allowing you to pass the xda around the car and still have it picking up a signal. even take it outside the car when stopped to plan the rest of your route.
I have a broadband internet connection at home, running from a dedicated server machine, by Bt'ing the server i'll be able to wirelessly surf the net anywhere in my house, that would rock! internet based voice comms in my mobile. guess you could also Bt activesync if you really felt the need, but i tend to charge it at the same time so i'll stilll be plugging a cable in.
Bt headsets could be good. driving along the road and your phone rings etc...
Guess you could Bt contacts and appointments etc
Bt games could be interesting, think theres a worms clone called snails that already does this.
Does anyone know if it'll be able to connect to more than one Bt device at a time? say a gps system and a headset? or my server machine and a headset? Can anyone think of Bt uses that i've overlooked
i hope your house's not so big do not forget BTs range does not go over 10 meters and BT is much more subject to interferences frequencies with other devices than 802.b or g protocol. Even more BT max speed theorically is 2 Mbps, whereas wifi 802.11b is 10 and 802.11g is 54
i guess THAT makes the difference too
BT is more secure ok but within a very limited range and brandwidth, perfect for headsets
You can use multiple devices. BT effectively doesn't even give the full 10-meter specified range (unless it is Class II, 100 meter spec). It is very slow with an effective throughput around 700k. It is fantastic for headsets, and still much faster than GPRS. The GPS thing makes me laugh though...both devices need power, so why not just cable them together?!?
is it possible to get bluetooth relayed from my main computer all around my house so that i have wireless internet for my xda2?
something like a relayer of some description.
oh and is it possible to do this cheaply.. if not il go for wifi lol.
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Yes, I use this all the time. I'd recommend getting a Bluetooth 100m adaptor. Connect via BT Activesync.
I would recommend wifi rather than bluetooth for networking in the house. It is much faster and far more stable and doesnt need line of sight.
i have a 100m connector for my pc. but my pda can only do 10m... so can i relay something in my room just to get the extra 10m or something? if so how?
bluetooth isn't line of sight either.
if you have the 100m repeater, it shouldn't matter how far the pda can see, the 100m repeater should get the signal into your room or wherever. only one of the devices needs to be strong, not both.
im not sure why its not working
the xda series bluetooth is only 10m
so as far as i know having a 100m bluetooth dongle dont help
because both ends have to be cetified for 100m for it to have a
range of 100m
maybe some repeater would work
of cause it would prob be more expensive then going wifi
also i find bluetooth slow
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I would recommend wifi rather than bluetooth for networking in the house. It is much faster and far more stable and doesnt need line of sight.
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Bluetooth doesn't need line of sight either. Performance varies, but is actually better than WiFi in some circumstances. It does not matter that your device can only handle 10m, a 100m dongle will still transmit faster to a further distance, in my experience.
Well from experience and having spent quite a bit of money on setting up bluetooth networks in my home...it sucks bigtime. I now have wireless and have never had a problem.
Rudegear, yes you are correct, although it doesnt sound logical it makes no difference whether you have a 100 mtr adaptor on your desktop, if your phone does only 10 meters it will struggle. I had a 100 meter usb dongle but lost signal in the next bedromm.
The reason I mentioned line of sight is because the signal seems to be drastically reduced when it has travelled through a wall, whereas if it is in the same room it will be ok. WiFi is designed for fast data connection over distance while bluetooth is a low power application that has relatively low data speeds.
i think if i put a usb 100 m in a room upstairs aswell then itl work... i have a crappy comp tht i cud use but is it worth doing... i mean its another £20.. i probably will.. thx fr the help.
WIFI v Bluetooth
We have both running, and my wife and i both using simultaneously the XDAII, we measured manually the speed between, and WIFI was marginally better.
We were both in the room next door. However, we do get better distance from the WIFI rather than the bluetooth.
Both were centralised to the house, and both at the same height (about 1.6m high), and all can reach around the house. Few houses get over 20mx20m, so if you centralise either or, you can get around it easy enough with adequate coverage.
