Windows 8 on our Xooms? - Xoom General

From what I understand, it is built off of ARM processors and our tablets run off of them as well. The public beta was just released but need work for tablet based devices. Pretty much later this year. Would you guus love it or hate it?
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE81S0CD20120229?irpc=932
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I'd absolutely love it. The enterprise integration would simply remove the limitations android has in the corporate environment i use daily. I'd love to jump on this bandwagon!
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I'd love it, gimme an excuse to get a xoom.
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They still haven't released an arm version yet (unless you are looking somewhere I haven't seen.) x86 and 64 bit are all that seem to be available here:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/iso

rvbarton said:
I'd absolutely love it. The enterprise integration would simply remove the limitations android has in the corporate environment i use daily. I'd love to jump on this bandwagon!
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ARM builds of Windows 8 will , at least initially, be limited in enterprise: http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/29/2833193/windows-8-arm-enterprise-management
What do you find lacking in Android ICS for enterprise? A good run-down of everything it's added in support of enterprise can be found here.

wes_s said:
They still haven't released an arm version yet (unless you are looking somewhere I haven't seen.) x86 and 64 bit are all that seem to be available here:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/iso
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That's why I stated later this year. Dual booting ICS and Windows will give me the ultimate tablet.
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That's why I stated later this year. Dual booting ICS and Windows will give me the ultimate tablet.
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I also want this. But, unfortunately, it probably won't be possible on ARM hardware without some serious hacks: Windows 8 secure boot
The more likely scenario is getting an x86 build of Android dual-booting with a Windows 8 tablet/laptop.

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Windows 8 instead of Linux Webtop?

