Tmobile doesn't really have 4g service! - Networking

Ok so why call something 4g service when it's really just 3g service. That's lying to customers! We Won't see 4g until 2013 it seems! Kinda makes me want to leave Tmobile!
read this and find out!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57383699-94/t-mobiles-comeback-plan-is-it-enough/
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Another challenge will be in the confusion brought on by its own definition of 4G. Since 2010, T-Mobile renamed its HSPA+ network--widely considered a 3G technology--its 4G network. With the widespread availability of HSPA+, T-Mobile was able to boast of having the nation's largest 4G network.
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But yet they call it 4g and throttle you when you go over the really 3g service! Stupid!
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Semantics... It is what it is - doesn't matter what you call it.
If you're going to leave a good provider that has good rates for something as petty as that, you've got bigger issues than T-Mobile calling their service 4g...
That's just my opinion though... No offense intended.

Read this too!
http://m.gizmodo.com/5680755/the-dirty-secret-of-todays-4g-its-not-4g
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Look, I be postin in a troll thread!

darkside79 said:
Read this too!
http://m.gizmodo.com/5680755/the-dirty-secret-of-todays-4g-its-not-4g
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your in seattle too man arnt you getting the 10+ mbps speeds?

darkside79 said:
Ok so why call something 4g service when it's really just 3g service. That's lying to customers! We Won't see 4g until 2013 it seems! Kinda makes me want to leave Tmobile!
read this and find out!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57383699-94/t-mobiles-comeback-plan-is-it-enough/
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not sure if you know or don't know, but even LTE is not considered 4G
true 4G is still far away from any service
all the service providers are advertising 4G but they are all fake, as non of them really meets the 4G specifications

First of all know your facts . Now the person who said late isn't really 4g is right. But on another note in certain areas T-Mobile is just as fast as Verizon and sprint . I get speeds of 15 - 20 mbps. Its all about area that you are in.
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AllGamer said:
not sure if you know or don't know, but even LTE is not considered 4G
true 4G is still far away from any service
all the service providers are advertising 4G but they are all fake, as non of them really meets the 4G specifications
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Yea I know. Its sad!
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Second of all want is this in this thread . I have to agree with everyone who complains of people posting new took just because they can just clutter . Search before you post .
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True 4g is atleast 100mbps and guess what nobody hits that. Its all bull but yes lte is def faster then hspa+. Only the uneducated think that these bs services are real 4g and sadly not to many people know really just how fast 4g is supposed to be if they did these companys would have a problem

im from phoenix and i get "4G" almost anywhere in the valley, not so much when indoors , but it is kinda fast ...

Ill takes my fake 4G battery life ove LTE!
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lol.... really?

The whole "4g" is just a marketing gimmick, but i don't really care as long as im getting 11500kbps download most of the time, sometime i even get 15000kbps.

It was a big deal before about this basically any company with new technology is consider 4g now. Hspa+ can be 4g if it reached 100 mbs. The network must reach over 100mbs not any phone. Lte isn't consider 4g either but lte-A is considered 4g.

i dont want to be mean or anything but this is really really old news and probably has been posted a million and a half times. no carrier in the world has true LTE Advanced which is set to be "real" 4G. All the current "4G" monikers are just stopgaps until they can implement LTE Advanced or a 4G compliant WiMAX.
I wouldnt quit just because tmo is advertising 4G when it really does not, because you'll be stuck looking for a 4G compliant carrier with nothing to switch to.

diamantericos said:
First of all know your facts . Now the person who said late isn't really 4g is right. But on another note in certain areas T-Mobile is just as fast as Verizon and sprint . I get speeds of 15 - 20 mbps. Its all about area that you are in.
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Tmobile is just as fast as sprint and verizon? You know our data is faster right? We only lose to att LTE but they're limited and expensive so ef that
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darkside79 said:
Ok so why call something 4g service when it's really just 3g service. That's lying to customers! We Won't see 4g until 2013 it seems! Kinda makes me want to leave Tmobile!
read this and find out!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57383699-94/t-mobiles-comeback-plan-is-it-enough/
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Yea I know. Its sad!
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OK, So you spew outrage that T-Mo calls their service 4G and says it makes you want to leave t-mo, yet you agree with another post when he says all thw carriers do it??? Where did you plan on moving your service too? I'd like to know what real 4G carrier you are going to use.

