As a rather advanced user (but not a dev), I can't see any benefit to the official 2.3.5 update. So far the only "features" I've experienced are the locked bootloader, and some odd touchscreen sensitivity.
I might have asked this elsewhere, but what is the benefit of this update, from a dev's point of view, such that it's now necessary for the latest ROMs?
Please offer your answer in plain English, but feel free to include relevant jargon, I'll understand it.
Thanks in advance...
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Hi there.
I'm not a dev but I think it has something to-do about 2.6.35 kernel.
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It's slightly faster then .32 kernel especially in cm7 with the new adreno drivers and all. Other than that i do not see any difference as a non developer.
hteles said:
I think it has something to-do about 2.6.35 kernel.
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btrst said:
It's slightly faster then .32 kernel especially in cm7 with the new adreno drivers and all.
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Ah, that'd be it. Cheers. ^_^
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Other than that i do not see any difference as a non developer.
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I for one don't see any difference, even with GPU performance.
Except that my touchscreen is extremely sensitive. Literally the only advantage it has for me is that I can use the latest ROMs here on XDA.
Would it not be possible to simply use this kernel with the stock firmware somehow? That way we'd have our /.cust_backup pink screen thing back ^_^
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As a rather advanced user (but not a dev), I can't see any benefit to the official 2.3.5 update.
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Ok... stopped reading right there!
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Well, maybe it might be worth reading the second sentence...
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So far the only "features" I've experienced are the locked bootloader, and some odd touchscreen sensitivity.
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Ok, I'm definitively not going to read any further...
An advanced user that can't see any benefit on updating from 2.1 to 2.3 and it's only perception from the update is a couple of rants that people insist on spreading through this forum.
2.3.5 has better camera/video quality, HDR photos, SRS WOWHD sound, .35 kernel (way better than .32), better graphics drivers (nenamark2 = 29 fps --> more than optimus 2x, sensation XE, galaxy nexus...), it can play 720p videos from youtube desktop page without any lag, sms call reject menu, sending MMS with wifi and more When I upgraded to 2.3.5 I tought that I am going to switch to custom ROMs immediatly but after using it for a while I dont even think about switching to custom ROMs
I would say it is necessary. New AMSS, new libs, new kernel... All new ROMs will propably be sooner or later on the new kernel.
About locked bootloader, B518 release has it unlocked, you could flash that.
Thank you yannn007 and Blefish for clarifying.
However...
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Ok, I'm definitively not going to read any further...
An advanced user that can't see any benefit on updating from 2.1 to 2.3 and it's only perception from the update is a couple of rants that people insist on spreading through this forum.
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Le sigh.
Sorry about that... I wasn't clear on the my original post, and can understand why you've come to that conclusion. Please allow me to update myself:
I have installed the update, mostly so I could try the ROMs that need it to function, like the early CM9 port, and the latest CM7 and MIUI ROMs. (currently using Geno's latest CM7 build)
What I meant by "advanced user" was that I know what I'm doing, and (to a reasonable extent) how these devices work.
Anyone who had clear knowledge on the benefits of this update for use in CM7 could use jargon (or at least, not have to oversimplify or explain the technical bits) without me being totally bedazzled by it.
Having been using CM7 before I braved the official update, I also most definitely know the benefits and added features of Gingerbread versus Froyo (not 2.1 Eclair... )
I guess I haven't noticed the improvement in GPU performance, having not been very involved in GPU-intensive activities (my U8150 has no GPU at all, so I guess I'm still in the habit of avoiding those kinds of things)
(Also the u8150 benefits hugely with CM7)
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I would say it is necessary. New AMSS, new libs, new kernel... All new ROMs will propably be sooner or later on the new kernel.
About locked bootloader, B518 release has it unlocked, you could flash that.
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Aha, this is exectly the kind of info I was looking for, thank you. My main puzzlement is now this:
While I'm okay with the locked bootloader (I'm generally careful when messing with /.cust_backup) and can accept the official update despite it...
Could the new kernel code not simply be included with an update, thus saving the bootloader interface? Or is the process of updating the kernel a lot more complex on the U8800 than it was with the U8150? Or perhaps some other factor that I don't quite understand?
Dang, I feel like a noob all over again
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2.3.5 has better camera/video quality, HDR photos, SRS WOWHD sound, .35 kernel (way better than .32), better graphics drivers [...] t can play 720p videos from youtube desktop page without any lag, sms call reject menu, sending MMS with wifi and more [...] I dont even think about switching to custom ROMs
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Hmm. I guess I didn't try the GPU stuff, as mentioned above in my post.
As far as the user experience was for me, there are some features in CyanogenMod that I just can't pass up, even despite the extra awesome I now know to be in the official software.
U8800 Pro owner here. The battery life with GB more than impressive comprared to what I had with Froyo. With GB it's not a big problem if I forget to charge the phone at the end of the day, it still has enough power to last one more day (having in mind I won't play or use navigation). With Froyo the phone was nearly dead by the end of the day even with 100% charge in the morning.
So, make your choice.
