Was at a store for cellphone, and looked at the display models. In parallel, there were iPad 2, Samsung, Asus, and A200, the A200 is the thickest one, for some reason, might be the curve on the edge on others. A200 is the lest attractive one to my understand.
ctiger said:
Was at a store for cellphone, and looked at the display models. In parallel, there were iPad 2, Samsung, Asus, and A200, the A200 is the thickest one, for some reason, might be the curve on the edge on others. A200 is the lest attractive one to my understand.
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So why is the A500 not sexy? It is not even mentioned in your post.
You did mention the A200.
Besides, women are sexy and tablets are not suppose to be.
Also this is a wasted thread.
Shame on you for starting it.
ctiger said:
Was at a store for cellphone, and looked at the display models. In parallel, there were iPad 2, Samsung, Asus, and A200, the A200 is the thickest one, for some reason, might be the curve on the edge on others. A200 is the lest attractive one to my understand.
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Cool story bro.
That is great that you feel the A200 is the least attractive tablet to you. I don't really understand how you making a broad statement on your opinion is supposed to bring about conversation, unless you are expecting other people to
a) verbally attack your opinion
b) make their own broad statements of why they disagree with you
c) agree with you
If you don't like the A500/A200, then fine. There are tons of other tablets out there that you can buy. Coming and starting a thread where you say "the tablet you guys own is ugly" isn't productive.
REALLY?!?!
all i can say is LMAO
Hummm SEXY IS SEXY
My A5OO is IN A SEXY Red case.. And i keep in my cute pink purse.. so i would totally disagree .. MY A500 IS Sexy rather yours is or not.. SEXY IS in the eye of the Beholder...
With that all said. NICE Thread
Well, I expected to get flamed, I like my A500, just after physically played with all other devices, I have a feeling of disappointment, because obviously, several other devices are more slim, and light. I'm a tech oriented guy, so I will take functionality than good looking and speed than weight. That's the reason why I chose A500 in the first place, but thinking about the feeling, I realize that Acer is lacking on style design. It's like a car, get a car that can get you to everywhere, without burn too much gas, is one thing, get a nice car that you love, is another. When looking at a ford explorer, I like it's new design, very attractive. In the fierce competition of tablet market, something like what acer made, really lacks some spirit... They must find some ways to impress people...
ctiger said:
Well, I expected to get flamed, I like my A500, just after physically played with all other devices, I have a feeling of disappointment, because obviously, several other devices are more slim, and light. I'm a tech oriented guy, so I will take functionality than good looking and speed than weight. That's the reason why I chose A500 in the first place, but thinking about the feeling, I realize that Acer is lacking on style design. It's like a car, get a car that can get you to everywhere, without burn too much gas, is one thing, get a nice car that you love, is another. When looking at a ford explorer, I like it's new design, very attractive. In the fierce competition of tablet market, something like what acer made, really lacks some spirit... They must find some ways to impress people...
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huhhhh
The fact you have all those "techie" bits on your tab is why its so large and isn't sexy (as you say).... If it bothers you that much trade in your funtionality for a sexy but, and lets be honest, locked down piece of eye-candy that makes you feel good when you look at it but jealous when you see what you traded it for...
It reminds me of the OLD one piece "pretty" mac's that looked pretty but didn't even come with a cd drive when the other windows machines came with practically everything...
Looks aren't everything....
Besides, I prefer my tab to the others you've mentioned.... Tried them all and thought they sucked... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
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Sexy tablets eh?
Just make sure it is legal in your country before committing...
Such a stupid thread.
Okay, now that I got that out I have a few things to say; Acer is indeed not known for making terribly beautiful devices, they are not known for their graphical designers nor for their ability to engineer devices that make you go "Wow!" when you look at them. But then again, is that really such a problem that you must make such a thread here?
Part of the reason why A500 is so big and heavy is because Acer went with a full-size USB port on it; had they skipped that the device could have been slimmed down. Another reason is that Acer is still rather new to the market and they're just trying their hands at this, so on their part it made sense to use a common base for both the A500 and the A501. Alas, there is much extra room inside A500 because of this. Then again, that can be seen as another positive thing instead of a negative thing as that extra room can be used for all sorts of things. I have a few ideas that I could use that room for, but alas, I cannot actually implement those ideas because my hands are terribly shaky.
Now, if you bought the A500 because of its features then stop whining and grow a pair. If you instead bought it because you didn't fully think the whole thing through and you want something prettier instead then go and do something about it.
ctiger said:
I like my A500, just after physically played with all other devices, I have a feeling of disappointment, because obviously, several other devices are more slim, and light.
I'm a tech oriented guy, so I will take functionality than good looking and speed than weight. That's the reason why I chose A500 in the first place, but thinking about the feeling, I realize that Acer is lacking on style design.
It's like a car, get a car that can get you to everywhere, without burn too much gas, is one thing, get a nice car that you love, is another. When looking at a ford explorer, I like it's new design, very attractive. In the fierce competition of tablet market, something like what acer made, really lacks some spirit... They must find some ways to impress people...
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If that was your OP, I feel like it could have been a way for you to open discussion around the topic of industrial design in the tblet world.
While I understand your feeling that sleek product design equates to a better product, this is a work machine for me so I prefer a full featured set in my device. I don't have any complaints with the form factor. I recently gave my wife my iPad when I got the A500 and I am enjoying using it much more. I find it easier to hold, and the 16:9 screen works better for all the video stuff I do.
Throw a sexy cover around it. That equals the playing field a little
I've seen some really fantastic "skins", one of which was just posted in the accessories forum.
There are people who buy solely on looks. Some people buy for functionality. And then, there are the people who buy cause everybody else is buying it (and they really don't know what to do with it, except play angry birds).
Moscow Desire said:
And then, there are the people who buy cause everybody else is buying it (and they really don't know what to do with it, except play angry birds).
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Or plants vs zombies, or stupid zombies......
ctiger said:
Was at a store for cellphone, and looked at the display models. In parallel, there were iPad 2, Samsung, Asus, and A200, the A200 is the thickest one, for some reason, might be the curve on the edge on others. A200 is the lest attractive one to my understand.
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Cool story brah
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Throw a sexy cover around it. That equals the playing field a little
I've seen some really fantastic "skins", one of which was just posted in the accessories forum.
There are people who buy solely on looks. Some people buy for functionality. And then, there are the people who buy cause everybody else is buying it (and they really don't know what to do with it, except play angry birds).
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Mine has a cover from decalgirl.com on it. they are awesome i have the redish pink floral one.The matching background makes it awesome to look at .I WANT One that has big words all over it.. I AM NOT A IPAD .. I AM NOT A I-PAD.. GRRRR
Some in society think every tablet is i-pad.. people need to get out more.
Love the Thread.
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I have skins from Skinit.com ( www.skinit.com ), made a custom one:
An excellent service for making all your portable devices sexier
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ohhh My I WOULD get alot of attention at doctors office with that.. Giggles .. But quite sexy no doubt
erica_renee said:
ohhh My I WOULD get alot of attention at doctors office with that.. Giggles .. But quite sexy no doubt
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Alas, I'm pretty sure you're getting lots of attention already just by being yourself.
