Inconsistent keyboard behaviour under ICS across different apps - anybody seen this - Xoom General

I am using the stock ICS release that was pushed to my wifi Xoom. While I love it over HC I am noticing some inconsistenies in the way the keyboard behaves across applications. For example
e-mail
This is the best, as you type the characters appear both in the email and in blue just above the keyboard suggestions for the word appear from which you can select the correct one. If you ignore suggestions and the word still isn't known it's underlined in red and if you press the word, you get a pop up list of words that it thinks it could be. You can add to the dictionary or delete the word.
Google+
No suggestions in blue above the keyboard but if you enter a word it doesn't know it's highlighted in red and once again pressing the word offers a pop up list of words with the option to choose, add to the dictionary or delete
Google Voice
Same behaviour as with email - this is good
Browser in a Javascript enabled edit form
This is very variable and was terrible in HC with lag etc.
Works fine in the XDA forum now - same behaviour as in email which is great.
But on this forum www.googletvforum.com - very laggy typing, no spell check and no popup. This BBS uses vBulletin so it might be with all vBulletin sites.
Just wondering what others have been experiencing.

Yes. And it really sucks.
The g+ app is where I notice it the most.
Pretty sure it works everywhere else for me tho.
Running EOS stingray47 with gapps 10.5.
However this was also a problem on HC. So I tend to blame the app more so than the OS.
-John

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Swype input on messaging widget quick-text

Hopefully this hasn't been noted already. I use the stock messaging widget and click on it to quick-view my new texts, then hit reply to enter the "quick-text" which pre-fills in the recipient.
The problem I'm having is that when I use Swype as the input method in this box, it seems to lag and sometimes puts spaces in the wrong places, or punctuation before a word (as opposed to after). It appears that what's happening is that I'll 'swype' a word, it will bring up the selection list, and I'll hit a period. Normally this would insert the first-selected word and then a period, but in the quick-text, it appears to enter the period before auto-selecting the word from the list. This also happens where it will type the first letter of a word, put a space, then the rest of the word combined with the following word. For example "how a reyou" shows up often. The overall response time of using Swype as input for this seems slow and laggy.
I'm just curious if anyone else has encountered this or if there's a fix.
I think I've seen a screenshot of someone's phone trying to type in Skype in the stock Moto messaging widget and having a ton of gibberish in the input box, so I don't think it's just your phone.
I guess I'm kinda glad about that. Hopefully they fix it. I've just been trying to avoid using it, but it's so convenient.
When I first started using swype I was having all kinds of spaces and lag. Now that I'm running launcher pro everything is running smooth and I haven't had any lag problems. I also messed with some of the settings for swype.
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Swype bug in stock email app

I like almost everything about the stock email app. One thing that really bugs me is a word correction bug for the keyboard, Swype.
Typically with Swype when you see a word that's wrong, you tap it, it becomes highlighted, and a list of suggestions pops up for replacements. If none of the suggested words are correct, you swype it again and it replaces the highlighted word.
However in the email app, the word is not replaced, but another word is inserted wherever the cursor is. Then if you tap elsewhere, you get a word inserted wherever you tapped. So to edit text, you have to manually move the cursor to the end of the word you want to replace, delete it, then re-type or re-swype it.
Anyone else bugged by this? It doesn't happen anywhere else.
for me this happens not only in email, it happens in messages too! as i see it it's some sort of bug which occurs after a while of usage. after a reboot it works again as it should (highlights the selected word, replaces it with the choosen one)...
TML1504 said:
for me this happens not only in email, it happens in messages too! as i see it it's some sort of bug which occurs after a while of usage. after a reboot it works again as it should (highlights the selected word, replaces it with the choosen one)...
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Interesting. I never use Messages (I use Handcent instead) so I've never seen it there. The bug isn't erratic for me; it never works properly in Email.
Edit: Actually I just tested my stock messaging app and I don't have the bug there.
BTW, this bug has persisted from stock whatever was on the phone back at the beginning of November when I unboxed it through now, with LA4 on it.