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Hi all,
My phone was on kyrillos ROM 5.5 and recently my wife also bought a SG3 i5800.
Her phone had android 2.1 on it by default, so I could compare the phones side by side.
What I found:
-her phone (android 2.1) "fully installed with apps" was smoother than mine, even when my phone was clocked to 800Mhz "fixed" high performance with fugumod 2.4 beta3.
The smoother behaviour of froyo 2.1 best came out in a game "fruit ninja".
On my froyo 2.2 + kyrillos 5.5 i had choppier graphics when the screen was very full of fruit and lots of sounds and you swiped the screen at the same time.
The android 2.1 though had no issues with this at all, the gameplay was smooth with no difference of busy graphics, sounds and screen swiping (slicing the fruit) at the same time.
As a test I put the latest froyo 2.1 release from samfirmware on my phone, and now I'm enjoying smooth phone also, no overclocking necessary and great battery life too.
ofcourse linpack now shows 3000 again, while it was 9000 before, but in practice the phone is faster....can somebody explain that?
So I will stay on froyo 2.1 for now, how it lasts in time, and maybe later I try a custom ROM again on froyo ...when I am in an experimental mood again.
I didn't use ext4 partitions before the downgrade, so no issues for me regarding filesystems
As a free gift now I can kill some tasks that don't restart themselves automatically.
BTW the camera works great, no crashes in froyo 2.1
When do we see the NEW custom 2.1 ROMS appear ??? )
Br.
Michel
clarkkov said:
This is not the 2.1 vs 2.2 issue. This is STOCK vs CUSTOM issue. This is what I'm trying to say all the time, but I get misunderstood.
Try the stock 2.2 vs stock 2.1 an you'll see that 2.2 is indeed better and faster than 2.1. As offensive might this sound, no offense is intended, but custom ROMs slow your phone down, they are broken and poorly done. You may have installed your custom ROM the wrong way or did something wrong while installing, but still, the FACT remains, custom ROMs for SG3 are broken and some tweaks and hacks don't work as intended.
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Hahaha your words scream FLAME ME but the fact is that I have to agree. Even the custom themes are buggy (not all but most of them). They seem to be incomplete, the text is somehow misplaced, especially in dialog boxes and the download percentage in notification area is unreadable... I have a theory as to the cause of that... All we see are CUSTOMISED roms and themes. If someone makes something original most of these issues will be resolved I believe. I am no developer nor trying to be smart. I respect the developers and I understand how hard is to make a fully working rom. I thank all of them especially Lestat who imo has the best rom. But the only one TRUE developer has to be marcellusbe. Only he is trying something original. Let's hope he pulls it off.
Peace...
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But the only one TRUE developer has to be marcellusbe. Only he is trying something original. Let's hope he pulls it off.
Peace...
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what about our dev-team? we are doing the exact same as marcellusbe, porting whole ROM (MIUI) and almost nobody cares... and to be a exact porting a ROM is not original and if it would be original still our team was porting MIUI wayyyy before marcellusbes CM7. now sorry if i sound like a 90 year old grandma but even tough we were porting before CM7 everybody thinks that nobody hasnt done anything like this before CM7 OMG AMAAAAZINGG!!!
@MARCELLUSBE if you read this dont be offended and if you are offended PM me
thats all
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what about our dev-team? we are doing the exact same as marcellusbe, porting whole ROM (MIUI) and almost nobody cares... and to be a exact porting a ROM is not original and if it would be original still our team was porting MIUI wayyyy before marcellusbes CM7. now sorry if i sound like a 90 year old grandma but even tough we were porting before CM7 everybody thinks that nobody hasnt done anything like this before CM7 OMG AMAAAAZINGG!!!
@MARCELLUSBE if you read this dont be offended and if you are offended PM me
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Ok jazux. Your team too. Listen I don't want anyone to be offended but he (and his team) are the only ones who compile aosp. Something not easy as well as ORIGINAL. If I'm not mistaken all your team does is to port apps and the whole MIUI feeling to Froyo. Correct? Of course you have your share of hard work and fame but in the end we'll have a great, provably, 2.2 rom with MIUI skin...
P.S. Again NO OFFENSE MEANT. All of you keep up the good work.
Peace...
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Ok jazux. Your team too. Listen I don't want anyone to be offended but he (and his team) are the only ones who compile aosp. Something not easy as well as ORIGINAL. If I'm not mistaken all your team does is to port apps and the whole MIUI feeling to Froyo. Correct? Of course you have your share of hard wok and fame but in the end we'll have a great, provably, 2.2 rom with MIUI skin...
P.S. Again NO OFFENSE MEANT. All of you keep up the good work.
Peace...
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no offense taken
but just to let you and everybody else know: the problem is that everyone thinks this is easy and CM7 is hard as,hard but really this is not something that can be done like that MIUI is super hard to port because its designed to run on high-end devices and thus we have to sacrifise some things to get it working on loooooow-end phone. and MIUI is based on android 2.3 wich means our MIUI willl also be based on 2.3
I understand Clarkkov and respect his opinion as user but I don't like to think that way.
