MWC Discussion thread - Xperia Arc General

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Xperia P & Xperia U !!
Cool devices..but not cooler than Xperia S !!
Xperia S is Awesomely Amazing !!

great show over all......shame we didnt see UXP NXT

I like the P and U, cool design overall, with bright colours.
The biggest news was that they're going to ship the ion internationally... I still want an S though.
It's a shame no Play2 was announced.
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Sony Xperia™ U
Sony Xperia™ U is another addition to the Xperia NXT series of Sony smartphones. Xperia U™ uses the new ST-Ericsson U8500 platform, which gives you a 1GHz dual core processor with SMP (Symmetric Multi-Processing) technology. This new smartphone is also customisable, thanks to interchangeable bottom caps to match your personal preference or mood. And its transparent element design changes colours to match the colours of the display. The Xperia™ U delivers a 3.5" Reality Display powered by the Mobile BRAVIA Engine, 5 MP camera with fast capture an d HD recording, xLoud™ and 3D surround Sony audio technology, and a lot more to love.
Sony Xperia U demo video
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Sony Xperia™ P
Sony Xperia™ P is the latest addition to the Xperia™ NXT series of next generation smartphones from Sony. Xperia™ P offers an ultra-bright viewing experience thanks to the introduction of WhiteMagic™ screen technology, and comes with a 4" Reality Display housed in aluminium, unibody design for a sleek look and feel. Xperia™ P also introduces the new ST-Ericsson U8500 platform, which provides a 1 GHz dual core processor with SMP technology for high-end performance. Plus, Xperia™ P gives you an 8MP capture camera, full 1080p HD recording & front camera, NFC, and a ton of other features.
Sony Xperia P demo video

Ion comes to Europe, thanks. Might stick to Sony now
Didn't watch they stream, did the say a release date?
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Flo95 said:
Ion comes to Europe, thanks. Might stick to Sony now
Didn't watch they stream, did the say a release date?
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They just said Q2.

Xperia P design is just waaaw.
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Xperia P design is just waaaw.
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I agree.....wonder the price
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Abou 450€
http://www.chip.de/news/Sony-Xperia-P-Mit-qHD-Display-SmartDock_54748236.html
(german blog ;-) )
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Man thats like 500$
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Pretty expensive for that. In german amazon the price for pre-ordering the xperia s is the same..449€. I would take the s becuase it is bigger and has more power
Edit: on amazon it is 488€...the cheapest offer of 449€ was from another company
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yeah if same price I keep arc I guess
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Im planning on upgrade to the xperia s cause its an amazing hot phone. Especially the glass part on the bottom is sexy as hell
But first i will stay on my arc s till the finall version of ics is released and see how this works
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Would you prefer plastic over aluminum ?
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Nope. Aluminium feels very good in hands I like this very much on my dads sensation and my girlfriends iphone ( she hates android :'( )
So if the xperia s would have an aluminium body it would be perfect
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Sony Arc Camera versus x10i versus iPhone 3GS

Hi, I have added some sample from each camera/phone during day light
http://honglong1976.wordpress.com/2011/08/02/quick-camera-test-sony-ericsson-arc-vs-x10i-vs-iphone-3gs/
and low light to see how the Exmor R sensor performs compared to the iPhone 3GS. A 2 year old phone.
http://honglong1976.wordpress.com/2011/08/10/quick-low-light-shot-test-sony-arc-versus-iphone-3gs/
Update** Night Time shot
http://honglong1976.wordpress.com/2011/08/14/sony-arc-versus-iphone-3gs-night-time-shot/
What do you think? Have you got any samples?
Arc wins (like expected )
I also own a X10 and Arc's Exmor R is way better at night or dark conditions like the X10's sensor.
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I thought that too, but the iPhone 3GS does quite well considering its 2 years old with 2 year old camera sensor tech.
I have a Sony Arc and I agree it takes decent photos but I feel they are much worse than they could be.
I found this review of 5 Smart Phone cameras and the Arc comes out worse.
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/13021_5_Top_Smartphone_Cameras_pitch.php
Mhm, anyway I'm happy with it. And saw other shots where the Arc rules over the SGS II over @ esato.com
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[Q] Do you guys think that SE will realease a new phone of SE Xperia X8?

