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Screen "scratchability"

Some of you people may find this gayish but I am worried about how "scratchable" is the screen?
Ok, I can live with the fingerprints, simply wiping the device from time to time, but having some scratches on that marwellous screen would be a real disaster.
So far I can rank some devicer in terms of hardness of their screens' plastic:
1) iPhone (some kind of glass or smth.. hard to scratch)
2) HTC Diamond / PRO (plastic, but pretty hard though)
3) SE Xperia X1 (plastic, but i get the feeling of nearly scratching it with my nails)
So, where would you guys think the Touch HD would be?
PS: while answering, please omit alternatives of using screen protection film. Looks ugly and the efects a very manufacturer-dependant.
Thank you.

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gayish...???

gayish...??? what is that???

Not sure how you can expect accurate feedback on this (i.e actual resistance to scrathing rather than just a feeling) without someone actually testing it (possibly accidently) on thier lovely new gadget
Also:
"PS: while answering, please omit alternatives of using screen protection film. Looks ugly and the efects a very manufacturer-dependant."
To be honest, a well designed and well applied screen protector is practically invisible (imho). Particularly with flush devices, since you don't get the edge around the recess.
I just applied one to the wife's iPhone a couple of months back and she did not even notice it. But she also dropped the phone the other day and I think it's time to order a new protector. Perhaps the screen would have survived scratch free, but I'd rather not take that chance
Zuber

Just my thoughts, Zuber.
A good screen protector, applied carefully, with patience! is a great thing! I use the Javoedge screen protectors and they are excellent. Doesnt even feel as if its there!
Just put one on my wife's iPhone yesterday, and there is no difference between using the device with the screen protector, and its not looking one bit different to "without" it.

I've tried the GadgetShieldz for my HTC Touch HD and it's really good, it installs quite fast and I paid $13.50 for two units. I will be testing my keys on it later today. Check it out:
http://www.gadgetshieldz.com/smartphones-pda.html
Nails will definitely not dent it!

scratchable
I scratched my screen after about a week. Best I can figure is it was on a metal rivet in my jeans just above my pocket... the scratch drives me crazy. I bought a replacement screen cover for about $20 and I'm waiting for the weekend to install it. There are many examples of these on ebay, here is one.

Dont' have a lab that can do experiment and tell you the hardness....but one thing for sure, HTC screen is scratch resistant. Had it for 6months, kept my screen sparkling clean all the time by cleaning it with microfibre cloth everyday. Till now, not a single scratch can be seen...happy with it!
Was in a Mac shop once, the iPhone sales person demonstrated the hardness of iPhone sceen by scratching with a pair of Scissors. Any dude dare try this on THD???
All that I've done so far is to take a coin and scratch a THD dummy display set in the shop. Absolutely no issue.....and I believe the dummy screen is the same as the real device.

mlekas said:
I scratched my screen after about a week. Best I can figure is it was on a metal rivet in my jeans just above my pocket... the scratch drives me crazy. I bought a replacement screen cover for about $20 and I'm waiting for the weekend to install it. There are many examples of these on ebay, here is one.
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Ouch! I'm very careful when placing my THD in pocket....may not be the same the next time I take it out!

try the zagg invisible shield..looks amazing and of good price. I am ordering one right now!

georgegeneva said:
I've tried the GadgetShieldz for my HTC Touch HD and it's really good, it installs quite fast and I paid $13.50 for two units. I will be testing my keys on it later today. Check it out:
http://www.gadgetshieldz.com/smartphones-pda.html
Nails will definitely not dent it!
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hey,
seems you applied the GadgetShieldz on your HD. how it looks, is it scratch free?
regards

Zagg
I just bought my wife an iphone (2nd hand) which came with a Zagg shield (the whole phone not just the screen). Amazing stuff, seems unscratchable. The only thing with the full body shield is that it is impossible to get on 100% perfectly.....still....it's staying on and after a year (that's how old the phone is) the shield doesn't have a mark on it. There's a youtube video of someone scratching an iphone up with a set of keys and then attempting the same on one with a shield. Check it out...I was impressed.