WIFI is generally better as most routers and WIFI units can handle multiple simultaneous access, where as bluetooth struggles.
would bluetooth not loose connection speed as the range inc much more then wifi would ?
the watt they send are much much lower
Hi Aidwe,
I just installed a Bluetooth Access Point DBT-900AP from D-Link (euro 50).
Bluetooth-to-LAN Access Point
Connect it somewhere to your internet router/modem/switch via Ethernet.
The box will get an IP-adress and via Bluetooth PAN-profile, you will have internet access throughout the house (circle of +- 10 mtr. around the access point).
My only problem: the Magician (T-Mobile MDA Compact) doesn't support the bluetooth protocol standard, but out of the box XDA's with the Bluetooth Manager will work.
www.dlink.de
http://www.ameinfo.com/44944.html
Greetings Ben...
P.S. no info about the DBT-900 on www.dlink.com !
not sure about the bluetooth stack on universal but himalaya default ms bluetooth stack dont support PAN
Any PPC with 100 meters bluetooth?(or CF card)
Any PPC with 100 meters bluetooth?(or CF card)
SPB has gone to freeware for their mobile TV software:
http://spb.com/pocketpc-software/tv/download.html?
I tested it and it works fine, but at my current location I have to use low definition.
"Hi"Def (350Kbps) is certainly an improvement over the lower (150?100? kbps), but I find that some channels skip with it. The classic (old B&W mainly) SciFi and Comedy channels (forgotten the names, sorry) for example. Other channels are OK. You often get a few seconds of audio before video appears, and then first second or two of video is jerkier than what follows. Basically don't write off a channel until you've viewed it for at least 10-15 seconds. The skipping stops on lower bandwidth version.
I'm not sure whether the video/audio skipping I mentioned will happen to all people, or whether they have a lot of packets dropping on the way to Kazakhstan. Can't be bothered find stream addresses and trace routing, but something to try another day.
Oh, using WiFi onto a 1Mbit ADSL line btw, no 3G out here, so not able to test Edge quality.
Hello all,
I'm looking to purchase a Tablet to satisfy a couple of my needs and would like to find out if some of my ideas are possible.
I spend a fair amount of my time in and out of my car so I'm looking to use a Galaxy tab for Satnav, music, phone access and emails. I spotted a Samsung dock that looks promising the "EDD-D1B1BEGSTD" (cannot link as a new user)
It charges it and has audio out which is perfect so I don't have to mess about with plugging in different cables everytime im in and out of the car just drop in and go with an aux in car stereo ready. My concern is it doesn't looks like it could take breaking/acceleration forces very well. Do any other docking stations have both charging and audio that are more car specific?
I don't want 2 contracts for 3G connection so can i confirm i can bluetooth my HTC desire to my tablet to access the internet?
As far as satnav goes, is it possible to have google maps offline?
Is it possible to bluetooth my HTC desire to the tablet to make and receive calls? As if the Tablet is plugged into my car stereo it would be a nice to have hands free calls. Would this be able to pull up my contacts from my phone too?
Out of interest would it be able to use a torrent manager and save directly to a network device/nasbox
Hope some people can answer my questions as im almost certain im going to make a purchase
Cheers
Alex
Any dock you purchase will struggle in the car as it is quite large in size - I see the tab as more of a co-pilot/navigator's unit which can be handheld or on a lap. I would recommend looking at reviews carefully and looking for any videos of the mount in action before purchasing. I do find the gps reception excellent and Google Navigation is fairly good though not quite TomTom quality.
For car audio, I'd recommend a bluetooth car stereo as this makes connection and playback much simpler.
Google Maps can be downloaded offline up to about 10-15 "squares" of information but this doesn't work for the Google navigation app. Google Navigation requires an internet connection to create a route and any wrong turns will also require the internet as a re-route is made. Probably best navigation is Sygic which is free to try for a month and then is about €20 to keep the maps and it works all offline.
There are a few apps that link the phone and tablet for messaging but not sure about calls if your car would be connected to tablet then the phone couldn't connect to car stereo if a call comes in I think.
There are loads of apps for getting nzbs/torrents and sending them to your NAS remotely, e.g. Synodroid is the one I use for Synology NAS.
So I'm really after an in car mount with just the one connector... But has audio out and charging... any ideas?
