First time installing a ROM - Kindle Fire General

After researching for many weeks on how to root my Kindle Fire, I finally became a noob and rooted my first device. Thanks to all the awesome devs on this site to make that possible.
The next thing I want to do is start flashing some different ROMs to see what my Fire can really do.
After I flash a ROM, do I install data from a previous backup or do I have to start from scratch each time I install a new ROM?
If someone could help shed some light on switching between ROMs (I will be using TWRP) or point me to a thread that might cover this topic I would appreciate it very much. Thanks for your help.
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Depends on what data you are talking about.
General when switching between roms I follow a procedure.
1.Back up current apps with titanium backup.
2.Back up launcher settings with whichever launcher I'm using.
3.Boot into recovery.
4.Factory wipe - dalvik,cache,data,batt,rotation.
5.Flash rom.
6.Boot rom.
7.Restore apps from titanium.
8.Restore launcher settings.
Hope this helps!

Thanks! I am backing up my apps and system data with TB right now.
So is the backup I do within TWRP a ROM backup that has nothing to do with apps or data?
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I always backup in TWRP first. Wipe cache before and after installing rom.
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KnappyRoot said:
So is the backup I do within TWRP a ROM backup that has nothing to do with apps or data?
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Correct, that's why you need to backup with TB

Just trying to jump into this same world, what happens with all of your books and applications from Amazon when you switch. Does Amazon still push your books to your Kindle.
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MikeGolfW said:
Just trying to jump into this same world, what happens with all of your books and applications from Amazon when you switch. Does Amazon still push your books to your Kindle.
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you can still access your books through the Kindle app and all apps I've downloaded when on stock ROM have worked on my CM7 build

BluesHawk said:
you can still access your books through the Kindle app and all apps I've downloaded when on stock ROM have worked on my CM7 build
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Thank-you BluesHawk, I took the first step last night and installed TWRP along with Burritto. Now we'll see how long it takes me to be brave enough for the next step.

MikeGolfW said:
Thank-you BluesHawk, I took the first step last night and installed TWRP along with Burritto. Now we'll see how long it takes me to be brave enough for the next step.
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You're welcome. When you install market make sure to expand it with this build.prop editing guide

BluesHawk said:
Correct, that's why you need to backup with TB
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Actually TWRP has Ann option to backup data, and I have used it. Never needed TB myself

I just started using TB because it can reliably/easily move apps to SD - freed up LOTS of device memory. Though Apps2SD ran on my rooted stock Fire, it wouldn't give me the option to move them.. In fact, when installing and running Apps2SD, it never requested superuser rights.

I believe I have all the files in the right place to install CM7 barebones. I was wondering, if I wanted to go back to my stock rooted ROM if it was just as easy as installing the backup I created with TWRP. Guess I could unroot and remove TWRP and start from scratch but I am hoping not to go that route.
I think bob posted this same question in another thread but I thought I would ask here too to see if we could get more answers.
Thanks for all your help.
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would never ever flash the original stock rom (besides if returning the kf) cause you loose fff,twrp and root
furthermore there is a higher risk to brick
would instead recommend to flash one of the prerooted stock roms if you want to go back to stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22393194&postcount=20

I am still a little confused. What is the purpose of doing a backup within TWRP?
I just want to be prepared before I install my first ROM.
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KnappyRoot said:
I am still a little confused. What is the purpose of doing a backup within TWRP?
I just want to be prepared before I install my first ROM.
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to get back to your previous state in case something goes wrong

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Having Issues Installing Custom ROMs

Earlier, I mistakenly posted this thread in the Droid 2 global forums. This is where it shoud've been posted.
As you can see from the title of this thread, I am having problems installing ROMs on my rooted Droid 2. No matter which one I try to install (gummyjar, liberty, etc.), after I boot into recovery and follow the instructions for installing the ROMs, they don't; everything on my phone always looks the same as before. What might be the problem?
As a side note, Webroot, one of my mobile security apps, seems to quarantine the zip files a day or two after I download them. Might Webroot be the problem? Should I uninstall it and try installling these ROMs after doing that?
Try mounting system and data before flashing the roms. This sounds like it may be your issue.
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How do I do that?
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Did you
1. Root your phone successfully?
2. Install Koush Bootstrap and successfully bootstrap recovery?
3. Follow the directions correctly when installing the ROM's?
tattedupboy said:
How do I do that?
Boot into clockwork, select mounts and storage, then mount system and data. Then go install rom from sdcard.
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Finally, success! What I was doing incorrectly all this time was not using Koush Bootstrap recovery for the recovery. I had been attempting to do that portion of the process from the ROM Manager instead. Thanks for the help guys.
P.S. the ROM I ended up installing was the Big DX Serenity. Except for it not enabling vibrate on keypress, I like it so far.
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From what I hear, Liberty ROM is one of the quickest and most customizable ROM's out there right now. I was excited having just gotten Fission set up, but I think I'll be switching there.
Now that you've started swapping ROM's around too, you'll definitely want to be making backups of your phone. To do this, use Koush's Bootstrap to create a nandroid backup. This way, while trying out different things, you can try all sorts of ROM's with minimal hassle by just loading up your saved states.

