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What programs are safe to remove?

Hey guys,
I permarooted my phone yesterday, and got rid of amazon mp3 via titanium back up. There's so much more I want to get rid of, but I don't want to delete something essential to the ROM resulting in force closures forever.
I wouldn't mind so much if I was using some sort of recovery with the complete ROM zip in my SD card.
Back to the point, what can we safely delete?

just back up the apps before you uninstall them, then if you have any issues you can just put it back

I found out the hard way, titanium does not backup system apps.

thebitjockey said:
I found out the hard way, titanium does not backup system apps.
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I thought TB did in fact backup system apps. Maybe when I did it with TB it wasn't really backing them up, but it gave me the option to do it so I did. Figured I would back up the system apps to the ROM in case it was somewhat difficult to un-root if needed.

TB backs up only system data, not the apps themselves.

floepie said:
TB backs up only system data, not the apps themselves.
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But it can restore the apps from the backed up data, or am I totally not getting what the batch file for the system app is for?

I deleted everything I didn't want.. No issues
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Scoop24 said:
I deleted everything I didn't want.. No issues
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Same here no issues.

mlockman said:
But it can restore the apps from the backed up data, or am I totally not getting what the batch file for the system app is for?
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For me, it backed them up and I did see the compressed files. Upon further examination, the compressed files were empty.
What someone else said is true, it does backup the data but it does not backup the app yet it will delete the apps APK files from the /system/app directory. Basically, no way to restore them.

freeze an app first... make sure you get no FC or problems...
then delete it

mlockman said:
But it can restore the apps from the backed up data, or am I totally not getting what the batch file for the system app is for?
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TB can backup only system app data, that is data from the apps built into the ROM. It does however back up both user apps themselves (elective apps you download) in addition to their data.

Scoop24 said:
I deleted everything I didn't want.. No issues
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21productionz said:
Same here no issues.
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I think he just wants to know which apps everyone removed to avoid any issues a head a time.... like a list of what you removed if your not having any issues whats so ever...
I havent got a OTA yet so I cant remove anything either way but if your still waiting to get confirmation on whats def safe to remove Ill let you know when I do it

^^ Great, thanks. There are so many threads and questions about bloatware, methods of removing said bloatware, and which ones are safe to remove.
A running list would be great, and I suggest that additional posts be more specific to assist the more timid amongst us. Thanks.

Could someone be kindly enough to explain what is this permarooted thing for? I did a search and there's guide on how to do permaroot only. and yes I r a nub, my first android. :X

can someone compile a list of safe things to remove?

Please post questions in Q&A section.

I took out a few things yesterday and found out two important things:
1) Even after removing Facebook for Mytouch you cannot add a Facebook sync account using the market Facebook app.
2) Titanium will not restore apps like Peep or Facebook for Mytouch. It lists it as backed up, but there is no option to restore. ('restore all apps and system data' yielded the same results)
There was an alternate FB app out there for a while that fixed the sync issue, but for myself I just reverted to my nandroid backup.
However, aside from the issue above, I experienced no issues on the phone after removing:
Facebook for Mytouch
Peep
News sync
News
Asphalt, RB, etc
I think I removed a few others but don't want to guess at names and spread misinformation.
May I suggest someone compile a list and create a stickie topic for it?
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^^ Yeah, well Titanium cannot backup system apps, and therefore, cannot restore them! It only backs up and restores their data.

@Hinouchi
Rooting is the process of, basically, gaining full access to make changes to your phone.
Permarooting is a term used specifically relating to the G2 and Mytouch, which were "designed" to revert changes such as rooting after the phone is rebooted. Permaroot is a process by which you bypass this manufacturer "safety feature" and obtain *perma*nent *root* access.
I suspect you may find a better explanation on Wikipedia, but that's the gist of it.
EDIT: No worries on the content of your question, we're all "n00bs" at something
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@floepie
So it would seem! Though I don't recall ever seeing that in what documentation there is for the app.
I'll look again and email the dev if I can't find anything.
There are certainly other ways to backup/restore those apps, but the capability to do so in Ti would be some kind of awesomesauce
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Removing bloatware

I have tried to remove some of the bloatware (blockbuster,trialware,vzw junk) with no luck .I have tried both deleting the apk or renaming to .old in root explorer and as soon as I reboot it comes back. I know I have root because I have ran setcpu and other apps requiring root. Is thete anything I need to do differently? I am coming from the original Droid.
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I would not recommend removing the bloatware entirely, but instead buy Titanium Backup pro. With that, you can freeze the apps so they can't be seen or used, but if and when we get an update, you won't have to worry about trying to find the right files.

