I have the first Samsung Galaxy Tab P1010 with 2.2 OS and was considering getting the new Tab 7.0 Plus just to have it for 3.2 OS. Should I make the leap just for the new OS or is it not really worth it? Screen seems to be the same and size doesn't matter to me. Just wanted a few thoughts and opinons.
I wouldn't do it until ICS has been released for it and has been available for a month or so. I've already been burned once by no updates from Samsung, I won't let myself get screwed by them again. If anyone else releases a 7" or 8" ICS Tablet with decent specs anytime soon, I would look at them first before I would consider another Samsung Tablet.
A lot of ICS Tablets with lesser cost will be released soon and I strongly advice against buying Galaxy Tab plus now.
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The original Galaxy Tab actually has a better screen than the plus (it is much brighter).
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The original Galaxy Tab actually has a better screen than the plus (it is much brighter).
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Really? I think it's the same screen.
At any rate, before you rush out and upgrade your Tab just for the sake of doing so, why not try rooting and flashing a 2.3 based ROM? The Overcome 4.0 kernel gives you a lot more battery life over stock 2.2, and then you can use that ROM or maybe others (I'm rocking the ICS-lookalike ROM).
You'll probably find that 2.3 will give your Tab a new lease on life. There are some good tablets on the market now, but there will be better ones if you can wait 6 months. Hell, the iPad 3 (*ducks*) might be compelling enough to jump over to iOS.
My tuppence would be to wait for the 7.7 ...it's imminent everywhere as I understand it. There are some people posted here with pics that already own it.
Id wait and see what the nexus tablet will be. Or wait for an official ICS tablet. Dont ever trust OEMs to give you updates and personally, Honeycomb isnt all that great or worth the upgrade. Do a CM7 with tablet tweaks and black out the buttons.
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Really? I think it's the same screen.
At any rate, before you rush out and upgrade your Tab just for the sake of doing so, why not try rooting and flashing a 2.3 based ROM? The Overcome 4.0 kernel gives you a lot more battery life over stock 2.2, and then you can use that ROM or maybe others (I'm rocking the ICS-lookalike ROM).
You'll probably find that 2.3 will give your Tab a new lease on life. There are some good tablets on the market now, but there will be better ones if you can wait 6 months. Hell, the iPad 3 (*ducks*) might be compelling enough to jump over to iOS.
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IPad 3 will be the hardware bump version. iOS still is nice but wont be much different for that tablet. The screen, Siri, RAM, etc and possibly a 7" version. That woild make me.buy one but not jumpship. Android is just to customizable to leave.
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I wouldn't do it until ICS has been released for it and has been available for a month or so. I've already been burned once by no updates from Samsung, I won't let myself get screwed by them again. If anyone else releases a 7" or 8" ICS Tablet with decent specs anytime soon, I would look at them first before I would consider another Samsung Tablet.
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Agreed - Samsung not making ICS available for the firstgen tab 7 and SGS is an insult considering how well the CM9 port for the SGS1 functions.
ICS 4.0.3 RC1 on original SGS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR7282CNv0w&feature=related
As an OG Galaxy Tab owner and the new owner of a Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, here's my two cents.
1. The screen resolution is the same, but the screen on the 7.0 plus is of better quality. The viewing angles are a bit better, the blacks are darker, and the brightness is better managed.
2. While I agree that cheaper 7in tablets are on their way, they are cheaper for a reason. The build quality, features, and attention to detail are always lacking on cheaper devices. Not only that, but even other premium device makers always struggle to match Samsung's build and screen quality in the tablet market. Samsung has also promised to provide an ICS update to the Galaxy Tab 10.1, 8.9, 7.0 Plus, and 7.7. Samsung promised a Gingerbread update to the OG Tab, and they did manage to deliver even though the carriers in the US dragged their feet on pushing the update. Since the 7.0 Plus, like the 10.1 and 8.9, is wifi, updates are quicker. My 10.1 has had 3 updates since I bought it on launch day six months ago in June.