If I'm bluetoothing my HTC Desire to the tablet my understanding is I then cannot pair with a car stereo so would rather the in car month had audio out.
If your Desire has a 3g connection, you can create a wifi hotspot for the Tab... that way you can use Google maps for navigation on the tab (I've tried it with my Tab + Arc, works great!) Ofcourse, it does use quite a bit of data.. so unless you have around 2gb a month this would not be a viable option
Also if your car has bluetooth you can pair it with the phone/tablet to get audio over bluetooth ( no cables required)
I use my Tab for navigation. Google cached maps are useless without a wireless connection if you go off route. You need something like CoPilot (what I use) or Sygic which stores all map data locally on the device. There's no "official" car dock so you'll have to use the single port and a car charger to keep it charged. You can either use the audio out port to connect physically to the car's audio via a 3.5mm jack or some type of BT adapter connected to the car's audio to connect wirelessly.
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F8Z492-P-Bluetooth-Music-Receiver/dp/B0047T79VS
The idea of the docking situation is to make it as simple/lazy as possible. I find if I've got to mess about before a journey i just wont use the tech so wont buy it.
Ideal situation is, I walk up to my car with the tablet in bag and desire in my pocket. I step inside the car, drop the tablet in the docking station (no messing about with cables or adjusting cradles) turn tablet bluetooth on via widget on desktop and have everything ready to go. Data connection + phone ready to use when I want it and music/handfree kit through the car speakers via the aux in connection on the docking station.
The idea behind using bluetooth for Data is I could leave bluetooth on my Desire 24/7 (I already do) leave the phone in my pocket (not setup my phone for tethering each journey) push one button on my tablet and I'm ready to go. This could hopefully keep my data plan down to a minimal usage.
I know it sounds petty but in real life I want to get in and go.
Do people kind of understand what I mean? Or am i being too lazy/picky
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Or am i being too lazy/picky
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^^^^^
This.
At least as far as tablets go. You could probably fabricate something yourself using the Tab media dock and a third party mount yourself, but nothing like what you're looking for currently exists.
I don't think I'm asking too much and I'll still prob go ahead with one but it would be nice to have all the features...
I'm kinda going on this video (though its not in english) that you can tether your data via Bluetooth w.youtube.com/watch?v=5hglunqoZLo&feature=related (I can't post videos as a new user)
But I don't know if the phone's calls\sms\contacts can be tethered to the tablet. Plus it will need to do all the above while sending data...
Navigation im not too bothered about, ill prob just either use data like I've been doing with my Desire or download tomtom
Then all I need to find is either a docking station that's more car friendly with same functions or modify the samsung one some how to make it more secure
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Hello all,
I'm looking to purchase a Tablet to satisfy a couple of my needs and would like to find out if some of my ideas are possible.
I spend a fair amount of my time in and out of my car so I'm looking to use a Galaxy tab for Satnav, music, phone access and emails. I spotted a Samsung dock that looks promising the "EDD-D1B1BEGSTD" (cannot link as a new user)
It charges it and has audio out which is perfect so I don't have to mess about with plugging in different cables everytime im in and out of the car just drop in and go with an aux in car stereo ready. My concern is it doesn't looks like it could take breaking/acceleration forces very well. Do any other docking stations have both charging and audio that are more car specific?
I don't want 2 contracts for 3G connection so can i confirm i can bluetooth my HTC desire to my tablet to access the internet?
As far as satnav goes, is it possible to have google maps offline?
Is it possible to bluetooth my HTC desire to the tablet to make and receive calls? As if the Tablet is plugged into my car stereo it would be a nice to have hands free calls. Would this be able to pull up my contacts from my phone too?
Out of interest would it be able to use a torrent manager and save directly to a network device/nasbox
Hope some people can answer my questions as im almost certain im going to make a purchase
Cheers
Alex
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Google maps WILL cache for offline navigation, BUT you have to enable it in the Labs options, and predefine each area you want pre-cached making it pretty worthless. Your best option is to get wireless tethering working on your phone so you have a live internet connection on your tablet.
