Wish this damn thing was faster - Galaxy Tab 7.7 General

I have my doubts that it's an exynos processor powering this tablet. Exynos in the galaxy s2 is like lightning. I don't get that feeling with the tab 7.7..wish it had either a faster processor or a quicker one. Yes I concede the screen is larger and that could be the reason but there's just a bit too much lag doing things.. Anyone else feeling the same?
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Couldn't you just have left a comment in the thread below instead opening another complaint thread? The signal to noise ratio is starting to drop off here.

burhanistan said:
Couldn't you just have left a comment in the thread below instead opening another complaint thread? The signal to noise ratio is starting to drop off here.
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Yeah in hind sight I could have..
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wackyD said:
I have my doubts that it's an exynos processor powering this tablet. Exynos in the galaxy s2 is like lightning. I don't get that feeling with the tab 7.7..wish it had either a faster processor or a quicker one. Yes I concede the screen is larger and that could be the reason but there's just a bit too much lag doing things.. Anyone else feeling the same?
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Anyway to answer your question not feeling the same. The S2 is running on Android 2.3 which is lightning even on the older Hummingbird SoC in the gtab 7.0 and galaxy S. HC in general has always felt a bit laggy and choppy even on other SoCs like tegra 2/3. Changing out TW helps a bit but still wont get rid of all the lag that's inherent in 3.0-3.2

Its Touchwiz. Dump it and try ADW EX or something.
Seriously.

Yes as others have said, Honeycomb and TouchWiz is really slowing down the system. For the OS we can't do anything about until ICS comes out. With TW we can replace with other launchers. I had ADW, then tried GO Launcher but thought that was still a bit laggy. Have now gone back to ADW.

Yeah I think honeycomb is the drag on this one..
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The Galaxy Note has the same resolution and the same chipset, but it's running on Gingerbread. And it's very fast.
The blame is on honeycomb. Hopefully ICS will fix it

Fast enough for me. No complaints
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Do we have any info abt the ics eta?
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emprize said:
Do we have any info abt the ics eta?
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I havent heard any mentions yet but the S2 and the Note are getting it probably around March-May

wackyD said:
Yeah I think honeycomb is the drag on this one..
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No, it really isn't. TouchWiz is the culprit here. My 7.7 with ADW EX absolutely FLIES!!!

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
No, it really isn't. TouchWiz is the culprit here. My 7.7 with ADW EX absolutely FLIES!!!
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I agree.
I installed ADW EX and its much much faster going between screens. Still a little lag if you have tons of widgets but nowhere near as laggy as Touchwiz

spridell said:
I agree.
I installed ADW EX and its much much faster going between screens. Still a little lag if you have tons of widgets but nowhere near as laggy as Touchwiz
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Idk, I have a lot of widgets on my three homescreens, and I don't get any lag at all. One screen has my Google+ widgets and 3G watchdog, my main screen has 4 weather widgets and a Citrix widget, and my other screen has two Pulse widgets, Facebook, and Youtube. No lag at all!

JadeEyedWolf..... Do I have to delete the Samsungs TouchWiz widgets off of the Home screens FIRST???
Before I install AWD EX??
Thanks Man!!!

jimmbomb said:
JadeEyedWolf..... Do I have to delete the Samsungs TouchWiz widgets off of the Home screens FIRST???
Before I install AWD EX??
Thanks Man!!!
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Not at all. In fact, if you wanted to, you can run multiple launchers of your choosing (see which one you like most and such) and customize each how you would like. Once you're confident that you prefer one over the others, you can set that as the default, and it should be buttery smooth. Just reboot your device so that the memory used for the other launchers is freed up. When you boot your device, it'll go straight to the launcher of your choosing, and the other ones won't even go into the system memory unless and until you load them.
P.S. If ever you want to go back to any other launcher, you can clear your default setting by going into Manage Applications, finding the launcher you're currently using, and selecting "clear defaults"
Next time you press the home button, it'll ask you which launcher to go to.

Thanks man

@Jade Eyed Wolf
I dont have the tab yet but can you do a simple test for me with ADW Launcher EX in landscape mode... can you put up about 6 widget bookmarks at the size of 1x2 on a home screen and see if the screen animation is still smooth going in and out of that screen.
I hope this is not too much to ask.