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Alas, I'm pretty sure you're getting lots of attention already just by being yourself.
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Hehehe ..
Yes but for some reason i attract older men. When i tell them im Lesbian and not interested. Well then they are even more Persistent.
Love the look on the doctors face when they ask me if i might be preg. when i remind them the true reason why i cant Be. But its a awesome experience just being asked..
guessing this is what you mean Nobody knows.nobody can tell... As i leave this alone with ENOUGH WELL TOO MUCH SAID.. Thank you very much...... Aprin 9th our 25th anniversary..
Back on topic.. The a 500 can be very sexy just depending on who hands its in... Giggles.
Come on people how do you not know things like this. Stupid things are stupid. Hope you at least know that.
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Well i have had the hd2 for 6 months which before that i had an iphone 3gs. I'm sorry, even though you can pretty do anything you like with the hd2 windows mobile and techinically it is a superior phone and not restricted to the apples way of life, the iphone is a smoother phone, ok, the screen is smaller but the keyboard is brilliant, you would of thought a bigger screen on the HD2 the keyboard would be better!! and now iphone has 225,000 apps vs a few thousand on WM.
I have used my hd2 withcooked roms, messed around with radios, emulators..etc..but again the iphone seems to have the edge...
Thank xda developers for all you have given...i bid fair well. You never know one day i may be back if Windows 7 is decent no doubt you will be casting your eyes over that and customising it to the extreme if Microsoft will allow it that is!
first to reply in a flame thread! teehee
well i'm just saying tanks to chiefs etc for all they have given..and saying goodbye..and the reasoning behind it..
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well i'm just saying tanks to chiefs etc for all they have given..and saying goodbye..and the reasoning behind it..
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Not to be rude, but I don't think you have posted enough for anyone to actually miss you. This just smacks of another iPhone Vs. HTC flame thread.
Hihi ! Enjoy Your crap ............. another poster less, 0,1% easier now to follow up all threads per day .......... Tx for leaving
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Not to be rude, but I don't think you have posted enough for anyone to actually miss you. This just smacks of another iPhone Vs. HTC flame thread.
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yes that was rude....
Flamebaiting much?
Narcissistic much?
You think too highly of yourself to even consider the notion that any of us gives a flying hoot whether you're here or not. If you like things that work out of the box, go ahead and get Apple, they are certainly good for devices like that.
But do not make ****ty-threads trying to sound sincere and genuine when all you're doing is trying to start another "I'm sorry folks, Apple is just better than WM regardless of what you tell me" thread before you leave.
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Well i have had the hd2 for 6 months which before that i had an iphone 3gs. I'm sorry, even though you can pretty do anything you like with the hd2 windows mobile and techinically it is a superior phone and not restricted to the apples way of life, the iphone is a smoother phone, ok, the screen is smaller but the keyboard is brilliant, you would of thought a bigger screen on the HD2 the keyboard would be better!! and now iphone has 225,000 apps vs a few thousand on WM.
I have used my hd2 withcooked roms, messed around with radios, emulators..etc..but again the iphone seems to have the edge...
Thank xda developers for all you have given...i bid fair well. You never know one day i may be back if Windows 7 is decent no doubt you will be casting your eyes over that and customising it to the extreme if Microsoft will allow it that is!
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oh well, never mind....bye.
lol... if HTC can't get things right with the HD2 what are we supposed to do pray that one day they will? yeah right ?? with the hd3 coming along do you think they give a toss? not likely...552 pages all with mostly issues on the xda hd2 section really gives a thumbs up to the phone doesn't it?? come on guys...jesus...it say much does it? like alot of people in here it looks like a beutiful phone, the features are outstanding but the faults overcloud the phone...and thats why we have to move on...
flame this flame that...who cares..
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lol... if HTC can't get things right with the HD2 what are we supposed to do pray that one day they will? yeah right ?? with the hd3 coming along do you think they give a toss? not likely...552 pages all with mostly issues on the xda hd2 section really gives a thumbs up to the phone doesn't it?? come on guys...jesus...it say much does it? like alot of people in here it looks like a beutiful phone, the features are outstanding but the faults overcloud the phone...and thats why we have to move on...
flame this flame that...who cares..
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Thank you for proving my point, troll.
Now feel free to leave and never come back. I'm pretty certain at this point, people would prefer that you did not come back as well because you're wasting up XDA's bandwidth and HDD space with your posts.
Can I have your phone?
Shut the door on your way out won't you?
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lol... if HTC can't get things right with the HD2 what are we supposed to do pray that one day they will? yeah right ?? with the hd3 coming along do you think they give a toss? not likely...552 pages all with mostly issues on the xda hd2 section really gives a thumbs up to the phone doesn't it?? come on guys...jesus...it say much does it? like alot of people in here it looks like a beutiful phone, the features are outstanding but the faults overcloud the phone...and thats why we have to move on...
flame this flame that...who cares..
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Can I have your phone?
Shut the door on your way out won't you?
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+1. Don't let the door hit you in your fat a** on your way out, Theguru1.
InB4 lock.
lol again...you all proving my point...
Why on earth do some of you lot need to be rude?
He has his reasons. Whether it was to troll or not, dont be so rude! It really isnt a good impression of yourselves and also makes XDA look bad.
To OP.
Dont worry mate, it was nice that you thought you would give WinMo a try. But u wernt that impressed. WinMo isnt for all, some will love it some wont. It does take time to get used to it.Its good to know that u appriciated the hard work from devs and cookes........ Good luck with Apple and who knows, maybe one day you might make another move back to WinMo.
Flame away guys..........
(@ me that is)
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lol again...you all proving my point...
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Sorry, just couldn't resist.
All phones have their flaws, even your precious iPhone. Different phones are better for different people. For the "power user" the HD2 is a very excellent phone, even with its flaws. Personally, I've tried the iPhone OS, and I can't stand the limitations. It's a personal thing, so don't force your personal opinions down our throats and expect us to pat you on the back for it.
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Sorry, just couldn't resist.
All phones have their flaws, even your precious iPhone. Different phones are better for different people. For the "power user" the HD2 is a very excellent phone, even with its flaws. Personally, I've tried the iPhone OS, and I can't stand the limitations. It's a personal thing, so don't force your personal opinions down our throats and expect us to pat you on the back for it.
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Hmmm.....seems like the "sheep factor" still exists!
Νο reason to blame u bs u sell ur hd2 n buy an iphone4, life change so why we stay stable
Do what u want, if u c whats going on on the planet at the moment(wars, unemployment, economical crisis etc) phones are just so litle... to make us worry..
have fun whatever u do..
just dont understand why every day one new thread pops up , like new iphone hd2 killer or whatever..
have fun though !
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Hmmm.....seems like the "sheep factor" still exists!
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I form my own opinions based on personal experience and research.
@ Tygrtail.........ok.........