Cracked screen - screen protector

Hi all, I cracked the screen on my HD2 a few days ago and have been eagerly reading the reports of how to replace the digitiser, etc. I'm working up the courage (and getting the tools) to do it, but in the meantime the digitiser and screen are perfectly functional, if a little bit unsightly. I thought I'd get hold of a screen protector in the meantime so I don't end up with bits of glass in my fngers, etc. Any recommendations of a form fitting protector (or form fitting case) that would fit the bill? Ideally it would cover the bezel around the buttons too, because one corner of it is quite chipped. The pics on ebay are kind of hard to tell from. Any advice much appreciated!

I might be too late as you mentioned that you already getting the tools to fix it yourself. There are specialty repair shops that fix screens, I heard they are not too expensive. I don't know the exact price, but someone with a broken nexus one got his phone fixed this way. Do you mind telling how you cracked your screen, was it your negligence or is it too fragile?

I'm not looking for info about how to repair - I've read those threads. I'm interested in the best temporary fix for the meantime.
The cracked screen is largely due to negligence... dropped it outside. Woulda been nice if the phone was a little more sturdy, but can't expect much better. And thank God it still works just fine as far as I can tell. Gonna be more careful now...

People without screen protector

Hey was wondering how is the screen holding up. Do you guys having any scratches on them or anything? I'm debating on whether to take mine off

It's a very tough screen, mine is still in mint condition w/o a screen protector, but I never leave any sharp objects such as keys in the same pocket as my phone either.

No scratch at all, looks like new... (other than the rest of the device).
And I never used any "protective" thingies.

Cambxo said:
Hey was wondering how is the screen holding up. Do you guys having any scratches on them or anything? I'm debating on whether to take mine off
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I've had my HD2 for 14 months and there are no scratches on it at all. When I first got it I saw the well known youtube vid of a guy trying to scratch his HD2 screen and failing. One night I was drunk and decided to show this to a mate, so I took a bottle cap and went to work with my screen, as hard as I could! We were both very impressed at the results (or lack of), but I noticed not long after that you could see where I had scratched it when I'd run my finger over it. If I wiped it clean then you couldn't see it at all. It was VERY feint, but it was there when smudged.
However, it's now 100% disappeared, even after major use.
I used to have a screen protector, but no longer bother. It's obviously always recommended not to put your phone in your pocket with keys & loose change etc., but this screen is THE BEST screen I've ever had on a phone.
I think it only needs a minimum of common sense and it will live for a looooooooooooong time!

Took mine off month ago, and very happy I did. It did nothing but lessen screen sensitivity and slightly dull viewing.
The glass on the screen can't withstand every stracth known to man, but it's pretty tough. Usually, the people with really messed up glass dropped theirs and the glass BROKE.
Here's the scratch test video and here's another thread about this where others share their thoughts and experiences.

I have just avoided putting in the same pocket as my keys, so far so good.

Wow that's pretty cool. I think I'm still going to keep one on though. To me its sort of like insurance. I may not need it often, but when I do, I sure will be glad I have it!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

dung8604 said:
Wow that's pretty cool. I think I'm still going to keep one on though. To me its sort of like insurance. I may not need it often, but when I do, I sure will be glad I have it!
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AHHH!!! They really need to move that damn thanks button, but thanks for that
To be honest, if it gives you peace of mind and doesn't have an adverse effect (sensitivity & brightness mainly) then yeah, keep it on.

I have my HD2 about 1,5 years now, and the screen didn't have a scratch at all. Unfortunately the back plate loses it clear finish, but that's acceptable.

Almost a year and no scratches whatsoever. I do keep it in a case whenever I am carrying it around, though. The only wear I can see at all are some indentations in the material on the top right corner of the handset.

Hi,
Got a cover, no scratch at all, like many people, i don't mix keys/smartphone screen, the best way to damage it !

almost a year and no scratch at all. I must say I guard it with my life.
it never leaves my sight and is always in it's original leather pocket.

