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Samsung Galaxy S2.. on at&t!

This just in:
Original news link:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/13/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-hits-the-fcc-potentially-ready-for-atandt-3g/
FCC Link:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...e=N&application_id=273771&fcc_id='A3LGTI9100'
I'd be really happy if it does come on at&t bands because all of Canadia works on the same bands

that doesnt mean anything.. the stock sgs ii has att bands and just becuase it is going through fcc approval doesnt mean it is att requesting the approval.. could just be samsung getting it approved as it does all its phones.

Either way he can use it just fine, so it's a lot to get excited about

he could use it without fcc's approval...
also engadget was really slow this is friday's news
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gal...mode_i708_prototype_hit_the_fcc-news-2412.php
what did you think? ffc doesn't work on sundays

Well I for one happy about this.
I held out for waiting for the atrix, but in the end it just wasn't enough for me. I have a captivate and have enjoyed having it rooted and running froyo way before AT&T and sammy got off their ass.

i fully expect the s2 to have all the same bands that the galaxy s1 had, and the omnia hd also had, the same quadband coverage, dont expect anything to change here. because they are the most widely used bands, perfect for an international model.

Oh man, this is getting harder and harder.
Is going to be either SGS2 or iP5.
So difficult.

i still believe S2 will be compatible to all providers, like S1,,
make the base of fight with ip5,,
using tegra2 to ensure the quantity for sale ,, which makes sense.

This was known for a while now, that the Galaxy S 2 wwould work on ATT 3G bands. What is not known is whether ATT will pick up the phone or not.
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They would be fools not to pick it up.
Phones are just bait to get and keep subscribers. The phone should be a great device.

If this is a AT&T only phone, there is no justice in the world.

The international version works on AT&T.
Even if some US Carriers carry it, it will suck in comparison. Look at the Captivate/Vibrant compared to the i9000.

Yeah, that is true.
If AT&T does get they will probably request that sammy retard the phone some how. Like taking away some of the radios or no front facing camera.
I'm hoping they wont do that this time, but they probably will find some way to screw it up.

Agreed! I won't ever buy a AT&T retarded phone again, if there is an international one available I will pay extra for it. Like the Captivate vs i9000.

lgkahn said:
that doesnt mean anything.. the stock sgs ii has att bands and just becuase it is going through fcc approval doesnt mean it is att requesting the approval.. could just be samsung getting it approved as it does all its phones.
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vista1984 said:
i still believe S2 will be compatible to all providers, like S1,,
make the base of fight with ip5,,
using tegra2 to ensure the quantity for sale ,, which makes sense.
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I completely understand if you guys didn't dig into FCC documents to read what they said, I don't blame you, but just to clarify, the device passed is an 850/1900 ONLY phone, meaning it can only be for AT&T or Canadian carriers.
Other versions will likely be released, but the version that passed FCC is not going to work on other US carriers.
MikeyMike01 said:
The international version works on AT&T.
Even if some US Carriers carry it, it will suck in comparison. Look at the Captivate/Vibrant compared to the i9000.
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We'll have to see if they strip out features again. FFC is a must, and I don't think they'll strip that out. I think they took that out last time because the network wasn't ready for video calling. They wanted HSPA+ prior to letting people use video calling. Other phones AT&T sells have an FFC now, so I don't think the SGS2 will be any different.
Other than that, what, FM radio and no HSUPA? AT&T SAYS they are going to start rolling out HSUPA, we'll see, if not I'm sure a radio swap with an international version will work again. And FM radio would be a nice addition, but I certainly won't make a decision on a phone over it. I can always use TuneIn and iheartradio if I really want to listen to my ****ty local stations. Oh, and a flash on the camera. That one actually may sway my decision to buy it if they don't include a flash. That was one of the stupidest things I've seen, but I found that I don't care about flash for pictures as much as I do for a flashlight. Most cell phone pictures taken with flash look like crap anyway.
I would go for an international version if they were at least somewhat reasonable in price, but I'm not paying $700-800+ USD for an international version.
Anyway, I hope they will hurry up. I have an upgrade that I'm itching to use!