ICS ETA Q2 2012? I read that somewhere but can't remember the source.. Why didn't they release this damn thing with ICS? It was a 2012 release for God's sake..
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EarlZ said:
@Jade Eyed Wolf
I dont have the tab yet but can you do a simple test for me with ADW Launcher EX in landscape mode... can you put up about 6 widget bookmarks at the size of 1x2 on a home screen and see if the screen animation is still smooth going in and out of that screen.
I hope this is not too much to ask.
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Like browser bookmarks? My main homescreen already has about 5 widgets as it stands, and it's smooth (4 MyCast weather maps, and on Citrix widget).

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ViBrant Lag/Slowness

So to make my Question short
id like to know to know how well the phone performs after having used for at least 24 hours. I hear People complain about it lagging and being slow when switching homescreens specially if you add TouchWiz3 Widgets????
Im thinking of ordering one but want to hear from you guys. I Really dont support Samsung too much because well, THEY dont support their customers either. They say one thing with updates and promises but at the end they never fullfill their words. Any ideas???
If theres samsung widgets on TW then yes it lags.. I use tw without samsungs widgets and dont get any slowness going on.
I personaly havent seen any slowness yet. But read others do. Maybe im lucky..
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If theres samsung widgets on TW then yes it lags.. I use tw without samsungs widgets and dont get any slowness going on.
I personaly havent seen any slowness yet. But read others do. Maybe im lucky..
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That Truly Sucks. Is it still possible too use stock 2.1 Launcher and not TW like with most android phone?
Yeah you can use Launcher PRO instead.
minogue said:
That Truly Sucks. Is it still possible too use stock 2.1 Launcher and not TW like with most android phone?
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yea just use adw launcher or launcher pro. Fast as can be with either of those. But im digging the TW for now without the widgets...
Awesome. Thanks for the replies. i guess ill be picking one up later around 6pm at T-Mobile Corp. Store.
Only Thing i hate is after playing with nexus one, mytouch slide, HD2, i will be missing the Led Flash which i still wonder why they would not add such feauture.
Kinda makes me think its because they want to launch a new phone not too far away and add Flash so people want to upgrade their current phones to that:/
I am using Samsung Widgets in 3 of 5 my screens with no Lag; I find it curious anyone is having lag unless you have like 20 homescreens packed with widgets. The hummingbird processor in this beast has currently edged out all of the top of the line android phones for CPU speed and it also has the fastest GPU (PowerVR SGX540) as well, offering performance of almost 2x compared to the Evo and Nexus. Lag should not be a happening thing
I have had mine since Friday, used it with TW and samsung widgets without issue, but I like the customization from adw so I have been using that for the last couple days. So far I have no complaints about speed, just hoping the gps and compass issues get fixed soon.
I have 3 widgets, one of them being Buddies now and get very little lag. Only the pause when coming back to the home screen (not always happening)
New owner I have one widget no lag at all.
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No lag here, I was using touchwiz but I prefer the more stock look of adw launcher...
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liquidice007 said:
I am using Samsung Widgets in 3 of 5 my screens with no Lag; I find it curious anyone is having lag unless you have like 20 homescreens packed with widgets. The hummingbird processor in this beast has currently edged out all of the top of the line android phones for CPU speed and it also has the fastest GPU (PowerVR SGX540) as well, offering performance of almost 2x compared to the Evo and Nexus. Lag should not be a happening thing