You can't ask ROM cookers here to deliver professional ROM like Samfirmware.
EDIT: In fact, when you got your SG3, it has a stock ROM. If you went here to try custom ROM, that would say the original was not good enought for you.
Some month ago, when I bought my SG3, I knew nothing about ROMs and Android. Thanks to ROM Cookers and some advanced users, I learnt a lot while flashing (again and again) ROMs they made.
OK, theses ROMs could be buggy, could made your phone slower ... but they also brings to you some stuffs that are not in the stock ROMs. If it's buggy or badly done, users should give feedbacks to the developpers to help them and solve theses issues.
Android is complex and usefull infos are hard to find sometimes .... I say bravo to ROM cooker to achieve a working ROM, even if it has some issues, because it's not an easy task espcially if you are not a programmer and know nothing about linux/android.
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I understand Clarkkov and respect his opinion as user but I don't like to think that way.
You can't ask ROM cookers here to deliver professional ROM like Samfirmware.
EDIT: In fact, when you got your SG3, it has a stock ROM. If you went here to try custom ROM, that would say the original was not good enought for you.
Some month ago, when I bought my SG3, I knew nothing about ROMs and Android. Thanks to ROM Cookers and some advanced users, I learnt a lot while flashing (again and again) ROMs they made.
OK, theses ROMs could be buggy, could made your phone slower ... but they also brings to you some stuffs that are not in the stock ROMs. If it's buggy or badly done, users should give feedbacks to the developpers to help them and solve theses issues.
Android is complex and usefull infos are hard to find sometimes .... I say bravo to ROM cooker to achieve a working ROM, even if it has some issues, because it's not an easy task espcially if you are not a programmer and know nothing about linux/android.
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Now i m not a developer but as a Custom ROM (Indroid 4.3) user I keep chasing clarkkov. Marcei is right, we all came to XDA as we were not satisfied with our stock ROM.
I think clarkkov has a problem or two with some of the developers. How wud u feel if i say the stock theme was much better than the theme u ported? That is what happens when u try to criticise the custom rom developers. they are much better than u, atleast they are trying to get something better for the users.
@jajux: can u give me the link of ur MIUI rom ported and where can i see the screenshot of SG3 running MIUI ROM.
And i tell u one thing: if u r doing good, u will be appreciated, sooner or later.
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@jajux: can u give me the link of ur MIUI rom ported and where can i see the screenshot of SG3 running MIUI ROM.
And i tell u one thing: if u r doing good, u will be appreciated, sooner or later.
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you mean download link for the ROM? sorry cant give you that and screenshots will arrive when we get launcher working properly on our screen (no overshooting)
marcellusbe said:
I understand Clarkkov and respect his opinion as user but I don't like to think that way.
You can't ask ROM cookers here to deliver professional ROM like Samfirmware.
EDIT: In fact, when you got your SG3, it has a stock ROM. If you went here to try custom ROM, that would say the original was not good enought for you.
Some month ago, when I bought my SG3, I knew nothing about ROMs and Android. Thanks to ROM Cookers and some advanced users, I learnt a lot while flashing (again and again) ROMs they made.
OK, theses ROMs could be buggy, could made your phone slower ... but they also brings to you some stuffs that are not in the stock ROMs. If it's buggy or badly done, users should give feedbacks to the developpers to help them and solve theses issues.
Android is complex and usefull infos are hard to find sometimes .... I say bravo to ROM cooker to achieve a working ROM, even if it has some issues, because it's not an easy task espcially if you are not a programmer and know nothing about linux/android.
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So you learnd android in a couple of months? Did you had any knowledge of coding before?
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So you learnd android in a couple of months? Did you had any knowledge of coding before?
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Ah yes ... I have an experience of ASM MC680x0 on Amiga and Atari ST
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Ah yes ... I have an experience of ASM MC680x0 on Amiga and Atari ST
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Can you plz teach me some android developement when you have time. (I know you are quite busy but I would really appriciate it, I also speak Flemish btw.)
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ROTFL!!!
You should get a life
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Hi guys,
My intention was to inform you with my experiences on android 2.1 and certainly not starting a heavy discussion about custom ROMs and criticism about ROM cookers/designers.
I think the guys who make custom ROMS are great, enabling features that normally are not available in stock ROMS.
Only thing is that my end-user experience with android 2.1 is very good, smooth gaming and no camera issues anymore.
So.... as i wrote earlier.... would there be a "challenge" to make custom roms based on froyo 2.1 ?? Maybe a poll is an option to find out
Br.
Michel
Im also on Kyrillios 5.7 and my phone is a lot faster than with 2.1 .... try to flash some different versions of 2.2 or flash one version twice to see if it becoms better. stock or modded
Just to make some things clear to you:
You say froyo 2.1, but it is android 2.1 eclair OR android 2.2 froyo. Froyo 2.1 is wrong
@remygo
Hi,
I would maybe switch to froyo 2.2 when the game called "fruit ninja" runs smooth even with busy graphics and sound and slicing. Can you confirm it is smooth also on kyrillos 5.7?