AJerman said:
I would go for an international version if they were at least somewhat reasonable in price, but I'm not paying $700-800+ USD for an international version.
Anyway, I hope they will hurry up. I have an upgrade that I'm itching to use!
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Why not? Use your upgrade + $199 to buy an Iphone5, sell it for ~$600, pay <$300 out-of-pocket for the international version. The latest details are $700 and a May date from the other thread.

madgraph said:
Why not? Use your upgrade + $199 to buy an Iphone5, sell it for ~$600, pay <$300 out-of-pocket for the international version. The latest details are $700 and a May date from the other thread.
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Because I don't want to spend that much on a phone right now. I just bought an iPad 2 as my latest toy, so I have to limit myself. Depending on the cost on AT&T, I'm up for upgrade price plus $50 off. If it hits a $200 price point again I can probably get it for $150. We don't even know what will be different between the two yet.

AJerman said:
I just bought an iPad 2 as my latest toy,
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I'm sorry.
Sent from my Captivate

But will the international version allow us to have HSPA+ on ATT? Or just 3G?

andrew53517 said:
But will the international version allow us to have HSPA+ on ATT? Or just 3G?
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HSPA+, fully unlocked

Samsung Galaxy S II "confirmed" for Verizon in July

According to PhoneArea a Verizon spokeswomen has confirmed that they will be launching the Samsung Galaxy S II sometime next month.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-confirmed-for-July-touch-down-at-Verizon_id19421
I'm sure AT&T will probably release it around the same time (if not sooner).

This is shocking...
"Although the phone will not be enabled for the LTE 4G network, it probably won't matter to potential buyers as the device has already proven itself to be speedy over 3G pipelines."
What's the purpose of launching a state-of-the-art phone that doesn't run on your state-of-the-art network? Hell, with EVDO, it'll be the slowest of the three U.S. SGS2 variants assuming it's Wi-Max on Sprint and 4G and/or LTE on AT&T. Why carry the phone at all?

Oh well, I don't even have 4G coverage here. By the time I do, I'll probably already be getting a new phone.
Also while I don't put much stock what an email from a Verizon spokesperson says, at least Verizon acknowledges the phone and it will at least come out eventually. I hope it really does come out in July though.

At least it will work on ATT's fake 4G HSPA+.
To work on Verizon's LTE would require a big redesign.

Meets34 said:
At least it will work on ATT's fake 4G HSPA+.
To work on Verizon's LTE would require a big redesign.
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I thought it was supposed to be AT&T's first LTE phone? I read that online somewhere but can't find it now. AT&T was also supposed to be the first to launch so maybe the hold up is getting the LTE radio working. AT&T's LTE network is supposed to light up in a couple of weeks and they still have nothing that can run on it. Yet they're introducing a slew of high-end devices that work on a network that's outdated. Strange.
P.S. - Now that I think about it, it may be the combination of CDMA and LTE that prompted VZW and Samsung to skip LTE. That will still be strange though if Sprint's variant ends up being CDMA/Wi-Max.

BarryH_GEG said:
I thought it was supposed to be AT&T's first LTE phone? I read that online somewhere but can't find it now. AT&T was also supposed to be the first to launch so maybe the hold up is getting the LTE radio working. AT&T's LTE network is supposed to light up in a couple of weeks and they still have nothing that can run on it. Yet they're introducing a slew of high-end devices that work on a network that's outdated. Strange.
P.S. - Now that I think about it, it may be the combination of CDMA and LTE that prompted VZW and Samsung to skip LTE. That will still be strange though if Sprint's variant ends up being CDMA/Wi-Max.
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Adding the LTE radio and chipset would probably require redesigning the phone. The current LTE phones are really big and thick.

Meets34 said:
Adding the LTE radio and chipset would probably require redesigning the phone. The current LTE phones are really big and thick.
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Bad for AT&T but good for all of us who imported a non-branded SGS2. I assumed that AT&T's LTE version was going to make our phones (at least in the U.S.) outdated. If it ends of being the same phone with AT&T "enhancements" it makes our decision (and the price) worthwhile.

Excuse my ignorance, but what are the chances of the carriers making the phone better? I don't know how, just asking.
I don't know if i should just wait to see the differences with the ATT version or just buy the unlocked one now

MrLeon said:
Excuse my ignorance, but what are the chances of the carriers making the phone better? I don't know how, just asking.
I don't know if i should just wait to see the differences with the ATT version or just buy the unlocked one now
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well there's always the chance you can get a nice cold refreshing glass of lemonade in Hell...