I have an HD2 incoming, but the OP's got a point, whether it needs to be posted every time a user decides to 'leave' the HD2, or not. Say what you will about the iPhone and its somewhat limited feature-set compared to a heavily-customized WM device, the features that are there work and the work well. I cringe at the thought of fighting with the HD2 each day, but it's something I'm willing to put up with. But you cannot deny the large number of issues the device faces, issues that shouldn't exist in a high-end smartphone:
SMS lag
Audio lag
Freezing, rebooting
Touchscreen inaccuracies, high sensitivity, jitter
No 720p support
Lock-screen glitch (can't slide to unlock)
Tiny MMS issue
The list goes on. The issues are a combo of WinMo and HTC. Blame it on whomever you wish, but the end result is a less than stellar experience for many.
Yeah, you can interpret the OP's post as something akin to flamebait, but what I see are people with some serious defensiveness for their phones. Perhaps I'll join you when I get my HD2, but for now, I think I'm a fairly impartial outsider.
So I was looking at the iPad 2 conference on my Engadget app, and at 10:10am he mentioned that Honeycomb only has 100 apps compared to the iPad apps. And before that talked about the Galaxy S tabs. Check it out
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...les-ipad-2-event/&category=classic&postPage=1
Ps...why is he back...
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Is it 'disrespect' or just 'fact?'
I mean, you'd expect iPod to have a larger ecosystem -- right now.
I'm not an Android nor Apple fan boy; both entities are contributing to the forward movement of technology, which can only benefit us in the long run. Let's not get caught up on his words. In fact, they may stir the Android community to develop more and better apps for Android tablets to come.
Let's face it: No tablet is ever going to come close to the iPad or Apple, because big corps. just don't get it.
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Let's face it: No tablet is ever going to come close to the iPad or Apple, because big corps. just don't get it.
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Apple is not a big corp?!
I was talking about the other big corps trying to make tablets. Not saying apple gets everything right, they don't, but they understand the majority and have a pretty good business model.
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So I was looking at the iPad 2 conference on my Engadget app, and at 10:10am he mentioned that Honeycomb only has 100 apps compared to the iPad apps. And before that talked about the Galaxy S tabs. Check it out
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...les-ipad-2-event/&category=classic&postPage=1
Ps...why is he back...
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I've owned a iPhone 3G then moved to the EVO because android was more open and it supported flash.
I was going to attempt to make a reasonable post on how moronic it sounds to try and downplay the impact the iPad2 will have.
But I rather just say this: Nothing will come close to beating the iPad2 in terms of an market ecosystem/product design/buzz/fanboyism/price point within a reasonable competitive time frame.
The Xoom is more expensive and does not even currently support flash. One of the sharpest points Android has against iOS. HTC forth coming tablet is basically an EVO with a larger screen.
And lets not forget the iOS is way more flexible once you jailbroke it, which in itself is not terribly hard to do compared to when the first iPhone's came out.
I'm going to purchase a tablet this year, and had my heart set on an android tablet. The iPad2 made that choice a lot harder. HC still has a way to go begin to penetrate that tablet space.
IPad 2 is sexy. I love honeycomb but, android needs to work with the device manufacturers closer to be able to match apples software/hardware synergy. Everything the iPad2 does has been crafted so beautifully while something like the xoom still don't compare. Even the original iPad looks better and move smoother than the xoom. Based on the video on Engadget the iPad2 takes that to another level. **** the iPad2 cover is also amazing. Don't get me wrong my phone will most likely will always be an Android because of widgets but I think I want an iPad2.
if apple knew anything about what their customers wanted they'd of included flash on their devices by now...
How in the hell can they still not have flash on the ipad 2? where is the logic in that? Tablets are supposed to be replacements for netbooks/laptops, you would think the most basic thing to have would be flash....
I think the flash (non)support is adobe's choosing. Some battle between Apple and Adobe.
Regardless on your feelings for Steve Jobs and Apple, If it weren't for Steve Jobs, the Evo probably wouldn't even exist. Neither would Android, at least not in their current forms.
The iPhone is what brought about this cellular "reniassance". Try to remember the smartphone scene before the iPhone. It was pretty much non existant unless you it was your hobby, or you needed one for work. And remember the choices? The old Palm OS, Blackberrys, which did absolutely nothing but messaging, and Windows Mobile. Palm OS and Windows Mobile were little more than PDA's with celluar radios. Apple put the smartphone in the eyes and hands of the average person.
Of course he's going to trash talk Android, it's finally a legit competitor to iOS. WebOS, while a nice OS, has absolute trash for hardware. WindowsPhone7 will stay around I think, it has promise, but it launched on last years hardware missing features from last years smartphones, so it has some catching up to do. Blackberry might be ok if the new QNX based platform comes out, but QNX was developed for terminals and what not, and not meant to rely on a battery, so battery life was not a concern.
Anyway you look at it, it's a good time if you like smartphones, and you have Apple to thank for it.
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I think the flash (non)support is adobe's choosing. Some battle between Apple and Adobe.
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Nope. Apple won't allow third party dev platforms on their devices. Adobe even made it so you could build a Flash application and then compile for iOS or whatever so Apple made it against the TOS to even develop on any other platform.
The thing is, so many iOS apps are fancy frontends for websites or things you can do in Flash/Air. If you could run Flash apps in a browser or Flash player app, you immediately have access to a ton of the things iOS apps can do...but without Apple getting their cut of every sale. It undermines their control over a closed ecosystem which has kept their devices both relatively stable and incredibly lucrative.
Adobe has been pissed at Apple ever since they screwed them over when they dropped Carbon64 for Cocoa, wasting years of Adobe development for OSX. Since Windows was a riper market and more open for developers, they started to put a lot more effort into their Windows ports. Jobs got pissed about that and has held a grudge since. Between that and the desire for complete control, they have a pretty uneasy relationship with Adobe.
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The iPhone is what brought about this cellular "reniassance". Try to remember the smartphone scene before the iPhone. It was pretty much non existant unless you it was your hobby, or you needed one for work. And remember the choices? The old Palm OS, Blackberrys, which did absolutely nothing but messaging, and Windows Mobile. Palm OS and Windows Mobile were little more than PDA's with celluar radios. Apple put the smartphone in the eyes and hands of the average person.
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There were some pretty good smart phones before the iPhone. I had Treos and Pocket PCs and they had GPS, copy/paste, 3rd party apps, touch screens, etc. long before the iPhone existed. Even when the iPhone came out it didn't have most of the features of a smart phone.
What it *did* have was a bigger/more responsive screen and a great mobile browser. That was the contribution of the iPhone. It was a great contribution and one I totally appreciate but it was an evolution, not a revolution. The other big contribution was putting the Apple marketing machine behind it. Apple doesn't screw around when it comes to marketing whereas Palm and Microsoft and RIM never seemed interested in marketing direct to consumer instead of to business. Aside from the Palm Centro, you wouldn't really see ads for these things so people kept buying RAZRs and such for the most part.