Br. Michel
after reading the first post i seriously wanted to give eclair another chance.. which i already did once but the devil didn't let me be in peace as i had downgraded. but i was wanting to give it another go.., but i tried I5800XWJPI from samfirmware which is a may release for Europe comes up with a different language.
i was very impressed with the speed improvement as well the the new market and new maps were built into it which is the first two apps i checked for version coz i loved the new market app.
gps locks in seconds so i took some tips mentioned by clarkkov to optimize the sg3.
i will see how the battery life goes with this one. phone is still not rooted nor OC'd no custom kernels yet..
great
Well i found fruit ninja 1.3.3 on 4shared, incl. Zen mode!
This version looks much better on my apollo sg3.
The stuttering i saw before on froyo was already solved by loading eclair 2.1 but now it also looks much sharper.
Thanks for this advice. It really helped me.
Br. Michel
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Now i m not a developer but as a Custom ROM (Indroid 4.3) user I keep chasing clarkkov. Marcei is right, we all came to XDA as we were not satisfied with our stock ROM.
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Well not ALL of us.
I came here because I always mod the hell out of EVERY device I own. (Playstation, Wii, smartphones, windows, etc...)
But getting back to the op... there were lots of things I liked better about my 2.1 (starting with the keyboard and the wallpapers mine came with.) But other than the fact that 2.2 runs seems to run Angry Birds a bit slower... I've been cool with it and haven't had any of the camera problems and other problems people have had.
this may be outdated/unnecessary but i figured that i'd share / hope others would share too
im still skeptical about moving on to ICS for the vibrant just bc i need a phone that works 100% correctly all the time... so im still on froyo.
currently running bionix fishman mod final2 w/ bali-x @ 1.2ghz
essentially froyo tweaked in many ways w/ the appwidgetpicker
along with the miui camera, s.gps2 for gps fix, setcpu, and bln
is anyone else flashing any additional necessary files when they flash their roms??
share!
jonen said:
this may be outdated/unnecessary but i figured that i'd share / hope others would share too
im still skeptical about moving on to ICS for the vibrant just bc i need a phone that works 100% correctly all the time... so im still on froyo.
currently running bionix fishman mod final2 w/ bali-x @ 1.2ghz
essentially froyo tweaked in many ways w/ the appwidgetpicker
along with the miui camera, s.gps2 for gps fix, setcpu, and bln
is anyone else flashing any additional necessary files when they flash their roms??
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I'm on the newest version of ICS Passion that released yesterday and my phone is 100% functional.
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I'm on the newest version of ICS Passion that released yesterday and my phone is 100% functional.
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i was looking for froyo experience comments to compare to
i have been reading up on way too many accounts of various ICS issues so i wanted to consolidate the best of the best for froyo users for those who don't want the newest software just for the sake of having it
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Fishman is good. My needs are different. I need a Rom that is atleast 2.2.1. So the capacitive buttons dont blind me on each screen press. I'd recommend ultimate rom or biwinning with the sense or sgs2 theme. I also use Bali undervolt kernel. If you haven't already test out the modems for your area. For instance for me its KB1.
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I'm on the newest version of ICS Passion that released yesterday and my phone is 100% functional.
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I was on ICS Passion and 100% functionality is a stretch. Browsing through the thread reveals that damn near everyone else has problems too. I have issue with these devs that claim everything works when it's clearly a lie.
I'm using Fishman's 2.2 rom right now. No need to flash any other files for my needs. So far it's been pretty good.
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I was on ICS Passion and 100% functionality is a stretch. Browsing through the thread reveals that damn near everyone else has problems too. I have issue with these devs that claim everything works when it's clearly a lie.
I'm using Fishman's 2.2 rom right now. No need to flash any other files for my needs. So far it's been pretty good.
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i agree... im still on the fence of flashing an ICS rom but i think ill wait another couple of weeks bc im in no hurry to move on from a 100% functional rom
personally i think the miui camera is essential and am not sure why more people dont flash it over their roms. i use that & the stock hd recorder for a better camera experience
i also went back to a 2.2 rom...TARD...can yall post the links to the extras...i would love to try that s.gps fix...think what it was...
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i also went back to a 2.2 rom...TARD...can yall post the links to the extras...i would love to try that s.gps fix...think what it was...
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couldn't find the thread but... here it is
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15511362/S.gps.2.zip
just flash through cwm. (be my first thanks if you would please )
CM9's 16B is so functional that I put it on my Dad's phone, and he says it's running much better than it did before on Bionix. The only issue he and I have been having is the GPS, which never has worked from the beginning for us anyways, and very minor things (like the menu for toggle widgets is called lockscreens or something).
ICS is pretty awesome. You may want to give it a shot... I recommend the Icy Glitch kernel to go with CM9.
Is the official GB available for this yet?
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Is the official GB available for this yet?
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No, I'll be amazed if it ever is since the vibrant is close to 2 years old.
Oxirane said:
CM9's 16B is so functional that I put it on my Dad's phone, and he says it's running much better than it did before on Bionix. The only issue he and I have been having is the GPS, which never has worked from the beginning for us anyways, and very minor things (like the menu for toggle widgets is called lockscreens or something).