I had a HTC Touch Cruise before and it was a plastic restitve touchscreen.
Even that thing was okay and usable after 3 years... It had many deep scratches but with backlight on you only saw them a bit and it wasnt a problem for the usability
The screen of the hd2 really needs some effort to get scratched. In my opinion a screen protector is useless, because the power that is needet to scratch this screen would easily cut the protector
But i also use the barely there case, to avoid scratches on the housing (put some tape on the corners to avoid damage from case on/off). The screen protector that was with this case gives me a better feeling on the touchscreen, its easier to glide ^^ and i dont have so many fingerprints

^^^
Fingerprints can be easily removed, you know
Mine is over 9 months old, still as good as new .
My secret is "The Magical Original Leather Pouch"
It never gets out of it, unless I want to use it

Is the camera lens cover made from the same material? Does it resist scratches as well as the screen?

I also don't use a screen protector. My phone is kept in a leather belt pouch, but is handled delicately (partially because it is expensive and partially because it is such a beautiful phone).

Got my TMOUS HD2 when they first came out, and screen is still perfect. I do keep it in a pocket by itself though, so no contact with keys or change.

Ive had mine around 14 months now, never used a protector and there's no problems at all with my screen. This is even after I stopped using the leather pouch a few months ago after getting an extended battery and even after dropping the phone a few times!

Almost one year without screen-protector and without case.
Not only one scratch on the screen.

I have two scratches on the screen, but you have to make effort to see them.
I took it to a sandy beach to read books every day all summer long, no protection whatsoever.
It's a great phone.

Another screen broken advice needed

Hello all,
I bought a Galaxy S4 for my partner, and stupidly didn't get it insured.
The screen got cracked quite badly, so fr £120 a local lad put a new screen on. Later that week it got dropped onto mud on the way to nursery and smashed entirely.
I now have a predicament, either give up the phone and go back to my sluggish s3, or ask you guys this question:
Where is the best and most value for money place to get a smashed screen fixed (you can't see anything just a rim of light) somewhere reputable that will use genuine parts and guarantee their work? I really don't want to just leave it on the shelf and am worried that without good advice I will end up with another shabby repair.
Your input would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks and Happy Christmas,
Ric

If you only break the front glass like what happened to mine, you can get new glass for £5 and DIY. (If you're confident working on things like that - it is a bit of a nightmare of a job to separate the glass from the touch sensor)
But if there's no picture on the screen at all then you've killed it completely. A new full screen assembly is about £90 on eBay I think, so £120 is about the right price for someone to do it for you.
BTW, the first time you broke your screen, if you could still see the picture on the screen was fine, then the guy probably charged you £120 to change the £5 front glass. I've heard of people getting ripped off like that.
Most of the time it is just the front glass that is broken. Unfortunately this latest time, it sounds like you've been unlucky.
You could always take out phone insurance, leave it a couple of months, and then the screen breaks.

knuckles1978 said:
If you only break the front glass like what happened to mine, you can get new glass for £5 and DIY. (If you're confident working on things like that - it is a bit of a nightmare of a job to separate the glass from the touch sensor)
But if there's no picture on the screen at all then you've killed it completely. A new full screen assembly is about £90 on eBay I think, so £120 is about the right price for someone to do it for you.
BTW, the first time you broke your screen, if you could still see the picture on the screen was fine, then the guy probably charged you £120 to change the £5 front glass. I've heard of people getting ripped off like that.
Most of the time it is just the front glass that is broken. Unfortunately this latest time, it sounds like you've been unlucky.
You could always take out phone insurance, leave it a couple of months, and then the screen breaks.
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ha, the first time the phone broke, my misses threw it against a metal door obliterating the top and matrix thingy so an extensive repair was required. I'm well aware of the £5 DIY jobby hairdryer thing but this second breaking is again both screens, and I don't want a shabby repair I want the original screen part so that it is as strong as it can possibly be. I paid this guy £120, but the screen was so weak it broke dropping on mud! SO I still need to know, where can I get it fixed with genuine Samsung parts? Samsung only? Are the any reputable companies members would use to have their £500 phones repaired?
Thanks to the guy that replied I can't see your name now I'm replying somehow...