MrLeon said:
Excuse my ignorance, but what are the chances of the carriers making the phone better? I don't know how, just asking.
I don't know if i should just wait to see the differences with the ATT version or just buy the unlocked one now
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Very close to zero. They will just add bloatware.
The only good thing is the subsidized price.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/08/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-said-to-be-verizon-bound-in-july/
damn engadget says they were talking about the New galaxy tab :\

boondoc said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/08/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-said-to-be-verizon-bound-in-july/
damn engadget says they were talking about the New galaxy tab :\
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Just saw that as well. LAME!!

Yep, can never trust those spokesperson emails. God damn.

Thank goodness it's for the tab I'm not eligible until 9/4/2011
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You guys need to realize JUST how hard it is to design and properly tune for LTE bands. I work in antenna design, and I can tell you it takes quite a bit to tune the noise down on the LTE frequencies. Add that to the fact that antenna real estate is already extremely tight in an ultra thin device like the SGSII (especially when taking GSM, WIFI, bluetooth, and GPS into account), the only way to get LTE in would be to have one/several of the other bands to suffer AND/OR make the device much, much thicker.
Until active antenna solutions are more readily available, this will continue to be a problem with passive antenna design, especially with small form factor devices like mobile phones.
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Hands on an ATT Note

I checked to see if anyone had posted this but didnt notice any other threads. A guy over at the skyrocket forum got his hands on an ATT note to take some pics and run some benchmarks. Im satisfied with the results and will be picking up on launch day. Please dont make this thread, "Oh my exynos is better than your snapdragon" yeah we know. And your house is bigger, wife is hotter, car is faster, and your... Ill stop there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462622

imitenotbecrazy said:
I checked to see if anyone had posted this but didnt notice any other threads. A guy over at the skyrocket forum got his hands on an ATT note to take some pics and run some benchmarks. Im satisfied with the results and will be picking up on launch day. Please dont make this thread, "Oh my exynos is better than your snapdragon" yeah we know. And your house is bigger, wife is hotter, car is faster, and your... Ill stop there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462622
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Thanks for sharing this! After my experience with the whole GS2, Skyrocket arguments (I tested both well prior to release, and we all knowthe drama between the two) I didn't really want to stir anything up in here haha.
I have no first hand experience with the overseas version so I wouldn't dare to compare them.
I looked for a Att specific subforum but it seems they have not created one yet.
This guy is a good friend of mine, so if there are any other tests etc that people want me to run just let me know and I will do my best to do so.

My Exynos is better than your Snapdragon.
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imitenotbecrazy said:
And your house is bigger, wife is hotter, car is faster...
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You've met my wife? Oh, and how did you know I put a turbocharger in my car? Most people can't tell off the track (and the engine is loud enough to keep you from hearing it spin up.)
Seriously, though, I'd be more concerned about having an AT&T locked phone than the Snapdragon processor. To take the processor out the equation, compare the GSII (i9100) to the AT&T version (i777) of the same phone. Same processor in both.
The AT&T version's radio is missing an entire band, the updates from at&t/samsung are lacking, etc. The i9100 already has an announced date of ICS for Q1, while at&t/samsung might never release ICS for the i777 (of course, the community will port it over from the i9100 once the sound driver and keypad issues are resolved, but that's not the point.)
I live in the US, and my carrier is AT&T. Today, I ordered the N7000. If AT&T's version also had an exynos and was available today, I'd still have ordered the N7000. The carrier already has me in thrall for wireless service - I don't want them ruining my phone as well.
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Gary