Now that i'm finally rooted :D

Now that i've finally managed to root my SNS, what should i do now? :O
(What are some good roms, etc)
Look at all of the choices available and find the rom you like the most.
I'd personally recommend,
Lightweight and speed: oxygen
Cm7 is another cool rom
Miui is good as well.
Kernel: netarchys 1.3.7 with proton voltage condolences to undervolt and use voodoo functionality
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I'm a bit confused as to what I installed while I was rooting.
I installed Clockwork 3.0.2.4 but what exactly is this?
isinisterx said:
I'm a bit confused as to what I installed while I was rooting.
I installed Clockwork 3.0.2.4 but what exactly is this?
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It allows you to flash custom Roms and perform backups (restore your phone to a given point in time)
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OK, now before I rooted my phone I backed up my entire phone (copy and paste to desktop), but I still lost all my apps in the app store? any way of getting these back?
isinisterx said:
OK, now before I rooted my phone I backed up my entire phone (copy and paste to desktop), but I still lost all my apps in the app store? any way of getting these back?
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Yes, but you'd have had enabled back up to your Google account before you rooted and have to enable it on the rooted phone again, then the market will try to restore all apps.
If you didn't you got to do it manually (recommend doing it via webside market for easier accessing old apps), then get Titanium Backup and save all your apps.
isinisterx said:
OK, now before I rooted my phone I backed up my entire phone (copy and paste to desktop), but I still lost all my apps in the app store? any way of getting these back?
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No. Redownload them and back it up using a backup apply. I'd recommend tianjin backup pro. It costs $6 but its worth it. It backs up ur apps/games and data along with it.
Every rom flash involving a factory reset will wipe your apps. With titanium backup pro, you can one click restore everything
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Ok,
Final question is that how do i go about installing the rom? I downloaded it and transferred it to the memory card.
I go into fastboot and into recovery.
Then.?
isinisterx said:
Ok,
Final question is that how do i go about installing the rom? I downloaded it and transferred it to the memory card.
I go into fastboot and into recovery.
Then.?
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1. Download the ROM
2. mount the phone's USB
3. put it on the root of the /sdcard/ while mounted
4. unmount
5. go into recovery
6. wipe factory settings, data cache, dalvk cache (advanced)
P.S. i'd recommend getting clockwork 4.0.0.2 from the dev forums, its a lot better. better organization on wipes
7. flash the ROM (if you're flashing CM7, you have to flash Gapps afterwards) [flash zip from sdcard]
this flash applies to any flashable zips including kernels/roms/radios... DO NOT FLASH BOOT ANIMATIONS. you put them in /system/media/ if you choose to do so
8. reboot
how do u install teh clockwork 4.0.0.2?
isinisterx said:
how do u install teh clockwork 4.0.0.2?
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if you can please, hit the "thanks" button for all of my posts otherwise i wont help anymore because ive been posting on a timely fashion and I think I deserve something for my help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988686
download respective to your phone model
put it in /sdk/tools (you need adb environment setup)
go into bootloader mode
type "fastboot flash 4002-orange.img" or whatever color you downloaded.
zephiK said:
if you can please, hit the "thanks" button for all of my posts otherwise i wont help anymore because ive been posting on a timely fashion and I think I deserve something for my help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988686
download respective to your phone model
put it in /sdk/tools (you need adb environment setup)
go into bootloader mode
type "fastboot flash 4002-orange.img" or whatever color you downloaded.
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Kk I thank'd all your posts.
Do I have to install the htc sync?
isinisterx said:
Kk I thank'd all your posts.
Do I have to install the htc sync?
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No? Not sure where you get "HTC Sync" from. This is a Samsung phone, not a HTC one.

[Solved]Miui made backups not work

I was stock 6.2.1 rooted, installed twrp and made backup. Flashed cm7 got it running, made backup, went back to kindle rom. Flashed miui same way as cm7, got it running, although my purchased amazon apps wanted me to repurchase. Made backup, tried to restore to kindle, stuck in miui now. What do I do now? My backups are still showing, just wont restore.
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EDIT: I had changed the name of my backups so I would know which backup was which. If you do this, make sure to keep the date first then whatever you want after. Fixed that and back to kindle os.
It won't let you restore in TWRP?
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il Stalk3r li said:
It won't let you restore in TWRP?
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Nope, tried multiple times. Just goes back to miui. Even tried to reflash cm7 and try restoreing from there. No go. Like the miui disabled those backups.

Question: How to backup a stock/unrooted Fire?