Bloat
I have rooted using Z4 and removed bloatware using Titanium with no problems.

My purpose in removing the bloatware would be to save battery, memory, space and not to have stuff running in the background I do not want or need. I don't really want to flash a ROM. Is there a way yet to remove the VZ stuff after rooting?

I would use Titanium Backup and freeze those programs. If you remove them completely, you won't be able to install OTA updates, like the looming Froyo one.

Thanked. Now freezing means they are still there and take up space but not memory or battery life? They are not running?

y0himba said:
Thanked. Now freezing means they are still there and take up space but not memory or battery life? They are not running?
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Yes, that's what it is. Freezing them in Titanium backup essentially removes them, but leaves the files in place. You won't be able to access anything that is frozen outside of Titanium Backup until it is thawed. When you get a notification about an update, just thaw all the frozen apps, and update away.

I do a similar thing. I change the file name to name.apk.bak so it doesn't appear. But leaves it if I want to restore.

xmguy said:
I do a similar thing. I change the file name to name.apk.bak so it doesn't appear. But leaves it if I want to restore.
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I read elsewhere that if you just rename the files to .apk.bak they reappear on a reboot.
Also, I am looking for a way to remove the Bing garbage, hopefully a batch process of some sort to replace it all with Google.
The D17 ROM looks nice but it also appears development was just stopped while it was still beta? I cannot find a good explanation of how to get the ROM on there. I keep seeing "Odin" but cannot find the latest version download link and there are no tutorials on how to use it.

If you don't know how to use odin you shouldn't bother with flashing 0_o one mistake in there and you can easily be done.......
Also, if by DL17 CLEAN ROM, then you can rest assured it works fine.. There are no bugs..
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Aye, you are correct, I have no idea what to do with Odin. That's pretty much the reason I didn't want to flash a ROM. With a WinMo phone flashing a ROM is easy...I am completely n00b with Android.
The only reason I would flash it is the whole "CLEAN" thing. I would prefer to achieve that effect without the need to flash. Rooting my new phone was nerve wracking enough, but I got it done due to these forums. :thumbsup:

You could always use Launcher Pro and just hide the apps.
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Lol, I got your back man.... If you ever want to flash a rom or need help with odin, just pm or something...
When it comes to odin, as long as your connection is guaranteed, and you use **pda** instead of **phone** you should be golden... Even if something does go wrong, it is really hard to brick samsung phones xP
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Deleting HTC Apps (problem I am having)

With any rom that I have flashed, I have removed a few of the HTC Widgets and Programs.
The problem that I am noticing is that when I delete the apps using root explorer it lowers the amount of space free on my phone.
Example - I flashed the MikShift rom - and removed Footprints, Peep, Stocks, News, FM Radio, and other various HTC and Sprint Apps, but in doing so - it took away storage space from my phone. Any idea as to why, or how I can remove these apps without it taking away from the storage space on my phone.
It took me from probably 330MB free to 240MB free. I came from a Samsung Epic and never had this problem with removing any of these apps.