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Sprint Lightsquared LTE deal

http://www.bgr.com/2011/06/02/sprint-close-to-20-billion-network-deal-with-lightsquared/
Great news
Wowee
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morrreee GGGGGGGGGGG's now now please !!!
Except Lightsquared is still having issues getting their LTE to work out and NOT effect GPS sat.'s.........
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/02/lightsquareds-lte-breaks-gps-in-new-mexico-trial-angers-john-d/
Great news
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Except Lightsquared is still having issues getting their LTE to work out and NOT effect GPS sat.'s.........
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/02/lightsquareds-lte-breaks-gps-in-new-mexico-trial-angers-john-d/
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Dumb ****
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Dumb ****
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Its been a pretty known fact that they have had issues with interference from the get go but keep saying they know how to fix it. Funny that still now they haven't gotten it worked out.
yeah those GPS are a real issue
I were Sprint I wouldn't sign a deal until they can prove those are fixed
They will fix it. They have plenty of spectrum to do trial and error.
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Sprint gets almost 2 billion a year because of this deal...interference or not Sprint wins.
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Its been a pretty known fact that they have had issues with interference from the get go but keep saying they know how to fix it. Funny that still now they haven't gotten it worked out.
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If this deal goes through they will use Sprints spectrum which will not affect GPS.
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I just want 4G readily available from Sprint in every major city! Now, right now!
IIRC That doesn't do a damn thing for us EVO owners. Im pretty sure We cant run on LTE. I could be wrong.
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IIRC That doesn't do a damn thing for us EVO owners. Im pretty sure We cant run on LTE. I could be wrong.
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Your not wrong. Evo does not have a LTE radio to recieve LTE signal. But, by the time LTE is up all us phone nerds will be drooling over the new Evo 5d with quad core proccessor, 7.1 surround sound, adreno 2,000 and LTE/Wimax radio's. ( A boy can dream right ;p)
Anything 2 get rid of craptastic wimax
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Anything 2 get rid of craptastic wimax
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This, Wimax is quite the joke in terms of building penetration and connection. When I look on the Sprint map I have 4g service available, I can't even connect to the **** outside let alone inside. Hell it's so bad I don't even care if custom roms/ports don't have 4g because I can't use it.
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Jfree3000 said:
This, Wimax is quite the joke in terms of building penetration and connection. When I look on the Sprint map I have 4g service available, I can't even connect to the **** outside let alone inside. Hell it's so bad I don't even care if custom roms/ports don't have 4g because I can't use it.
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If LTE was on the same frequency you would say LTE sucks.
It's not the technology its the FREQUENCY!!!!
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novanosis85 said:
If LTE was on the same frequency you would say LTE sucks.
It's not the technology its the FREQUENCY!!!!
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DING DING DING!!!!
I pray for the day when people will finally realize this!
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If LTE was on the same frequency you would say LTE sucks.
It's not the technology its the FREQUENCY!!!!
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You are correct sir, left that out but I know its the frequency. Hence it sucks (for me at least).
Jfree3000 said:
This, Wimax is quite the joke in terms of building penetration and connection. When I look on the Sprint map I have 4g service available, I can't even connect to the **** outside let alone inside. Hell it's so bad I don't even care if custom roms/ports don't have 4g because I can't use it.
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I know exactly how u feel, check out my rant here
I still do use a 4G rom but I hardly every use 4G but it CAN be nice when it actually works which is hardly ever unless I'm on top of a mountain 50ft away from the wimax tower

MetroPCS has a 3G Network???

