I want a tablet very badly and the OG Transformer looks very enticing - Eee Pad Transformer General

Hey Everyone!
Like the thread title says, I'm looking to buy a tablet. I never really wanted one because I thought they were excessive luxury items but Amazon's Kindle Fire announcement (mostly it's $200 price tag) made me think for the first time about getting a tablet.
However, once I learned about the Fire not having a microSD port, I looked at the B&N Nook Tablet. I played with it in stores and I really liked it, but that 7" screen isn't optimal for me. I was looking for other options and came across the refurbished Transformers going for $300 on Tigerdirect. (Using my Chase credit card, I can buy it from Amazon and get 5% cashback which means I can get the Transformer for about $285)
Obviously this forum is biased, but do you guys recommend the Transformer? I'd love the Prime, but I just don't have that kind of money as a college student. Am I better off going with the newer Nook Tablet? Have you guys heard of any problems with these refurbed Transformers?
Thanks in advance!

Asus refurbs have a bad name to them lately. Either way, I love my Transformer. I returned an iPad2 to buy it. My wife returned her Kindle Fire because she expected it to be more like the Transformer. Said she'd rather have no tablet, then a half a tablet.
So, my vote goes to Yes, Buy it.

I'll chime in here. I've had my Transformer since the summer and I must admit that I absolutely love it. For me it offers the ultimate in portability and choice. Whatever your desire, be it watching a movie, reading a book, updating a work document, accessing your home computer, playing a game or browsing the web, it is an ultra portable extension of your computing life. If you are already in the Android ecosystem, once you register your tablet all of your Android apps will show up on your device for download. Some things it does not do well is picture taking but who uses a tablet for taking pictures? Tethered to my Android phone, I have the internet anywhere on the go. I use it with the Swype keyboard (you have to sign up for the beta) to take notes at meetings and can nearly keep up with the spoken word. If that's not good enough at a meeting, voice record it. If you have kids, there is plethora of movies, games activities to keep them quiet in the back seat on a long ride. I rooted my tablet more because I like to tinker, but out of the box I think you will find that there is not much need to do so if you are no so inclined. The stock ROM is smooth and responsive and full of useful apps; not overly bloated with proprietary B.S. In short, what are you waiting for? Pull the trigger and you won't regret the investment; it's tons of fun and useful when needed.

I have to agree with aburgthing, it's a great tablet. I also got mine this summer to replace my Asus eeepc 1005HA which was so slow that I would rather use my Incredible instead of that slow piece of crap. I use mine constantly.
The thing is absolutely amazing because IMO it can do way more than your standard netbook, if you're a college student (like I was up until a month ago!) you'll definitely want to get the keyboard also. It's a great addition for multiple reasons: It makes typing way easier (IMO it's kind of awkward to type with your thumbs on a 10" screen), it provides you with a stand when you don't feel like holding the tablet, It gives you another 9 hour battery, it provides you with 2 usb ports which function exactly like usb ports on a pc and you get an SD card slot which supports up to (the current) 128GB. Not to mention if you install an app like syncSMS you can send text messages to friends during class with the professor being none the wiser (since the texts can be sent and received via your TF to your phone)!
It's an amazing piece of technology, I spent $600 total on mine and I don't regret it one bit.

look for some used equipment deals first. Usually you can find better deal than refurb.

I've seen people call it "OG" but I don't know what it stands for?

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I've seen people call it "OG" but I don't know what it stands for?
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OG = OriGinal. (Added by edit - I guess it's original ganster. Always thought it was for original or orgie)
That or orgie. Come on! You know what I mean. I am absolutely convinced most guys got the TF101 to have a portible porn viewing device.

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Original gangster
OP: I love this tablet, I use it everyday for business, gaming, media, Web surfing... You get the idea.
I would but new or from a reputable source if you go used. If you plan on typing a lot then get the dock also, it really makes this tab stand out compared to the rest.
I have zero regret with this tablet, much preferred over all the other choices... Aside from the prime, but i'm waiting for the revised version.
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I bought mine "like new" from Amazon for a pretty reasonable price from warehouse deals.

id have to say the transformer in my opinion is the best tablet out there minus the prime when its worked out. ....laugh all you want but id be willing to bet i am over 10 ft away from my tab for less than a few minutes a day i m pretty much attached to it....and except for things tht are just impossible to do, i have completely replaced my laptop with it.im a student as well and its done everything ive needed it to do/

I decided to pull the trigger. I'm really excited to get it! Thanks again everyone!
BTW, what did one of you mean when you said ASUS refurbs have a bad name recently?

I am very happy with the Transformer purchased mine around the time of the Touchpad big sale.Boy glad I did not get that thing,and wanted a tablet and hands down it is the best for the price.Picked up the dock at Christmas for $99 from Amazon a good deal.Check online for a good price I was lucky the price had dropped under $370 at the time.The refurbished will save you some but not that much imo save and get it new.