I've been browing the interwebs today, and I saw a little article about Windows 8. It reminded me that Windows 8 was going to be built from the up to support ARM devices. Given the power of ARM devices now (Tegra 2, OMAP dual-core, Apple A5, etc.) It wouldn't be unfeasible to see this in the future? How many people would like to use Windows 8 instead of webtop mode on the Atrix? I'm just rambling on, but it's a neat thought.
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I've been browing the interwebs today, and I saw a little article about Windows 8. It reminded me that Windows 8 was going to be built from the up to support ARM devices. Given the power of ARM devices now (Tegra 2, OMAP dual-core, Apple A5, etc.) It wouldn't be unfeasible to see this in the future? How many people would like to use Windows 8 instead of webtop mode on the Atrix? I'm just rambling on, but it's a neat thought.
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I think windows phones only support certain drivers for cpus and gpus so if they don't support it I think your SOL regardless of how powerful it is. Kinda how if you bought the best graphics card available but didn't have a driver you might as well have integrated graphics (probably worse than that)
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Double post sorry.
I'm not talking about Windows Phone. Windows Phone 7 is a completely different beast, and I know that mainly Snapdragon CPUs are supported at this time, and probably Adreno 200-205 GPUs.
I'm talking about Windows 8, the next version of windows, slated to come out in maybe 2012, probably 2013.
Here's a link I just searched, can't find the one I originally saw:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20026429-64.html?tag=mncol;9n
If by ARM devices they mean ANY ARM device, then we're in luck. Even if it only supports a certain ARM architecture, Cortex A9 will be fairly prevalent during the time Windows 8 would come out, so it's very likely Tegra 2 would be supported in the OS.
Ohhhh, ok gotcha sorry!
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+1 on being able to run any version of windows on my atrix lapdock! I've got the debian linux stuff running but I've always had a thing for windows (especially 7 now) and all the programs I run on it. I would surely discard my laptop given the ability to run windows on the lapdock!
I'd love to see a dual boot option once windows 8 does come out
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This would be cool too see, but by the time windows 8 comes out we will all have the next gen Atrix with the tegra3 quadcore or equivalent.
darebear802 said:
+1 on being able to run any version of windows on my atrix lapdock! I've got the debian linux stuff running but I've always had a thing for windows (especially 7 now) and all the programs I run on it. I would surely discard my laptop given the ability to run windows on the lapdock!
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Windows 8 (ARM-build) will not immediately mean you can run any windows programs on it. Programs will have to be compiled for ARM support, just like anything else. It's possible MS may try to streamline it by having some form of on-the-fly x86 emulation but that would be way too demanding for most mobile ARM implementations.
It is unlikely to have many apps or drivers. Open source operating systems are much quicker and easier to port.
Steveg, I think microsoft specifically started that they would not emulate x86 in arm, and that if you wanted a program to work, you had to make sure it compiled in arm.
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Doesn't the webtop work by running an x-server off the existing android kernel and using modified ubuntu components? (I may be entirely wrong on this.)
If so, I we can't use the android kernel to boot Windows and we can't run both kernels concurrently. The only way I see this working is actually booting into a Windows 8 kernel (given Microsoft or more likely nVidia provide drivers), but in that case we wouldn't be running Android and thus probably would be restricted in terms of phone functionality.
Anyone with more webtop experience have any ideas?
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c-genx said:
Doesn't the webtop work by running an x-server off the existing android kernel and using modified ubuntu components? (I may be entirely wrong on this.)
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This is correct, except that the Android and Webtop environments both use the same *Linux* kernel.
If you wanted to run Windows 8 on the webtop, you'd have to either run it across the board or run it in some sort of virtualized machine.
Impossible. Won't ever happen. You know how they say there's no such thing as a dumb question? This thread tests that theory. Sorry buddy!
(Why? There's a litany of reasons: no driver support, no access to source code, Windows 8 is very far from being finished, no driver support, I doubt any devs would be willing to take the project, no drivers, and did I mention that the hardware for the Atrix and webtop doesn't have any NT/Windows drivers? )
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Impossible. Won't ever happen. You know how they say there's no such thing as a dumb question? This thread tests that theory. Sorry buddy!
(Why? There's a litany of reasons: no driver support, no access to source code, Windows 8 is very far from being finished, no driver support, I doubt any devs would be willing to take the project, no drivers, and did I mention that the hardware for the Atrix and webtop doesn't have any NT/Windows drivers? )
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Today I will name you "Negative Nancy".
ChumleyEX said:
Today I will name you "Negative Nancy".
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Debbie downer has a point tho
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Debbie downer has a point tho
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true true
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Kal-el is rumored to be the ARM architecture that Microsoft showed off their Windows 8 demos on. nVidia has stated they intend to have ARM chips with Windows 8 support. It's entirely possible that they'll only release Windows 8 drivers for Tegra 3, but I see no reason why anyone can know for sure that nVidia won't provide Tegra 2 driver support. All this talk about it being impossible seems incredibly premature given nVidia's Windows 8 pledge.
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Okay, either you misunderstand me, our you are replying to someone else in this thread. Of course there its no source code yet. It's not finished. I was just throwing out an idea that if nvidia releases the drivers once windows for arm is released, then maybe instead of the linux webtop, we could use the windows 8 environment.
Edit: And the xda app doesn't quote replies.
As for windows 8 being run on I kal el,
yea, that's probably what will end up happening, but hey, we can dream, right?
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paravorheim said:
Okay, either you misunderstand me, our you are replying to someone else in this thread. Of course there its no source code yet. It's not finished. I was just throwing out an idea that if nvidia releases the drivers once windows for arm is released, then maybe instead of the linux webtop, we could use the windows 8 environment.
Edit: And the xda app doesn't quote replies.
As for windows 8 being run on I kal el,
yea, that's probably what will end up happening, but hey, we can dream, right?
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There's no source code yet? yet? it will never be! MS won't release its main product source code. It's just impossible, or totally impractical. I don't know if developers would be interested on this.