[Q] Do you guys think that SE will realease a new verion of SE Xperia X8?
In my opinion I think that it will be awesome, the X8 is a huge success and I think that SE will continue with this phone and will release a new phone in x8 series at 2012.
I will be happy to see your comments about this topic/
They already have - Xperia Mini is a X8 body with enhanced hardware - multitouch screen, 1GHz CPU and more RAM. The same white outfit with the same screen size
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They already have - Xperia Mini is a X8 body with enhanced hardware - multitouch screen, 1GHz CPU and more RAM. The same white outfit with the same screen size
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Yeup, you can see the differences (improvements) down in italic+bold
Xperia Mini has practically the same size of X8
The outside looks like X8 but a bit more "recent"
The screen has the same size, same DPI, same resolution, but XMini has Multitouch
The processor is an ARMv7 with 1ghz (much better than the X8 one)
The ram is now 512MB, ~ 4x more than X8
5MP camera with Autofocus and LED Flash, a bit better than X8, and can record 720P videos, and some new features like Touch-To-Focus, Smile and Face detection
XMini has Android 2.3 with features like the Bravia Engine and i think it also has the XLoud
The price isn't has good as X8.
In portugal there is only the Xperia Mini PRO, wich more 100€ than the X10 Mini Pro. X10 Mini PRO is 150€ and Xperia Mini PRO is 250€
We don't have the Xperia Mini, but it will be around the 200€, wich is almost 2x the X8 price.
Price of the mini is really good!
For example:
X8 was 1000kn, (and still is), and new mini is 1500kn
1000kn is around 150€ (1€ = 7.3kn) so mini is 50€ more expensive than X8, but mini has some really great hardware comapared to X8
I think that se will continue with the "small" phones and I hope that they will be beautiful as the x8 and smart like the xmini
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yeah, I think that Xmini mini is an great phone but the small screen doesn't look good and uncomfortable.

[RUMOR] Sony to release Snapdragon 600 device in mid summer

We have received word of a new Sony Xperia C670X handset that is due to launch this summer. The information comes from a tipster who recently provided us with the Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean screenshot for the Xperia Z. Obviously, as with any rumour, treat all of the following with a pinch of salt.
In terms of specifications, the Sony C670X is expected to come with a slightly smaller display than the Xperia Z (C660X) at 4.8-inches but will still have a full HD resolution of 1080 x 1920. The C670X will be powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 (APQ8064T) chipset with 1.8GHz quad-core processor and Adreno 320 graphics. Other features include 2GB RAM, 32GB internal storage and a 13MP Exmor RS camera. We are told the phone is due to launch in the middle of 2013 with Android 4.2.
Along with all of this spec information, we were sent a render of the Sony C670X. We cannot tell from the picture if the C670X has a heavy glass influence like the Xperia Z or uses aluminium. Judging from the render, the ear speaker is similar in style to the Z/ZL. It looks like the top of the phone includes a front-facing camera , notification light, light sensor and proximity sensor.
Given that the expected release is still a number of months away, the design may end up changing prior to launch. This is perhaps why there are no app icons in the display area, the render only shows the latest Xperia wallpaper. Anyway, that’s all we have for now. As mentioned before, treat all of this firmly as a rumour.
Update: The image sent over is the same as used in the set up guide for the Xperia Z, despite it clearly not being a picture of the Xperia Z. So either this Sony render is a generic placeholder image used when setting up a new 2013 Sony Xperia handset or it is indeed an image of an upcoming handset that Sony has inadvertently used in the Xperia Z. [Thanks Kihoon!]
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[Q] Should I get the Xperia SP against the Moto G ?