Well said.
But isn't rooting and porting why most of us are here anyway?
Like I said above ...I have not tried to compare the two nor do I care to as I won't get either. If one does import the n7000 do they get lte in the us?
garyd9 said:
You've met my wife? Oh, and how did you know I put a turbocharger in my car? Most people can't tell off the track (and the engine is loud enough to keep you from hearing it spin up.)
Seriously, though, I'd be more concerned about having an AT&T locked phone than the Snapdragon processor. To take the processor out the equation, compare the GSII (i9100) to the AT&T version (i777) of the same phone. Same processor in both.
The AT&T version's radio is missing an entire band, the updates from at&t/samsung are lacking, etc. The i9100 already has an announced date of ICS for Q1, while at&t/samsung might never release ICS for the i777 (of course, the community will port it over from the i9100 once the sound driver and keypad issues are resolved, but that's not the point.)
I live in the US, and my carrier is AT&T. Today, I ordered the N7000. If AT&T's version also had an exynos and was available today, I'd still have ordered the N7000. The carrier already has me in thrall for wireless service - I don't want them ruining my phone as well.
Take care
Gary
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garyd9 said:
You've met my wife? Oh, and how did you know I put a turbocharger in my car? Most people can't tell off the track (and the engine is loud enough to keep you from hearing it spin up.)
Seriously, though, I'd be more concerned about having an AT&T locked phone than the Snapdragon processor. To take the processor out the equation, compare the GSII (i9100) to the AT&T version (i777) of the same phone. Same processor in both.
The AT&T version's radio is missing an entire band, the updates from at&t/samsung are lacking, etc. The i9100 already has an announced date of ICS for Q1, while at&t/samsung might never release ICS for the i777 (of course, the community will port it over from the i9100 once the sound driver and keypad issues are resolved, but that's not the point.)
I live in the US, and my carrier is AT&T. Today, I ordered the N7000. If AT&T's version also had an exynos and was available today, I'd still have ordered the N7000. The carrier already has me in thrall for wireless service - I don't want them ruining my phone as well.
Take care
Gary
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Haha mmmmm turbo.
I definitely agree that the restrictions/unnecessary additions ATT puts on their phones sucks (Ive ran Rogers roms for the last couple phones I've had) it really is just more of a continence thing for me. I work for best buy so I get a pretty good discount on phones and also just trade in or have my current phone serviced so I rarely pay for a phone. I also break phones pretty often (too much partying) so having a local and reliable warranty (again best buy) is huge to me
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00mred00 said:
But isn't rooting and porting why most of us are here anyway?
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Perhaps, but the AT&T versions of phones tend to have hardware incompatibilities with other phones. For example, the sound libs on the i777 aren't compatible with the i9100. Unless AT&T decides to let samsung do an ICS version for the i777, the i777 may never have optimal audio. The folks working on porting CM9 to the i777 are basically having to start from scratch to write a new driver for the audio libs... not an easy task. Similar idea for the keypad support.
Like I said above ...I have not tried to compare the two nor do I care to as I won't get either. If one does import the n7000 do they get lte in the us?
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No. The N7000 lacks any LTE compatible radio. Of course, unless you live in one of only a dozen specific cities, you don't get LTE anyway. AT&T is pushing LTE phones for all it's worth, but doesn't seem to be putting the same effort into making LTE service available. One should also weigh the downfall of current LTE phones as well: battery life. If the AT&T variant of the note has the same size battery, expect the battery life to be somewhere between 20% (if the LTE radio is in use) and 80% (if there's no LTE signal) of the normal note. (This is purely a guess on my part based on my experience with the AT&T SII Skyrocket compared to the AT&T SII)
On the other hand, the N7000 (unlike any AT&T specific variant) will work on the other US GSM provider (tmobile.)
Yes, there are differences between the exynos and snapdragon S3. They've been beaten to death in other forums many times over. Exynos is usually faster, clock for clock, than the other currently available chips. HOWEVER, it doesn't support the newest generation of wireless radios (LTE.) It has other flaws as well (such as the long time to come out of suspend.)
I guess it comes down to this (in regards to the Note): If you use AT&T as a carrier, don't mind an AT&T hobbled phone (or can work around it) and LTE is very important (and available) to you, get the AT&T version. Otherwise, do some serious research before deciding - you might decide that spending the extra money for an unlocked phone (with no warranty) is worthwhile.
Does anyone know if AT&T has announced ICS plans for their version of the Note? (Preferably something more specific than their skyrocket announcement - which was only that the i727 would get it eventually...)
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Gary