The whole market has been evolving long before the iPhone. They didn't start it but rather let others break ground as they usually do, and then once a lot of the roadblocks were out of the way, they put out a device that was missing a lot of common smart phone features but which was very attractive to a wide market which wasn't being addressed and was not aware of what they were missing.
I'm glad this happened because it helped to popularize big screens and good mobile browsers. Other platforms and devices likewise influenced Apple to add things like GPS, copy/paste, third party apps, multitasking, changeable wallpapers, etc.
It's win-win for us since we have better options to choose from.
People keep harping on flash but skyfire works on IOS and shows flash just fine. I mean its been out since like last November.
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IPad 2 is sexy. I love honeycomb but, android needs to work with the device manufacturers closer to be able to match apples software/hardware synergy. Everything the iPad2 does has been crafted so beautifully while something like the xoom still don't compare. Even the original iPad looks better and move smoother than the xoom. Based on the video on Engadget the iPad2 takes that to another level. **** the iPad2 cover is also amazing. Don't get me wrong my phone will most likely will always be an Android because of widgets but I think I want an iPad2.
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Except the fact remains is iOS sucks horribly at multi-tasking.
LOL I read the title of this thread and thought of the first Fast and Furious movie where the guy says SWAT came into his house and disrespected his family.
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Except the fact remains is iOS sucks horribly at multi-tasking.
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Explain. Why would I want a calculator app running in the background taking up memory? Or having rouge apps cause wake lock problems? iOS has background processing for things that make sense, push notifications for updates, and save states for everything else. That frees up memory, CPU time, and battery life.
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I will be the first one to say I hate Steve jobs out of all my friends. Ipad 2 just gave every tablet a run for its money even the ones that aren't out yet that will launch thus year. Flash doesn't really mean crap 1 its still slow on the evos browser and html 5 will eventually be that standard I believe. I finally bought my first macbook pro this year 2 weeks ago. I have always been a windows user and could have purchased a windows comp with better specs than my macbook pro for half the price. Wanna know why I hate steve jobs/apple do much; because APPLE has the market by the balls. I don't know how else to explain it but they do.
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It is what it is... I don't get caught up in the wars between smartphone/tablet makers. I just let them battle it out because in the end.. competition is good for the consumer.
Like it or not, Apple puts out quality products... can't deny that. It's easier for them to perfect what they have because they use their own hardware/software where as android is on a lot of different hardware.
A lot of these so called "mid-range" android phones are garbage and really gives them a bad name. I'll call out the samsung acclaim... I know 3 people with that phone and it is their first android phone..and it is total junk. Between all 3 of them they random reboots, horrible battery, unresponsive screens, lag and hang ups out the rear.
I'm all for making yourself available.. but when you put products like that out that people are foced to keep for the duration of their contract, then you'll lose customers. The 3 people I know are definitely going iphone next.
I think that is just one of the ways Apple keeps their place among the top of the line.. by not putting their software on crap hardware that ultimately results in a bad rep for your product.
Just remember. Good marketing beats a good product all day long.
At the end of the day, this is just another rerun of 1984. Apple doesn't want to license their hardware nor software. Along comes IBM (In this case Android) and the clones which eventually let way to Windows which can be run on any IBM compatible (Android devices). Sound familiar?
i was thinking about buying a notion ink off of ebay. i have had a few tablets in the past ( gtab, nook color, elocity, galaxy). could you please give me your personal opinion on the notion. should i buy a notion ink, xoom, or the new toshiba tablet coming out.
thank you for your replys
I personally like my Adam, however, it is not for everyone. There are some parts of it that could be quite a bit better. For example, the display in general isn't exactly top notch. (there is about an eighth of an inch between the surface which kind of bugs me) Nevertheless, I love my tablet. Why, you ask? Because it's mine. I don't know anybody with one. It makes me special.
Now, on the subject of other tablets, I think that the transformer looks kind of cool, the xoom is kind of... not very... cool. The galaxy tab 10.1, however, looks promising. I generally like samsung products because of their quality, and the 10.1 does not look like an exception, however, it is not out yet. I have not heard much about the toshiba one so I can't say much about that.
In short, I feel that of the tablets that you mentioned, none of them are worth buying right now, unless you have some money that you are desperate to spend.
You should check out the new asus tablet I love that! Though I like my Adam too!
aren't the asus tablet stupid expensive
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At $399 for the 16GB and $499 for the 32Gb the simple answer is no.
You should NOT buy the NotionInk Adam!
I bought one and I'm really happy with it, my girlfriend bought one which was dead on arrival and NotionInk support sucks - they refuse to fulfill the what they promise in the warranty.
...furhermore: The peace of hardware is ok - The PixelQi screen is superb but thats it. Forget NotionInks software (its very laggy - it simply sucks) - but there are good comunity roms.
Buy the Xoom and be happy.
Thanks. for some reason I thought they were 1200 dollars. I am definitely going to get one.
did some looking at the transformer. it is cheaper than the notion and comes with honeycomb. the best thing i like is that it comes from a company that i know and trust. i have seen too many postings on the notion ink about dead pixels.
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Thanks. for some reason I thought they were 1200 dollars. I am definitely going to get one.
did some looking at the transformer. it is cheaper than the notion and comes with honeycomb. the best thing i like is that it comes from a company that i know and trust. i have seen too many postings on the notion ink about dead pixels.
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Completely agree!
I have an Asus g60 and after a year when I sent it to get my hinges replaced, they replaced almost all the parts including the motherboard; so that I shouldn't have a problem in the future
Though not sure how much of that was thrown away, just increasing the tons of e-waste!
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i was thinking about buying a notion ink off of ebay. i have had a few tablets in the past ( gtab, nook color, elocity, galaxy). could you please give me your personal opinion on the notion. should i buy a notion ink, xoom, or the new toshiba tablet coming out.
thank you for your replys
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Buying an Adam via eBay or third party, take into consideration that the warranty only applies to the original owner.
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Yeah it goes pretty good,
Screen is much to be desired, but with the right rom it seems very fast and capable.
My TC
Adam generally has everything all other tegra 2 android tablets offer. Of course the screen could be better and they have cut some corners to keep the price down.
I am enjoying having it even with the screen it has and does well in all normal tasks of surfing, reading, playing games, movies and of course hacking.
Basically try and get the cheapest but functional tablet u can, as anyway in six month's time there would be lots of other options.
I am very disappointed from the device.
I bought the PixelQi+3G+Wifi. it arrived a few days ago and the screen is horrible,it has bleeding edges,And very blur corners,the brightness is not perfect and colors are dead.
I couldent activate 3G at all (I got airplane mode right from the start) after a few mails to support and several attempts to solve the problem they admitted it is a problem that will be solved in the next update.
Here are some photos compared to my Elocity A7.
I decided to return the device ( almost losing $180 for costumes and shipping fees).