Hi !
I have an Xperia S which is dead now :crying: and am looking for a new phone at the moment.
Originally, I was looking at the Moto G 16gb but its got a very bad camera and lack of upgradable storage. So, I'm wondering whether the SP have a good camera or not !
BTW, what about the 4.4 availability ?
Is there any stable 4.4 custom ROM for SP ?
Sp is a good phone. Has a great camera. And feels premium to hold. In fact when my friend got it, I liked it so much that I sold my Galaxy s4 and bought an xperia z. Hope this helps.
Plus Sony makes camera modules for a lot of other manufacturers like Apple iPhones. Samsung galaxy series. So u almost always get a. Good camera with a mid range and higher sony phones
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toksick said:
Sp is a good phone. Has a great camera. And feels premium to hold. In fact when my friend got it, I liked it so much that I sold my Galaxy s4 and bought an xperia z. Hope this helps.
Plus Sony makes camera modules for a lot of other manufacturers like Apple iPhones. Samsung galaxy series. So u almost always get a. Good camera with a mid range and higher sony phones
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Yeah but I read a review saying that the 8 mp camera of the Xperia SP is very poor compared to that of the Xperia L.
I work in a machine design company and I have to take a lot of photos and videos of our products for making quick demos and filing the records. That implies I need a decent camera phone.
The Xperia S and the Samsung Wave I had were good performers in that regard.
I would be checking out the Xperia SP and the Galaxy S4 Mini and may be some LG phones today at this new shopping mall that opened in my city. If I'm not happy, I'll be going for the Moto G.
Its gonna be a good night
For the price you'd be hard pushed to beat the Moto G -- at only £120 sim free for the 8GB model it's an absolute bargain, but it's also a solid performer and has already been updated to 4.4.
Honestly speaking, you'd have to be getting a very good deal to make buying an Xperia SP now a good choice as it's already a year old and even at best would only be officially supported for another six months, which means that bug fixes and other software updates will dry up soon.
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Yeah but I read a review saying that the 8 mp camera of the Xperia SP is very poor compared to that of the Xperia L.
I work in a machine design company and I have to take a lot of photos and videos of our products for making quick demos and filing the records. That implies I need a decent camera phone.
The Xperia S and the Samsung Wave I had were good performers in that regard.
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if you need a good camera, why not go for the Z1 or Z1 compact?
Xperia SP's camera is a huge disappointment, if that's a big thing for you, looks elsewhere. I read that GS4 mini's camera is pretty good (though, it's only 5mpx, if I recall). Where XSP shines is in it's processing power, since it has a decent processor and Adreno 320 GPU, which GS4 mini lacks. However, the lack of KitKat and 1GB of RAM make the Xperia SP hard to recommend.
You should also check Xperia ZR, where I live, it is just $10-$15dls more expensive than Xperia SP. xperia ZR is water-proof and has a 13MPX with a Quad-Core processor.
Xperia Sp camera its no so good. It you want a good camera phone buy a lumia 920/925 or a Galaxy s3 it you want android.
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x.marX said:
I would be checking out the Xperia SP and the Galaxy S4 Mini and may be some LG phones today at this new shopping mall that opened in my city. If I'm not happy, I'll be going for the Moto G.
Its gonna be a good night
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Didn't happen, they closed their shop early coz its the weekend
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For the price you'd be hard pushed to beat the Moto G -- at only £120 sim free for the 8GB model it's an absolute bargain, but it's also a solid performer and has already been updated to 4.4.
Honestly speaking, you'd have to be getting a very good deal to make buying an Xperia SP now a good choice as it's already a year old and even at best would only be officially supported for another six months, which means that bug fixes and other software updates will dry up soon.
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I'm from India and I'm getting the Xperia SP for ~300 USD (18000 INR) and yeah the Moto G 16 GB is available here for ~233 USD.
As for updates, I don't care as long as there is custom ROMs available.
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if you need a good camera, why not go for the Z1 or Z1 compact?
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Xperia SP's camera is a huge disappointment, if that's a big thing for you, looks elsewhere. I read that GS4 mini's camera is pretty good (though, it's only 5mpx, if I recall). Where XSP shines is in it's processing power, since it has a decent processor and Adreno 320 GPU, which GS4 mini lacks. However, the lack of KitKat and 1GB of RAM make the Xperia SP hard to recommend.
You should also check Xperia ZR, where I live, it is just $10-$15dls more expensive than Xperia SP. xperia ZR is water-proof and has a 13MPX with a Quad-Core processor.
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S4 Mini have a 8 mp camera as well.
Xperia ZR was actually my first target but its expensive here (~430 USD).
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Xperia Sp camera its no so good. It you want a good camera phone buy a lumia 920/925 or a Galaxy s3 it you want android.
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After dropping the ZR from my list, I thought about getting the S3 but I hear its battery backup is not that great and yeah, I hate the rounded design Samsung uses. I think their Bada phones look much much better.
BTW, there are some rumers about the Xperia M2 and Xperia G being priced really low to compete with the Moto G. I wonder how low Sony would go in pricing them !
Xperia SP's camera is so pathetic that I am sure Moto G's pics will be much better than SP's. The reason I bought SP is its processing power and awesome design.
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Xperia SP's camera is so pathetic that I am sure Moto G's pics will be much better than SP's. The reason I bought SP is its processing power and awesome design.
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Is it that bad ?
BTW, if mediatek guys were a bit more "open", the Huawei Ascend g700 would have been a great buy for me....great camera, lots of RAM, good IPS Lcd display etc. But,AFAIK, there is no custom ROMs or any other development for that phone because there is minimal support from mediatek for custom android development projects
You are concerned about SP camera but not about moto G camera? Haha. My friend has moto G, ant trust me, if you need (seems like that's your main priority) decent camera dont eve think about moto G. I have chosen SP over moto G and they both are about the same price.