ICS is pretty awesome. You may want to give it a shot... I recommend the Icy Glitch kernel to go with CM9.
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when you say never worked, do you mean it as GPS ideally should? or even to the low standards of how the vibrant's GPS is supposed to work?
personally since everything works 100% as best as it possibly can right now on my vibrant with bionix fishman mod without a hardware gps fix, i'm very reluctant to move onto ICS if the GPS wont even lock within around 30 secs or so like i can get it to do with froyo especially if it is something i need eventually
minor things like menu names i can definitely deal with, but if froyo's GPS works better overall compared to an ICS rom, i see absolutely no reason to make the switch with this phone. if i need ICS that badly, i will get a new phone
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No, I'll be amazed if it ever is since the vibrant is close to 2 years old.
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Is the official GB available for this yet?
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agreed on that point... i would money down that an official GB release will never happen for the vibrant.
Hi guys.
It's been a while since I test different ROM, I flash kernels ...
I do not even remember how was working my phone before that !
So yesterday I reflash the official Orange ROM for France, of course in Froyo 2.2, and brace yourself ... With the stock kernel ... My phone has never worked as well !
It's so fast, smooth ... Reminds me of the good times when I got this phone in my hands for the first time
All this to say, think well before flashing a ROM, put yourself in mind that Android 4.xx, or even 2.3.x, are not necessarily done to our little phone. Nothing will be faster for a daily ROM as Froyo ...
I think I would not leave again Froyo
After that you're only master of your phone, these are just opinions
* A story of someone who has tested all the ROMs available here ... *
Same for me, I tested all rom for G3 but i'm back to froyo because it very smooth and 2.3 or ics don't have video on HQ in youtube :banghead:
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SerkSerk said:
Same for me, I tested all rom for G3 but i'm back to froyo because it very smooth and 2.3 and ics don't have video on HQ in youtube :banghead:
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nah...cm7 base is faster for me...more customizable...i don't mind video rec. & hq you tube videos...not working...i use lappy for that
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Well don't forget guys that cm7 and ics both are in WiP. So it is obvious that froyo well be better.
So its not correct to compare a complete froyo and an incomplete ics or cm7.
For me froyo wasn't so good because of the crapy touchwiz and no data2sd. I will stick with cm7
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Today i came back to JPM from CM7 and the phone is at least 3 times faster...
It's faster...but I miss ICS when I'm on JPU...and I miss JPU when I'm on ICS...I'd like to have a GSII to have touchwizz and ICS
Halco said:
Hi guys.
It's been a while since I test different ROM, I flash kernels ...
I do not even remember how was working my phone before that !
So yesterday I reflash the official Orange ROM for France, of course in Froyo 2.2, and brace yourself ... With the stock kernel ... My phone has never worked as well !
It's so fast, smooth ... Reminds me of the good times when I got this phone in my hands for the first time
All this to say, think well before flashing a ROM, put yourself in mind that Android 4.xx, or even 2.3.x, are not necessarily done to our little phone. Nothing will be faster for a daily ROM as Froyo ...
I think I would not leave again Froyo
After that you're only master of your phone, these are just opinions
* A story of someone who has tested all the ROMs available here ... *
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Even though ICS and GB arent complete bt still they are way smooth and better in processing than froyo....think of it as technology...it gets better with every version....n it seems laggy becoz of the fimg drivers and if now when the fimg drivers are completely fixed you can feel that GB is way better than Froyo...I think Almost all features are up and running now...almost......
I know that they are WiP, but i just warn some new users who wants flash those build without reading or follow topics.
It's sure that an official or a final port will be better that Froyo, but keep in mind that our phone just got 256 MB of RAM. Doesn't good for multi-tasking, and GB and ICS are improving in this case.
I hope some day we could have a full port / official GB/ICS, but with this phone, we couldn't enjoy all the possibility of those ROM's, i dont think so, maybe i'm wrong.
PS : Link2SD workin very well with Froyo. I never understand what's the difference of app2SD and data2SD, but i dont care if the app works
I find that 2.2 fairs the same by way of performace in comparison to cm7. But honestly i would prefer cm7 (if it didnt hav the glitches) because of how customisable evrythn is!
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Kyrilos v10 is based on cm7 right, do you guys have any experience with that? I've been on Froyo, tried a couple of roms, and my phone's been acting up lately. thinking about flashing to stock. It's easy for me tho, I just need something simple with less battery drain for my girlfriend. She got herself that white g3, but I'm not so inclined to test things on her phone. Scared of bricking it and then what?
Honestly, in my experience you can't brick brick a phone! I mean you really have to try to brick it and even then you have to have a combination of bad moves and bad luck for you to unequivocally brick it!!! That being said, Kyrillos 10 is based on cm7 and I tried it and loved it. The battery does last longer, it does have fantastic speed and usability and with s2e you can save a lot of internal memory without sacrificing speed if you use a good class sd card (6+). The main difference though is how customisable it is in comparison to Froyo. Nonetheless, I flashed back to 9.5 mainly because the video camera didn't work which is a must for me. As I understand it your gf would be interested more in something stable with good battery life. Best bet for g3 is v9.5. And it comes with a very well written, detailed installation guide (if I say so myself) which is about to be updated...