Ok, I love my stock/unrooted Kindle Fire. I use it every day as is, but I want to try some of the ROMs out there to make it more of a tablet. I Sideload a number of apps not normally available in the Amazon market which seems fine for now so I'm in no realy hurry... Just things like Swype, Gmail, Play/Marketplace... etc would be nice.
However, In order to try this I have to wipe what I have... I have game saves that I don't want to lose (World of Goo, Plants Vs. Zombies, Peggle... etc.) I usually use Titanium Backup to do this on my phones but without rooting the KF I can't use Ti and it seems that I can't Root without wiping out all my data first.
Unfortunately, the Key Words of "Backup" "Stock" and "Unrooted" returns nearly everything within these forums so if you know a thread for doing this please feel free to direct me there since I can't seem to find a way to separate the wheat from the chaff.
OOps, I just realized I wasn't in Q&A when I posted... Go easy on me it was an honest mistake.
u can make a backup first if u want.
fastboot flash a recovery first.
fastboot flash bootloader
get into recpvery n make a backup immediately. then root after
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smirkis said:
u can make a backup first if u want.
fastboot flash a recovery first.
fastboot flash bootloader
get into recpvery n make a backup immediately. then root after
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Sounds easy enough... Reason I am leary is that in a lot of the initial device rooting I've dealt with, the initial recovery and bootloader are loaded along with a ROM which overwrites the data to a version which is rootable. If the Recovery and Bootloader images are seperate and won't touch the data then I would be a happy camper.
In digging further It looks like there is also a temporary root method but I can't confirm if the SU and TiBackup will work properly on a stock Fire with temp root. That would be perfection if they do... anyone without data they can't stand the thought of losing willing to verify?
what temp root? if there was, e would rewrite too methods lol.
we root via fastboot just like the nexus 7.
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smirkis said:
what temp root? if there was, e would rewrite too methods lol.
we root via fastboot just like the nexus 7.
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There was a method posted in the KF forum for using the Amazon Prime videos and still being rooted. I decided to just go full bore and just rooted/flashing TWRP.
Thanks for the help/suggestions! If I blow something up I'll come back a'lookin.

New Nexus Questions

Bout to get my nexus 4, will be dropped off by UPS tomorow. And i have a few questions, if anyone will be kind enough to answer.
Would it be a smart idea to unlock the bootloader and root it with TWRP recovery like the second i take it out of the box so that way i dont have to back anything up?
And then, when i decide to switch to a non stock ROM i will just need Titanium backup to backup my stuff and then im good to go?
Also, one more question, since nexus's dont have SD cards, wont my titanium backups get wiped when i flash a rom?
Thanks
1) Yes it would probably be a good idea to unlock and root right away. That's what I done with my Nexus 7. I didn't install recovery though because I wasn't interested in custom ROMs. If you're going to be flashing things right away then yes install the recovery aswell.
2) Titanium Backup will do that perfectly for you but you could always just make the backup through recovery. As you said you'll be using TWRP it means you can restore data separately from a backup anyway.
3) You don't need to worry about backups being wiped because they're stored in the internal SD. It's essentially just space to make sure important things can still be safe even if you factory reset.
Hope that helps
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Btw I would recommend Helium instead of Titanium Backup for backing up your stuff. Works much more efficiently, at least for me. Helium backs up everything, apps and app data, launcher, WiFi settings, user dictionary, launcher setup, and all your SMS data. I really like it and I've fully replaced Titanium Backup with it.
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Instead of titanium backup use go backup pro and save it to the cloud
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After you root & unlock the device I strongly suggest you play around with the phone for a few days and see how battery is and its performance as well. After those few days if you want you could just install any rom or kernel you want. You'll thank me later. Lol
KidCarter93 said:
1) Yes it would probably be a good idea to unlock and root right away. That's what I done with my Nexus 7. I didn't install recovery though because I wasn't interested in custom ROMs. If you're going to be flashing things right away then yes install the recovery aswell.
2) Titanium Backup will do that perfectly for you but you could always just make the backup through recovery. As you said you'll be using TWRP it means you can restore data separately from a backup anyway.
3) You don't need to worry about backups being wiped because they're stored in the internal SD. It's essentially just space to make sure important things can still be safe even if you factory reset.
Hope that helps
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nyyankees1237 said:
Btw I would recommend Helium instead of Titanium Backup for backing up your stuff. Works much more efficiently, at least for me. Helium backs up everything, apps and app data, launcher, WiFi settings, user dictionary, launcher setup, and all your SMS data. I really like it and I've fully replaced Titanium Backup with it.
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ayo234 said:
Instead of titanium backup use go backup pro and save it to the cloud
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scream4cheese said:
After you root & unlock the device I strongly suggest you play around with the phone for a few days and see how battery is and it's performance as well. After those few days if you want you could just install any rom or kernel you want. You'll thank me later. Lol
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thank you all so much! I really appreciate the answers. I will look into all three of those options for backing up my data! Thank you. and the internal sd card thing makes perfect sense so thank you for that explanation. You all have a good day!

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