Yet if you have doubts about SP camera, you can look into S3/S4mini (I considered those as options for me, but SP in overall seemed a better choice) or lumia 920 (I also considered this, but I need option too record my calls and WPs cant offer this yet L920 camera is amazing and I would assume price would be similar if its still available in sale).
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You are concerned about SP camera but not about moto G camera? Haha. My friend has moto G, ant trust me, if you need (seems like that's your main priority) decent camera dont eve think about moto G. I have chosen SP over moto G and they both are about the same price.
Yet if you have doubts about SP camera, you can look into S3/S4mini (I considered those as options for me, but SP in overall seemed a better choice) or lumia 920 (I also considered this, but I need option too record my calls and WPs cant offer this yet L920 camera is amazing and I would assume price would be similar if its still available in sale).
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I thought Moto G's camera was betther than SP's
The problem with Samsung is that their designs look so awful to me. Sony and HTC are much much better.
I'm an Opera Mini/Mobile/Desktop addict, can't use any other browser (lots of bookmarks and notes in the Opera in my account) and sadly, that rules WP devices like 920.
My options currently:
1. Blackberry Z10. If it has an android ROM, I would be going for this one but there isn't any AFAIK.
2. Upcoming Xperia G
3. Xperia SP
4. Xperia ZR
5. Samsung GS4 Mini
6. Samsung GS3
trust me
x.marX said:
I thought Moto G's camera was betther than SP's
The problem with Samsung is that their designs look so awful to me. Sony and HTC are much much better.
I'm an Opera Mini/Mobile/Desktop addict, can't use any other browser (lots of bookmarks and notes in the Opera in my account) and sadly, that rules WP devices like 920.
My options currently:
1. Blackberry Z10. If it has an android ROM, I would be going for this one but there isn't any AFAIK.
2. Upcoming Xperia G
3. Xperia SP
4. Xperia ZR
5. Samsung GS4 Mini
6. Samsung GS3
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Good to know that we are on the same track about Samesong. I hate them.
Z10 was an option for me too, but it was too little hardware for the the price for me, so I left it out yet it seems to work flawlessly in youtube videos. Also it is very sexy device and since 10.2.1 OS update it supports .apk files so basically its an android with Blackberry stuff. Why would you need a ROM for Z10? Just for sake of flashing something or there is serious reason?
Xperia G seems ok. Is it known when it will be available? Are you ready to wait (and possibly wait to find out if you would afford it when its released)?
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Is it that bad ?
BTW, if mediatek guys were a bit more "open", the Huawei Ascend g700 would have been a great buy for me....great camera, lots of RAM, good IPS Lcd display etc. But,AFAIK, there is no custom ROMs or any other development for that phone because there is minimal support from mediatek for custom android development projects
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If your deciding factor is based the camera, I suggest you check this out:
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=3&idPhone1=5831&idPhone2=5364
As you can see, the SP may have a bigger pixel count but the image is over processed and has a lot of chromatic noise. If you need to zoom into a picture to look at small text, it may not be an ideal phone for you.
However, as an overall package (build quality, performance, battery life) it's probably the best phone in its price range.
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Good to know that we are on the same track about Samesong. I hate them.
Z10 was an option for me too, but it was too little hardware for the the price for me, so I left it out yet it seems to work flawlessly in youtube videos. Also it is very sexy device and since 10.2.1 OS update it supports .apk files so basically its an android with Blackberry stuff. Why would you need a ROM for Z10? Just for sake of flashing something or there is serious reason?
Xperia G seems ok. Is it known when it will be available? Are you ready to wait (and possibly wait to find out if you would afford it when its released)?
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Samesong :laugh: apt name :good:
Yes, I love the launchers for the Android and the look and feel of different ROMS like MIUI, CM etc. Its so amazing. I don't think the BB10 would support that much of customization
I'm waiting for the Xperia G..hope that I can afford it.
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If your deciding factor is based the camera, I suggest you check this out:
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=3&idPhone1=5831&idPhone2=5364
As you can see, the SP may have a bigger pixel count but the image is over processed and has a lot of chromatic noise. If you need to zoom into a picture to look at small text, it may not be an ideal phone for you.
However, as an overall package (build quality, performance, battery life) it's probably the best phone in its price range.
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The Moto G and the SP look so awful, doesn't it ? Samsung S4 mini's pic look really nice and detailed even matching the iPhone 5.
@x.marX
Go get Moto X.
Period.
I don't know where you reside , but if you have got access to Moto Maker , get a customized Moto X. The camera and the processioning power is alot better than Xperia SP. But Xperia SP's design is far better than its competitors.
But since Xperia SP is getting old, I think Moto X would be a better choice regarding the future updates , camera and performance.
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@x.marX
Go get Moto X.
Period.
I don't know where you reside , but if you have got access to Moto Maker , get a customized Moto X. The camera and the processioning power is alot better than Xperia SP. But Xperia SP's design is far better than its competitors.
But since Xperia SP is getting old, I think Moto X would be a better choice regarding the future updates , camera and performance.
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We have Moto X here but the full fledged Moto Maker won't be ready any time soon.
I'm not a big fan of Moto X btw.
1. "Rounded design" - not my cup of tea
2. Memory not expandable - I have a lot of FLAC audio files
3. Non-removable battery
Only advantage of SP over G is the memocard and LTE.
If you can live without them get MotoG/16GB and you'll be OK.
I changed from Moto G to SP, but regret it...
x.marX said:
We have Moto X here but the full fledged Moto Maker won't be ready any time soon.
I'm not a big fan of Moto X btw.
1. "Rounded design" - not my cup of tea
2. Memory not expandable - I have a lot of FLAC audio files
3. Non-removable battery
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If possible try to save enough money for Xperia ZR or LG Optimus G. Since both the product are getting pretty old, you may have huge discounts on them.