[Q] Text selection cursor/pointer hidden behind keyboard

Hi,
The text select cursor (the blue pointy thing) gets hidden behind the keyboard when the text I am entering or selecting is just above the keyboard. I've attached a screenshot to illustrate the issue. This wasn't always the case.
Also earlier the drop down with the word suggestions and correction options would stay over the keyboard but now any part of it that flows over the keyboard is hidden behind it. This also wasn't the case earlier. I couldn't replicate the issue for this thread. But I hope was I explained is clear enough.
I'm running the stock ROM on my N4, version 4.3, build - JWR66Y.
Stock keyboard. I dunno what other information I could share.. do let me know.
Thanks a lot for any help.
I've tried searching for a solution for the problem and I've got none. Hope I ran a search the proper way and didn't miss out on another similar thread.
There is a part of the email body missing on top and bottom. It appears that you are zoomed in. Are you using the stock kernel? Have you changed the resolution of the phone? Are you using any of the accessibility settings?
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fernandezhjr said:
There is a part of the email body missing on top and bottom. It appears that you are zoomed in. Are you using the stock kernel? Have you changed the resolution of the phone? Are you using any of the accessibility settings?
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No, I've just typed enough to scroll the screen up a bit. No zooming. No accessibility settings. No custom kernel. Like I said, it's stock.
Ok got you. I just went and tried to replicate this with gmail, as I am using the stock rom and kernel. I basically get the same behavior, except I get no cursor at all. Is that something you enabled somewhere?
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It's got nothing to do with Gmail specifically. I just chose Gmail to illustrate the issue. The same issue / behaviour is exhibited on all apps which have text boxes - messengers, social apps, notes, etc.
The blue pointer cursor won't appear on it's own. You have to tap the text the way you do when you want to move the cursor to a particular point or when you want to select a piece of text.
The cursor shows up upon tapping the text once. From there you can drag it. My point being that it is nearly impossible to drag since 95% of the curson/pointer is hidden behind the keyboard.
Ok, I follow you now. I don't have that problem within none of my apps that use the keyboard. I am rooted but running stock rom, keyboard, and kernel.
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Now see, that's exactly how it used to be for me as well. That's normal behaviour. Hope someone can point out why I'm facing this issue and rectify it.
Thanks for the help.
I am having this exact problem. Is there a way to fix this?
Help
Is there or has there been any updates on this? I ran into the same issue on my 2013 vanilla Moto X. Now I have that issue on my brand new Nexus 6P. I really want to resolve this. Not only is the cursor hidden, but spelling corrections and other items are being hidden. The keyboard I'm using is by SwiftKey, but the results are the same using the Google Keyboard. Help!
Example 1
Example 2
Facing the same issue on my Note 4 rooted with kitkat 4.4.4 on Stock Touchwiz and Xposed. Driving me nuts. Any solution, guys, please help. Tried with multiple Keyboards. Same issue across all apps, not just Gmail. The blue curor just disappears behind the keyboard. In my earlier note 3 the page would scroll down as I keep selecting, here the selection stops upto the keyboard point.
Anyone? Please help......
Update
I have an update on this issue. It's not a solution unfortunately, but it might be a clue for someone.
I was using the Facebook Messenger app earlier, messaging someone in a chat head (the hovering bubble for anyone who doesn't know), and both the cursor and the spelling corrections were on top of the keyboard. Not hidden behind. What does that mean? That's the first time I've noticed those things working properly
Yes in my previous 4.3 Note3 thats exactly how the text selection cursor behaved so I could continue selecting text. In Note4 it goes BEHIND the keyboard and stops selecting further and in fact just disappears. Only the text selected till that point remains highlighted. Need a mod to bring the cursor on TOP of KB instead of behind like Rawk3rSix pointed out. Some expert developer help and input needed....
An update : I tried the stock Email App instead of Gmail app today and to my surprise the issue is not there at all in Email App. Works like a charm. Im able to select text even with the cursor going below the keyboard. Problem solved for now. Something in the Email App which is there or not there in the Gmail App.
In that stock email app, how do the spelling corrections work for you? Are they ok?
I dont really use spelling correction from the stock Email App. I hate autocorrect anyway.
I use Xposed Module TEXT AIDE which serves the purpose anywhere pan-device
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Stock mail app so much better than GMail :
a. Text selection error resolved
b. No forced Conversation View
c. When forwarding a message and trying to edit the forwarding text, no ridiculous ">" symbols before each line
I use Inbox and Outlook for email
The issue wasn't solved for your texting or messaging app though, right? I use Facebook Messenger and Google Messenger
Yes texting not resolved but since text msgs are usually much smaller, I can live with it.
Clue : Apparently this issue surfaced after the last Kitkat update 4.4.4...... Probably may or may not be there in LP/Marshmallow
Is anyone out there?? This issue is getting old and very frustrating =( help!