Absolutely love my Transformer. I would definitely buy it again if I had to. It is fast and I have not had any problems with it at all, everything works great. I think some places are even selling new ones cheaper now that the Prime is out as well, but I could be mistaken. I say go with the transformer.

just make sure the refurbed transformers are not ones with the bad light bleeding issue! thats the only issue i've had so far with my transformer...not a major problem, but can really annoy you at times

I had an ipad, ordered the Prime. Changed my shipping speed and Amazon graciously kicked me to the back of the line and i got backordered untill mid Feb so i cancelled.
So glad it happened, i grabbed a refurb OG Transformer and i love it. With the right rom and kernel it kicks my wife's laptops butt on loading webpages, and if you have seen anything on ICS it will just be that much faster. Very glad i saved the 200 bucks, power button is pretty weak though on my refurb but ill fix it if it gets too bad.
Glad to see you pulled the trigger, welcome to the darkside!

Isn't that how it always works? I was originally with Nook Color, then I traded up to a Galaxy Tab, then I traded up to a Transformer. I kept finding reasons to justify the cost.
The TF201 has some issues of its own, particularly flaky QC and poor wi-fi and GPS reception, of which the TF101 has neither but has had QC issues in the beginning (I believe they're all ironed out now).
The TF201 has a smooth, slick design, better thinner profile and weight, a better processor, better screen, better camera, overall better device but its issues are alarming and the fact that they announced the TF700T which seems like an admission of poor design for the TF201 leads me to believe you should either stick with the tried and true TF101 or at least wait until the TF700T.

Try looking on craigslist.
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sadly i didnt like the TF201, finger print magnet :/ the TF700 looks better though

reaperzero said:
sadly i didnt like the TF201, finger print magnet :/ the TF700 looks better though
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You should get an ipad2. Apple came out with this anti-fingerprint technology where your fingerprints are instantly dissolved the moment you touched the screen.