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As reviewers say the tablet has a high learning curve, it takes some time to get the hang of it, but its still really good cheap android tablet and notion Ink is still going to give it soome honeycomb goodness
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OK I didnt even know about the warranty good thing i work with the guy i got mine from and he helped design the UI so im ok lol BUT back to topic I LOVE MY ADAM!!!!!!! best android device i have had out the box it isnt GREAT but not horrible I dint overly like it at first but with Eden X AWESOME!!!!!!! NO FLAWS WORKS LIKE IT SHOULD love my PQi 3G Adam wouldnt sell it I was going to get the zoom but changed my mind after the PQi screen
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The guy who posted a couple of pictures above is making some mistakes you should be aware of.
1. He is using the VTL launcher alternative that is standard on Beast and EdenX which includes the blur on the edges on purpose to give some indication to the user that the dock is located there. You can turn that off if you want.
2. The edge bleeding is a problem mostly if you turn your screen brightness to near the top setting. This is true of many devices and its not really connected to the quality of the Adam. The iPad2 is known to have the same issue.
I have an Adam, and for the most part I like it. I wish the stock software was ok, but it isn't so I changed it. The hardware is mostly good but there are some issues there as well. The pixel qi screen is amazing, but the viewing angles on a couple of sides are bad. The ports and connectivity options are great as well. No other tablet even comes close. If the ASUS transformer had a pixel qi screen and was priced under $600 I would jump all over it. But sadly it doesn't. I am not too concerned about the lack of Honeycomb yet. The UI on Honeycomb is nice, but at this point in time lacking Honeycomb means I just can't get a couple of Honeycomb only apps I would like to get. Later on in perhaps 6 months to a year it might be a real problem, but I honestly think that by then we should have Honeycomb either from a ROM dev or from NI itself. As far as support from NI is concerned, I cannot honestly comment since I have had not a single issue that I could not resolve myself. Seeing as how you are on XDA in the first place, the software issues shouldn't be a problem for you.
I love my Adam but it definately is not for people who are looking for a perfect experience out of the box. Basically you need to root this this and get a decent version of android on it to make it enjoyable. Personally I went for the stock android experience but there are some beuitfully done upgrades to Eden (the default OS) so try 'em out!
From a hardwrae point of view, I LOVE the pixel qi screen, the camera is pretty crap but will be fine for conference calling/skype. Actually having usb ports that work is a huge boon and the HDMI port is full size which is awesome (though I havnt used it yet)
All in all I wouldn't recommend it to my Mother but to you it may just be perfect!
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I love my Adam for its Pixel Qi screen and also like the hardware design and layout
BUT
I think that the startup Notion Ink sucks - support is not able to handle cases.
The software on the device is really bad in spite of that this should be there flagship - the thing which makes the Adam a better experience - Its definitely not.
Its needed to replace the software with one of the custom ROMs and there are quite a few good ones.
Conclusion: I like the device but the Company Notion Ink sucks but you have a really good experience with ROMs which are not from Notion Ink.
I was on the PO1 and made a huge mistake in purchasing the Adam. I have the PQi screen (the only saving grace for NI anymore). The glass on the Adam broke and there is no way to get it fixed. I have been sending emails to NI for a month and only received a response in the first 7 days. Other than that, the support is non-existent. My guess is the company will be out of funding and gone by the end of the year (or it will have minimized its consumer based to a small niche crowd and will be a shoe-string operation). They cannot survive with their lack customer service. And don't let their blog fool you, they are moderating out most of the posts from the blog and their conclave forums.
The hardware is good, but everyone is catching up quickly.
You would be better off going to Vegas and picking red or black with your money. You will either get a great return, or the same level of service you would get from NI.
Save yourself and don't buy one.
I was PO2 and have ad no problems with support (24 hour retune on emails) i have had nothing break and i love it there is an update comeing 1st or second week of may the brings it up to a better software version and let us not forget a startup will not have the support of the big guys adn alot of time has to be spent with the people to get funding overall Adam is not for everyone but i love mine and would not trade it for 2 xooms and a asus
p.s im running non rooted stcok eden ui
I have realized that jentous is right about the blur thing from the VTL launcher ,still , bleeding is seen in many brightness selections,colors are dull compared to a regular LCD screen , i am still unable to activate 3G yet, and there is no reply from NI support after i informed them that i wish to return the product and I'm waiting for return procedure details.
I'm in the market to get a new/first tablet. I've been looking around the web a bit. The new Asus transformer prime is sounding like a beast, but with the keyboard dock it will probably be fairly expensive and I'm not sure I really need that kind of power for my uses. Then I saw the new Xoom2 and I was intrigued but saw a lot of "it's barely an upgrade from the Xoom" kind of posts. After looking at the specs for Xoom and considering the fact that it will probably be significantly cheaper than the new gen of tablets, I'm possibly interested in it. Here's what I want from a tablet:
+Browsing - I want a tablet that is very capable of browsing the internet with ease and fluidity.
+Work/Note-taking/productivity - I want to be able to write articles and write down lecture notes very easily. How good is the typing experience on 10inch tablets with the virtual keyboard? There is always the bluetooth keyboard option I suppose.
+Movies/youtube - I want a tablet that's great for watching videos. How's the display on the Xoom?
+Front-facing camera - I need a tablet capable of doing video chat well. How good is the quality of the front facing camera and video chatting?
+Speed - I don't need a super-powered beast, but I need something that won't struggle on a day-to-day basis and that runs fast. How's the speed and fluidity on this tablet? With the Quad-core transformer prime coming, I want to know how this actually performs.
+Camcorder - In actuality I don't plan on using a tablet for its camera or camcorder, but I would have some use for good video recording on a tablet. Not really a factor in my decision, but how is the video recording quality on this thing?
+Design/styling - I've seen a lot of references to the thickness of the Xoom, but it does't look bad to me in pics/videos. How does this tablet actually look irl to you?
+Future Updates - I understand that this will be getting ICS. Not sure it will continue to get further updates. However, it is my belief that the original Xoom is bound to have probably the largest online community for a tablet for a while. That means that even if this doesn't get future updates, the community here will probably be able to support this tablet for quite a while (like the OG droid). Does that sound right?
+Pricing/availability - How much do new Xoom's tend to cost? Quick ebay search seemed to say around $450+ but that doesn't sound right. I suppose once the Xoom2 is released, motorola will reduce the price on their website.
+Your opinion - What is your overall opinion on the Xoom? Would you still recommend it?
Thanks
the browsing experience in xoom is fantastic
For me, typing is not too bad.. i nvr use a bt keyboard but a tablet stand with typing angle
The display quality of xoom is just normal.. anyway with good video player, the quality is still above average
Video chat works great on skype n gtalk
In stock 3.2, for me, with normal use, the speed is good enough. Anyway if u wan blazing fast u may root n flash custom roms n kernels .. n may overclock it too
Video recording is nice
For me the design is good n solid. Thickness of this device makes my fingers wont feel tired after a long use .. too slim may tired our finger
At this point in time the xoom is outdated. We all knew it would happen, hell every other month something new and shiny comes out.
Wait for the Transformer prime the first tegra 3 (quad core) tab.
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At this point in time the xoom is outdated. We all knew it would happen, hell every other month something new and shiny comes out.