[Q] [Request] Windows 8 Developer Preview to Xoom

I have no idea how to do this, but I thought that maybe now with the Windows 8 Developer Preview being available for free download without activation, somebody might be able to work on a port of this to the Xoom.
Because Windows 8 is supposed to be built around the idea of running it on multi-touch screens, I think the Xoom would be the perfect candidate.
If anyone wants to try this and wants to put in the coding effort, I will help however I can.
They haven't released the Arm compatible version yet. There is only 32bit (x86), vanilla 64 bit, and a 64 dev version available for download so far.
Microsoft has stated that there is no ARM support in the dev preview, so were gonna have to wait till at least a beta comes out.
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Now are the arm images designed the same way as the android images are in terms of software hardware meshing?
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Now I know nothing about this beyond the fact that porting the ARM version over the x86 version would be significantly easier (and probably the only port that would work).
So am I right in assuming that if there is an ARM release some point soon, that it could, given the right amount of time, definitely be ported to run on our Devices?
Completely forgot about the ARM situation. I agree, hopefully they will release the ARM source in beta rather than waiting until the RCs or Finals.
If the ARM edition is released in .IMG format it may be possible with Fastboot. I would think that since LIV2 was able to boot into Debian in this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138661 it would be rather similar to do.
^^ You are right..... However the main problem will be trying to shoehorn a full windows OS into our limited system partition, one would assume that at least a gigabyte would be required for a full install......
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win 8 on a samsung tab http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxJQotodEVQ&feature=player_embedded
i would be very interested in this... moreover it would be awesome as dual boots.... i really enjoy honeycomb and android is awesome... but windows/ubuntu dual boot along side it will be the ultimate machine lol
hector_122 said:
win 8 on a samsung tab http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxJQotodEVQ&feature=player_embedded
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Be careful with that...... It's not a galaxy tab 10.1 as evidenced by the windows button at the bottom. I'm still going to say its gonna be really difficult to run win8 nativley on our limited internal storage, that's not to say we couldn't run it off an SD card though....... Witch could actually be the best of both worlds, dual booting between android and win8 sounds pretty cool.
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One thing people seem to forget is that it's closed source. You know, there's a reason that Windows Phone 7 isn't ported to Android-devices yet (same for WebOS). It's because it's closed source.
Vistaus said:
One thing people seem to forget is that it's closed source. You know, there's a reason that Windows Phone 7 isn't ported to Android-devices yet (same for WebOS). It's because it's closed source.
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Not to mention all of the drivers that we would have to develop or modify any "generic" drivers that are included in the windows 8 release to work on our xooms
but what I would like to say is that once we have a ARM version of win 8, I want ALL of our Devs working on this.
I don't think any dev will pick this up. I mean, look at the Ubuntu-thread. Ubuntu is open source and almost all other HC-tablets have an Ubuntu-port now, yet the Xoom still hasn't. So if they don't care for open source Ubuntu, then I don't think any dev will try closed source Win8.
eliteone said:
Be careful with that...... It's not a galaxy tab 10.1 as evidenced by the windows button at the bottom. I'm still going to say its gonna be really difficult to run win8 nativley on our limited internal storage, that's not to say we couldn't run it off an SD card though....... Witch could actually be the best of both worlds, dual booting between android and win8 sounds pretty cool.
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i understand, it says in the title of video samsung t700 tablet, i know it's not the galaxy tab
i blame the high price of the xoom. Nobody who WOULD be able to provide dev work probably can't afford to purchase one. Most other tablets are 100 dollars or more cheaper
kenfly said:
i blame the high price of the xoom. Nobody who WOULD be able to provide dev work probably can't afford to purchase one. Most other tablets are 100 dollars or more cheaper
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The Galaxy Tab already has an Ubuntu-port and more ROMS available. Still, the price is the same as the Xoom's price. Even the Acer Iconia has more ROMS and stuff and yes, it's cheaper, but worldwide more Xoom's have been sold then the Acer-ones. So that is quite strange.

[Q] [question]Windows 8 on Iconia?