Anyone getting WACKY voice to text translations using Moto X pure, with Swype &dragon

Anyone getting WACKY voice to text translations using Moto X pure, with Swype &dragon
Interesting problem.
When I use swype and dragon, (my keyboard and voice to text engine) I am starting to get some wildly inaccurate translations of my speech where there were none before.
Around 50% error rate.
Strangely this only happens when I am in my text window (currently using chomp, with a dark night theme), and using the same apps in a gmail message, do not produce the same level of errors, but rather more in the range of 25% errors.
I looked at chomp, and saw no options for any language input, and there do not appear to be a bunch of language input options in swype&dragon either.
I am interested in improving the accuracy, in general. Any ideas on how to do that?
Is there a way to use swype without dragon and use the google default voice recognition instead?
Any ideas? Thanks!
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papamalo said:
Interesting problem.
When I use swype and dragon, (my keyboard and voice to text engine) I am starting to get some wildly inaccurate translations of my speech where there were none before.
Around 50% error rate.
Strangely this only happens when I am in my text window (currently using chomp, with a dark night theme), and using the same apps in a gmail message, do not produce the same level of errors, but rather more in the range of 25% errors.
I looked at chomp, and saw no options for any language input, and there do not appear to be a bunch of language input options in swype&dragon either.
I am interested in improving the accuracy, in general. Any ideas on how to do that?
Is there a way to use swype without dragon and use the google default voice recognition instead?
Any ideas? Thanks!
PM
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I had this issue appear suddenly for a bit and tried everything to fix it. Nothing worked. I was scheduled to have a tech look at my phone and possibly replace the microphone. The issue turned out to be the ROM. I don't know if it was a bad flash or what but things are good now.
papamalo said:
Interesting problem.
When I use swype and dragon, (my keyboard and voice to text engine) I am starting to get some wildly inaccurate translations of my speech where there were none before.
Around 50% error rate.
Strangely this only happens when I am in my text window (currently using chomp, with a dark night theme), and using the same apps in a gmail message, do not produce the same level of errors, but rather more in the range of 25% errors.
I looked at chomp, and saw no options for any language input, and there do not appear to be a bunch of language input options in swype&dragon either.
I am interested in improving the accuracy, in general. Any ideas on how to do that?
Is there a way to use swype without dragon and use the google default voice recognition instead?
Any ideas? Thanks!
PM
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There is no way to use Swype without Dragon. It's the worst thing ever because that keyboard is really great, but Dragon is friggen terrible. Nothing beats Google's voice integration. There used to be an xposed mod for Swype to use Google, but it's long outdated. Until they change that app to allow Google as an option or remove Dragon altogether I will keep my 1 star rating in the Playstore. Honestly though, the latest Google Keyboard is really hard to beat, it's really come a long way. The number row and themes really make it hard to use anything else - not to mention that it's prediction seems to be the best out of all of them now, including Swiftkey.