Wait for the Transformer prime the first tegra 3 (quad core) tab.
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I know in comparison to what's coming, the specs of the XOOM seem outdated. However, I believe that the Transformer prime with the keyboard dock will be quite pricey (and who knows when it will get to Canada) whereas the XOOM shouldn't be. I want to know if the XOOM is right for my interests as mentioned in OP.
There is hardly any real difference between any of the "main" tablets out there right now. The hardware is essentially the same, the only real difference is with the types of ports the tablets have (USB, HDMI, microSD, etc). I chose the Xoom after the release of the Tab 10.1 because I hated how Samsung went with their proprietary dock for everything (like Apple does), and also the tab 10.1 feels like it would break easily. Yes, the Xoom is still very relevant, it has the same hardware as all of the other current tablets, has the best build quality, gets OS updates first, and has all of the ports you'll need. The only detractor is the LCD is not as bright as say the Tab 10.1. It's barely any thicker than the other tablets, but it is a bit heavier, mainly due to the fact that it isn't made out of thin plastic.
I too don't like the "plasticky" look and feel of the Galaxy tablets.
I was looking around and it seems that the Xoom has no haptic feedback? I find haptic feedback quite useful for touch typing. Has it been a drawback for your typing experience or does it make no difference?
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I too don't like the "plasticky" look and feel of the Galaxy tablets.
I was looking around and it seems that the Xoom has no haptic feedback? I find haptic feedback quite useful for touch typing. Has it been a drawback for your typing experience or does it make no difference?
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Haptic feedback is nice for devices with garbage touch screens, or when your fingers are ice cold and as dry as burnt toast... But for my uses, it hasn't been missed on my xoom.
Without having a quad core tablet to test and compare to, it is hard to say which will be better for cost vs. benefit. Just like PC's I expect that going from a dual core to a quad core CPU will make almost no difference for most users for the first few months or years- except for those users who know exactly why they want a quad. Just a guess, and a large part of why I bought a xoom a couple weeks ago.
Basically for me: The xoom is the best supported, best built tablet on the market, with specs equivalent to the other new shiny tablets. The screen is perfectly acceptable to me, the battery life is mind-blowing and browsing is far better than I thought possible on an Android device. Just don't expect HD flash content to work well in a browser. The unlockable bootloader was also a major consideration. I don't feel like there is any other tablet that compares currently, and I don't think I'd give up my bootloader for 4 cores... and if that is so important to me, I doubt the quad would be worth the difference in cash for me to be an early adopter. (I like being an early adopter too!)
Anyway, that's my 2¢.
Let's be realistic about what you are going to do with your tablet. Read email, browse the internet, watch some youtube videos, read a book. The Xoom does all of these things exceedingly well. I would even venture to say that it does them all just as good if not better than anything else on the market at the moment.
Being power hungry is awesome, and the newer 67-core processors are sweet but you aren't doing high end graphics or video editing on your tablet...so is it worth the extra money? Right now you can get brand new Xooms for like $350 in some places. I gladly shelled out $600 for mine at the time...so $350 for a new one is a damn good deal.
Also, there is something to be said for the AOSP experience. The Honeycomb featured on the Xoom isn't loaded with a bunch of UI layers to "enhance" the user experience. It's straight Android.
I'd also say it will get ICS before any of the other tablets do.
nooomoto;19106377Right now you can get brand new Xooms for like $350 in some places. [/QUOTE said:
Can you give some examples of where I could get that? Thanks
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Can you give some examples of where I could get that? Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335020
Actually the prime will be 499 and the original TF will stay at 399
I think people pay too much attention to the hardware, when the software matters more, or even most.
Hardware-wise, as someone already said, things are pretty similar. All Teg2 tabs perform the same, and the OMAP4 is roughly equivalent. The one exception is video. OMAP4 is better on HD vids, so get that if watching vids is important to you.
Buyers all want "smoothness." That mostly depends on the OS and apps, and things like the Flash plugin. Honeycomb was kind of a beta in this respect, and hopefully ICS will bring more refinement. This aside, my opinion is that "smoothness" is mostly within the user's control. Watch what apps you run in the background, and don't load up on stuff like live wallpapers, etc.
Software always run at least one cycle behind the hardware. Most Android apps and games I've seen are still geared toward phones, although many will use the higher resolution if available. I've yet to see a game that really tax the Tegra2. The latest AAA shooter, Shadowgun, runs smoothly on a Nook Color, which has only a single-core A8. My takeaway is that current tablets should be fine for all the software for this and next year, at least until the next cycle when Jelly Belly appears.
>Can you give some examples of where I could get that?
WalMart currently sells refurb 32GB Xooms for $350. I'm fairly certain these are clearanced Xooms being rebranded. The only diff is that they may have a shorter warranty. You can find out your warranty period here,
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...i-fi---service:-frequently-asked-questions#w1
These shouldn't be confused with the newer Xoom Family Edition (FE), which is also around $350. I'd suggest against the FE despite its better screen, since it has no community support at the moment, and probably won't. Devs & enthusiasts will either hang onto their current Xoom, or upgrade to a newer tablet.
That said, the new Xoom2's aren't that much more. The 8.2" will be $400, and the 10" will likely be $450. New toys will always get better support--from both the vendor and the new community--than old toys.
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That said, the new Xoom2's aren't that much more. The 8.2" will be $400, and the 10" will likely be $450. New toys will always get better support--from both the vendor and the new community--than old toys.
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They are? That's not bad at all. Thought they were both over $500. Are they going to come to America/Canada though?
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They are? That's not bad at all. Thought they were both over $500. Are they going to come to America/Canada though?
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The other question is whether the newer tablets (including Xoom two) will have unlockable bootloaders so they can be modded. The Xoom Family Media Edition doesn't, which is why there isn't any development for it.
Okay this is kind of mean to me... http://www.dailysteals.com/
I haven't had enough time to make my decision yet but this site wants to pressure me to get one within 22 hours and save... argh
Browsing - all 10,1" tablets available at REASONABLE price will perform similar
Work/Note-taking/productivity - you will not do that too often, trust me I use BT keyboard for longer cha...err... work, and Hacker's Keyboard (onscreen almost-real QWERTY keyboard) for quick texts.
Movies/youtube - I actualy re-discovered Youtube with my XOOM. You will need to buy Dice Player to enjoy full quality full length movies. XOOM's display is a little pale comparing to my SGS' sAMOLED screen. BUT it does not burn your eyes out.
Speed - like in every other IT field, the more crap you put, the less speed you get. You can always OC your tablet, but... what for?
Design/styling - XOOM looks like a heavy-duty device, while GT10.1 looks like a child's toy. Yes, aesthetics should not be discussed, since its interpretation is a matter of taste.
Future Updates - ICS for sure, who knows about the rest. As long as XDA Community exists, there is hope
Opinion - Well... I paid ~530$ last month for my second-hand XOOM 3G EU (yay, its good that all the people in Poland are sooooo wealthy that it makes no difference for us to pay much more for toys... ). And would pay it again if given another chance Played with Tab 10.1" - thin plastic didn't like that + the price? ~850$, geez... Thought about Transformer. Almost bought it, but with no keyboard dock and no 3G modem. ~530$. Docked and modem-ed? ~850$...