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I wish I could say the same. I have one widget, feeds and updates, and when it tries to refresh, it lags like hell. If I add the buddies now widget on another screen, just those 2 tw widgets are enough to make this feel like my original mytouch. Very disappointed in the lag.
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I wish I could say the same. I have one widget, feeds and updates, and when it tries to refresh, it lags like hell. If I add the buddies now widget on another screen, just those 2 tw widgets are enough to make this feel like my original mytouch. Very disappointed in the lag.
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Could you describe the lag in more detail? How many screens do you have? What wallpaper are you using? Are those the only 2 widgets you are using? Is the lag a skipping or is the phone not responsive at all? Is it better after a reboot?
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No lag here, I was using touchwiz but I prefer the more stock look of adw launcher...
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I always love ADW because of the options and ESPECIALLY the "Drop to Uninstall" option.
but ADW would be just another program running, using more RAM. less use the better.
Yeah from what I can tell the TWLauncher is pretty light on the battery.
i just got rid of the 7 screens and am just using 1. i am gonna see if this helps with the overall performance of the phone. (from the homescreen> menu (haptic button)>edit> then delete the homescreens to your heart's content . You can always put them back by using the same method
neema said:
Could you describe the lag in more detail? How many screens do you have? What wallpaper are you using? Are those the only 2 widgets you are using? Is the lag a skipping or is the phone not responsive at all? Is it better after a reboot?
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I currently have five screens, one has Weather Widget and battery widget, another has the feeds and updates widget, then 2 widgets for stocks (that only update when i tell them to) and youtube and google search widgets. No live wallpaper either. When adding more TW widgets, swiping screens is slower than my old mytouch.
neema said:
Could you describe the lag in more detail? How many screens do you have? What wallpaper are you using? Are those the only 2 widgets you are using? Is the lag a skipping or is the phone not responsive at all? Is it better after a reboot?
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I was running fine for a couple of days and then I started noticing the lag. Selecting the Settings menu would take a couple of seconds. Camera would take a while. I have also had 3 or 4 freezes and had to reboot my phone. Hardly ever happened on the G1 in two years. Would get a black screen for 3-4 seconds in between operations. No spinner. Initially kept thinking the phone was going to sleep.
I have 5 screens with the buddies widget, 2 picture frames, the double daily time widget and Google Search. Shouldn't be causing this hardware to so much as break sweat. I tried removing all widgets. But it didn't help.
What did help was rooting the phone and running the script to move the apps to NAND. But of course there's a limitation on the number of apps. So far, after doing this, it's much better. I'll see if this holds.
The lags have ruined an otherwise outstanding experience on this phone. I'm very disappointed with this performance on this hardware.
What's interesting here is that it's working well for some of you. Which makes it inexplicable why moving the apps to NAND should make such a difference. If this were a problem with the cache, it should have been a problem on every phone. Don't understand this.
The good news is that almost all of the problems I have with the phone should be software fixable.
When it works well, it truly is an amazing device.
I'm very interested in doing the lag fix but I'm intimidated by the process. Is it worth trying to learn ADB? Or should I wait until September for the 2.2 release?
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I have major lag only when using my corporate email (Exchange active sync). just opening, composing or deleting takes about 5 to 8 sec. Has anyone else experienced this?