Not sure on the storage issue, I'm not running any bloated roms, though.
Try removing them with titanium backup, see if it will recreate the issue.
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i notice this too

smoothtaste said:
Not sure on the storage issue, I'm not running any bloated roms, though.
Try removing them with titanium backup, see if it will recreate the issue.
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I will try that - I was using root explorer. if i delete them from the ROM before i flash then it is fine. Using the MikSense rom - on first boot i have 368 free in SD and Phone Storage.
on a side note, it seems that every rom i have tried i have MMS issues with. the only one i didnt was preludedrews, I think.
When you say remove with titanium backup - do you mean the recovery hack to delete?

randomrobbi said:
I will try that - I was using root explorer. if i delete them from the ROM before i flash then it is fine. Using the MikSense rom - on first boot i have 368 free in SD and Phone Storage.
on a side note, it seems that every rom i have tried i have MMS issues with. the only one i didnt was preludedrews, I think.
When you say remove with titanium backup - do you mean the recovery hack to delete?
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if you have root you dont need to use the hack. he means just use TB to uninstall it

RyteSyde said:
if you have root you dont need to use the hack. he means just use TB to uninstall it
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thanks - now i dont have any 3G with the mikshift rom - going to RUU back to stock - re-root - and re-flash it. I just want a speedy decent stock rom without all the BS and working data and MMS for the moment.
I am really hoping that a good MiUi Port or CM 6/7 gets here soon enough. I got tired of waiting for either of those on the epic

randomrobbi said:
thanks - now i dont have any 3G with the mikshift rom - going to RUU back to stock - re-root - and re-flash it. I just want a speedy decent stock rom without all the BS and working data and MMS for the moment.
I am really hoping that a good MiUi Port or CM 6/7 gets here soon enough. I got tired of waiting for either of those on the epic
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ive been running the stock rom, rooted, and OC'd to 1.2 and all the bloat removed and have no problems with anything. the stock rom runs fine. just wish someone would finish porting the desire rom. that is the sweetest rom on here so far

Edit after I wiped cache and dalvik to flash the 1.8 back I gained 11mb .......Ok so I deleted sprint tv tel Nav quick office and some other apps I can't remember I didn't lose any internal memory I used TB but I only gained 2mb internal storage Lmao not much....I'm wondering if the shift will ever have a memory boost from firerat like the G1/hero
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http://forum.sdx-developers.com/evo-shift-development/ti-x-shift/30/
Ive had good luck with this rom

androiddummy said:
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/evo-shift-development/ti-x-shift/30/
Ive had good luck with this rom
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cool - i will give it a shot.
I ended up RUU'ing back to stock, re-rooting, re-flashed clockwork, and have used Titanium Backup to uninstall everything I didnt want. I also used the Install Updates into ROM function of titanium and now I have about 360 MB free on my phone, with only Titanium and ES File Manager Installed.

Moved to general.

App syncing nightmare

i am being flashing different Roms all the time to try out various Roms, but everytime i flash the rom by full wipe, iam having nightmare in restoring all the apps. i have around 200 apps and i also have the titanium backup, but as everyone know i have to press install 200 times to restore all the apps. it is making me crazy.
i want to know how u guys addressing this, is there any way out or have to live with this nightmare

Latest market or android version sync your market apps when you launch market the first time. At least it did that for me stock kl7. But DON'T go to your downloads open market and press back leave the apps to get installed from notification bar if you press my downloads after a few you get a error saying you don't have space on your phone and if it stops once forget to continue it later they disappear so if you fail with it. code factory reset it and try again it is faster. Done 4 or 5 till i succeed. But works on market apps only rest manually.
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Buy titanium backup pro. Installs everything automatically. I think astro file manager has a backup feature for free.
GALAXY NOTE

intruda119 said:
Buy titanium backup pro. Installs everything automatically. I think astro file manager has a backup feature for free.
GALAXY NOTE
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A backup. You said you made a reset for a reason. If not then titanium is ok
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Braxos said:
A backup. You said you made a reset for a reason. If not then titanium is ok
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What?
sunshine76 said:
i am being flashing different Roms all the time to try out various Roms, but everytime i flash the rom by full wipe, iam having nightmare in restoring all the apps. i have around 200 apps and i also have the titanium backup, but as everyone know i have to press install 200 times to restore all the apps. it is making me crazy.
i want to know how u guys addressing this, is there any way out or have to live with this nightmare
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Are you talking about apps from your myapp list in the market? Or apps from titanium backup? If you have free version, you will have to install apps manually. If you have titanium pro, it will install all 200 apps automatically with no user input.