There are rumors of people in miami getting 3G on their phones. Can someone possibly confirm this? I called Metro directly and found out that there are at least 5 other cities running on 3G.
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I was reading another board where folks in Orlando were getting 3g Also read someone in Tampa getting it I upgraded the .prl to 3022 but no luck so far
Moved..............
I also swapped to prl 3022 but nothing happened. I'm so pissed that we don't have 3G in thia area of Florida (Cape Coral, Fort Myers, Naples), you know, I just got the crazy idea of making an online protest against MetroPCS. We should gather a bunch of people from different areas of Florida that do not have 3G coverage and plan on doing something like that. Maybe when we have 1000 people protesting for the same thing and threatening to leave MetroPCS then they'll do something about it. Again just a thought.
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ZangetsuSX said:
I also swapped to prl 3022 but nothing happened. I'm so pissed that we don't have 3G in thia area of Florida (Cape Coral, Fort Myers, Naples), you know, I just got the crazy idea of making an online protest against MetroPCS. We should gather a bunch of people from different areas of Florida that do not have 3G coverage and plan on doing something like that. Maybe when we have 1000 people protesting for the same thing and threatening to leave MetroPCS then they'll do something about it. Again just a thought.
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What people fail to realize is if 3g is everywhere your bill will go up and you will have a data cap to cover overages and you will end up with a at&t or Verizon situation the reason why metro is so cheap is because there isn't a 3g if you really want speed upgrade to a 4g phone otherwise be patient until they figure out how much data is being used in major cities and if it's worth the extra costs
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You're right I hadn't seen it from that point of view.
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ZangetsuSX said:
You're right I hadn't seen it from that point of view.
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Don't trip I wanna smack metro cause the guy who sold me the phone said I had 3g
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I'd be pissed if they told me the same thing and later on it turned out that I didn't. I wouldn't smack metro but the guy instead. LOL.
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ZangetsuSX said:
I'd be pissed if they told me the same thing and later on it turned out that I didn't. I wouldn't smack metro but the guy instead. LOL.
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He's the face of metro so I wanna smack metro in the face lol, I wish someone would dev for this phone I wouldn't mind bricking my phone to get some nice roms out for it I wish I knew how but I don't have the time to learn so I'm at the mercy of the super developers
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How is a smartphone even usable on 1xRTT?
synaesthetic said:
How is a smartphone even usable on 1xRTT?
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We hook it up to wifi
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BoiPhresh said:
We hook it up to wifi
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Then it becomes a BEAST!!!! LOL!!!
Not to be mean, but that's what happens when you pay 20$ bucks a month
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Not to be mean, but that's what happens when you pay 20$ bucks a month
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Lol, funny how your probably unable to pay your current bill and are researching one of metros better android devices... don't be smug can't it won't end well... not to be mean
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It will get better. Now MetroPCS has the LG Esteem 4g it is on their site now so soon they should have to upgrade the system to handle usage. I pay 50 a month with metropcs and i still like it better then the contract companies. Also i read today that sprint is no longer doing one year contracts more folks to metro? never know
Metro is a headache to deal with if you have billing issues, but they're cheap and there's no commitment. That's always nice, but it cuts both ways. They can jack up your price whenever they want.
Contracts aren't solely beneficial to the provider. Sometimes they actually help the customer--I'm on contract for 2 years, for two lines, 1000 shared minutes, unlimited SMS/nights/weekends and 2GB data per device for $100.
It's cheaper than what we were paying for two individual Even More Plus plans (though we did lose 3GB of data). And T-Mobile can't change the price without breaking the contract.
My girlfriend has metro and we live in a city with 3g service. It's super spotty. Even in their most well covered areas, she usually still only gets 1x.