[Q] Smoothness... I want more

I just got my TF 6 hrs ago and I am not impressed with how smooth the main screens are when scrolling sideways. It looks like it is stuttering. I want it as smooth as my Pyromod G2.
I was hoping that the 3.1 update fixes this but I just got the update and still stuttering.
Is there any solution other than rooting and overclocking to the max. Is there a launcher settings that I can adjust?
My home screen is really smooth. But I am using regular wallpaper and not the live one.
I guess the first thing to do would be to use the same launcher if it's supported on Honeycomb. I like the HC launcher myself. Every now and then it's a little slow when it first gets going or after being off for a while but nothing that effects usability. I guess the issue might be that you're comparing a hacked, customized and tweaked Android 2.x device moving 800x480 pixels to a whole new unmodified factory OS moving 1200x800 pixels so I would sort of expect it to be a little less optimized from the get go.
I'm running the Primordial 3.1 build right now with the OC kernel at 1.4 GHz and everything just moves right along for me.
So might want to start with apples to apples and go from there.
I noticed my Transformer had started feeling really sluggish and I hadn't even installed much. I was rebooting often and it seemed to help a little for a short time. Then I just removed an application I installed recently and wow, performance was smooth again.
That app was TweetCaster Pro, something I grabbed as a free app of the day from the Amazon Appstore. Don't know if it was just that app or maybe some weird combination that didn't like each other. *shrug* But things are a lot smoother. So it might be worth looking at some of your apps, especially those that install background services that like to look for updates frequently.
ADW EX you won't get any smoother than that
For twitter i use Tweetcomb, totally awesome
LauncherPro also runs really smooth on Tegra devices.
Stock Google launchers typically aren't very smooth, especially on a brand new chipset.
does other launcher show the app icon as big as hc stock launcher? more icon and widget sure will slow down the animation, but I found that by tapping the most left or right side of the screen will take you to other page with faster animation n of course it is smoother
mine is really smooth...probably one of the apps you installed is not getting along well with the honeycomb
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does other launcher show the app icon as big as hc stock launcher? more icon and widget sure will slow down the animation, but I found that by tapping the most left or right side of the screen will take you to other page with faster animation n of course it is smoother
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With ADW EX you can change the size of the icons to any size you want!
Change the icon to any picture.
Change the speed of the animation.
Change the bounce!
The only thing ADW EX doesn't do is hold it for you when you take a leak
I currently have 7 pages 5 of which are full of widgets (and i mean full), no sticking EVER
checkbox111 said:
With ADW EX you can change the size of the icons to any size you want!
Change the icon to any picture.
Change the speed of the animation.
Change the bounce!
The only thing ADW EX doesn't do is hold it for you when you take a leak
I currently have 7 pages 5 of which are full of widgets (and i mean full), no sticking EVER
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nice, I'm going try it then.
Do you need root to use ADW Launcher EX?
ThaiM said:
Do you need root to use ADW Launcher EX?
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no need,just installed adw ex, smooth...
magicpork said:
mine is really smooth...probably one of the apps you installed is not getting along well with the honeycomb
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It was still a virgin TF but it was not meeting my expectations. Maybe because I am used to a smother one.
Anyway, I installed Launcher Pro Plus, (I remember I purchased this before) and the performance improved a little bit. I wonder if the ADW EX is better.
I really don't want to root this TF but I really crave the smoothness that I find in my G2 so I have no choice but to root it when I get my extra Micro SDHC. BTW, does the new ROMS support/Include ASUS MyCloud, MyNet, .. etc.
Also, I've read that Netflix and Yahoo Messenger Video chat isn't fully working yet.
All in all, other than those intangible (software) shortcomings I still like the TF hardware. Softwares will get fixed soon, but crappy hardware will stay crappy forever in the tablet world.
The rooted roms are all up to date and are built using the OTA releases so yea all the asus software is still included
Try turning off the animations.
Live wallpapers murder performance. If you select a static one, your performance will be far better. Next would be widgets; try and keep them to a minimum if you can.
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Try turning off the animations.
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*Daedalus said:
Live wallpapers murder performance. If you select a static one, your performance will be far better. Next would be widgets; try and keep them to a minimum if you can.
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Yeah, it's actually the first thing I did. It did not help.
lacrossev said:
The rooted roms are all up to date and are built using the OTA releases so yea all the asus software is still included
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jerrykur said:
Try turning off the animations.
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Same here, works nicely. Although some apps seem to turn them back on, so I need to back in and (re)set, which sucks.
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Just got the TF dock today. It's really cool, the tablet is transformed!
I haven't played that that much yet but it seems that it doesn't support a USB mouse... or does it??
it should have it...

Venting: Why is the homescreen so laggy?