Sorry but the Note doesn't work on T-Mobile. Unless you count awful, slow 2g.
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Hell they never give any concrete info regarding updates. The guys at Samsung here in Dallas claim it's Att and not them.
I am slightly biased on Att since I live in a strong LTE market. I was pretty certain they have been rolling out at least three cities a month since about November but I don't watch it ..I already have it haha.
I looked at the i9000 back before I even knew about the skyrocket and really regret not picking up one I found in a local resale shop...I was all set to buy the US version when I found out about the skyrocket and after testing LTE I had to have it.
It really is a case by case basis. If I didn't have LTE I really wouldn't care for the Skyrocket or any other LTE device like you pointed out.
Another bias I have is pricing. Utilizing multiple lines (6), rotating upgrades, and taking advantage of best buy's buy back program I don't actually pay anything for my phones haha
garyd9 said:
Perhaps, but the AT&T versions of phones tend to have hardware incompatibilities with other phones. For example, the sound libs on the i777 aren't compatible with the i9100. Unless AT&T decides to let samsung do an ICS version for the i777, the i777 may never have optimal audio. The folks working on porting CM9 to the i777 are basically having to start from scratch to write a new driver for the audio libs... not an easy task. Similar idea for the keypad support.No. The N7000 lacks any LTE compatible radio. Of course, unless you live in one of only a dozen specific cities, you don't get LTE anyway. AT&T is pushing LTE phones for all it's worth, but doesn't seem to be putting the same effort into making LTE service available. One should also weigh the downfall of current LTE phones as well: battery life. If the AT&T variant of the note has the same size battery, expect the battery life to be somewhere between 20% (if the LTE radio is in use) and 80% (if there's no LTE signal) of the normal note. (This is purely a guess on my part based on my experience with the AT&T SII Skyrocket compared to the AT&T SII)
On the other hand, the N7000 (unlike any AT&T specific variant) will work on the other US GSM provider (tmobile.)
Yes, there are differences between the exynos and snapdragon S3. They've been beaten to death in other forums many times over. Exynos is usually faster, clock for clock, than the other currently available chips. HOWEVER, it doesn't support the newest generation of wireless radios (LTE.) It has other flaws as well (such as the long time to come out of suspend.)
I guess it comes down to this (in regards to the Note): If you use AT&T as a carrier, don't mind an AT&T hobbled phone (or can work around it) and LTE is very important (and available) to you, get the AT&T version. Otherwise, do some serious research before deciding - you might decide that spending the extra money for an unlocked phone (with no warranty) is worthwhile.
Does anyone know if AT&T has announced ICS plans for their version of the Note? (Preferably something more specific than their skyrocket announcement - which was only that the i727 would get it eventually...)
Take care
Gary
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What's the quadrant score on the att note?
Sent from the SuperStreak! ;-)

I did not run a quadrant no one seems to use it anymore. i will have him run one for ya though.
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What's the quadrant score on the att note?
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Hell they never give any concrete info regarding updates. The guys at Samsung here in Dallas claim it's Att and not them.
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I have to back up Samsung here. I have an International GNote with the CSC DBT, which is Germany (The first country to launch the GNote) and when I got my phone there was one update waiting as soon as I connected to wifi and I have had two others since then. I fully expect to get ICS before the ATT version. ATT is not the best with updates, that is not up for debate.

I'll be interested to see how the 'burn-in' or 'image persistence' problem will hit the Note's screen; it seems to be a pretty prevalent problem in the AMOLED screen type. Have you noticed any issues yet?

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I'll be interested to see how the 'burn-in' or 'image persistence' problem will hit the Note's screen; it seems to be a pretty prevalent problem in the AMOLED screen type. Have you noticed any issues yet?
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I have only seen this on one Samsung phone, and that was an Epic touch on display at Best Buy...
none of ours have shown any signs of this (yet)