Well, you do not need a 16-core device to enjoy it, especially that there are no apps or games that could utilize all that power. I know, I know, some people buy themselves a Ferrari just to drive it slowly through the country, but... (well that was not a brilliant sentence).
Edited: one more thing - there ALWAYS is an upcoming, better-than-available device. You can wait forever.
Does the Xoom do what it did when it furst came out, yes, in which case to me it is still relivant.
>http://www.dailysteals.com/
They won't run out any time soon. The daily bargain sites rely on the classic buying button: a deal is more appealing when it's time-limited. "Hurry and buy now before it's gone!" Prices for Teg2 tabs will continue to drop. The Xoom will be $300 or less by Black Friday.
>there ALWAYS is an upcoming, better-than-available device. You can wait forever.
Tech toys and their pricing have cycles, and it's always better to buy at the start rather than the end of a cycle. You have more choices, and prices are lower (on the old toys). Moreover, the start of the tech toy cycle is timed to coincide with the holiday shopping season, which is when the best deals are to be had.
IOW, from now until the end of the year (any year) is the best time to buy new toys.
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What's the "best" tab depends mostly on you and how you use one. The Xoom has many good qualities: high build quality, 32GB, good community support, available ports, dual-band wifi, etc. Its one notable drawback is that it's heavy.
Weight is a big deal if you plan to hold a tab unsupported for extended periods. It's not a big deal if you offset the weight with a supporting surface--your lap, a surface, etc. If your envisioned use is mostly while standing, then a lighter (or may be smaller) tablet is better.
More ergonomic stuff: I like the Xoom2's rubberized bezel (as opposed to edge-to-edge glass or plain plastic on most tablets). The more friction the bezel can provide, the lighter the needed handgrip, and the less hand fatigue.
OTOH, I don't pay much attention to the "thin-is-in" trend, although I understand it's necessary for marketing. A thinner tablet can actually be less comfortable to hold, if the edge is thin enough that it cuts into the palm of your holding hand. The tapered edge and smooth metal surfaces of the Asus TF Prime make it look very chic and sleek, but I wouldn't want to hold one for very long.
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Okay this is kind of mean to me... http://www.dailysteals.com/
I haven't had enough time to make my decision yet but this site wants to pressure me to get one within 22 hours and save... argh
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I saw this link, and instantly pulled out my credit card.
I'm getting a xoom
Im a little late on this debate and the opinions are all completely valid.. I have had a xoom since my joining date of xda, also last week I just purchased another xoom after a very disappointing experience with an acer a500 (that i got to further provide experience in the realm of android); i also found the dev scene in xda on the a500 was rude and not at all friendly; that is a big thing for me I havn't been an a-hole to anyone and help as much as I can, the xoom forums are awesome for that as well
Browsing - browsing has been really good, first off I have to say i was a app junkie and had always used an app for the browser, flash worked well on most of them for me, some sites were poops but hey i also have a laptop lol.. i then rediscovered the xoom stock browser and say I use it almost exclusively and love it
Work/Note-taking/productivity - you can do many things, however my personal opinion is your ability to do these things are limited to exactly what you want to do. there are good-ish apps for work related things with office typed products; however for my university work I have noticed that I cannot do much of the things I want and compatibility issues are still there like good powerpoint manipulation etc, this is not a problem of the xoom this is a problem for the apps so whether you have a new/old whatever tab the experience with this is limited to my previous comments. If you need to type just documents like memos, letters, etc you should be fine with the current state of affairs
Movies/youtube - I havnt actually watched many videos on my xoom, as I dont have any on it at the moment, I will be on holiday soon and will definitely be watching some on the plane and i already have dice player in anticipation, it plays them quite clearly and depending on the video parameters you should be quite happy. I have watched flashed based videos on websites and they play great and keep me entertained
Speed - even with stock rom i had good speed, no lags, no reboots, nothing i was so stoked with my xoom, compared to the a500 where it had lag like all hell and rebooted frequently on stock rom, was poop
Design/styling - the xoom is not a elegant device as many are aware, however, in all honesty the asthetics are frequently covered by things such as a case, screen protector, hands, etc so why do people place so much emphasis on this. I wanted functionality, the xoom was the best for this and I am still smiling at it
Future Updates - ICS will come as soon as source is released, I think this is why the devs here are a tad quiet, they are either working on something now, or waiting until source is released, and then it will explode with a whole new set of roms
Opinion - i love my xoom, sure I am thinking about the transformer prime however, the price may make my stay away mainly because I have a laptop that I payed a small car for in price, I don't need to pay for other crap... i would like the prime maybe down the track when price is lowered or the dev scene is bigger like 'tegra3 dedicated games' or something of the like but I will almost certainly have to get one from overseas, australia is the last place to get electronics and we pay a premium for outdated stuff from our local vendors the screw merchants and they wonder why the aussie people are all buying online... anyway I digress.. I say go to your local walmart (or your stores over there sorry for the generalisation) and ask to have a little play, then you will instantly see what we are all talking about... even jump to the other forums on xda and see how the dev scene is and see how people treat each other, if your gonna buy a device on here im sure your going to be a part of the relevant thread and if you recieve no help or are screwed over you will be annoyed and resent your device
sorry for the long post and I hope i have helped
So, browsing today, i found this: You know the phoneblox concept that everyone been talking about how it will never happen? well Motorola just announced an "open modular" Phone design scheme thing. Motorola say "WE WANT TO DO FOR HARDWARE WHAT THE ANDROID PLATFORM HAS DONE FOR SOFTWARE." (sorry about caps) Heres a link, if you want to read more: http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/29/5041336/motorola-project-ara-modular-smartphones
And also, from the blog:http://motorola-blog.blogspot.jp/2013/10/goodbye-sticky-hello-ara.html
Its called "Project Ara".
Pics bellow.
Discuss.
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Although I appreciate tech news as much as the next guy, I don't see how you can throw in XP2 into the title. This article is merely a pseudo update of a story from earlier in the year in regards to how PC's you can build and change out parts and as such, now Motorola, is looking into the concept of a smartphone that you can build and change its components. But I dont' the concept includes a gamepad and touchpad. Even if it did Devs would still have to support it, no support then its useless.
Again, not trying to sound like an a$$ and belittle your discovery, I am actually quite glad to see a compny actually looking into it as its a nice concept. But I fail to see how or why this could be the Xperia PLAY 2.
I think people need to realize, its been 2.5 years since this phone was released, I view our phone as along the lines as the HTC EVO 3D. A one time 'test project" to see if it would be successful enough. Clearly just as HTC is not interested in making an EVO 3D 2, Sony is not interested in making a XP2.