In pretty sure there aren't any fake AMOLED screens, not like phones that use LCD - there are hundreds of fake LCD's for those phones. But there are fake front glass panels.
If I wanted to make sure that genuine parts were used I'd order the screen assembly up from eBay myself. You can order it up as a complete front assembly from eBay, and it's a very easy job to change the whole thing over yourself, if you're reasonably confident about tackling things like that. Just make sure it's described as 'Genuine Samsung', and not 'Samsung panel genuine for i9505' or suchlike. If it's described as 'Genuine Samsung', then you have comeback of its not.
I've fixed a good few phones though, and all the times I've ordered parts as I've described above, it has been the real deal. It's pretty easy to tell the fake front glass panels.
Changing the front glass only with hairdryer etc is a sh!tty job, but changing a whole front panel which has the chrome effect plastic trim piece, AMOLED, touch sensor, and front glass already assembled is a piece of p!ss...

I would totally recommend just getting it fixed... plenty of tutorials online to follow. Watch a few of them and see if it is something you are comfortable doing yourself. I've done it and found it to be quite simple. But, it all depends on your comfort level with repairing things...

I think getting it fixed is the idea, yes lol
I was saying though that since it's the whole thing that is broken and needs changed, and not just the front glass, the job is much easier. It's just a case of taking a few screws out and swapping the whole front assembly. On a difficulty rating out of 10 I give it a 4
If you watch a couple of videos on YouTube first, and you take it nice and carefully, I'd say this is a job that most people could handle.

LG V20 screen replacement!!!!!

Hey guys. I recently broke my LG V20 (AT&T varient.) It is just the top screen and not tbe LCD Digitizer. The 2nd screen is completly fine and its the main screen that's broken. Does anybody know a good tutorial and a good source to get tbe part ASAP?
Thanks in advanced.

velezj.att said:
Hey guys. I recently broke my LG V20 (AT&T varient.) It is just the top screen and not tbe LCD Digitizer. The 2nd screen is completly fine and its the main screen that's broken. Does anybody know a good tutorial and a good source to get tbe part ASAP?
Thanks in advanced.
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Look up Jerry rig everything his YouTube channel has it all

velezj.att said:
Hey guys. I recently broke my LG V20 (AT&T varient.) It is just the top screen and not tbe LCD Digitizer. The 2nd screen is completly fine and its the main screen that's broken. Does anybody know a good tutorial and a good source to get tbe part ASAP?
Thanks in advanced.
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As someone else said,youtube.
In the amount of time waiting for a reply, you could have just Googled the question.
And, the second screen, I do believe, is a single physical screen, partitioned by software. If one is trashed, both are I believe.

Thank you. I understand Youtube and Google. The problem with that is there are only like 3 videos, and each video the process is slightly different. When I try and search for the part, I find the glass/LCD digitizer ranging in price from $100-130. This is fine but the problem is I don't want to wait a few weeks to receive it, since all of the places I've found that sell it can't do expedited shipping, and if they do, they are all sold out. Lastly, I also found JUST the top layer of glass (no not a tempered glass protector, the actuall replacement) for only around $10-$20 in price, but there are ZERO videos on Youtube for that process, and a few people in the comments have even asked about this, with no luck.

A combo of multiple things....
This is a relatively new phone. Won't be lots of how tos available for one.
Second, what you are asking about is not a simple fix.
It requires either extreme cold such as, liquid nitrogen or 90% alcohol and dry ice cold. Or extreme heat. You either embrittle the glue with cold and peel it off in pieces or soften via heat and pull it loose in pieces. You run risk of killing your digitizer. Plan ahead accordingly.
You also *will* kill the polarizing layer in between digitizer and glass. Be prepared to replace this as well. Anyone who says otherwise is fibbing, IMO.
Then, you need something to remove the bubbles from the LOCA glue and gorilla glass sandwich.
Then reassemble.
Again: with the phones age, and a small supply chain in place due to the devices age, don't expect much in the way of how tos, or parts.
tl;dr
Not a simple fix. Chances are high you wont get it back to stock without a good technique and some moderately expensive tools.
Edited to add... There's a reason you find very few glass sellers, and lots of people selling digitizer/glass combos. .. The odds of a ****ed job are sky high, esp with phones with curved glass, like Samsung garbage.