This seems to be such a common problem for android phones and tablets. Even with deodexed, slimmed, optimized roms and overclocked kernels, it just boggles my mind that the homescreen is the slowest part of the android experience. Other apps scroll smoothly and are responsive, but the homescreen is jerky and slow.
Try this: Long click an icon and drag it around the screen. The thing can't follow even a moderately fast-moving finger. And that's just a simple icon moving on a 2d plane. But then, I can run a playstation emulator in 3d without problems.
The same thing has been true on my G1, SGS, Droid Charge, GTab 10.1, and Moto Droid 1.
Am I missing something?
i dunno mayne its the snap to grid that causes it because flipping back and forth from pane to pane is smooth.
Coming from the transformer, this was the first thing i actually noticed. One thing that would help is to change the default wallpaper to one of your own. It actually improves it significantly
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I have a Xoom on 3.2 and the home screen is really smooth. I have looked at many Touchwiz videos on Youtube and it seems very laggy compared to my Xoom. But i guess i will soon see it in person, just ordered a GT10.1 3G.
Only reason that your tab or phone are laggy on homescreen is due to either wallpaper or widget,
To fix it get wallpaper wizardrii and set to no scroll.
In regards to the icons well notice that you have additional few more effects when you tap and hold icons, there is stransparency, grid etc. If you want to move icons from app dock to homescreen it shows both at the same time, and homescreen is active not paused.
Ios will never be able to do this there is just to much
At the moment my tab is acting really weird.
My wallpaper is scrolling although it should not, screen is absolutely jitter free all that happened since I've activated kies via wifi and deselected usb debugging (needed it to install drivers)
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Can't say mine is laggy at all but I'm not using the stock launcher. The latest "UEKMB" slim Launcher2 with enabled hw acceleration and Multipicture LWP looks and feels extremely smooth. I have no comparison to another Honeycomb Tablet but I can't really see it getting noticeable "smoother".
cryptyk said:
This seems to be such a common problem for android phones and tablets. Even with deodexed, slimmed, optimized roms and overclocked kernels, it just boggles my mind that the homescreen is the slowest part of the android experience. Other apps scroll smoothly and are responsive, but the homescreen is jerky and slow.
Try this: Long click an icon and drag it around the screen. The thing can't follow even a moderately fast-moving finger. And that's just a simple icon moving on a 2d plane. But then, I can run a playstation emulator in 3d without problems.
The same thing has been true on my G1, SGS, Droid Charge, GTab 10.1, and Moto Droid 1.
Am I missing something?
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I have the same problem.... Before the Touchwiz update my homescreen was very laggy, after the update it became less lagy but you can still feel it when scrolling which, I gotta tell you is the most annoying thing... IS there any way to make my homescreen smoother? I've tried wallpaper wizardrii which helped but after awhile the wallpaper cuts in half... I have no more than 5 widgets on my Tab and i'm still amazed on how bad the screen lag is.... I
I'm using ADW Launcher EX, and the screen is super smooth/responsive. The latest version has a high-density option, so we still get the big icons. It's $2 or $3 but it's worth it, and the other thing is to disable the scrolling desktop.
Give it a try. I'm not sure why the stock launcher is so choppy, but they could learn something from the folks who made ADW.
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Side note: My current ROM/Kernal is completely stock. No root, no OC, and ADW is still silky smooth. BUT... it was even smoother when I was running my Tab at 1400 with AutoKiller.
Adw launcher is great. I use it on my Xoom & it makes it fly.Try it on the 10.1 & give us some feedback.
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I see the lag on my Tab that is described by the OP.
However, I do NOT see it on my HTC Thunderbolt phone running Go Launcher EX.
Arun01 said:
Adw launcher is great. I use it on my Xoom & it makes it fly.Try it on the 10.1 & give us some feedback.
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I just finished installing ADW launcher ex and its A LOT smoother than stock, the transition from landscape to portrait view is still a bit droggy but that's probably because of the widgets. I'm loving the new look ADW gave my tablet.
I too was very frustrated with the homescreen lag on my 10.1. I installed ADW Launcher EX and it has been super smooth and givees you some neat options for homescreen transition effects too. Give it a try.
do a search.
Its because Google has little to no interest in fixing the UI/gpu/hw acceleration issues.
Your phone tablet apps launcher etc have nothing to do with it. Its a fundamental issue with Android that has been ignored and no intention of real fix.
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do a search.
Your phone tablet apps launcher etc have nothing to do with it.
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Based on the number of people that just said the stock launcher is laggy, and the aftermarket ones are not, I would say the launcher has quite a lot to do with it.
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Based on the number of people that just said the stock launcher is laggy, and the aftermarket ones are not, I would say the launcher has quite a lot to do with it.
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Who made the stock launcher?... Google...
It is well known that Google cuts corners in relation to standardization and hardware acceleration. Instead the focus on incrementally updating release numbers instead.
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cryptyk said:
Based on the number of people that just said the stock launcher is laggy, and the aftermarket ones are not, I would say the launcher has quite a lot to do with it.
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Lag and framerate drops happen across the ui not just the launcher. It is an Android problem not anything device specific.
I have a standard (scrolling, but not live) wallpaper, 5 widgets and maybe 30 shortcut icons on my desktop/homescreen. Scrolling from one to another is silky smooth (3.1 TW). On one occasion it was quite laggy, it seemed like it had gone from hw accel'd to software for no obvious reason.... Quick reboot fixed it, though.
While it's probably true some performace issues lie with google, I'd wager most problems lie with users and developers doing things badly (or trying to do too much).
I deleted the social hub widget and my homescreen does not lag at all anymore.
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I deleted the social hub widget and my homescreen does not lag at all anymore.
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THIS. Widgets. Remove them.
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Admit you have no real friends.
Remove the social widget.
????
PROFIT!
Mine varies from ROM to ROM. I actually get the smoothest experience on stock 3.1 no TW.

