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[Q] Difference between Kyrillos and Indroid (both v3.0)

Can anyone please post the difference between Kyrillos 3.0 and Indroid 3.0???
I don't want to know which one is better as a matter of fact that personal opinions vary by personal needs.
Just want to know the key/major differences in both.

next2devil said:
Can anyone please post the difference between Kyrillos 3.0 and Indroid 3.0???
I don't want to know which one is better as a matter of fact that personal opinions vary by personal needs.
Just want to know the key/major differences in both.
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Kyrillos looks like Gingerbread.
InDroid looks like Honeycomb.

What are the difference??

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+gingerbread+theme
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+honeycomb+theme

well another major difference is the the kernel where in indroid there is no pre given overclocked kernel which you have to flash later after flashing it
Kyrillos one has already inbuilt that.... and its JIT enabledd I suppose

Pretty much the same ...
Kyrillos is slightly faster from what i noticed ...

But isn't the quadrant score for indroid a little higher?

diminishdim said:
But isn't the quadrant score for indroid a little higher?
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Yes because the partitions are ext2.. mine are ext4...
You can install both roms to compare...
Sent from my Awesome Galaxy 3

kyrillos13 said:
Yes because the partitions are ext2.. mine are ext4...
You can install both roms to
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Oh..i am currently using the indroid rom,will flash yours too..I'd really like to try out overclocking the phone..

did you flash it? i want to try too but are there alot of bugs and is a overclock safe? doesn't my phone get overheat or explodes or something like that is it alot faster then indroid

werker123 said:
did you flash it? i want to try too but are there alot of bugs and is a overclock safe? doesn't my phone get overheat or explodes or something like that is it alot faster then indroid
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What bugs did you find? Your phone doesnt heat up so much... 2 celsius over the normal i think.

I still didnt flash it, maybe tomorrow. but thanks for the information

hey i flashed the rom,super smooth and fast but i just cant get the mad team apps2sd work
i mean im following all the instructions,but still the internal storage is 192 mb, and the size of my sd card(8 gb) is now reduced to 6 gb...any inputs on this?

diminishdim said:
hey i flashed the rom,super smooth and fast but i just cant get the mad team apps2sd work
i mean im following all the instructions,but still the internal storage is 192 mb, and the size of my sd card(8 gb) is now reduced to 6 gb...any inputs on this?
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It's work... If you look into Titanium Backup you'll see a new entry "SD Card (a2sd)" with your new partition
Sent from my GT-I5800 using XDA Premium App & Kyrillos' rom v3.3

diminishdim said:
Oh..i am currently using the indroid rom,will flash yours too..I'd really like to try out overclocking the phone..
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How is indroid working. I am on froyo with Galaxy 3. Should I flash with indroid? Moreover would there be any problem in getting back to stock froyo, if required for warranty reasons

diminishdim said:
Oh..i am currently using the indroid rom,will flash yours too..I'd really like to try out overclocking the phone..
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How id indroid working. i am on stock froyo. Should I flash with indroid? Is it possible to revert back to stock froyo for warranty purpose

Requesting a gingerbread based rom (i know galaxy3apollo deserves it &u can do it)
kyrillos13 said:
Yes because the partitions are ext2.. mine are ext4...
You can install both roms to compare...
Sent from my Awesome Galaxy 3
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Dear Sir.
I request you to develope a gingerbread or cynogen based rom for galaxy3apollo (gt-i5801}.
If wildfire can get a gingerbread so should galaxy 3, but the official support for it is hopeless. So we got no choice but to arrange for it. Plz, consider such an initiative , I want to help but I'm a complete noob (hope u can understand)
Thank you

hey can anyone tell me how to install apps on memory card????plz my internal memory is very low...

[Q] Overclock..