Throttled Speed

Is there a solution to data speed throttling? My speed is 1/4 what it's supposed to be. Someone please help!
Yeah, leave tmo and go to sprint, where though shall never get throttled
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sgtmedeiros said:
Yeah, leave tmo and go to sprint, where though shall never get throttled
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sgtmedeiros said:
Yeah, leave tmo and go to sprint, where though shall never get throttled
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+10. Why would you say unlimited 4g? Then it turns into hspa+ then 2gb of "unlimited data" then slow me down to 1G.? Wtf? I went to simple mobile after that.....then I went to sprint - where customer service is a plus. If your phone gets messed up you can go to a repair center to get it fixed n replaced. AND YOU GET REAL UNLIMITED 4G........DATA THROTTLE DOESNT EXIST IN SPRINT......#IMJustSaying
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jaestreetss said:
+10. Why would you say unlimited 4g? Then it turns into hspa+ then 2gb of "unlimited data" then slow me down to 1G.? Wtf? I went to simple mobile after that.....then I went to sprint - where customer service is a plus. If your phone gets messed up you can go to a repair center to get it fixed n replaced. AND YOU GET REAL UNLIMITED 4G........DATA THROTTLE DOESNT EXIST IN SPRINT......#IMJustSaying
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As a sprint customer, yeah it is unlimited and not throttled but it is also the slowest.
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Rem3Dy said:
As a sprint customer, yeah it is unlimited and not throttled but it is also the slowest.
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+100000 it keeps getting worse and worse and I don't even have 4g in my area
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Sprint doesn't throttle their 3g data speed because it come pre-throttled already
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onasri15 said:
Is there a solution to data speed throttling? My speed is 1/4 what it's supposed to be. Someone please help!
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1/4 of your normal speed? your normal speed must be very sloooow.. when i get throttled, my speed gets reduced to 56kbps. my unthrottled speed averages from 5-7mbps. i solved getting throttled by changing my plan to 10gb data before being throttled. whats your data plan? maybe you need to raise it. btw, im with tmobile.
I went thru the same thing as a Sprint customer but I called n complained & they did some type of refreshing n viola I was gOod
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Please elaborate. I'm luxky if I get 200kbps down. 3g gata is so slow that it is pretty much useless.
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newspeak said:
Sprint doesn't throttle their 3g data speed because it come pre-throttled already
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Very tru lol.. here in Miami their 4G reaches to about 3 mbps ... but I believe they aren't unlimited anymore ... the best 4G Ull get is there home town ... that's where Ull see speeds reach 10- 13 mbps
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Lol at people that say Sprint is the slowest. No problems here at all with their speeds
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Guys, you've made the mistake of assuming he's in the US...
OP: you've made the mistake of not giving us nearly enough info to point you in the right direction...
What model Nexus S?
Which carrier?
Which radio/baseband version? (Settings, About phone)
Sprint is fast depending on location at my place its going at 50KB/S then ramps up to 250KB/s two blocks down at the cinema
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DirtyShroomz said:
Lol at people that say Sprint is the slowest. No problems here at all with their speeds
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I didn't say I had a problem with the speed. I simply stated the fact that Sprint is the slowest of the big four.
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I have no issues here with sprint speed. I live in Tampa and I run it against my bosses bionic. I pull almost the same speed as lte and on par with my wifes att 3g LG optimus 3d
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speedy2slow said:
I have no issues here with sprint speed. I live in Tampa and I run it against my bosses bionic. I pull almost the same speed as lte and on par with my wifes att 3g LG optimus 3d
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Lol please provide evidence of you pulling "almost" the same speed as Verizon lte...
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Rem3Dy said:
Lol please provide evidence of you pulling "almost" the same speed as Verizon lte...
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LTE means nothing if coverage is low. Matter of fact, Wimax is theoretically proven to be faster than LTE. Don't know why people think LTE is so great.
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Just try the different radios/baseband versions! I noticed a big difference between them! You can see the upload/download speed with "network speed" or sth!
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LTE means nothing if coverage is low. Matter of fact, Wimax is theoretically proven to be faster than LTE. Don't know why people think LTE is so great.
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Theoretically? When has 'theoretical speeds" actually reflected REAL WORLD conditions?
#justsayin'
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Extremely tired of slow data