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Reasons for a Tablet

For a long time I didn't see a reason for me to purchase a tablet. The only use I can think of right now is for me to have more access to my files on a bigger screen via dropbox.
That said, I still reaaaaally want a Xoom, but it's not a good enough reason for me to drop $800+ (Xoom+accessories) since my phone can do the same thing, except on a smaller screen.
Yes, there is the multimedia portion; videos and whatnot but again, what else are tablets used for? I'm not an artist either so the drawing/sketching capabilities do not apply to me.
So hence my question, what do you guys use your tablets for?
Also, do phone applications work on tablets or do tablets have their own set of applications? How is the resolution of the apps if tablets can use the same apps that phones use?
Cheers!
I like this thing, but it's definitely a toy. If I hadn't gotten a great deal on it, I would have been disappointed. Functionality is not what I'd hoped, and browsing the internet is painful at best. I wouldn't dream of using it for serious work. In a few years these will be "useful," but for now it's still just a toy.
It seems like you have your mind made up. I use mines for:
Browsing
YouTube
Gaming
Emulators
Remote Desktop
Texting
Video Editing
Reference
School
Emailing
And a whole bunch of other things. I traded my iPad 2 for it and don't regret it one bit. More appps are coming to Android and are tablet friendly. You can run phone apps also. I haven't even rooted mines yet and if I did the list would be even bigger.
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slack04 said:
I like this thing, but it's definitely a toy. If I hadn't gotten a great deal on it, I would have been disappointed. Functionality is not what I'd hoped, and browsing the internet is painful at best. I wouldn't dream of using it for serious work. In a few years these will be "useful," but for now it's still just a toy.
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I will admit that text input is hella laggy when typing on forums. I don't know why.
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I use mine for several things, but the major thing for which my phone would be completely inadequate is that I teach Bible class on Sunday mornings from my tablet. My tablet is wifi only so I cannot speak for those who can haul theirs with them all the time and get 3g on it.
Generally speaking, Android phone apps will work on an Android tablet. Some apps need to be updated for newer versions of Android, especially Honeycomb, and will force close. Some phone apps will not expand to fill the screen but will only take up a small portion of it. Some apps will fill the screen automatically and the resolution looks fine. Some apps will fill the screen but they look odd. It is a trial and error "test it and see" matter. There are also apps that have be designed or redesigned just for tablets. Most tablet apps will say "for Honeycomb" or "HD" (High Definition) or "for tablets" in their names, but this is not always the case. The Market does have a special section of featured tablet apps and you can find many more by searching on "Honeycomb" or "Tablet."
If you don't want to pay for a Xoom, look into the Iconia A500 like I did. It's very similar, but only costs $450
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I actually think browsing the net is the best thing it does. Quick controls and thumb keyboard make it very fast. Use something like pulse and it's a media consumers dream.
I got my 3G Verizon Xoom on eBay for $490 shipped... I wouldn't pay regular price either.
At the end of the day... it IS just a toy, but it is definitely closer to a laptop than the iPad 2 is, I goto the iPad 2 for my wife & she loves it.
Xoom is much more versatile than the iPad 2.
At the end of the day it still seems like it's just an expensive toy as of now...
But I may pick one up tomorrow just to play with it to see if I like it just because I'm kind of a gadget whore. Hahaha
Question, does LauncherPro(Plus) work on tablets or no? Or is there a tablet version of it? I saw some "hands-on" videos on youtube and there seems to be a bit of lag when transitioning between homescreens. Hmmm!
Well I have a post about this. It is not exhaustive but it covers a lot with photos and elaborations.
I am not a random id that do some own ads here but if xda allows html, I will post my original write-up here without hestitation. =)
Here it is
What do you do with your 10.1 tablet toy??
There is no reason for a tablet. Just buy a laptop. Its half the price and its a better value. I would never drop 800 on a tablet.
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PureH2O said:
There is no reason for a tablet. Just buy a laptop. Its half the price and its a better value. I would never drop 800 on a tablet.
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Well, you just went beyond what I said when I called it a "toy." Its silly to make statements like this when 1) laptops are not "half the price"; 2) nobody cares how much YOU want to spend on your electronics; and 3) not everyone makes the same uses of their stuff as you do. If you like laptops, that's great. I do too. Tablets are a different form factor and thus have different uses.
Anyways, make your own decisions about what you want to spend your money on, just don't expect it to be anything more than it is.
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Well, you just went beyond what I said when I called it a "toy." Its silly to make statements like this when 1) laptops are not "half the price"; 2) nobody cares how much YOU want to spend on your electronics; and 3) not everyone makes the same uses of their stuff as you do. If you like laptops, that's great. I do too. Tablets are a different form factor and thus have different uses.