Hi,
I flashed the non-OC version of Kyrillos` ROM because my phone freezed with the other..
Is there a method to overclock my phone or is it gonna freeze anyway?
DoinG!
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DoinG! said:
Hi,
I flashed the non-OC version of Kyrillos` ROM because my phone freezed with the other..
Is there a method to overclock my phone or is it gonna freeze anyway?
DoinG!
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I think no.....I have the same problem with overclock...I tried many methods but it don´t work anyway....

DoinG! said:
Hi,
I flashed the non-OC version of Kyrillos` ROM because my phone freezed with the other..
Is there a method to overclock my phone or is it gonna freeze anyway?
DoinG!
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I had freezing issue's with the BE (whats used in kyrillos's rom, though the version in his rom may be newer) but I didnt have freezing issues with the apocalypse beta3 OC version, so you could try that out if OCing is very important to you

Ok thx.
I'm gonna try the Apocalypse ROM. : )
Just one more question. Do I have to remove my partitions first?
DoinG!

DoinG! said:
Ok thx.
I'm gonna try the Apocalypse ROM. : )
Just one more question. Do I have to remove my partitions first?
DoinG!
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Partitions? No.

I could be wrong, but being a veteran overclocker of desktop CPU's, I know that some processors don't overclock as well as some else might, so one thing you could try is set a lower speed, like 1200mhz. Or start from 667 increasing 100 at a time and running a quadrant each time until It's not stable anymore (eg. freezes).

Thom47 said:
I could be wrong, but being a veteran overclocker of desktop CPU's, I know that some processors don't overclock as well as some else might, so one thing you could try is set a lower speed, like 1200mhz. Or start from 667 increasing 100 at a time and running a quadrant each time until It's not stable anymore (eg. freezes).
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This has been floating around here too, together with the trying different frequencies (end users cant really try 100 at a time, since they dont change the kernel, only 667 833/866 1000 and 1.3ghz unless other values have been added that i am not aware of). I know I had problems with one OCed kernel (regardless of how much I OCed) but didnt have problems with another, so the OC method might have something to do with it (reverse engineering vs sources or stuff like that). It's usually not that easy (or well documented/something similar that my brain cant verbalize atm) to overclock a phone as it is to overclock a desktop.

Yeah, I know It's nothing like overclocking a desktop CPU, but the bottom line is they're both processors and components that work the same way.

Set the min and max frequency the same, it worked for me
Sent from my Kyrillos Ultimate Edition 1.3Ghz GT-I5801

Hi
Download ADB
adb push fs.convert /sdcard/android/data/fugumod/fs.convert

But if you set the same value for min and max your battery life will decrease drammatically....... min frequency is very important when the phone is idle.....

Overclocking got a bit mystic for me I tried the Apocalypse and Kyrillos ROMs with OC. Could not get a stable work from them. Tried changing the frequencies (min and max) and all sort of stuff, but nothing helped. TouchWiz was periodicaly freezing, on big apps like Angry Birds the phone would just hang up and I had to reboot.
Being tired of that, I flashed a stock ROM (being XWJPE for Ukraine), rooted it, and then flashed FuguMod Kernel 2.3. Works fine for me. No freezes, no hang ups, and I didn't have to mess with the frequencies. I suggested anyone who can not get a Custom OC ROM to work properly, to try doing it manualy on a clean stock ROM.
Good luck!

Hi,
sorry to resurrect quite an old post, but i would like to know which (free) app you guys use to manage cpu frequency. I tried some but it was either over-complex or not working decently (not detecting non-extreme frequencies).
I am using kyrillos 5.0 and it looks like my phone is going to 1300 MHz as soon as i ask it anything...

SetCPU is the only one i know^^
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CPU master free.
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dilzo said:
CPU master free.
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Ok, i'll try this one for a few days, thanks !

can anyone help me??? i am using apps2sd mad team..n in settings>sd & phone memory it shows 6.49 gb instead of 7.49..that is because i partioned it...but in titanium backup it shows
internal: 201 MB
SD Card: 6.49gb
sd card(a2sd):219mb
why is this happening ..i have tried several times..everything goes right n i partion the sd card even but cant see it in titanium backup..help would be appreciated...n also do i have to convert..?? i am on indroid 4..and i did not flash any kernel..