Today at Build Microsoft announced that Windows 8 would launch with ARM support. Does this mean someone could potentially port it for the Iconia to be used in those times when a Window based software is needed but neither PC nor VLC is unavailable?
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brady.wassam said:
Today at Build Microsoft announced that Windows 8 would launch with ARM support. Does this mean someone could potentially port it for the Iconia to be used in those times when a Window based software is needed but neither PC nor VLC is unavailable?
Please save "why would you want to use Windows" comments. This is a mature developer website, send those comments to Engadget.
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This being a "mature developer website" has a search function and q&a section. Both would lead you to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259742
Anyway, only time will tell if win8 will be ported to the iconia (or any other android tablet). I haven't heard of wp7 being ported to an android phone, so I wouldn't bet on it. Still I can see the potential in it and would gladly try it (especially if it can be made as dual-boot).
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Downloaded and installed the "Developers Preview" of Win 8 last night. Remember this is a pre-beta release, and for certain it's in it's infancy relatively speaking. As of this moment in time, Android has a much smoother interface for touch. Win 8 still feels a bit sticky for lack of a better word. I installed it on my HP Touchsmart TM2 2150 US laptop (core i3 with 8Gb ram), so it's not exactly a slouch in terms of hardware. It's a total touch screen laptop that has a screen that folds down onto the keyboard to create a tablet. As of this moment, Win 7 has a much better touch screen experience, but I fully expect that to change as the builds mature.
There are very few apps that come with it (28 I believe), and no app store as of yet obviously.
I read last night that typical Windows apps will not run on the ARM version of Win 8, and that MS is going to do it's best to prevent side loading of apps on the ARM version to keep people purchasing apps, instead of loading them from a USB stick or SD card, but that is just rumor as of right now.
Long story short, you're not missing much yet.
tkolev said:
only time will tell if win8 will be ported to the iconia
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I appreciate this is in the A500 forum, but the Iconia also comes in a W500 variant which does indeed run Win8:
http://youtu.be/_CNQVk7nok0
twisticles said:
I appreciate this is in the A500 forum, but the Iconia also comes in a W500 variant which does indeed run Win8
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Some of us already have an a500. No need to bring up another piece of hardware. "Yeah your Honda s2000 can fit a Corvette engine, but why not get a Corvette instead"
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I don't think Microsoft will be releasing a beta for ARM chips and we will see Windows 8 run on ARM only during retail. After that XDA will not port Windows 8 simply because it would be considered illegal.
twisticles said:
I appreciate this is in the A500 forum, but the Iconia also comes in a W500 variant which does indeed run Win8:
http://youtu.be/_CNQVk7nok0
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The OP was asking about the ARM version of win8, so I seriously doubt that it is about the w500.
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I installed Windows 8 on my pc a few hours ago. It is very smooth! But my DVD burner doesn't work... Anyway, I would love to see it on the A500.
Here's a preview of Win 8 tablets. Acer's is running an AMD chip instead of a Tegra:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4811/windows-8-tablets-running-on-ti-qualcomm-nvidia-amd-intel-silicon
Windows 8
Windows 8 *might* just support ARM. Everyone on the net is talking about it but no one is really sure. But as for now if you want something similar to Windows 8 there's always WinCE7 :-D Cheers.
masands said:
I don't think Microsoft will be releasing a beta for ARM chips and we will see Windows 8 run on ARM only during retail. After that XDA will not port Windows 8 simply because it would be considered illegal.
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Look at HTC HD2, illegal?! I think no retail arm based version. No retail maybe dev can port. Maybe it is hard to port and that is the be ass.
emo-dudes said:
Windows 8 *might* just support ARM. Everyone on the net is talking about it but no one is really sure. But as for now if you want something similar to Windows 8 there's always WinCE7 :-D Cheers.
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There's no "might" about it. Microsoft confirmed ages ago that there WILL be an ARM version of Windows 8, and recently clarified that it will NOT run native x86 applications. It's conjectured that that .NET applications should run with either minimal changes, or straight off the bat.
It's also been demoed running on Tegra 3 hardware.
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There's no "might" about it. Microsoft confirmed ages ago that there WILL be an ARM version of Windows 8, and recently clarified that it will NOT run native x86 applications. It's conjectured that that .NET applications should run with either minimal changes, or straight off the bat.
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Pure .NET applications should run just fine as long as they're using the same .NET framework as W8 does, but Microsoft is encouraging devs to use HTML5 for anything simple enough. They're aiming for HTML5 support to be top-notch and W8 and to be all-encompassing.
And yes, I concur with FloatingFatMan: why do people even think an ARM W8 would be able to run x86 binaries? That's just plain stupid. ARM applications will run on ARM W8, x86 applications will run on x86 W8, that's that.
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Pure .NET applications should run just fine as long as they're using the same .NET framework as W8 does, but Microsoft is encouraging devs to use HTML5 for anything simple enough. They're aiming for HTML5 support to be top-notch and W8 and to be all-encompassing.
And yes, I concur with FloatingFatMan: why do people even think an ARM W8 would be able to run x86 binaries? That's just plain stupid. ARM applications will run on ARM W8, x86 applications will run on x86 W8, that's that.
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There was some rumour that Ms would my providing some transcoding layers as part of the ARM kernel, much like Apple did with the first x86 versions of OSX, but that would be horrendously slow and open the ARM platform to x86 malware.
Pure .NET apps SHOULD run fine, unless MS ship the compact framework instead of the full one. As for HTML5... URGH! (I'm a C# programmer, and after being shafted by MS over first WPF and now Silverlight, they can blow HTML5 out their asses! )
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There was some rumour that Ms would my providing some transcoding layers as part of the ARM kernel
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I know there was such a rumour, but anyone with half a braincell should've realized that it was just wishful thinking from people who don't know what they're talking about.
ARM devices are first and foremost mobile devices so an emulation layer would eat horribly on the battery. Not to mention that I am not aware of a single ARM processor sporting any kind of hardware virtualization features or transcoding mechanisms, so the performance would be really poor, too.
And if Microsoft did make such an emulation layer it would be Microsoft that would get all the blame for horribly low battery-life and poor performance because people wouldn't understand the underlying problem. Microsoft saves themselves a lot bad PR just by avoiding the whole thing altogether.
Pure .NET apps SHOULD run fine, unless MS ship the compact framework instead of the full one. As for HTML5... URGH! (I'm a C# programmer, and after being shafted by MS over first WPF and now Silverlight, they can blow HTML5 out their asses! )
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They're already churning lawyers at full speed from their arses, there's no more capacity for HTML5 there, too.