Not to place too much emphasis on it, but the Exynos really does perform better than the Snapdragon. This isn't speculative; this is an honest side-by-side comparison. Before the Note, I had a GS-II Skyrocket; which has the same LTE-compatible 1.5GHz Snapdragon as the U.S./AT&T Note. Before I continue, I should point out that the Snapdragon actually overclocks quite well; and at 1.7GHz+, it actually outpaces the Exynos at 1.4GHz. However, the Exynos experience is better... Not faster... Better! For example, a few good Gameloft games will run effortlessly on a Snapdragon device. While others won't run at all. However, any Gameloft (or other 3D game) that won't run on an Exynos, will run on an Exynos with Chainfire and some light tweaking. On the other hand, Chainfire doesn't offer anything to Snapdragon users. It'll install... It'll run... But it won't let you play any additional games. In addition to this, there are a great deal of mods and tweaks which function across all Exynos devices. Because the Exynos is so widely used in international Samsung devices, it has a very large development community. When I had my Skyrocket (which is 99% identical to the T-Mobile GS-II), all anyone ever talked about was running T-Mobile GS-II ROMs on the Skyrocket and vice versa. Whereas Exynos development affects a good number of devices.
Again, not to overemphasize it, but the Exynos is better. When you throw in carrier branding and SIM locks, it seems like a no-brainer to me.
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Any notes on battery life?

Can anyone who has had hands-on time confirm that the ATT version has FM radio?

Mister_Mxyzptlk said:
When you throw in carrier branding and SIM locks, it seems like a no-brainer to me.
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If exynos, barrier branding and SIM locks were the only differences, it might very well be a no-brainer. There are MANY other issues, however. Including, but not limited to, LTE, carrier support and warranty, local availability (in the US), contract pricing, etc.
My personal choice is for the N7000. UPS should be delivering it "any minute now." For others, as has been expressed several times over, there are other considerations.
Sure, my exynos will be faster than their snapdragon. However, if they live in an LTE area, their data speeds will make my exynos-based phone look like an old 110 baud dial-up modem. As well, if my phone breaks, I'm going to be pressed to get it fixed/replaced. AT&T will let you bring it into a store or will cross-ship a replacement. For free.
Gary

Well, you're entitled to your opinion; but as far as network speed goes, AT&T LTE is a joke. I have used AT&T LTE & HSPA+, and HSPA+ is more consistent and more widely available; even if I got up to 20Mbps on LTE. And I average 8-10Mbps on HSPA+. You can call that slow all you want, but we all know better.
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Agreed....LTE speedtests out of this world but realworld tests are not significantly faster.
I've had my Hspa+ (mine's identified by ATT as a Skyrocket) Note (overclocked to 1600) side by side with a cache cleared LTE skyrocket, both with excellent signals, and just downloaded graphic heavy sites side by side...the difference was repeatedly literally negligable, in fact Note was faster more often.
Skyrocket kicks Notes ass on the speedtest tho.
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Well, you're entitled to your opinion; but as far as network speed goes, AT&T LTE is a joke. I have used AT&T LTE & HSPA+, and HSPA+ is more consistent and more widely available; even if I got up to 20Mbps on LTE. And I average 8-10Mbps on HSPA+. You can call that slow all you want, but we all know better.
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Want to swap? My International 3G for your US LTE?

Yes, I realize I may get harassed for this, however, I get much better US LTE cvoverage around me than I do the AT&T 3G, therefore, if you pick up a LTE 7.7 from Verizon and are interested in swapping for my 100% perfect condition International 3G version, let me know.
Thanks!

i dont think its out yet.

codeworks said:
Yes, I realize I may get harassed for this, however, I get much better US LTE cvoverage around me than I do the AT&T 3G, therefore, if you pick up a LTE 7.7 from Verizon and are interested in swapping for my 100% perfect condition International 3G version, let me know.
Thanks!
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I'm sorry that you don't have such decent AT&T coverage where you are, but I humbly propose that you are bat$hit crazy for wanting a locked down carrier subsidized device from Verizon... No offense...
I mean, with the VZW 7.7, you're saying goodbye to phone functionality, bigger community support (different internal hardware, different device, separate support). Also you're also saying goodbye to a device free of carrier bloat, lock-downs, and restrictions, just to name a few.
If LTE is all you want, get a VZW LTE hotspot and keep your P6800. Best of both worlds!

Whoever traded with you would give you a locked device, tied to a two year contract.
Is there an easy way to unlock a device under current contract? Seems like you could only use it if you assumed the contract too.
Alternative suggestion: sell your device on here, for maybe $50 less than you paid, and get your own Verizon contract.
Hate to see anyone go to the Dark Side though....