Software behind the hardware keyboard

So I have found the keyboard to be somewhat fraustrating. Not because it is virtual, but because of the software behind it.
First of all, it is rather strange that you cannot set more than one keybaord. Essentially, the device can have two keyboards that you might regularly swap between: the hardware keyboard and the one screen keyboard one might use while in tablet mode. The hardware keyboard uses the autocorrect of the keyboard you have set as your software keyboard. You cannot set seperate keyboard engines for the hardware and software keyboard.
As I said, the autocorrect/engine behind the hardware keyboard is dependant on your choice of software keybaord. However, as far as I can tell, only the defualt TouchPal keyboard provides any autocorrect for the hardware keybaord. The stock android keyboard offers no autocorrect with the hardware keyboard.
On a related note, TouchPal is awful. The autocorrect works pretty badly and is basically very annoying to use. I won't bore you with the details, but things like autocorrecting to a new word when you go back to edit a mistake. This makes it almost unusable.
Also the touch pad is very bad. No two funger scrolling means that again, it is pretty much useless.
I think the Yoga Book is a great device in most respects. Its intersting that all of these problems relate to the software and could potentially be fixed by Lenovo or there may even be fixes out there now.
Has anyone found any solutions to these problems? Thanks, Liam
I completely agree with you and am having the same frustration with the software behind the keyboard. So far the best solution I have found is to use SwiftKey or Swiftkey Beta (not sure which is best yet). With a bit of tweaking you can get decent auto complete and auto correct using both the halo and on screen keyboard. Much better than Touchpal at least. A couple of issues I have found using Swiftkey and halo keyboard: 1) auto complete seems to turn off when resuming from sleep mode (tapping the keyboard button on the top row reactivates it) 2) in WhatsApp Tablet app, after pressing Enter to send a message, the next message gets double words - I. E. Auto correct adds to what you type, doesn't replace it.
I can confirm that switching to SwiftKey makes the hardware keyboard usable! I'm actually using the keyboard to type this now. Naturally, I'm making tons of mistakes but it is catching and correcting almost all of them!
Can confirm that SwiftKey easily switches between physical keyboard and on-screen keyboard when the physical keyboard is toggled on and off.
If anyone is still using the default software keyboard, switch now!!!
Thanks for the tip! This makes a big difference! Have either of you found a way to get auto capitalise to work? The setting is enabled but it doesn't do anythig.
My issue with SwiftKey is that there is no good ways to select a suggested word. You always have to click with your finger on the screen which completely ruins ten finger typing for my.
So I ended up with disabled word correction as it's faster to remove some mistyped words and type again, than to click on the screen.
How do you handle suggestions made by SwiftKey?
faeArai said:
My issue with SwiftKey is that there is no good ways to select a suggested word. You always have to click with your finger on the screen which completely ruins ten finger typing for my.
So I ended up with disabled word correction as it's faster to remove some mistyped words and type again, than to click on the screen.
How do you handle suggestions made by SwiftKey?
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I have found that SwiftKey enters the main suggested word when I press space. This is good for most of the time, but annoying when:
-I want to select a suggestion that is not the main suggested word (particularly a new word that it doesn't recognise)
-I want to add punctuation directly after the main suggested word (here, because I input the punctuation rather than pressing space, the suggested word is not entered)
I have certainly found using SwiftKey to be the best experience. It's quite a passive autocorrect that doesn't get in the way too much. I got so sick of TouchPal which really gets in your face with its incorrect predictions.
But still there is a lot of room for improvement. It's such a shame that it's terrible software that lets down this keyboard. In particular I don't understand why:
- Some keyboards (like the Google Keyboard) don't offer any correction or prediction when enabled. Does Android maybe treat the Halo keyboard as an external keyboard (which I suppose you wouldn't want predictive features for)?
- Keyboards that do offer prediction don't seem to respond to changes to their settings (I can't get SwiftKey to auto capitalise the first letter of a sentence for example). @thespinner02 mentioned tweaking with SwiftKey settings- I assume they meant for the onscreen keyboard because these settings don't do anything for the Halo keybaord.
I wonder whether there is a keyboard out there in the Play Store that works better with the Yoga Book. I'll try a few and let you guys know if I find one.
I tried several solutions but couldn't find anything good. Hardware keyboards are not that common on Android platform, I guess.
Even using Swiftkey I sometimes get different results depending on the app being used. Auto capitalise is working OK for me, in Word for example.
There are specific options in Swiftkey for Physical Keyboard: in settings, Typing, Voice & Other Input. In Physical keyboard section I have Autocorrect and Auto capitalize on. Everything else off.
thespinner02 said:
Even using Swiftkey I sometimes get different results depending on the app being used. Auto capitalise is working OK for me, in Word for example.
There are specific options in Swiftkey for Physical Keyboard: in settings, Typing, Voice & Other Input. In Physical keyboard section I have Autocorrect and Auto capitalize on. Everything else off.
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Thanks! I didn't notice that- smart spacing etc makes a massive difference!
Pretty much my only problem with SwiftKey now is that it sometimes creates its own weird textbook instead of typing directly into the text field. But that's not a massive problem.
Also I sometimes accidentally change input method. Maybe I'm using a keyboard shortcut by mistake?
thespinner02 said:
Even using Swiftkey I sometimes get different results depending on the app being used. Auto capitalise is working OK for me, in Word for example.
There are specific options in Swiftkey for Physical Keyboard: in settings, Typing, Voice & Other Input. In Physical keyboard section I have Autocorrect and Auto capitalize on. Everything else off.
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In settings for hardware keyword I get no harder key found?
Went into Swift settings in onscreen. How to get settings for Halo?
With Yoga Book in laptop mode. Settings / Language & input / SwiftKey Keyboard / Typing / Voice & Other Input
You also need to make sure 'show input method' is not enabled in the keyboard settings/selector popup.
Does anyone else experience a problem with SwiftKey where in some text fields your text goes into a little popup text box at the bottom of the screen as well as the intended text field? And then to get rid of the popup text box you have to tap 'next'. This occurs in the Facebook messenger app for example.
Any way to disable it?
It seems to do this when the text field is small, but other keyboards just expend the text field as you type. The popup text box it creates doesn't expand anyway, so it doesn't offer extra functionality and is just an annoyance.

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