Docking your tab in the car will be a DIY project. I am sure it can be done but I have not run across any car docks that would work with this device. Charging can be tricky as well. The Tab requires 2 amps in its stock configuration. Very few car chargers put out that power. There are some rooted options that you can learn about.
As far as navigation goes, your best bet is a nav app such as Copilot. I have this app and find that it is as good or better than a stand alone GPS and the cost is very reasonable. My version does not offer voice control but there may be something newer out there that does.
The Tab can be tethered to a phone, (after rooting), but I have no experience with this so I cannot provide any advice. If it were me, I would use the phone for the stuff it does best and the Tab for what it does best. Phones are great for making and receiving calls as well as sending music to your car stereo. With a bit of effort you can do those things with the Tab but why reinvent the wheel. The Tab is best for things that require a larger screen. In the car, that would be Internet, assuming you have 3G access or are tethered along with navigation. The two devices compliment each other but IMO, cannot totally replace the other.
Hopefully this helps.
Bob
I'm fairly confident I can achieve what I'm looking for with a little modification. My Desire is already rooted with MIUI ill prob end up rooting the tab shortly after I purchase one too.
I think its just going to be a case of getting one and playing with it...
Just to confirm theres nothing really between the samsung and the Motorola xoom from a rooting/modification point of view?
No, no difference as far as rooting afaik.
I'd be interested into how you get on with your tinkering
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Well ive done it, ive put an order in for one with a Samsung docking station. Once it arrives ill report back with what i can and can't do
I figure if anyone knows, it will be someone here ... I grabbed a new laptop (broke screen on old one) It's an HP Envy m7 ... pretty nice rig with 17.3" touch screen, i7, 12g, beats audio ... I drive a truck and listen to my Detroit Tigers games through the phone via MLB At Bat ... I am trying to figure out how to stream the audio from the phone to the laptop via Bluetooth so I can listen to the games on the HP.
I come up empty on google searches. From what I've found in Media Player, I can stream out but not in with that... I go into sound properties where it shows the available devices; speakers, microphone and the phone when paired doesn't show up as a device in there. My Dell had an external microphone jack on the side and I was able to change the properties of that to 'line in' ... then I would plug the phone headphone jack into mic jack and listen to it that way. This rig only has an internal mic, no jack.
Any ideas/suggestions?
Edit: Running Windows 8.1 BTW ....
Sounds like you should just connect your pc to your phones tethering and stream from the pc.
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Sounds like you should just connect your pc to your phones tethering and stream from the pc.
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The MLB app is device specific and I'd have to buy a new subscription for the lappy. Yeah I know, spend nearly a grand on a lap top but don't want to spend 20 bux on a subscription sounds kind of ironic !!
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The MLB app is device specific and I'd have to buy a new subscription for the lappy. Yeah I know, spend nearly a grand on a lap top but don't want to spend 20 bux on a subscription sounds kind of ironic !!
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@Chopstix9 are there any radio stations local to you that broadcast the game when it's on? I kno iHeartRadio and RadioPup and some other apps stream those local stations to your phone and or PC or other device for free.. May be worth a little hunt to save some $$$
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@Chopstix9 are there any radio stations local to you that broadcast the game when it's on? I kno iHeartRadio and RadioPup and some other apps stream those local stations to your phone and or PC or other device for free.. May be worth a little hunt to save some $$$
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Of course there is ... and I listen to that local Detroit sports talk radio station almost all day via radio.com over the net on the laptop with the phone broadcasting the net signal for connection (I'm an over the road truck driver). But even though they broadcast the games on the radio, they are not permitted to over the internet. MLB couldn't get the $$ for their mobile apps / accounts if they allowed that. When the game starts. the internet version of the radio station switches over to the CBS sports talk feed. Only way to hear the game is through MLB.com
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Of course there is ... and I listen to that local Detroit sports talk radio station almost all day via radio.com over the net on the laptop with the phone broadcasting the net signal for connection (I'm an over the road truck driver). But even though they broadcast the games on the radio, they are not permitted to over the internet. MLB couldn't get the $$ for their mobile apps / accounts if they allowed that. When the game starts. the internet version of the radio station switches over to the CBS sports talk feed. Only way to hear the game is through MLB.com
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Didn't consider that. Sorry.