AnTuTu Score of Stock Kernel Users ONLY!!

Hey guys!! all those who can't unlock their bootloader and can't get the most from your phone, here's a thread to share your pain and compare your antutu score with the people of your line ( like me )
Edit :- SD card score will not be considered as it differs acc to class.
Here's mine. I know its low but want to see what's the highest score on STOCK KERNEL and let's share what all tweaks we did with our rom.
* Rom - PrimeHD v6.0
* Tweaked to increase 2D and 3D score.

Here's my score before unlocking of course
1796
LinuXperia v7
Stock kernal
Now no pain
i hope u manage to unlock it

semdxd said:
Here's my score before unlocking of course
1796
LinuXperia v7
Stock kernal
Now no pain
i hope u manage to unlock it
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bro!! dont u use any tweaks or ram manager or something like that. If yes, please do mention, in the end we would b able to see which rom provides highest score

Froyopro v.2.4
stock kernel
CPU ondemand governor
no special tweaks
Tried PrimeHD before, but Froyopro gave better results.

GEORG_X8 said:
Froyopro v.2.4
stock kernel
CPU ondemand governor
no special tweaks
Tried PrimeHD before, but Froyopro gave better results.
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Bro, there is a post above which has higher score. So what u think, want to give a try to it or u feel this to b a perfect rom?

I'm not glad to find that cose I like to experiment with new ones, but it seems that old froyo works better on stock kernel.
Edit: one thing I dont like about froyo is partitioning sd card

You shouldn't include the SD card when doing a benchmark test as everyone has different cards.
Sent from my E15i using xda premium

I got about 1500 without the Sd!

NIMBAH said:
You shouldn't include the SD card when doing a benchmark test as everyone has different cards.
Sent from my E15i using xda premium
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Ok. Noted and thnks

manishmalhotra said:
Bro, there is a post above which has higher score. So what u think, want to give a try to it or u feel this to b a perfect rom?
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Just oc
VM 48M
CF3D (doesn't affect the score)
Callibrated N1 Cool
Enable Jit and other option in performance(can't remember0
and uea This rom is perfect for sotck users give it a try

semdxd said:
Just oc
VM 48M
CF3D (doesn't affect the score)
Callibrated N1 Cool
Enable Jit and other option in performance(can't remember0
and uea This rom is perfect for sotck users give it a try
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Just oc - check!
VM 48M - check!
CF3D - check!
Enable Jit and other options - check!
Still, i want some more from my phone eagerly waiting to get some solution to unlock its bootloader !! wanna taste some ice cream!! and better performance

Primehd 6.0 for stock kernel without overclock. I think its preaty good....
Edit:I am not sure if the attachment Is all right because i am using xda premium .I will try again later. The score is 1642.

Well this is my personal rom. Hopefully I will get permissions soon to release it. But anyways this is a constant score I get with many apps installed and running. Stock kernel, overclocked at 768.

Chadw1985 said:
Well this is my personal rom. Hopefully I will get permissions soon to release it. But anyways this is a constant score I get with many apps installed and running. Stock kernel, overclocked at 768.
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gr8. Waiting for your rom to release

Here it is prime hd....
Sent from my X8 using xda premium

semdxd said:
Just oc
VM 48M
CF3D (doesn't affect the score)
Callibrated N1 Cool
Enable Jit and other option in performance(can't remember0
and uea This rom is perfect for sotck users give it a try
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prime HD is nice ROM

atifroyo 5.2 . (just like a ics-themed froyo)

Chadw1985 said:
Well this is my personal rom. Hopefully I will get permissions soon to release it. But anyways this is a constant score I get with many apps installed and running. Stock kernel, overclocked at 768.
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That's a nice score!!!! Especially your ram!!! I am looking forward to try your rom!
Sent from my X8 using xda premium

mine. GingerJHv3
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why do you lot use antutu?