EDIT: Apologies for speaking before having a better overview. I am not going to bore you with details but basically concerning your SD's class it seems that this is not necessarily the deciding factor (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633) and by way of speed tests I researched from other sources on the internet (e.g. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/microsdhc-memory-card-performance,3011-12.html) it seems that the Sandisk SDSQ-8192-AC11M seems to be the overall best buy. I have already contacted a reseller in Germany over e-bay to confirm if he stocks them and if so I will be buying, testing and updating!
Best Rom I've ever experienced is kyrillos' . Recently upgraded it to v10 with CM7. I got my cell now exactly where I wanted it to be ever. Will use it till someone give me a free beer to switch on to something else
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I know that they are WiP, but i just warn some new users who wants flash those build without reading or follow topics.
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Exactly! You're warning people not to flash CM7 after all the hard work Marcellusbe has done and i'm sure there are many more people who completely disagree with you but they aren't 'warning' people not to flash a eclair/froyo/ics ROM are they? Basically, i think it is wrong that you are making other people formulate opinions based on your opinion when they should try every ROM themselves and make their own judgements like you (and I) have done.
Bro, it's just a warn ... Of course, if i have to advice someone for a flash, i'll say CM7 from Marcel' without thinking anything else !
I respect all the job doing from all devs here, but i just warn "new users" cause we can see some post in general section like "Help meeeee, brick my phone ???"
Just wanna clarify it, and make new users read slowly the steps of flashing...
No offense, anywhere
that is exactly the reason why I still make custom froyo roms once CM7 is in beta stage, THEN I'll stick with it!
OK I have been reading threads in this forums and I'm sorta lost and annoyed. I read a thread saying that an official update for ICS can brick your phone so you need to do a full reset or something like that. I am confused as to why an official release 'might brick your phone' and I 'should proceed with cautions'. An official release of any OS should be stable and shouldn't cause such issues right?
I am pretty upset that ICS is still yet released for Galaxy Note, not talking about the prototype but the full software and still with the prototype it is 'risky' to update. Honestly I don't bother with custom OS, I prefer official releases and just have it rooted but now I am looking towards 'PARANOIDANDROID' rom, though I haven't flashed it because I'm waiting for it to be updated (so it can play MP4 and other stuff) but still its released faster than the official full ICS and has several features the android people should have added in the begining that are not added to ics. (Only one thing is PA doesn't have SNOTE which is kinda essential to the phone and I don't think the devs will add it) So because of this I also find it really dumb that our warranty is voided if we flash a custom firmware.
I am really confused as to what is happening and am I wrong at some part, can some one explain and post your thoughts about this topic. My point of this thread is just to ask about the 'may brick your phone' part and to see what you guys think about this entire thing with android and their prototypes instead of official releases and cfw. I truely blame android's (or samsung) latesness in releasing the OS for people opting for custom roms than sticking to the official ones. Android really has so much potential since it is 'open' unlike iOS but they are not bringing their A game to the table.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662124
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662124
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I don't understand the whole thing but it's really scary and i'm now afraid to flash a CFW and i really wanna avoid bricking my phone. Can someone explain it more clearly, from what I understand if we flashed ICS leaks and flash back from recoveries we are bound to have issues??? Am i wrong, can someone explain??
AFAIK.... paranoid rom is cm9 based which is perfectly safe... so worth taking a shot...
Im on paranoid rom too... working great... going to try the updated version tonight
we are on the same page mate...
i prefer stock + root/cwm.... i really dont bother with custom rom...
and this bug is the biggest troll on gnote
thank you kvsandeepreddy for clearing up my doubts, I flashed v1 of PA but lacked a few stuff and am so glad to see v2, but I doubt you can play mp4 files on the stock video player as android needs to release their source code and I really need that feature and hate other players, but anyway hope they would fix it all soon and port SNOTE (which I don't think they will but I keep saying it)
musashiro, I suspect you are still on GB like me and honestly I don't think it's worth it waiting for Samsung to release ICS, first they don't have an exact date for the full release and even if they did release a full update now, PARANOIDANDROID has soo many features that ICS lacks and won't be added.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662802
You can check this page out, it is the ROM, it's super cool and it's screen shots looks promising, also PA has both tablet and phone mode. I find it hypocritical when Samsung promoted the NOTE as a 'Phone? Table?' and force us with a phone mode indirectly making it a phone and making us the same as other normal phone owners when we clearly aren't. So PA sorta fixes it and gives us both phone and tablet mode making it truly a 'Phone? Table?' allowing us to chose which mode we want.