Touchwiz appreciation thread.

Is it just me, or is touchwiz on a tablet actually really nice :L
i know it slows the tab down, but the widgets icons and notification bar r really minimalist and generally not bad looking!
And the fact that stock touchwiz hc roms come with polaris office and a pen memo means that i dont really mind the occasional lag it has :L
Im also looking forward to the ics touchwiz build aswell.
Does anyone agree with me?
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adamski123 said:
Is it just me, or is touchwiz on a tablet actually really nice :L
i know it slows the tab down, but the widgets icons and notification bar r really minimalist and generally not bad looking!
And the fact that stock touchwiz hc roms come with polaris office and a pen memo means that i dont really mind the occasional lag it has :L
Im also looking forward to the ics touchwiz build aswell.
Does anyone agree with me?
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Wow dude. This is bold. I don't totally disagree with you (in fact, I don't have much of an opinion one way or another), but you're definitely in the minority around here... I'll apologize in advance for the nonsense flames you'll get for posting this.
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Wow dude. This is bold. I don't totally disagree with you (in fact, I don't have much of an opinion one way or another), but you're definitely in the minority around here... I'll apologize in advance for the nonsense flames you'll get for posting this.
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Yeah that's the thing though, a while I understand touchwiz on a phone is ugly. On a tablet its actually nice. :L they (samsung) havent done that much in terms of looks with tw, which is gd.
So yeah, bring on the trolls
I don't really see it. I have been using touching HC 3.2 for as long as I have the tablet. I just recently installed touchwiz-less ICS and now never want to go back to touching. I do not miss polarised office at all since it doesn't work with swiftkey tablet x, and ihave replaced pen memo with quill, which was only 20 cents. But I guess tastes are different...
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I don't really see it. I have been using touching HC 3.2 for as long as I have the tablet. I just recently installed touchwiz-less ICS and now never want to go back to touching. I do not miss polarised office at all since it doesn't work with swiftkey tablet x, and ihave replaced pen memo with quill, which was only 20 cents. But I guess tastes are different...
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Fair enough mate.
I can understand why u dont like touchwiz, and i know ics is amazing.
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Well, there are a few things I didn't like about TW:
1. Bright settings menu. The whole tab felt that it should have a dark theme and in most places it did. But then there was the settings menu that feels out of place.
2. The statusbar is annoying. I don't know how often I accidentally made a Screenshot when I didn't want to. Or brought up the pop up bar which contains alps I never use.
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Well, there are a few things I didn't like about TW:
1. Bright settings menu. The whole tab felt that it should have a dark theme and in most places it did. But then there was the settings menu that feels out of place.
2. The statusbar is annoying. I don't know how often I accidentally made a Screenshot when I didn't want to. Or brought up the pop up bar which contains alps I never use.
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Ok yeh i get it about the settings. But the screenshot button is useful. And im sure in the newer versions of tw u can have custom apps in the pop up bar?
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2. Or brought up the pop up bar which contains alps I never use.
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is there a way to change those apps on the pop up bar? That would actually be useful if you could customize that.
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is there a way to change those apps on the pop up bar? That would actually be useful if you could customize that.
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I vaguely remember seeing the gtab 7.7 having the option to edit the pop up bar...
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Ok yeh i get it about the settings. But the screenshot button is useful. And im sure in the newer versions of tw u can have custom apps in the pop up bar?