Official Windows-on-Tab discussion/speculation thread

This thread is not the focal point for all discussions relating to running Win7, Win8 or WinAnything on the Tab 10.1.
It has been formed by merging some of the largest and oldest Windows-on-Tab threads into one.
Windows 7 or Windows 8 on Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1?
Hello
Is it possible to install Windows 7 or Windows 8 on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1?
Thank you in advance.
Windows 7 doesn't work on the processor inside the tab. Windows 8 will but that version hasn't been released. Only the intel version has.
Would love Windows 8 on my tab.
Watch this space, I guess...
S galaxy 10.1 and win 8 possible?
I have heard that windows 8 is gonna support the intel chip in the samsung galaxy tablet 10.1. will it be possible to install this OS on this tablet someday..
Jesper.
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I have heard that windows 8 is gonna support the intel chip in the samsung galaxy tablet 10.1. will it be possible to install this OS on this tablet someday..
Jesper.
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For starters....it isn't an Intel chip in the 10.1. Its the NVIDIA Tegra 2.
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Nvidia is Intel....
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Hmm sorry but i am not sure if its intel! .. but the main thing is will it be possible to install windows 8. it would be fantastic.. i think its a ARM-based chipset but heard that it shuld be similar to the Tegra 2..
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Nvidia is Intel....
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Umm.... What?!
mullemulle86 said:
Nvidia is Intel....
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Errr... nVidia is most certainly NOT Intel!
No back to the thread - why on earth would you want to put Windows, aka bloatware, on an Android Tab?
steve664npc said:
Errr... nVidia is most certainly NOT Intel!
No back to the thread - why on earth would you want to put Windows, aka bloatware, on an Android Tab?
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And i ask why not??
Why the hell do someone want to put android on a iphone! and some one did!
I think it would be cool.. but i dont think you are not a windows fan.. lol!
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And i ask why not??
Why the hell do someone want to put android on a iphone! and some one did!
I think it would be cool.. but i dont think you are not a windows fan.. lol!
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I wouldnt want windows 8 on my tablet...but I can see why some people might be interested.
nvidia is not intel though. they may licence some technologies from each other, but they aren't one and the same. If they were. then why would intel be bothering with the medfield chips?
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Nvidia is Intel....
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Errr... nVidia is most certainly NOT Intel!
No back to the thread - why on earth would you want to put Windows, aka bloatware, on an Android Tab?
But you haven't answered the question? I asked why on earth would you want to put Windows 8 on an android tablet?
It seems silly to me that's all - but that's just my opinion
If dual boot was possible why would u not want to put win 8 or any other OS on it? I thought that was the point of being "open" why do so many touchpad users want android???
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Errr... nVidia is most certainly NOT Intel!
No back to the thread - why on earth would you want to put Windows, aka bloatware, on an Android Tab?
But you haven't answered the question? I asked why on earth would you want to put Windows 8 on an android tablet?
It seems silly to me that's all - but that's just my opinion
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Actually windows8 might surprise you. it is not bloatware as in previous windows