Anyways, make your own decisions about what you want to spend your money on, just don't expect it to be anything more than it is.
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Agreed, my laptop costed me 3 grand, so I disagree with the comment above yours.
Point of this post was to see if there's any other usages for the tablets that I had not known about. Which does not seem to be the case. I was hoping to have more reasons to justify my purchase (to make myself feel less guilty y'know? )
That said, I may buy it and play around with it to see if I like it and/or will be needing it.
Anyone know if its possible to haggle the price at BestBuy or FutureShop in Canada ?
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There is no reason for a tablet. Just buy a laptop. Its half the price and its a better value. I would never drop 800 on a tablet.
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I admit there really is no reason for a tablet. I've wanted a Xoom since release but wasn't comfortable with paying $800 or signing a contract, so the wifi version came out and I jumped on it.
Now that I have the Xoom, I still don't really know what to do with it. I'm reading books on it, thats cool...it's cool for browsing and what not. I can't justify it's reason for existence other than it's cool.
To summarize;
Paid $600 for Xoom Wifi
Can't figure out what I needed it for
Happy as I hell that I have it
It's gadget porn, thats all.
Nighte said:
Agreed, my laptop costed me 3 grand, so I disagree with the comment above yours.
Point of this post was to see if there's any other usages for the tablets that I had not known about. Which does not seem to be the case. I was hoping to have more reasons to justify my purchase (to make myself feel less guilty y'know? )
That said, I may buy it and play around with it to see if I like it and/or will be needing it.
Anyone know if its possible to haggle the price at BestBuy or FutureShop in Canada ?
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Ha! Haggling a price at a big-box store? Are you from Europe!
Just kidding, but the answer is a flat "no chance." Nobody at those stores have the authority to change pricing.
A word of advice to you: I'd wait for the second generation devices. The Xoom is a solid early-adopter device, but now that you've managed to avoid it for this long I'd put it off for a few more months while the second-gen devices come out. Cheaper, lighter, and (hopefully) will be supported for longer by google/manufacturer. Then again, if you spent $3k on a laptop (I hope it has a money printer and a grappling hook for that price!) then I'm guessing that you're not too worried about the few hundred dollars it would cost to trade up when you want to.
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I admit there really is no reason for a tablet. I've wanted a Xoom since release but wasn't comfortable with paying $800 or signing a contract, so the wifi version came out and I jumped on it.
Now that I have the Xoom, I still don't really know what to do with it. I'm reading books on it, thats cool...it's cool for browsing and what not. I can't justify it's reason for existence other than it's cool.
To summarize;
Paid $600 for Xoom Wifi
Can't figure out what I needed it for
Happy as I hell that I have it
It's gadget porn, thats all.
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+1
Yeah lots of new ones are coming out soon I believe. Guess I can wait.. it is afterall, just a toy
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There is no reason for a tablet. Just buy a laptop. Its half the price and its a better value. I would never drop 800 on a tablet.
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Tablets are a lot easier to carry around. It's easier to hold while standing up, laying in bed, and kicking back on a couch/recliner/lawn chair. I'm tired of being hunched over a keyboard and mouse. I can rest my head and browse. If I need to do something that my Xoom can't. I can RDP into my PC, or walk to my PC and do what I need to do. Also battery life on my Xoom is just awesome.
I feel tablets are like the consoles vs PC war. Sure PC is superior to consoles in many ways, but in my opinion, it can't beat picking up the controller and relaxing on the recliner playing a game. Same sense, I can just pick my tablet up and browse.
I have no laptop nor netbook. So I bought the Xoom.
Yes it is a toy, but using it while lazing on the bed/couch is so comfortable.
Web browsing comes first to mind. Though it won't be as full featured as using the desktop but normal web surfing works very well and using your fingers instead of a mouse to navigate websites makes so much sense.
Next would be ebook reading. Seriously, if you read your books and you have no ebook reader then using your tablet as a book is a must. It has pretty much replaced my normal paperback reading. And best thing is it's pretty easy to just sideload tons of free ebooks into the Xoom for your viewing pleasure anytime.
And finally gaming. Just to pass the time. I pretty much stopped gaming on my nexus one because well, playing games on a 10.1" screen is just so much better.
Just buy the xoom at a Costco/sams club for you can return it after two months.
I plan on doing that so if new generation devices come out then I will just swap it out.
Right now i dont see the need for a tablet, although im envious of the people that do have them. But i just dont see the need for it at the moment, i just recently got a brand spankin new huge 25" all-in-one pc for less then that of the Xoom. As of now the Xoom isn't for me but i have my sights set on the Galaxy 10.1