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Having a Screenshot function available is nice, but I agree. But I prefer the way the ICS Rom I am using implements it: hidden in the power menu. I mean, why would you need it readily available at all times?
Localhorst86 said:
Having a Screenshot function available is nice, but I agree. But I prefer the way the ICS Rom I am using implements it: hidden in the power menu. I mean, why would you need it readily available at all times?
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Im not sure that stock ics has the screenshot function in the power menu. Its only added in later on through custom roms and tweaks such as enabling it in rom control :L
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Yeah, but in the same respect I am not even sure if the things I complain about a HC or TW features
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Yeah, but in the same respect I am not even sure if the things I complain about a HC or TW features
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Haha fair enough. Tbh HC was a bit of a fail on googles part. It felt rushed and ill prepared. Hopefully ics will iron out everything.
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adamski123 said:
Im not sure that stock ics has the screenshot function in the power menu. Its only added in later on through custom roms and tweaks such as enabling it in rom control :L
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nah its there by default in ics
its one of ics main selling points
btw for the record i love touchwiz just because of the extra features like mini apps
the ui hasnt really affected me as i probs only have had my tab with stocktouchwiz theme for about 2 weeks when i got it
BroBot175 said:
nah its there by default in ics
its one of ics main selling points
btw for the record i love touchwiz just because of the extra features like mini apps
the ui hasnt really affected me as i probs only have had my tab with stocktouchwiz theme for about 2 weeks when i got it
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Whoops my bad xD haha yes the calculator and task manager r soo useful
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Honeycomb is a very good concept but a "beta version" software: slow, laggy, unstable and incomplete in several ways... I got my G.Tab 10.1 in January and 2 weeks later I flashed (and kept updated ever since) ICS KANG and loving it.
That said, I do like the added Samsung apps and functionality (on both my Note and my G.Tab 10.1) so as soon as it comes out I will flash Samsung's ICS update.
The Note is already great as it is on the latest LB1 Gingerbread ROM so I don't mind waiting a little more for ICS BUT I really can't wait to get Samsung's ICS ROM for the Tab 10.1 and pretty pissed off that they can't seem to be able to give a less vague date.
I hope they make it up to me by adding the split screen funcionality shown off on the Note 10.1 and a revamped note app which syncs across my Note's S Memo app and Outlook notes..
I think touchwiz on 3.X is amazing, really improves the experience. I cringe whenever I see the stock notification bar (I have to open it, hit settings and then hit settings again to actually open the settings compared to open it and hit settings once in touchwiz).
If touchwiz is that amazing, what's HTC sense? Sense is great on both phones and tabs. Look at the HTC jetstream, HTC did a much better job then Samsung.
I don't mind Touchwiz. I like some of the little extras, etc. Stock Honeycomb is still fugly so TW helps a tad, but since it's so light, not much. ICS is a huge improvement on phones, but not so much in tablets. It's bascially what Honeycomb should have been in the first place.
I'd rather have HTC Sense, but since HTC never had any good wifi tablets last year, it just wasn't in the cards. I will say, the GT 10.1 has been a good tablet and does everything I need it to do, but I won't be buying anymore Samsung products like.... um.... Ever. My next tab will be W8 and probably from Asus or something.
I have never liked HTC Sense at all, Touchwiz is a great compromise between adding functionality and staying as close as possible at the "Android experience" (which keeps on getting better and better). Ideally I would like to have a consistent experience across all Android devices with, at best, "touches" added by the different makers and design and hardware to differentiate among them. Sense goes totally against this.