Don't get me wrong, sprints unlimited data is awesome, but when I have to struggle loading simple 4 minute videos online, I get annoyed. Even with full bars the service is garbage. Sprint obviously doesn't "owe" me anything, but some tower upgrades would sure benefit their business.
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Sprints philosophy goes like this, "Use your wifi for faster speeds and don't expect **** from our network" They call themselves the now network, but its more like the now or later network.
How much money are they yanking a year? Atleast 1500 out of my pocket alone every year. Greedy Aholes.
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Are you on 3G or 4G?
You can see their 3G plans in your are here: https://network.sprint.com/
I feel your pain... Im ready pissed that i pay an extra $30 a month for 4g which we dont have here. And 3g speed are like .7 dl and .5 up..im in heaven when ever i can get conneted to wifi..lol .. Im through with sprint if they dont hurry up with lte in VA..
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txtmikhail said:
I feel your pain... Im ready pissed that i pay an extra $30 a month for 4g which we dont have here. And 3g speed are like .7 dl and .5 up..im in heaven when ever i can get conneted to wifi..lol .. Im through with sprint if they dont hurry up with lte in VA..
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10$/mo is NOT for 4g. I don't know why people still say this.
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I feel your pain... Im ready pissed that i pay an extra $30 a month for 4g which we dont have here. And 3g speed are like .7 dl and .5 up..im in heaven when ever i can get conneted to wifi..lol .. Im through with sprint if they dont hurry up with lte in VA..
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I agree I'm in Northern Va and it's annoying how in areas like chantilly I almost get 2Mbps but asst home I range from .5 to 1Mbps. I just want a stay 1Mbps wherever I go nothing more and nothing less and I'll be satisfied! Thank God I'm in the DMV area because LTE will definitely come here. And yesterday by Potomac Mills it was so bad that my texts weren't going out! It said they didn't go through but people would receive them late! And it said my signal was -65 dBm!
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txtmikhail said:
I feel your pain... Im ready pissed that i pay an extra $30 a month for 4g which we dont have here. And 3g speed are like .7 dl and .5 up..im in heaven when ever i can get conneted to wifi..lol .. Im through with sprint if they dont hurry up with lte in VA..
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Richmond, VA has 4G.
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The $10 is for "premium data". When I tried to discuss the reason for it with a rep around the time I got my phone she said it was 'because of the amount of data I would be expected to use.' That I was paying for the 'Ease and likelyhood of uploading photos and videos through the phone network.' And 'because of the availability of 4G speeds in select areas.'
Every phone I've ever had has been a smart phone.
I use no more data on average with my Epic than I did with my last two Windows Mobile phones before it. So, I am paying more to do things I (more or less) could already do.
At home I have an AIRAVE. Though I live ~1mile from the nearest tower I typically have no signal or drop calls like crazy without it. I also use WIFI for my internet when at home. Outside of my neighborhood I have no complaints though.
4G is not available within 3hours drive of me. I have used it for a total of 10min since I got my epic at launch. That was at an airport while on a layover.
I cant complain much about my speed... my girlfriend is stuck at 1x because 3G flat out isnt available to her anywhere in my city. But I do pay $30/month more.
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Don't get me wrong, sprints unlimited data is awesome, but when I have to struggle loading simple 4 minute videos online, I get annoyed. Even with full bars the service is garbage. Sprint obviously doesn't "owe" me anything, but some tower upgrades would sure benefit their business.
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Your 3g must suck cause I can watch 6 minutes videos as if I were on wifi on two bars in my house that just so happens to be in the hill country of texas
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I pul at minimum 1mb of speed at my lowest bars..... 3mb if I'm full bars ill have to show that and this is coming from a server miles away from me.
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Biggoron said:
Your 3g must suck cause I can watch 6 minutes videos as if I were on wifi on two bars in my house that just so happens to be in the hill country of texas
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I suppose it does suck cause I started this topic complaining about it. Haha. Maybe its all the trees surrounding me in MN to blame.
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It shows no bars but had one during it. Upload blows but who cares it should.
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I get between 900kbps and 2mbps nearly all day in my apartment with one signal bar. The tower is six miles away. I live in bfe iowa. And the geography isnt as flat as youd think.
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algorhythm said:
10$/mo is NOT for 4g. I don't know why people still say this.
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it is for 4g. because the evo 4g was the first phone to have the $10 data fee. they change it to a premium data fee when people in non 4g areas started complaining about the fee.
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it is for 4g. because the evo 4g was the first phone to have the $10 data fee. they change it to a premium data fee when people in non 4g areas started complaining about the fee.
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Was. Get it right, it is not a 4g fee.
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pjames said:
it is for 4g. because the evo 4g was the first phone to have the $10 data fee. they change it to a premium data fee when people in non 4g areas started complaining about the fee.
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Premium Data (required for this device) - $10.00
We require this add-on for phones made to deliver a superior wireless experience including Web, email, video and social networking.
Additional details:
The Premium Data add-on charge is required for smartphones.
Sprint smartphones currently are: Android, BlackBerry, Palm, Instinct and Windows Mobile phones.
On average, smartphone users use 10 times more data than customers with basic or feature phones. With this charge, Smartphone customers will continue to receive unlimited data and experience Sprint’s simplified services and rates, being able to take advantage of a rich data experience while on the Sprint network.
If you would like an unlimited data plan, for a lower rate, and avoid this charge, you may want to check out some of our feature phones which do not require the $10 Premium Data add-on charge.
Yeah, funny my Palm Pre didn't require that fee and they didn't start the fee until 4G phones came and then only applied to 4G phones until the complaints of no 4G came in...I'm just sayin'.....lol.
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surge89 said:
I agree I'm in Northern Va and it's annoying how in areas like chantilly I almost get 2Mbps but asst home I range from .5 to 1Mbps. I just want a stay 1Mbps wherever I go nothing more and nothing less and I'll be satisfied! Thank God I'm in the DMV area because LTE will definitely come here. And yesterday by Potomac Mills it was so bad that my texts weren't going out! It said they didn't go through but people would receive them late! And it said my signal was -65 dBm!
I've never had an issue by the mall but near Quantico it goes out a little but that's the FBI. So close to 4G but so far away....
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kennyglass123 said:
Yeah, funny my Palm Pre didn't require that fee and they didn't start the fee until 4G phones came and then only applied to 4G phones until the complaints of no 4G came in...I'm just sayin'.....lol.
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We all know it WAS a 4G fee, but it is not one any longer.
I know...just adding how Ludicrous Sprint was with their back-peddling. Was commenting on the wording of the contract not you specifically.
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Evo 4g lte camera