What a the most different ics and gingerbread?..

What the best ics feature that we cant find in gingerbread?..
Sent from my X8 using xda app-developers app

Android version :banghead:
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I use gingerdx now.. so do you think i need to upadte to ics or just stay in gigerdx.. ty for answer..
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New kernel (not on our device ), hardware acceleration, new UI and ofc lots of improvements...

The biggest difference is the UI..
Once you use ICS you will begin to love its UI..

On our phones ? Not much. Try getting a phone like, lets say an S2 or a Nexus S which had both GB and ICS and you will see the difference

nothing special really.. but of course eye-candy improve a lot in ics but performance is indeed lower..
Bootloader Unlocked + nAa 14 + PrimeHd 10.0 + Cypress Digitizer + 787Mhz Overclocked + 8Gb Class 4 = 894 Antutu 3d Score + 2688 Antutu Benchmark

Hope developers will made nAa or Alfs kernel with 192mb of ram too or more,like in JB!:laugh:

The firmware version and the ui

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the biggest difference is in performance

2010matej said:
Hope developers will made nAa or Alfs kernel with 192mb of ram too or more,like in JB!:laugh:
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I test naa ics and jb, have 185 & 186 respectively, and alfs v9c have 187 mb of ram. This isnt better in jb, because of huge usage of RAM on a fat ROM.
The cause of many ppl use ics or jb is the ui, the best, but on our phone its slow. Even better a gingerbread rom with jb ui: GingerDX, smooth and beautifull :thumbup:

gingerbread and ics differences
the differences is:
1.the firmware and the UI
2.the kernel which kernel are u use????(stock,alfs,nAa and anastasia)
3.the launcher
4.the apps install(sometimes walkman ics not work on my gingerbread)
5.name(of course )
6. the android version(u can type the android 4 times to check the differences between them)
7.gb is heavier than ics(without custom kernel u cant try ics like a boss)
8.busybox(my friend told me if busybox for ics minimum is over 800kb and gingerbread is over 650kb :v )
hope if it's useful :highfive::good:

handy911 said:
the differences is:
1.the firmware and the UI
2.the kernel which kernel are u use????(stock,alfs,nAa and anastasia)
3.the launcher
4.the apps install(sometimes walkman ics not work on my gingerbread)
5.name(of course )
6. the android version(u can type the android 4 times to check the differences between them)
7.gb is heavier than ics(without custom kernel u cant try ics like a boss)
8.busybox(my friend told me if busybox for ics minimum is over 800kb and gingerbread is over 650kb :v )
hope if it's useful :highfive::good:
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anastasia kernel...dafuq:laugh:

fotak-x said:
anastasia kernel...dafuq:laugh:
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And "gb is heavier than ics"

Lajbymester said:
And "gb is heavier than ics"
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aaaaaaaaaand size of busybox binary....in kb

handy911 said:
6. (u can type the android 4 times to check the differences between them)
hope if it's useful :highfive::good:
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Aaaaaaaand this^^(bold text)
sent from my W8 using client-server technology

This thread should be closed. You can compare sources to find the difference.

Gogeta said:
Aaaaaaaand this^^(bold text)
sent from my W8 using client-server technology
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he meant go to settings->>about phone and then keep tapping on the android version and then see the magic..

Everything is different. Check githubs to find out what.
Thread closed.

331MB of free ram

the title says it all see if anyone can beat that screenshots below to anyone that dosent believe me rom+ kernel is
NXT GAMING+DX_Engine_Extreme (Beta)

extremetempz said:
the title says it all see if anyone can beat that screenshots below to anyone that dosent believe me rom+ kernel is
NXT GAMING+DX_Engine (Beta)
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THATS AWSOME!:good:
Whats your Benchmark and how much are you overclocking?