I hate touchwiz

I seriously hate the entire framework! lol. I want to get an AOSP rom already!
Not being impatient, just saying that touchwiz sucks compared to the android experience
What sucks about it? The custom vibrate for calls? The direct dial from a contract? The option to disable apps that you don't want to run? The ability to hide icons in the app drawer? The motion settings? The customizable lock screen icons? The lock screen weather? The lock screen news? The smart stay feature? The ability to use custom fonts at different sizes? The tap to top feature? Etc........
I really enjoy touchwiz, it just makes everything, shall I say, easier..
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I wouldn't say I hate it, but I'm quite sure I'll use cm9/10 or aokp as a daily driver when they become available. TW is OK, the device runs well but I don't thing more is always better and Samsung definitely packed as many software additions into this phone as they probably saw possible.
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There are a lot of better functions plus the stuff that samsung adds in like s voice pop up play and others. It is also more user friendly but people do not like the interface.. you can always install a launcher though xD
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JamesInsights said:
There are a lot of better functions plus the stuff that samsung adds in like s voice pop up play and others. It is also more user friendly but people do not like the interface.. you can always install a launcher though xD
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Agreed, I like the features but I don't really like the launcher. Nova ftw
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Touchwiz ain't so bad once you put Apex or Nova on top of it
I do have apex installed and it makes things much better. But the UI throughout is not something I really like.
I never thought I would like stock touchwix, besides the launcher I think is pretty good, even has battery percentage without rooting, I can't Care less for s voice is too slow, but the os modifications are good, that being said AOKP still my favorite
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I was actually impressed by the fluidity of TW on my GSII, but seriously, it's so ugly. I think compared to sense, it's less laggy, but it's really a cartoonland nightmare.
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I was actually impressed by the fluidity of TW on my GSII, but seriously, it's so ugly. I think compared to sense, it's less laggy, but it's really a cartoonland nightmare.
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I guess this is my main hatred towards it. The design kinda sucks. It feels way to busy
I don't mind TouchWiz (I'm a child at heart), but I tried out Nova, and now my GSIII is "Boss" You want a awful Skin? Try MOTOBLUR. I'll never touch another Motorola phone again. Bloatware central for me.
Phone from old:
Motorola Defy W/MOTOBLUR.
I hear you. I was stoked for the extra features it had had and was excited that people said it was pretty close to stock ics. After running ics on my captivate I need pure android back ASAP lol...
Changing the launcher etc helps make it liveable though.
DAMNIT I CANT WAIT FOR PURE JELLYBEAN
I've tried Nova, Apex, Go, and none of them compare to TW when it comes to speed and fluidity. I prefer the look and customizations of either of those over TW but TW just flat out performs!
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I've tried Nova, Apex, Go, and none of them compare to TW when it comes to speed and fluidity. I prefer the look and customizations of either of those over TW but TW just flat out performs!
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I completely disagree. There is no noticeable difference in the performance between launchers.
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I completely disagree. There is no noticeable difference in the performance between launchers.
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You can disagree all you want, that doesn't change what my experience was on my phone. TW is head and shoulders more smooth, fluid and fast. The only way I was able to get either of them close to TW in those departments was using Nova, but even then I had to have the speed set to "faster than light" and power saving mode had to be turned off....TW is smoother, faster and more fluid with power savings on compared to any of the launchers I've tried.
I like tochwiz. It's much better than Sense was on my Evo OG. Then again, I've always preferred stock plus root. It seems like none of the launchers or ROMs work as they should.
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You can disagree all you want, that doesn't change what my experience was on my phone. TW is head and shoulders more smooth, fluid and fast. The only way I was able to get either of them close to TW in those departments was using Nova, but even then I had to have the speed set to "faster than light" and power saving mode had to be turned off....TW is smoother, faster and more fluid with power savings on compared to any of the launchers I've tried.
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You use your phone with power saving mode turned on? :S
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You can disagree all you want, that doesn't change what my experience was on my phone. TW is head and shoulders more smooth, fluid and fast. The only way I was able to get either of them close to TW in those departments was using Nova, but even then I had to have the speed set to "faster than light" and power saving mode had to be turned off....TW is smoother, faster and more fluid with power savings on compared to any of the launchers I've tried.
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I disagree. Your signature is annoying as well. Maybe size it to something other than obnoxious.
I love tw. I haven't even thought about installing a replacment launcher let alone installing a custom rom. Its so smooth! Then again in coming from motoblur..
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