On my V10 my front screen had cracked. Rather than try to replace just the digitizer I bought a dead V10 on eBay and replaced the full screen housing from that phone with my motherboard. Much easier to replace full screen assembly if you can find that way.
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I have a v20 Sprint..My Screen Is Cracked Some What At The Top..Will That Crack Cause The Phone To Freeze Up?
like Sometimes The Phone FREEZE BAD but when i press the screen I can still Hear The Sounds from the apps

velezj.att said:
Hey guys. I recently broke my LG V20 (AT&T varient.) It is just the top screen and not tbe LCD Digitizer. The 2nd screen is completly fine and its the main screen that's broken. Does anybody know a good tutorial and a good source to get tbe part ASAP?
Thanks in advanced.
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https://www.fixez.com/store/lg/lg-v-series/lg-v20

Fixez - LG V20 Screen with Frame
Just thought I would "help" other LG V20 owners; but I just finished replacing the screen on mine after dropping it on the concrete floor in the parking garage at work. It actually landed face down and I had a crappy Incipio case, so it was a spiderweb of cracks although it still ran fine for 3 months until the lines got thicker and thicker.
Anyway, I ordered a replacement Screen with Frame from Fixez.com and just know that it is NOT OEM or even close. I got my phone working; but just some notes for anyone else who finds this and tries to replace the screen themselves.
Most YouTube videos out there are NOT accurate and you will end up having to "move" extra parts they do not show.
I got the FRAME replacement; but I think it would have been BETTER without because all the tiny pieces are GLUED onto the frame.
You MUST have the tools, especially that tweezer one and get a Hair Dryer, because the parts are TINY and GLUED so easier to loosen.
I broke the Headphone Jack, because the connectors are basically membranes, which is why I think you should just replace SCREEN.
I forgot to clean my front facing camera; but I cleaned the two rears ones, so just make sure you "alcohol and air spray" clean before closing.
It is beyond blurry and I do not want to take it apart; but it could actually be the "low quality" peephole, which is creating "flare and blur".​
Once I finished and turned it on, I was overjoyed; but after a week I can "see" more problems and just be aware that you really need OEM.
Problems:
Secondary Screen does not "show" when Main Screen is OFF; but it worked with original screen once option enabled.​The top part is not white-white; but just a "hair off" and it is like an "oval thumb circle" and might have been "touched" during manufacture.​Put some Arctic Silver CPU compound; because this "knock off" runs HOTTER and the first few boots felt like a "burn in" sequence.​There is no LG Logo at the bottom of the screen; so if you decide to "sell" it later, then it will be obvious that you are selling "refurbished".​The battery seems to drain faster; but I also noticed it does not "like" a FULL charge and runs nice and cold when lower battery charge.​Headphone jack broken. Does not light up when I look at screen. Sometimes "double tap" (KNOCKON) does not work correctly.​Sometimes I have to press Power Button twice to turn on screen. Sometimes it is once. Basically "sensors or integration" seem to have issues.​I just miss how the "little things" used to work perfectly, even when it was cracked.​
Basically, this screen feels like a cheap Chinese "knock off"; but I went for the "cheapest option" I found out there and you get what you pay for, so it works, but I hope this helps someone else out there to make an informed decision. Remember, Fixez (and ALL OTHERS) have a NO RETURN policy; because basically they state that it must be in NEW RESELLABLE condition and you are going to be sticking things, bending wires and removing plastic tabs. So do not listen to anyone and these repair shops will NOT return your money once you try to DIY.
If I had to do it again, then I would have spent more time looking for a screen with the LG Logo and at least try to get something with some OEM "guarantee or promise"; which Fixez NEVER made and I just went for Low Price and USA Based. Might have been better to get something OEM from Asia; because I got ganked anyway and I suspect this screen is going to shorten the lifespan of what was a beautiful LG V20 - H918 from T-Mobile.
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Does anyone know how to find a decent quality replacement of the glass and digitizer? I'll certainly keep the ease of 'no frame' in mind. I would like an oem product for sure. But I want my phone back asap, so I'll take what I can get