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thank you kvsandeepreddy for clearing up my doubts, I flashed v1 of PA but lacked a few stuff and am so glad to see v2, but I doubt you can play mp4 files on the stock video player as android needs to release their source code and I really need that feature and hate other players, but anyway hope they would fix it all soon and port SNOTE (which I don't think they will but I keep saying it)
musashiro, I suspect you are still on GB like me and honestly I don't think it's worth it waiting for Samsung to release ICS, first they don't have an exact date for the full release and even if they did release a full update now, PARANOIDANDROID has soo many features that ICS lacks and won't be added.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662802
You can check this page out, it is the ROM, it's super cool and it's screen shots looks promising, also PA has both tablet and phone mode. I find it hypocritical when Samsung promoted the NOTE as a 'Phone? Table?' and force us with a phone mode indirectly making it a phone and making us the same as other normal phone owners when we clearly aren't. So PA sorta fixes it and gives us both phone and tablet mode making it truly a 'Phone? Table?' allowing us to chose which mode we want.
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Mate for playing videos use mxplayer app from play store.... i ve been using this player from my first day... i dont even remember using the stock player.... controls are easy too...
And regarding the s pen and others it is not possible because they work only in touchwiz framework and the pa rom is based on cm9 which has nothing to do with samsung.... u can try an app called papyrus beta whic is far better than snote....
Personally i hate the official ics and dint even use it for a day...
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Mate for playing videos use mxplayer app from play store.... i ve been using this player from my first day... i dont even remember using the stock player.... controls are easy too...
And regarding the s pen and others it is not possible because they work only in touchwiz framework and the pa rom is based on cm9 which has nothing to do with samsung.... u can try an app called papyrus beta whic is far better than snote....
Personally i hate the official ics and dint even use it for a day...
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I already currently use mxplayer, but I use it to only play .mov videos that I take using my iPad or iPod that I keep on my phone (home movies). I prefer the stock one as it has options for proper resize of videos and looks nice without ads. But thanks anyway for the suggestion and I will checkout papyrus, just hope that at least papyrus allows for proper backup, hope I enjoy PA just as much as you do (you seem like your having the time of your life with it)
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(you seem like your having the time of your life with it)
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Yep... that is true... thanks to imilka.... but also looking forward to stunnerz next release....
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Yep... that is true... thanks to imilka.... but also looking forward to stunnerz next release....
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What rom is that?
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What rom is that?
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That is the best rom ive used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552554
Check that link.... but i dont advise u to flash now that because it is based on lp6 kernel which is easily brickable... but u are safe until u wipe in cmw.... neobuddy(stunner rom creator) is building a new rom as we speak.....
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That is the best rom ive used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552554
Check that link.... but i dont advise u to flash now that because it is based on lp6 kernel which is easily brickable... but u are safe until u wipe in cmw.... neobuddy(stunner rom creator) is building a new rom as we speak.....
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It's OK but from screen shots PA looks much more enticing than the stunner and since additionally you advised not to flash it now I will just stick to PA but Supernote looks cool, there is always something in every ROM that I want.... if only there was an ultimate ROM with everything.
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It's OK but from screen shots PA looks much more enticing than the stunner and since additionally you advised not to flash it now I will just stick to PA but Supernote looks cool, there is always something in every ROM that I want.... if only there was an ultimate ROM with everything.
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Haha true... but not possible with some ppl liking the tw and others plain aosp etc
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Haha true... but not possible with some ppl liking the tw and others plain aosp etc
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Yea I guess your right, hard to please everyone. The entire aosp and aokp and others really confuse me but honestly from what I have seen so far, (alot of YouTube demos of roms) PA looks the best and the PAD on it is a big deal but I decided not to flash v0.2 yet and wait for some more updates as people are commenting on issues with battery and something about SD and internal cards being switched or something and other issues. I really want that rom but the issues people comment about are pretty crucial to be fixed especially battery so I guess I'll just wait for a more stable update. Is it wrong to say v1.0 is a real release and 0.2 is still beta??
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Exactly what the thread title says...
As most of you should already be aware I have a gingerbread build that I try to provide something close to a monthly update on (plus or minus a few days). What I would like to know tonight is if y'all would like something similar with ICS?
Just like the gingerbread builds this won't have a lot of progression and I won't be trying to really create anything so much as compile y'all something (hopefully stable) to use if you so choose.
Assuming the answer to the first question is yes, do y'all have a preference for the build (cm9, aokp, etc)?
A release candidate of CM9 would be nice or if there's an ICS rom of ParanoidAndroid, then that would be great as well, I like having proper tablet UI for apps.
Has hash already updated his CM9 kernel?
ice cold sandwich by Lord Clocken From the HTC dhd trend is an aokp ice cold sandwich ,it has great features like kill all back button.
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Every enhancement
the sg7 enhancement, linaro, supercharge, oc'ed kernal
and nothing else.
Base it on the least flashy ROM. I want to change, and add in things as I see fit, and I want the most basic version of android to do it from. I want it the fastest it can go, so all the enhancements and nothing else added in.
You can port sense rom to our Kindle???
All of the roms I have tried have these really annoying bugs. In the ROM I have now, the WIFI keeps dropping, even when i'm in the middle of a download.
If you guys can make a simple, stable ROM without all the bells and whistles (swipe left, themes, etc), that would make me (and a lot of other people) very happy.