Woah
ozzmanj1 said:
Although I appreciate tech news as much as the next guy, I don't see how you can throw in XP2 into the title. This article is merely a pseudo update of a story from earlier in the year in regards to how PC's you can build and change out parts and as such, now Motorola, is looking into the concept of a smartphone that you can build and change its components. But I dont' the concept includes a gamepad and touchpad. Even if it did Devs would still have to support it, no support then its useless.
Again, not trying to sound like an a$$ and belittle your discovery, I am actually quite glad to see a compny actually looking into it as its a nice concept. But I fail to see how or why this could be the Xperia PLAY 2.
I think people need to realize, its been 2.5 years since this phone was released, I view our phone as along the lines as the HTC EVO 3D. A one time 'test project" to see if it would be successful enough. Clearly just as HTC is not interested in making an EVO 3D 2, Sony is not interested in making a XP2.
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Well... I just thought of it as an opportunity, not to step on anyone's toes. The reason I decided to include xp2, was due to Motorola stating:"The modules "can be anything," says Motorola, giving examples ranging from a new keyboard or battery to more unusual components such as a pulse oximeter.". Im sorry Ill remove it if it makes you happy, but i just thought...
Also, Hers A video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaPf4ZIbDVM#t=125
I think the post is fine how it is. It isn't technically an xperia play 2, but maybe in time they could make gaming parts to make a gaming phone. That in a way could be an xperia play alternative.
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insane5125 said:
I think the post is fine how it is. It isn't technically an xperia play 2, but maybe in time they could make gaming parts to make a gaming phone. That in a way could be an xperia play alternative.
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Thank you. My point exactly
Overall nice find. I love the idea behind phone bloks and I'm happy companies are looking into it.
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insane5125 said:
Overall nice find. I love the idea behind phone bloks and I'm happy companies are looking into it.
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Would you consider buying one? I hear some people think it might not work due to parts being to expensive, and people "not having enough time" to customise their phones. I would definitely buy it
from the God of gaming, the Xperia Play
mocool05 said:
Would you consider buying one? I hear some people think it might not work due to parts being to expensive, and people "not having enough time" to customise their phones. I would definitely buy it
from the God of gaming, the Xperia Play
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The thing about me is that I'm a very cautious buyer. When I buy something I make sure it does what I what the way I expect it too. So like when the PS4 & Xbox One was announced I didn't preorder it because I want to make sure there is no bugs or hardware issues. This will be the same.
Overall though yes I would consider buying one. If both phone blok and Project Ara come out I would see myself going for phone blok just because when you look at Project Ara the receivers on the back seem a little restrictive, when on phone bloks you can get difrent size parts and place them anywhere (if I want a camera on the bottom back of my phone I can do that)
PS: Have you checked out my post about the IReadyGO Much I5? If you haven't go check it out its also a Xperia Play alternative. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2404623
insane5125 said:
The thing about me is that I'm a very cautious buyer. When I buy something I make sure it does what I what the way I expect it too. So like when the PS4 & Xbox One was announced I didn't preorder it because I want to make sure there is no bugs or hardware issues. This will be the same.
Overall though yes I would consider buying one. If both phone blok and Project Ara come out I would see myself going for phone blok just because when you look at Project Ara the receivers on the back seem a little restrictive, when on phone bloks you can get difrent size parts and place them anywhere (if I want a camera on the bottom back of my phone I can do that)
PS: Have you checked out my post about the IReadyGO Much I5? If you haven't go check it out its also a Xperia Play alternative. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2404623
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You do know their becoming one?
Yeah I noticed that after I posted it my bad. But the point still stands. customization is key to the success of this idea I feel.
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insane5125 said:
Yeah I noticed that after I posted it my bad. But the point still stands. customization is key to the success of this idea I feel.
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True
Nice to hear that
It's a great innovation
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Nice to hear that
It's a great innovation
Modular connection style, no need for modular pieces
Idea: Instead of putting modular pieces onto a fixed exoskeleton(which we still have to buy from motorola), they should develop modular connectivity, something like the connectors of a USB port, but each square "piece" having two in and two out ports on the sides, that way every module can connect to every module without the need for a base station.
Something along the lines of a jigsaw puzzle, without the need for a board.
Of course I'll admit, this will be much harder on the software side of things.
I hope a lot companies will participate like carl zeiss, nikon, canon, samsung for LENS, Wolfson, Yamaha, Roland for AUDIO, for SOCs/Mainboard Intel, TI, (Nvidia and AMD i guess?) Sony, Samsung, LG for DISPLAY, Sandisk, Kingston, Samsung, and Sony for STORAGE. I may not express stuff realistically (i am a noob). Just my idea. Like we chose our own hardware/setup and there are a lots of choices and everything.:good:
marcusljx said:
Idea: Instead of putting modular pieces onto a fixed exoskeleton(which we still have to buy from motorola), they should develop modular connectivity, something like the connectors of a USB port, but each square "piece" having two in and two out ports on the sides, that way every module can connect to every module without the need for a base station.
Something along the lines of a jigsaw puzzle, without the need for a board.
Of course I'll admit, this will be much harder on the software side of things.
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They use pins. also, wouldn't it be really fragile?
rad io said:
I hope a lot companies will participate like carl zeiss, nikon, canon, samsung for LENS, Wolfson, Yamaha, Roland for AUDIO, for SOCs/Mainboard Intel, TI, (Nvidia and AMD i guess?) Sony, Samsung, LG for DISPLAY, Sandisk, Kingston, Samsung, and Sony for STORAGE. I may not express stuff realistically (i am a noob). Just my idea. Like we chose our own hardware/setup and there are a lots of choices and everything.:good:
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Yep, that was the initial plan... Anything close would be good too
In a few years that should not only be an utopic dream; I want it to be reality! Every personal computer is a modular system consisting of different and separate components like ram, cpu, gpu and much more.
So why no modular phone?
The main difficulty is the small form factor and the fact that smartphones are products with a really short lifetime. Moreover it's easier to get a whole new smartphone than buying some components to builing his personal one.
On the other side there is a wide range of new possibilities with such a project and there are a lot of people that want to use some "special" phones. Me too!
So I hope and I think, in a few years there will come first modular phones to the consumer. But maybe they will be very expensive and with less possibilities than there theoretically could be realized. Let's hope the best!
I would definatley buy one because look so funky and awesome. and you can start off small and slowly upgrade without having to get an entirely new phone
Set Standards.
I still believe once the ground rules are down and maybe 4 or 5 boards are made available (price ranging from standard to dev standards) this will work.
Each chip must use X connector, allow a max of Y volts, amps etc.
And have on demand firmware/driver loading. Hopefully with the last option, you can hotswap certain parts without switching the device off.
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Idea: Instead of putting modular pieces onto a fixed exoskeleton(which we still have to buy from motorola), they should develop modular connectivity, something like the connectors of a USB port, but each square "piece" having two in and two out ports on the sides, that way every module can connect to every module without the need for a base station.
Something along the lines of a jigsaw puzzle, without the need for a board.
Of course I'll admit, this will be much harder on the software side of things.
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Nawbit wouldn't really make it harder for software, serial controllers deal with addressing chained devices all the time, look at SCSI and midi.
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