Nvidia uses arm architecture intel uses x86. Windows 8 is being designed to support lean hardware like ARM based SoC. It will supports 2 modes - traditional windows called desktop mode and touch based called metro. Its tile based metro UI is more elegant than android and shoul work with both x86 and arm devices. X86 will habe an edge as it will work woth traditional windows as well as Metro while arm can only work with metro assuming they fix all the headaches related to arm
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steve664npc said:
Errr... nVidia is most certainly NOT Intel!
No back to the thread - why on earth would you want to put Windows, aka bloatware, on an Android Tab?
But you haven't answered the question? I asked why on earth would you want to put Windows 8 on an android tablet?
It seems silly to me that's all - but that's just my opinion
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Why should i answer that question.. The only thing you are saying is that windows 8 is silly.. ????? And the Answer is that i dont think so.. lol. I just like to try everything to have a oppionon. Im not a FANBOY! that just try one thing only.
and you are calling it android tablet why? its a samsung galaxy tablet 10.1 and i like to call it windows tablet soon. hehe
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Why should i answer that question.. The only thing you are saying is that windows 8 is silly.. ????? And the Answer is that i dont think so.. lol. I just like to try everything to have a oppionon. Im not a FANBOY! that just try one thing only.
and you are calling it android tablet why? its a samsung galaxy tablet 10.1 and i like to call it windows tablet soon. hehe
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Me too! This is a Samsung tab that runs Android. Not an Android tab made by Samsung! If dual boot is possible I want it!
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Well sorry to blow out your dreams but Windows 8 ARM wont isnt coming 'til 2013 and it WONT be available as OEM or retail disc in any way.
It will be embedded into the slabs, just like Android.
But since it is NOT open source, you just will NOT be able to add it afterwords.
THERE WILL BE NO WINDOWS ON THE GTAB 10.1. EVER.
Dual-Booting a Windows 8 ARM tablet with Android might be possible, but not the opposite.
That being said; just wait to see the price of the Windows-based slabs; itll be a good 200$ over the comparable Android-based slab.
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Well sorry to blow out your dreams but Windows 8 ARM wont isnt coming 'til 2013 and it WONT be available as OEM or retail disc in any way.
It will be embedded into the slabs, just like Android.
But since it is NOT open source, you just will NOT be able to add it afterwords.
THERE WILL BE NO WINDOWS ON THE GTAB 10.1. EVER.
Dual-Booting a Windows 8 ARM tablet with Android might be possible, but not the opposite.
That being said; just wait to see the price of the Windows-based slabs; itll be a good 200$ over the comparable Android-based slab.
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Unfortunately, I agree with everything here, except the word "ever." I think there will be folks rocking the GT10 when Win8 gets leaked and built, but by then this will be a "legacy device." I'm really looking forward to having a windows 8 tablet, but it won't be the galaxy tab 10.1
yep microsoft UEFI Secure Boot technology might make it near impossible to dual boot win 8 and android ON devices built for windows8 - but i have faith in the dev community to port Win 8 onto android first devices- not that i would use it anyway
wewewi999 said:
Well sorry to blow out your dreams but Windows 8 ARM wont isnt coming 'til 2013 and it WONT be available as OEM or retail disc in any way.
It will be embedded into the slabs, just like Android.
But since it is NOT open source, you just will NOT be able to add it afterwords.
THERE WILL BE NO WINDOWS ON THE GTAB 10.1. EVER.
Dual-Booting a Windows 8 ARM tablet with Android might be possible, but not the opposite.
That being said; just wait to see the price of the Windows-based slabs; itll be a good 200$ over the comparable Android-based slab.
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Crap totally foregot about microsoft UEFI Secure Boot technology!
but when the windows 8 tablet are out..
i just buy a windows tablet ;-). And sell my lovely SG tab 1.10. but ICS is gonna be great to!