Wao is fantastic:laugh:

WTF!?!?!
Sent from my CyberDroid

How much stuff did you delete? Because the most I've gotten while it still being a working phone with gapps and everything is 310mb.

its not the rom its the kernel

extremetempz said:
its not the rom its the kernel
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So is this a new kernel that is in "testing" and is not released yet? Because doing a search only brought up DiXperia ROM, so guessing DikeJ is working on a kernel, perhaps?
If this kernel is available can you be kind enough to post a link for it?
Edit - scratch that, the only thing I find is an X10 kernel... so going to venture DikeJ is working on porting it to our Xperia PLAY.. as I know he does work on teh X10 as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2345327
This says its a JB kernel, but is this a GB kernel as well?

I'm working on this kernel for DikeJ and his set of dixperia ROMs and I don't have any plans to upload it till DikeJ ask me to
edit: there will be a kernel for each android ROM DikeJ Makes this kernel is for dixperia perennial

Will the kernel work on r800x too?

chick3n564 said:
Will the kernel work on r800x too?
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Possibly since its based on Lupus Kernel I should be able to work something out

That's awesome but when it's ready and dike j says you can upload do you think you can make two versions work one of them having als disabled. My phone als is broken so unless Als is disabled at kernel level it won't work. Sorry if it's too much to ask but if you can do that I'll be very grateful
Sent from my Xperia Play (r800x)

Could you be able to do this with ICS/JB kernels too?

Spatinator said:
Could you be able to do this with ICS/JB kernels too?
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yeah I will you won't get 330 mb free ram though

Hail the King @extremetempz and @DiKeJ who are gonna build awesome Kernel + ROM for the R800x

But if you give the system, kernel etc. 420mbs of ram, there's only about 90mbs for the gpu/3d rendering(?) left. Wouldn't that cause lag in games?

Spatinator said:
But if you give the system, kernel etc. 420mbs of ram, there's only about 90mbs for the gpu/3d rendering(?) left. Wouldn't that cause lag in games?
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The 90mb RAM is for the Kernel, not for GPU/3D Rendering - That is done using system RAM.

There will be 4 main Kernels from DXEngine:
-2 for X10 (GB and JB)
-2 for Play (GB and ICS/JB)
But it's not over, cause each main project will have other version with other destination - for example with some features disabled, but better in performance etc. etc. Justin (@extremetempz) is main Kernel Developer for my ROM projects so all credits goes to him - I focused on ROMs to make it best stable and settled with Kernels - trust me, it should do the job .

Spatinator said:
But if you give the system, kernel etc. 420mbs of ram, there's only about 90mbs for the gpu/3d rendering(?) left. Wouldn't that cause lag in games?
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games should actually run smoother because I've doubled the vram 4mb vs 8m
Edit: if anyone can extract lupus v12 ramdisk because it keeps Chucking errors at me please pm me asap as I need to extract to put the WiFi modules in and change a few things

well i have extracted it its using another format for ramdisk(bot the normal gzip)
i dont have the link i used to know how to extract but if you search a bit you will find it
(i dont have the extracted ramdisk because i have deleted my compiler machine from virtualbox)

DiKeJ said:
There will be 4 main Kernels from DXEngine:
-2 for X10 (GB and JB)
-2 for Play (GB and ICS/JB)
But it's not over, cause each main project will have other version with other destination - for example with some features disabled, but better in performance etc. etc. Justin (@extremetempz) is main Kernel Developer for my ROM projects so all credits goes to him - I focused on ROMs to make it best stable and settled with Kernels - trust me, it should do the job .
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Awesome. Hey DikeJ I hope you and extremetempz dont me offering to beta test this kernel for you. I am on GB currently debloated stock on Lupus Kernel v12. Would love to test out this kernel if you wanted to have someone test it out. Either way I am excited to see this new kernel whether I beta test it or not.
Thank you both of you for your hard work and efforts to keep our little device humming along.