Using Titanium Backup to convert the pre-loaded games

I converted the pre-loaded games on the Play (Asphalt, Bruce Lee, Star Battalion, Tetris, Crash, and Madden) from system apk's to user apk's, and then I could move them to the sd card instead of keeping them in internal memory. it freed up a lot of space and I was glad of it. However, after rebooting the phone, the games read as simply not being installed, and the only way I can get them back is from restoring the backups and keeping them as system apk's. Any thoughts on why this is? Anyhow, it freed up a great amount of space in the internal memory and thought I'd share. I actually didn't know Titanium Backup could convert system to user apk until I stumbled on the ability by accident.

Convert them to user apps, back-up the user-app version, restart, restore the user-app backup. Don't know why it removes them upon reboot, but doing this will fix it

Is there any benefit to doing this versus the setInstallLocation trick to get them on the sd card?

Spectre51 said:
Is there any benefit to doing this versus the setInstallLocation trick to get them on the sd card?
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The point is that they're already installed to /system/app/, so no that won't do anything for pre-loaded games

jacklebott said:
Convert them to user apps, back-up the user-app version, restart, restore the user-app backup. Don't know why it removes them upon reboot, but doing this will fix it
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I appreciate the tip. Worked like a charm.

I tried this with two apps and I let Titanium Back Run for over an hour. This last time I actually updated the app just to see what what happen. The same thing happened that did when I just rebooted: the app I was trying to "convert" get's deleted.
1. Can anyone help me with this?
2. Does anyone have the Asphalt 5 apk backed up for the Play?
Thanks in advance!!

Gertman check your pm.
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I would like to report that I had to use the SD Maid to clear away the rest of Asphalt 5 that was left lingering and now I do have about 20mb more free!!! Also thanks Spectre51!!!
Now I did try this with Google Maps and I had the same problem. When I went to re-install it from the Market it was giving me some issues with not being able to save it to the default location. So after undoing the ADB scrip thing for forcing apps to install to the SD card it installed. So later on just for ****s and giggles I thought I would try and move it to the SD card with Titanium backup. Somehow it worked and even the app still works!!! Amazing!!!
Now I did try this with Flash AND I had to move it back to the phone so that Dolphin could access it. i find this one more perplexing because on my rooted Droid 1 and never had this problem. On another note, the Flash app is now small than it used to be??

Changing system apps to user apps, deletes system apps
I have the same problem of changing system apps to user apps, titbkup says it's processing the app, but doesn't. Eventually I have to reboot(after, at least one time waiting over an hour for it to do that!). Big, or small system app, it doesn't make any difference. Changing user apps to system apps, it runs fine. The backup of the system app, upon restore, is still a system app, or doesn't restore. Titbkup
ran fine, and did the converting fine, when I first installed it(with the PRO key) about 7 months ago, now it's hanging whenever I try to change system to user apps! It's has done this since at least the last 7 updates.

Man just use your root explorer, move the .apk from system/app to your memory card, once you've done that, restart your phone and install it from memory card? Its as easy as that... Lemme post a a screenshot of my Sims, Crash, and Bruce Lee...
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reggjoo said:
I have the same problem of changing system apps to user apps, titbkup says it's processing the app, but doesn't. Eventually I have to reboot(after, at least one time waiting over an hour for it to do that!). Big, or small system app, it doesn't make any difference. Changing user apps to system apps, it runs fine. The backup of the system app, upon restore, is still a system app, or doesn't restore. Titbkup
ran fine, and did the converting fine, when I first installed it(with the PRO key) about 7 months ago, now it's hanging whenever I try to change system to user apps! It's has done this since at least the last 7 updates.
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I have this same problem. Some apps worked fine, most caused this.

Yeah, i always use TB as well, it's great app..
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You guys have to realize that some system apps need to be system apps to work. If it hangs for that long, it's simply because it can't be run as a user app