Considering getting one, would like opinions...

So I am on tmobile with my SGS Vibrant and the sensation isn't getting me excited and the thought of waiting until near winter is killing me, and then I stopped and wondered why I didn't just get a tablet in the mean time?
The only thing my vibrant doesn't do that i wish it did was play dungeon defenders, and with 1gig ram and a tegra2 the transformer should play it easy. Plus I just want a tablet and being pretty darn cheap among it's competition without seeming to sacrifice much I just need the slightest push into trying to track one down.
Any downsides to getting a tablet and not upgrading my phone? Any downsides to getting the tranformer instead of waiting a month or paying a little more for something else?
Also I just read the pcmag review and was getting kind of annoyed. They kept saying it wasn't quite an iPad2 and complained about how the keyboard they got was buggy (iPad2 doesn't have that option, hell no one does), and that flash 10.2 is still in beta, but isn't apple pretty far behind in flash on their "mobile" devices?
Sorry, that almost became a rant. So opinions? Any one else who was like me (on the wall about getting a tablet) who took the plunge and now very happy/unhappy about it? I suppose I could order it on Amazon and would have time to return it, but I would like to know what I should be checking for at least so I can see if it bothers me or not.
Thanks for any and all help. I will now go look at the dev section and see if that gets me more excited or not.
I vote go for it! You wont be dissapointed. There are a lot of fun things to do with the tablet vs just a phone. Let your imagination run with this thing.
I was going to get the Galaxy Tab 10.1. But after finding out that it didnt have a microSD card slot that was a deal breaker. I then began to look at other Tablets. Then I found it. It had all the features I wanted and was cheaper than others. It also had an option for a keyboard that almost doubles the battery life. The decision was easy. I got my Transformer yesterday and I am super happy with my decision. Def go for it. Newegg had them in stock last friday at $499 free ship and no tax. I added a class 10 32 gig microSD. Came to like $570. Also tiger direct had the keyboards in stock as of monday. Have fun with your Transformer. Im very happy with mine.
Wow. When I posted this Amazon had stock of the 16gb model (which would be plenty for me), now they don't. Newegg does but there are no returns for refund (just in case).
I guess I will hold off for now since I am moving at the end of the month any way and shouldn't be splurging right now.
I ALMOST bought one earlier but so many people reported a lot of annoyances that I don't think I would get one without the assurance that I can send it back if I need to.
There's going to be annoyances with any device one gets, really. Especially with a first generation device like the TF. I really do suspect that some of the "problems" voiced are those of perception but, on the other hand, there are some bonafide issues that require addressing.
I've been fortunate, mine has been great. Rooted, Prime 1.4 and OC to 1.4. It performs quite well.
Shiznit... Amazon got more in stock, so I put one on my credit card... At least with amazon if I get it and feel stupid for having done so I get 30 days to return it... I think.
Otherwise I will be telling everyone how cool tablets are by wednesday and playing too much dungeon defenders.
However I already know to check for dust and screen bleed. Anything else to be cautious about? I probably won't pull out the magnifier glass or anything but I being a poor college student I don't want to regret my purchase (I will get the dock when school starts more than likely).
sound balance.
Flash is at 10.3 and Apple refuses to even consider it at the moment. The Android 3.1 update came with an update for the keyboard which it prompted me to install when I first connect to mine. No problems. Nothing close to a force close has appeared since I've had mine. Appreciate the product well enough I took some high resolution photos and did a blog post about it.
4D
h00ligan said:
sound balance.
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Does this mean like speaker placement, or speakers not being equal volume, or like imbalance in tones/pitch?
I've seen this a few times and am not quite sure what to not hope for. I guess I will have to pay attention to if the sound in general bothers me, but thanks.
And @4D, thanks, I will check that out. I hate how everyone bumps tech site reviews and makes it some what of a pain to find decent personal reviews (because, you know, I am not a tech site, I am just a person who wants to know what the device will feel like and not compare it to the ipad2)
see my thread "Still the new hotness".. I'm in lurve baby!!
I've had my TF for two weeks now. I have the 32gb with the dock. Bought it overseas in Australia (ended up being cheaper there than the US)! Apart from the fact that our company has complicated templates for MS Word and Excel, the machine is perfect. I've been able to VNC back into my full sized laptop several times, and it's really going to be a desktop replacement for me on the road.
I had an Asus EeePC prior, and loved that, and this is no different. My one annoyance is the right hand shift key, and that there is no keyboard shortcut for recent apps. However, the shift key is just a getting used to thing. As for the recent apps thing, if that's the only other issue, I'm doing pretty well!!!
Don't use up your upgrade right now on a phone. Wait till Christmas time when the nexus 3 will be upon us.
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Don't use up your upgrade right now on a phone. Wait till Christmas time when the nexus 3 will be upon us.
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Not on contract at the moment, so I don't get upgrades. Maybe early next year I will go back on contract simple for a new phone (since the prices are getting pretty high on their own)