Sony Xperia Z4s Camera And Interface

This year, few smartphones have been as talked about – or subject to as many leaks – as the Sony Xperia Z4, and along those lines we present to you the latest batch of photos to trickle onto the web via in2mobile and NWE. Click through on the links to see the slideshows in full.
What’s interesting is that the phone in these shots shows the model number E6553, the same number that appeared in leaked benchmark tests last week. Either it’s the same phone or someone’s very handy with a photo editor.
Another image shows the camera around the back of the supposed Xperia Z4. It looks a lot like the snapper fixed to last year’s Xperia Z3 – based on earlier rumours we are expecting the megapixel rating to be the same but with an upgrade for the internal sensor.
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for those who wanna upgrade their smartphone
Xperia Z4 is one of the best choice.
elegant body, stunning display, smooth UI (like wht we had experience with Z2, Z3), awesome performance & best camera
+ Stereo speaker it means all u want
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Sony Xperia Z4 is better than LG G4. Really it has good feature, smoothly use, nice camera and so on .
I think sony Xperia is very reliable and save to use,it is better than other mobile brands.
The Z3 camera is fantastic. I like Z3 more than Z4. I used Z4 but still Z3 is the best for me:good:
I like this !! jeje
Why you buy sony Xperia
Why you buy Xperia ,,, and there is Samsung Galaxy S6
Samsung hardware fails after a year or two.. Sony works for more than samsung...
Geeks Empire said:
for those who wanna upgrade their smartphone
Xperia Z4 is one of the best choice.
elegant body, stunning display, smooth UI (like wht we had experience with Z2, Z3), awesome performance & best camera
+ Stereo speaker it means all u want
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Disagree with my usage so far, camera is okay, same as Z3, no optical stabilisation and is now falling behind both the S6 and G4 for quality imo. Also have installed pocketcasts and there is noticeable lag while watching video podcasts, first phone I have had that has done this.
Also I am disappointed that Sony have once again resorted to applying a shatter resistant screen, this does not have oleophobic coating, gets easily smudged which really shows up in the sunlight.
Personally I think Sony have launched the Z3+ (Z4) just to get a phone out there rather than taking time to actually upgrade the phone properly, maybe this is due to all the unrest in the Sony mobile camp!
The question is, does the screen have the oleophobic coats on the screen itself, under the pre-installed screen protector..?
UPDATE: Found out, The answer is.. YES!
http://www.androidcentral.com/you-c...ble-factory-fitted-xperia-z3-screen-protector

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