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i dont think its out yet.
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Comes out thursday.
Verizon is charging insane prices though.

spridell said:
Comes out thursday.
Verizon is charging insane prices though.
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How much is the no contract price for it?
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codeworks said:
Yes, I realize I may get harassed for this, however, I get much better US LTE cvoverage around me than I do the AT&T 3G, therefore, if you pick up a LTE 7.7 from Verizon and are interested in swapping for my 100% perfect condition International 3G version, let me know.
Thanks!
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Any interest on trading for this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1520529

Asked this in another thread. But do we know if there will ever be an international unlocked LTE version? I want to get one and use it with Rogers LTE in Canada.

charliechocolate said:
Asked this in another thread. But do we know if there will ever be an international unlocked LTE version? I want to get one and use it with Rogers LTE in Canada.
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If there will be, you won't get it from Verizon. Theoretically, if AT&T offers one that will have a user-accessible SIM card so you could possibly have the device unlocked and use it with other compatible carriers. But, there's no indication that AT&T will be offering the 7.7 at this point.

mywingtophone said:
How much is the no contract price for it?
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Looks to be $699 off contract with Verizon

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I'm sorry that you don't have such decent AT&T coverage where you are, but I humbly propose that you are bat$hit crazy for wanting a locked down carrier subsidized device from Verizon... No offense...
I mean, with the VZW 7.7, you're saying goodbye to phone functionality, bigger community support (different internal hardware, different device, separate support). Also you're also saying goodbye to a device free of carrier bloat, lock-downs, and restrictions, just to name a few.
If LTE is all you want, get a VZW LTE hotspot and keep your P6800. Best of both worlds!
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Internal hardware is the same with the obvious exception of the radios. There's already separate support for the WiFi and 3G models. There will be greater support for the LTE model because of its increased availability vs the international 3G. Both will be eclipsed by WiFi support when its more commercially avaliable, however, as evident in the tab's bigger brothers.
You're trading the ****ty "phone functionality"(find me a review praising this ability, the ones I've read trash the speaker/microphone) for the slightly more useful IR Blaster. Its a tablet and you(general populace) look stupid holding a 7.7" device to your face. I understand the rational of wanting to carry one device to suit all your needs, but... seriously. There only bloatware on the tablet is what Samsung put there as far as I know(I.e. Samsung apps, Peel, etc). Not to mention with the upcoming ICS upgrade, any worries about bloatware go out the window. I'm hard pressed to think of what "lock downs" and "restrictions" you're so worried about.
EDIT: all that being said, I agree with the MiFi solution. Its the path of least resistance.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

unremarked said:
Internal hardware is the same with the obvious exception of the radios. There's already separate support for the WiFi and 3G models. There will be greater support for the LTE model because of its increased availability vs the international 3G. Both will be eclipsed by WiFi support when its more commercially avaliable, however, as evident in the tab's bigger brothers.
You're trading the ****ty "phone functionality"(find me a review praising this ability, the ones I've read trash the speaker/microphone) for the slightly more useful IR Blaster. Its a tablet and you(general populace) look stupid holding a 7.7" device to your face. I understand the rational of wanting to carry one device to suit all your needs, but... seriously. There only bloatware on the tablet is what Samsung put there as far as I know(I.e. Samsung apps, Peel, etc). Not to mention with the upcoming ICS upgrade, any worries about bloatware go out the window. I'm hard pressed to think of what "lock downs" and "restrictions" you're so worried about.
EDIT: all that being said, I agree with the MiFi solution. Its the path of least resistance.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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I dont think both of the internals are the same. The International version has an Exynos chip. I believe the LTE Verizon version does not have the Exynos chip. Exynos doesnt play nice with LTE so it must be a different chip.

I have been reading through all the blog posts regarding the Verizon release tomorrow, however, I have yet to see what processor is included within the device.
I have also heard that Exynos processors have issues with LTE radios, so I am guessing we will get the Snapdragon in this one.
Now, if tomorrow were today, Verizon would only be charging $399 for the device since they are knocking off $100 on every 4G LTE device for Leap Day.

The Samsung product website claims that it is Exynos. AFAIK it is the only device on which an Exynos SoC is paired with an LTE baseband (though that site doesn't say what the baseband is).