I decided to sell my TF to get another tablet

I have been thinking the past few days about this decision.
I love the TF so much and how fast it is especially after rooting it, and with the keyboard its another awesome device.
HOWEVER, I don't use that keyboard a lot. I use it only when I need the USB port. So, paid $150 for just USB port!!! a don't type a lot with my tablet. Even if I need to type a lot, I will use my desktop.
So, I am having a wide, and little bit think and heavy tablet with an extra keyboard that I don't use while I can have the Samsung galaxy tab 10.1 with lighter and thinner + a small adapter for USB port whenever I need that. am I right?
I know that I will lose two things: 1. losing money by paying more 2. lose the capability to extend the capacity size by not having micro sd card slot.
BUT, I can reply to that 1. I will pay more for the thickness and weight 2. it doesn't really matter for me to expand the size more than 16gb. I never filled it up. I know its good option to have, but its ok with me.
This how it came to my mind the idea of selling the TF and getting the galaxy 10.1
any comments?!!
Another fascinating tale of personal preference!
Seriously, though. It's not a contest. If you're happy with your choice then that's all that matters. What do you care what a bunch of strangers on an Internet forum think?
Besides, you'll probably be back when the TF2 comes out anyway.
Good luck!
I decided to sell my Transformer also. I bought an Apple Newton. The viewing angles on the Transformer were just too hard to look past. I found myself using it less and less. Hopefully I will get way more use out of the newton.
If you don't care about sharing ideas, then don't. But don't make people who like sharing thinking like you by not sharing.
So the reason I am posting is to share ideas and see what others think.
Thanks for your advice anyway.
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But don't make people who like sharing thinking like you by not sharing.
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Is there something wrong with that, or is it me
I thought about buying a Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet (the one with the keyboard).
But i've started using my keyboard less and less so i sold it, so i no longer see the point. You can get Galaxy Tab 10.1 on ebay for rediculous cheap prices, but what would be the point of selling one Honeycomb Tablet for another, especially one without an external micro sd, which i constantly swap with my phone, (a Sensation with a 32gb) can't imagine anyone buying a tablet with no external micro sd card
Why in the world would you want to sell your TF?
checkbox: not sure where you get the "ridiculous cheap prices" for the Galaxy Tab on eBay from. Last i checked, $400+ for a $400+ tablet isn't really that much of a bargain.
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Is there something wrong with that, or is it me
I thought about buying a Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet (the one with the keyboard).
But i've started using my keyboard less and less so i sold it, so i no longer see the point. You can get Galaxy Tab 10.1 on ebay for rediculous cheap prices, but what would be the point of selling one Honeycomb Tablet for another, especially one without an external micro sd, which i constantly swap with my phone, (a Sensation with a 32gb) can't imagine anyone buying a tablet with no external micro sd card
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I don't have any problems with HC. I like it I want to still use it in my next tablet. Also, I don't care really about having SD card reader because I will have the connection adapter instead of the whole keyboard.
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Why in the world would you want to sell your TF?
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didn't you read my first post??
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checkbox: not sure where you get the "ridiculous cheap prices" for the Galaxy Tab on eBay from. Last i checked, $400+ for a $400+ tablet isn't really that much of a bargain.
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yeah, I know. that part sucks!! its not cheep to get it. Selling my transformer with the keyboard will get me only 16gb galaxy with out paying a penny out of my pocket. and if I want the 32gb I have to pay some more.
Definitely not worth it in my opinion.
If I were you I'd rather wait till TF2 comes out before making any decision. What's more if the dock you are having now is compatible to use with TF2? That saves you a lot of money without the dock already.
No point rushing, take your time and observe.
If you plan on using a stylus the ThinkPad tablet works great. Just got the ThinkPad tablet a few days ago and still testing out with the apps.
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If you plan on using a stylus the ThinkPad tablet works great. Just got the ThinkPad tablet a few days ago and still testing out with the apps.
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wow that is really nice. I like it. Thanks for showing me that.
diffidently i will put that in the considerations
jsm7483 said:
I decided to sell my Transformer also. I bought an Apple Newton. The viewing angles on the Transformer were just too hard to look past. I found myself using it less and less. Hopefully I will get way more use out of the newton.
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Viewing angles? Seriously? In my opinion the viewing angles are very good, and the screen itself is excellent. I can't imagine many other people sending the device back for that reason.
jsm7483 said:
I decided to sell my Transformer also. I bought an Apple Newton. The viewing angles on the Transformer were just too hard to look past. I found myself using it less and less. Hopefully I will get way more use out of the newton.
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Darn
I would have been happy to sell you my Newton. I would have even thrown in a 300 baudd modem.
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Viewing angles? Seriously? In my opinion the viewing angles are very good, and the screen itself is excellent. I can't imagine many other people sending the device back for that reason.
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You obviously didn't catch the sarcasm
Well, if you are going to do it, now is the time. The NewEgg $60 Gift Card promotion on it ends today. You could then use the gift card to buy the adapter you are talking about and you might be able to break even sale of your TF and gear.
Good luck.
How are people not filling up their tablets? Do you guys consume no media away from home?
I travel a ton and i like to have some videos on there and the HD rips fill up the memory in no time. Even with the combined 16+32 I have to cycle through videos from time to time to keep the content fresh.
Ive read this a few times now, do people really see a speed increase after rooting their TF's ?
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Ive read this a few times now, do people really see a speed increase after rooting their TF's ?
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I swapped from 3.1 unrooted stock to Prime 1.5, and are now running Revolver 2.5.1 with Clemsyn Blade kernel. I dare to say I've noticed very noticable increase in general smoothness when scrolling homescreens and such from 3.1 stock. However, I don't know how stock unrooted 3.2 with latest updates run like. Initial thought after going custom ROMs was pretty much "wow, this is almost iPad-smooth". Just almost, tho. But hey... who couldn't render a list of icons insanely fast, anyways?