[QUESTION] Dual-Boot Android on a Windows RT tablet

This will probably be considered a noob question, and I apologize if this is question is in the wrong place, but is it within reason to dual-boot android on a windows RT tablet? The answer may determine my purchase of a windows tablet when they arrive, because I like both android and windows on tablets.
-Dave
Not possible. Windows RT uses Secure Boot, BitLocker and other security mechanisms so it will be extremely hard to break.
A little question to the OP, why?
TravisAntonio said:
A little question to the OP, why?
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Games and previously purchased apps would be my best guess. If there ends up being good android emulation (bluestacks) then I would think that there is no reason at all.
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TravisAntonio said:
A little question to the OP, why?
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Because Android was built from the ground up on mobile devices. Windows went the other way. Obviously Android does a lot of things better when mobile.
AdamOutler said:
Because Android was built from the ground up on mobile devices. Windows went the other way. Obviously Android does a lot of things better when mobile.
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jiffy1080 said:
Games and previously purchased apps would be my best guess. If there ends up being good android emulation (bluestacks) then I would think that there is no reason at all.
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The OP seems dead but thanks for your answers , maybe we will be able to boot-up Key Lime Pie when the times come.
Hmm ... Mine isnt a WinRT tablet as such but i own a ExoPC tablet and it runs both Windows and Android ...
I have tested Windows 8 Enterprise N & ICS 4.0.4 ....
U can find more info here ....
www.exocommunity.com
Regards
Currently you can run Android in a VM successfully on prior Windows editions, I have yet to run it virtually on Windows 8 BUT if you're actually buying an RT Tablet that runs on ARM, I don't suggest you purchase it hoping to run Android.
Good news? Intel is going Mobile and so is the ARM Processor and why is that good? Anyone can make it and not just anyone but Samsung is noted to be making a model FOR Android phones. Why does this matter? It means Google must be up to making Android for ARM and if that is true, I can almost bet that someone will be able to put it on a Windows RT Tablet eventually and that is the keyword, eventually.
So if you have to dual boot right this second? Buy a normal Windows 8 Tablet/Slate, not RT Tablet as they're not as powerful and "Desktop" will NOT be available but if you're not looking for power, stay with an Android Tablet or wait to see what Microsoft will be doing with the Slate.
Or Dual-Boot Android & WindowsRT on Android TABLET? :thumbup:
Time will make it happen.
Maybe run bluestacks in windows 8?
FC1032 said:
Maybe run bluestacks in windows 8?
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Like he said Lol. no need for Android, you have the best or Smoothest UI with BLUESTACK player that can run ALL ANDROID APPS so need for the OS itself. Enjoy!!!!!!!!
akbisw said:
Like he said Lol. no need for Android, you have the best or Smoothest UI with BLUESTACK player that can run ALL ANDROID APPS so need for the OS itself. Enjoy!!!!!!!!
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Read up the title dude, its - Windows RT(ARM)
Yeah, W8 will surely run Android apps via Bluestacks.(X86)
But its two OS on Single TABLET.
Remember ASUS's...tab
JB • XD/\PP
VR.gtmini said:
Read up the title dude, its - Windows RT(ARM)
Yeah, W8 will surely run Android apps via Bluestacks.(X86)
But its two OS on Single TABLET.
Remember ASUS's...tab
JB • XD/\PP
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Oh, I just thought the possibility if it was rather low (even if it was done, probably not going to be too good), so offered an easier alternative.
I mean there are even android x86 projects, just that they don't work that well and compatibility isn't the best over different hardware.
Only time will tell
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lseidman said:
Currently you can run Android in a VM successfully on prior Windows editions, I have yet to run it virtually on Windows 8 BUT if you're actually buying an RT Tablet that runs on ARM, I don't suggest you purchase it hoping to run Android.
Good news? Intel is going Mobile and so is the ARM Processor and why is that good? Anyone can make it and not just anyone but Samsung is noted to be making a model FOR Android phones. Why does this matter? It means Google must be up to making Android for ARM and if that is true, I can almost bet that someone will be able to put it on a Windows RT Tablet eventually and that is the keyword, eventually.
So if you have to dual boot right this second? Buy a normal Windows 8 Tablet/Slate, not RT Tablet as they're not as powerful and "Desktop" will NOT be available but if you're not looking for power, stay with an Android Tablet or wait to see what Microsoft will be doing with the Slate.
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Android has ALWAYS run on ARM chips. Not sure what you're talking about here...
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Android has ALWAYS run on ARM chips. Not sure what you're talking about here...
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correction. Android runs on MIPS, ARM and x86.
ARM is the most popular platform though.
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correction. Android runs on MIPS, ARM and x86.
ARM is the most popular platform though.
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but the assertion that Android has always run on ARM is not incorrect, the first device that Android ran on was ARM.

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