For whst its worth, according to folks(Anandtech, Engadget, etc) who handled the LTE model at CES, it is Exynos 1.4ghz processor.
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Samsung must have been able to get their Exynos chip to work with LTE.
This is great news if true. Especially for the upcoming Galaxy SIII.

Skipping LTE

Anyone in the U.S planning on just getting the international version and not worrying about LTE? I am leaning towards the international version because of the processor and probably better rom support.
I have an international s2 right now and I am not sure I really care about lte speed when it's barely supported right now. I guess the only real issue would be the huge price difference.

well Iam planning to get the international one, cause I'm with Tmobile and i think they don't have lte yet rigth?.
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walliester said:
well Iam planning to get the international one, cause I'm with Tmobile and i think they don't have lte yet rigth?.
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That's true but Tmobile is supposed to get a non LTE version and it will be much cheaper than the international version if you buy it on contract.

It depends on your location. If you have no LTE where you live, but has 3G, then international version is good idea. Also it will inevitably gets more developers than carrier locked version and has better resale value.

eksasol said:
It depends on your location. If you have no LTE where you live, but has 3G, then international version is good idea. Also international version is pentaband so you can switch between TMO and ATT. Also it will inevitably gets more developers than carrier locked version and has better resale value.
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I do have lte in my city, but not sure if it really matters to me. There is free wifi almost everywhere these days, and I am guessing lte coverage is going to be pretty spotty since it is so new.
I guess since I upgrade my phone once a year, I would be fine without lte for another 6-12 months.

double post

International.
Philly doesn't have LTE yet, but probably soon.
I like having the physical button on front to wake the phone, us versions usually don't have that.
Less bloat.
To make up the price difference I'll probably get the iphone 5 on contract when it comes out later this year and sell it on ebay.

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Anyone in the U.S planning on just getting the international version and not worrying about LTE? I am leaning towards the international version because of the processor and probably better rom support.
I have an international s2 right now and I am not sure I really care about lte speed when it's barely supported right now. I guess the only real issue would be the huge price difference.
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I have pre ordered mine already as I have T-Mobile wthout LTE... I will however switch my order from blue to white as soon as its an option.
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I need to correct myself, there is an update in spec, and it won't suport T-Mo 3G. gsmarena
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Shiiiii
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To each their own.

I am on AT&T and we are about to get LTE but I really don't care. I am a WiFi consumer 99.99999% of the time so I would rather have this phone with the hopes I will get updates to JB in the fall quicker and that the ROMS will come faster.

International.
I live in Northern part of LA, we have 4G LTE with ATT. But I always have wifi available where ever I go, even work. I'd rather have a better processor, ROM support, faster updates than 4G LTE that I'll honestly hardly ever use. I guess I'm fine with ATT FAKE 4G.

djsaad1 said:
Anyone in the U.S planning on just getting the international version and not worrying about LTE? I am leaning towards the international version because of the processor and probably better rom support.
I have an international s2 right now and I am not sure I really care about lte speed when it's barely supported right now. I guess the only real issue would be the huge price difference.
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I already decided to skip LTE with the N7000. I don;t use enough carrier data to need it. I prefer the MediaNet $10 UL data. I barely use 1GB a month. Enough to have to pay $30 but not enough to get "value" for that money. I use WiFi almost 100% of the time. 3G+ can stream video without issues. I am ok with that.
LTE is probably great for those who have or don't want to pay for Home Intermet Service and tethers. I have no use for it at this time.
Tough to go back to carrier branded after having the more widely spread international versions.

I may get rid of my at&t Note, and use whatever funds I receive from that to get 1 of these intl versions.
Or, I might just get an intl Note instead...if the screen size and s-pen really is a good reason for why I want to stay Note.

Will the international version work with Tmobile? pros and cons?
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Who would sell the International versions to the US?
EDIT: seems like Amazon might. I wonder when they would get their hands on it.

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Who would sell the International versions to the US?
EDIT: seems like Amazon might. I wonder when they would get their hands on it.
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amazon, expansys, gummobile, handtech, negri, there are a lot of stores that ship to the u.s.

Newegg might sell it too...

Do you guys think the sites above would sell the international version the 29th?

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Do you guys think the sites above would sell the international version the 29th?
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negri and onthegosolutions might send it out on release date. amazon is def not one of the sites that gets the phones on release day.