Got my Kindle all boxed up for return need some advice. (Having second thoughts)

Ive had my Fire a few days now and have done a lot of modding. Ive rooted it, installed TWRP, then CM7. Then gapps, market, etc. Then I decided I wanted to go back to rooted stock so I installed the prerooted 6.2.1 along with go launcher ex to have both the Amazon launcher and a more standard android interface, and be able to switch between the two. And no matter what way I set it up there was always something that just didnt work the way I wanted.
The main issue I had was that almost all video had out of sync audio. Internet videos, netflix. And I tried several different wi-fi connections. One of which is a very solid 20 mb/s connection to my laptop. I took my mother in laws samsung galaxy 7.0, set up the exact same video using the same wi-fi just to see if it might be the connection, and the galaxy was perfect, and the Fire just enough out of sync to be irritating.
So I set up a return with Amazon, got it back to full stock, and boxed it up. But now Im having second thoughts. I know how popular it is, and it seems like it has a lot of great developers working hard on roms. So Im wondering if I should just keep it, and hope that someone makes a fully functioning ICS port that fixes all the issues that are keeping this from being my ideal android tablet. Or should I go ahead and return it and cough up another $200 and get the Samsung galaxy plus.
Anyway I figured you guys would be the best ones to ask for advice regarding this. Thanks in advance for your feedback.
If it doesnt work for you, well, it doesnt! Thats that... Get an iPad 2 (seriously). The Android tabs despite their hardware specs arent that great currently.
/not trying to start a flame war here, i own several tablets and for me the iPad works best... YMMV
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I personally hate apple, plus I want a smaller tablet. I figure if im going to get a tablet that big I might as well just carry my laptop around.
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...I figure if im going to get a tablet that big I might as well just carry my laptop around.
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I have to agree, and the 4:3 aspect ratio of the iPad is annoying.
I'm confident ICS is coming to the Fire, but if you have the money to upgrade to the Galaxy, I would probably do that. Can't really complain for $200 on the Kindle, though. Plus Samsung had played games with customers before with promising updates and not delivering. So maybe I wouldn't go with it. Moto's new 8" tablet is appealing except for the fact that its tied to Verizon.
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Well if your having second thoughts, take it back. With a somewhat big purchase like that, you'd want to be 100% sure you like it. If you really want a small tablet get a cheap Asus tablet, or a small laptop that has a touch screen.
u have issues.
get what works for u, don't convince yourself to keep something u don't want. I sold my tf101 transformer too big for my taste, I don't watch videos on a 7" tab. the fire is awesome for me
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Well its gone. Boxed up and at the ups store.
Gam3r 4 Life I think I am right behind you.
I have used mine since Christmas day and although its a neat gadget its really neither a good reader nor a good tablet. It kinda lacks an identity. I emailed Amazon about their lack of TTS on the reader for this unit and their reply was pretty much "sorry.. you have 30 days to return it".
I guess for $200 I will just wait and see what comes down the road, and continue using my Samsnung Infuse for this kind of stuff. It has a 4" touch screen and I dont watch alot of videos anyway so it works ok for now.
Nice try Amazon, but I think you forced this thing to market without thinking it all the wary through. Maybe the next gen will be better. Well anyway I have another couple weeks to see if I can learn to like it. But at this point, I am thinking no.
I think the expectations might be too high. You're looking for the best of both worlds, and if you want media that you don't have to rip yourself, you're not going to get it on a rooted tablet, that's been made apparent by the MPAA. Netflix only runs on Silverlight or on platforms on which you don't have full access do the device where the studio's have guaranteed control of their media.
And given the limited RAM available on the Fire, it's not surprising that running a full sized ROM like CM7 could cause video issues when streaming. Probably not enough remaining RAM to buffer the video with CM7 running, that's my guess.
*IF* you want to get CM7 and then some other method of video streaming outside of Amazon, you'll need a more capable tablet like the Galaxy 7, Galaxy Plus, or the Flyer, and you'll need to pay a lot more for it up front to get the flexibility you want.
the 4:3 aspect ratio is the best feature of the ipad...
I hate how everything is 16:9 nowadays. it's terribly inefficient.
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I've always been curious about this.
My pro-Apple friends have argued the same thing, saying Apple has done tons of research and 4:3 is best for a tablet.
But 4:3 is one of the main reasons why I'd never buy an iPad. If entertainment media is one of the prime features of a tablet, why would I want a screen that has black bars on the top and bottom (effectively shrinking the screen size) whenever I'm watching hi-def widescreen video?
In general, android tablets compete on price. They are the Yugos of the tablet world compared to the Benz that Apple offers (at a Benz price, I might add)...and the fire does a heck of a job at $199. If it works for you at that price point, great...if not, well get an iPad.
I wouldn't recommend looking to replace the fire with another android tablet, however, because once rooted and sorted it really competes with the best of them.
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In general, android tablets compete on price. They are the Yugos of the tablet world compared to the Benz that Apple offers (at a Benz price, I might add)...and the fire does a heck of a job at $199. If it works for you at that price point, great...if not, well get an iPad.
I wouldn't recommend looking to replace the fire with another android tablet, however, because once rooted and sorted it really competes with the best of them.
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LOL, I had a Yugo!!! I bought it from a guy that needed to pay his rent for under $500. If I remember right his name was Billy Bob, or something like that (and the name fit). The only thing he requested to keep from the car was a shifter knob that looked exactly like a bathtub water knob. My mother and I drove it til the engine gave out at about 30,000 miles. Not bad for under $500.
Funny story, that thing was such a piece if junk that the shifter knob and handle use to pop off and you could see through to the ground through the floor. So my mother would call me and say it happened again. I would have to go rig it back on just so she could drive it again. My mom was such a good sport and never got mad about it, and laughed about it with me. (RIP).
You know the saying that your first idea/answer about something is usually the right one. Well that applies here. When I first decided to get a tablet I wanted the HTC EVO View. But I didnt want to have to add a data plan to my bill so I ended up with the Nook tablet. Then the nook color, then the vizio vtab, then the Coby kyros, then the Kindle fire. Well after all that Im back to the evo view and found it on amazon for under $300. And this is a wi-fi/ 4g version, but doesn't require a data plan. So on payday thats what Im going to get. I originally had the evo 4g as my cell, and now have the evo 3d and love it. So the Evo view is basically a larger version of my phone which is exactly what I want from a tablet.
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the 4:3 aspect ratio is the best feature of the ipad...
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Agreed, that's why I haven't wasted my money on one.
Damn you Swype!
I've got my KFire rooted running CM7 and haven't noticed any sync problems at all with netflix or youtube. I'm completely happy with it and all these devs are busting their butts to get some pretty sweet ROM's running on here. Hopefully MIUI will be one of them. ICS will work for now once they get the audio/video issues worked out.