I Looked at 2:35 on this video and immediately was sold on the EVO 4G LTE the image quality at low lights is pretty mind blowing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkFdfUpsUCk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Link not showing up for me. Is it just me?
NVM. after i posted, link became visible.
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Oh dude i know. This is probably the best camera HTC has ever done, and actually the best one on the market if you include shutter speed and all tht crazy jazz.
This is the only phone ive been so impatient with waiting for it to come out
yeah sprint would have $200 of my money coming may 7th guaranteed... actually feeling a little nostalgic about being in the exact same 4g situation I was when i got my original EVO... maybe its a bit of Stockholm syndrome
trukenx said:
yeah sprint would have $200 of my money coming may 7th guaranteed... actually feeling a little nostalgic about being in the exact same 4g situation I was when i got my original EVO... maybe its a bit of Stockholm syndrome
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If im not mistaken, I think you can still connect to "regular" 4g if LTE isnt available
Or do you just not 4g where you live in general?
Pretty certain there is no wimax (regular 4g) on the new Evo. I've read the 8960 chip can't/doesnt support it. So I don't believe that's an option.
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coffeehandle said:
If im not mistaken, I think you can still connect to "regular" 4g if LTE isnt available
Or do you just not 4g where you live in general?
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Sprints "regular" 4g is wimax. I'm pretty certain this phone will not support wimax.

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