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Has hash already updated his CM9 kernel?
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With a little bit of tweaks I'm pretty sure we can use the newer JB kernel (they're both 3.y based but the newer one has the working charge indicator and screen driver.
P8ntBal1551 said:
Every enhancement
the sg7 enhancement, linaro, supercharge, oc'ed kernal
and nothing else.
Base it on the least flashy ROM. I want to change, and add in things as I see fit, and I want the most basic version of android to do it from. I want it the fastest it can go, so all the enhancements and nothing else added in.
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This is sort of where I was already leaning; was considering basing something off of the loosethiskin builds that TWA was providing before cm10 but I wanted some opinions first as just like my cm7 rom I won't be the one running it (I'm using cm10 and it's going to remain that way)
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You can port sense rom to our Kindle???
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No; others may be capable and or willing to do this. I personally don't touch binary ports; partly cause I don't want to and partly cause I don't know how to do binary ports (I haven't researched it do to the fact that I just didn't want to do it; source code for me)
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All of the roms I have tried have these really annoying bugs. In the ROM I have now, the WIFI keeps dropping, even when i'm in the middle of a download.
If you guys can make a simple, stable ROM without all the bells and whistles (swipe left, themes, etc), that would make me (and a lot of other people) very happy.
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I haven't experienced any of those issues but one thing I can point out is wifi issues are most likely kernel related; I'm most definitely not a kernel dev so anything I do will have something close to hashcodes current kernel (assuming it won't work as is)
Hi Sblood,
Funny, I was just thinking about this today, wondering if anybody that's capable is willing to take the time to do this. While I'm pretty much satisified with my JB rom, I really like ICS and I was very happy with twa_priv's CM9 builds.
I watch a lot of video from CNN and that's flash, the JB roms are finally giving me pretty good performance with this but I also like to watch video from ESPN and I haven't figured out a way to get that to work. With ICS, it prompts you to choose a player to watch the videos, like MX Player or Dice Player, with JB, it just tells me that the content is unavailable. That's probably the biggest thing I miss from ICS. I still keep a nandroid of twa's last CM9 release under a different gmail address and update any apps from Play Store every couple of weeks and then I OD on ESPN vids & Flash stuff, tonight I had 17 apps to update. LOL
For me, it's a tradeoff of JB Google Now for ICS ESPN vids and I'd rather have ESPN videos. So, if you could use twa's CM9 build as a base and hook in Hashcode's newer kernels, say on a monthly basis, that would be awesome & most appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike T
So no new ICS ROM?
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Joey11746 said:
So no new ICS ROM?
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Sorry I've been busy and interest actually seemed much lower than I would have expected so it's been a somewhat lower priority.
I would still love to get it done (if for no other reason than we don't really have a stable/buildable version of ICS) but as it stands I've been having a few issues getting the ICS device repo updated to use the current kernel but I have been trying at least some.
I have to remind you it's the holiday season as well.
A good, stable, release candidate ICS ROM? I can see the appeal. I'd definitely give it a whirl. I'm starting to get tired of instability on a lot of ROMs.
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I'm starting to get tired of instability on a lot of ROMs.
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Well I suggest you put in the work to correct them
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Well I suggest you put in the work to correct them
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You mean report bugs and stuff? Well, they wouldn't exactly be called bugs, more instability. For example, the android browser self closing itself every now and then.
Sblood86 said:
Sorry I've been busy and interest actually seemed much lower than I would have expected so it's been a somewhat lower priority.
I would still love to get it done (if for no other reason than we don't really have a stable/buildable version of ICS) but as it stands I've been having a few issues getting the ICS device repo updated to use the current kernel but I have been trying at least some.
I have to remind you it's the holiday season as well.
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True, still try
Any luck blood?
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Any luck blood?
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That's a joke right; it's been 5 days since you asked this previously, it's still the holiday season and I haven't said anything in regards to something working so it must be I'm just not sure I get the humor in it...
Admittedly I probably shouldn't have created this thread til I had made some more progress but the goal was to find out if people were even interested in ICS in the first place. As I have stated this is still on my project list but let's be serious for a moment; how high of a priority do you really think back tracking to a previous version is? (I'll give you a clue: it's not).
I can tell you this; syncing cm9 and the old Kfire-Android local manifest for it doesn't build (and that's with the old kernel branch), it's not as simple as sync a bunch of folders and compile; I have to actually dig into the code of several repos to sort this out.
Lastly consider that my primary role is as a recovery dev; you know the term 'the plate is full', well I have a platter over here...
Not directly related but on the subject of recovery development; this is where most of my time has gone as of late.
I'd like to see an updated ICS but if it doesn't happen......oh well......I'll wait
.....when you hit the walls of sanity, you have no-where to go.....
Yea I'll wait too. And it was a joke. :c
How about a ROM with similar battery life as the stock Amazon one? Every custom ICS or JB ROM I have tried has not been awesome for battery life. Especially in sleep mode.
I'd like to see a honeycomb ROM that wold be pretty neat