This Padphone thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gjxrjKzfr0&feature=player_embedded
So if you haven't seen this video over at android police, I suggest you watch it. It is pretty astounding what this teaser video shows off. We thought we were cool with our dockable tablet. This thing will have a dockable phone within a tablet with its own dock. (Yo dawg I heard you like docks)
Also I saw the phone and stylus thing and every nerd fiber of my being giggled. It looks like the phone will be bare bones android similar to our tabs but not true AOSP.
What's your opinion?
The price (Which isn't that unreasonae for what you are getting) is just a little too steep for me but personally I think this is one of the neatest things I have ever seen in the mobile world. Would love to get my hands on this whenever the original price drops!
Asus really knows how to make things that people want, well things that I want at least.
I want. I want. I WANT. WANTS MOAR. What's the release date of this beauty???
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I want. I want. I WANT. WANTS MOAR. What's the release date of this beauty???
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I heard May for Europe and September for United States. Of course I'm sure these are just rumors.
The only things I'd be tentative about is carrier and/or the phone itself. Asus would have to prove it can make a reliable phone after some of its reliability/construction issues with their tablets.
There is supposedly a big shortage of the Snapdragon processor needed for it so even those dates may be too optimistic. That and a list price of $1000 for what ultimately its a phone with a dockable display and keyboard its pretty crazy in my book. Of course once it fails miserably at that price and gets remaindered at Ben's Outlet or Tiger Direct our wherever for $250 for the whole package I'll be all over it
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did you say 1000? you can get an a Htc one x and a high-end table for much much less than that. the only advantage is the data plan sharing, but can easily be replicated with simply blutooth tethering.
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did you say 1000? you can get an a Htc one x and a high-end table for much much less than that. the only advantage is the data plan sharing, but can easily be replicated with simply blutooth tethering.
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Here's the price announcement from Androidpit, a site I follow:
http://www.androidpit.com/en/android/blog/404181/Padfone-Price
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Lucky for us, we won´t be needing the keyboard dock.
Anyway, been waiting for this to be released for over a year now.
Hurry up, Asus!
Uhm... maybe I'm missing something but... I already use my phone's dataplan with my TF101.
I have an SGS i9000: I activate the mobile hotspot, put it back in my bag and use the network on my tablet. Easy peasy.
Sure, the phone itself looks nice, but I dunno, the integration with the tablet seems to me a weird selling point.
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did you say 1000? you can get an a Htc one x and a high-end table for much much less than that. the only advantage is the data plan sharing, but can easily be replicated with simply blutooth tethering.
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Straight from the article:
The price breaks down to $610 for the phone, $240 for the tablet dock, earpiece and stylus and $130
$610 for an unlocked phone is reasonable, $240 for the tablet is pretty damn cheap, and $130 for the Stylus/Earpiece, well that is a little ridiculous but overall it's a pretty good value.
Most new unlocked phones are going for $700, and most new tablets are at least $350 if not more (Unless you include the Kindle... which I wouldn't).
managed to get my hands on an official Asus glossy promo mag yesterday from an Asus rep with the new range of tablets etc including the pad phone, tf300t and their Windows tablet - the Transformer Infinity.
will bring it home and maybe try get some pictures and details posted up.
If I didn't already have a TF and an awesome phone, not to mention money, I would totally get this thing! But also sometimes I like it that my phone and tablet are separate devices. I'd also feel odd talking to a stylus lol Although it is pretty freaking awesome.
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That video scared the crap out of me when the asus logo popped up during the video i thought i was about to get an rr
Unfortunately, because of ASUS' legendary crappy service, if your phone breaks, you'll be out of a phone AND tablet for a long time. I'm not willing to risk the down time with these clowns.
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Uhm... maybe I'm missing something but... I already use my phone's dataplan with my TF101.
I have an SGS i9000: I activate the mobile hotspot, put it back in my bag and use the network on my tablet. Easy peasy.
Sure, the phone itself looks nice, but I dunno, the integration with the tablet seems to me a weird selling point.
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I use autotether with my phone and tablet, don't even need to take out the phone.
At a grand i think i'll just stick with my transformer minus the dock and have an ultrabook, ends up being slightly thicker than padfone + tab + dock and i won't have to fumble around to assemble them to the respective configurations.
Oh and after having my transformer and its minor, though i love it, I'm a bit weary about using a phone from them, as my phone needs to be rock solid.
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Unfortunately, because of ASUS' legendary crappy service, if your phone breaks, you'll be out of a phone AND tablet for a long time. I'm not willing to risk the down time with these clowns.
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Yes this really worries me. ASUS undoubtedly is the Android Tablet Flagship at the moment but with all of their minor bugs and issues, like rr, sod, bad signal, etc... I worry.
This is definitely similar to what motorola tried doing a while back but they didnt do it right. I want to see ASUS do it well especially since they've been tapped by google to be a hardware dev for android.

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