3. The Galaxy Tab 7.7, at least in the US, is tied to Verizon. This means it is to a contract, which is a sad fate indeed. I'm willing to take a .7in smaller, non-AMOLED screen in order to be free of the carriers. If you're in Europe or the UK, then the 7.7 may be an option for you.
4. The 7.0 Plus brings much more to the table than just Honeycomb. The dual-core 1.2ghz processor and 1gb of ram make the device much faster and allow it to run apps, games, and videos much better, and with much more ease than the OG Galaxy Tab. If you loved the 7in form factor of the first tab, then the 7.0 will feel sublime, mixing the convenient 7in size with a much thinner body. It feels lighter in hand and is nicer to hold for long periods of time.
Essentially, there is a lot to love about the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, especially if you were a owner/fan of the original. There are other devices, but at least with the Galaxy Tab, you already know what kind of build quality to expect. While Samsung did upset people by not providing the OG tab with ICS, you are on XDA, and ICS is already in the works for the OG Tab. It will run, and run well, so you could just wait for that. On the other hand, it will never run as well as it will on the upgraded hardware of the 7.0 Plus.
In my opinion, the 7.0 Plus is a very good upgrade option if you're willing to spend the money. I did, and I haven't been disappointed, (and I am very picky when it comes to my devices, to the point of being anal.) As I said before, just my two cents. Good luck with your decision.
Awesome reply rkmj...btw where did you make your sig pic?
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Awesome reply rkmj...btw where did you make your sig pic?
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Thanks. I actually made it manually with GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program. It's the open-source alternative to photoshop.) I started it one day after cleaning out my "tech graveyard" I usually try to update it as I get new devices.
Personally I don't think, you get too much more from that step. I'll stay with my SGT P1000 for several months (and use newer firmware than that provided by Samsung)
Well, I'd like to hold off as long as possible before buying a tab. When I last looked Samsung had released any updates for the P1010. Also the only custom firmware I've seen are for everything but the wifi only model. All I really want is to get it up to 2.3 at least.
Did you have a look at the rom section in this forum? If you don't mind too much for touchwiz, I'd recommend the OVERCOME rom to you, which incorperates many fine features plus android 2.3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317384
Ice cream sandwich is on it's way for the tab, so I don't mind the plus ;-)
It looks like those won't work with the Wifi only tab P1010.
"Overcome ROMs/Kernels will NOT work with Latin American Tabs (the P1000L/N Galaxy Tabs)/CDMA-Based Tabs (If your Tab doesn’t have a SIM card, it won’t work…sorry!)/Wi-Fi Only Tabs (P1010 models!)"
if you were going from p1000 to plus, I wouldn't recommend it, seeing as I have good hope it will get ICS from our friendly devs. For the p1010 however, there is not much hope for ICS, so anything with HC or ICS is an upgrade.
I'd personally rather go all the way to the 7.7 though.
The 7.7 is hard to put down! I think the step from the old 7" to the new 7+ isn't that great, especially if you're flashing a ROM like Overcome. The bottom line is the screen and apps are mostly the same, save a few enhancements like the IR port and faster CPU. Although, the 7+ is a fairly good deal. If you flash a 2.3 ROM you may see a new lease on the 7" and then later the 7.7s (or other brand) will be widely available at a cheaper price in the US.
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if you were going from p1000 to plus, I wouldn't recommend it, seeing as I have good hope it will get ICS from our friendly devs. For the p1010 however, there is not much hope for ICS, so anything with HC or ICS is an upgrade.
I'd personally rather go all the way to the 7.7 though.
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I'm running ICS right now on my sprint tab and it works great. No its not as smooth as ICS on my other devices...but still impressive none the less. I'm really looking fwd to getting the plus and 7.7 because I do think those will be a big upgrade from the og tab.
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It looks like those won't work with the Wifi only tab P1010.
"Overcome ROMs/Kernels will NOT work with Latin American Tabs (the P1000L/N Galaxy Tabs)/CDMA-Based Tabs (If your Tab doesn’t have a SIM card, it won’t work…sorry!)/Wi-Fi Only Tabs (P1010 models!)"
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So I'm kind of confused on which tabs the Overcome will work on? someone Just wrote a few posts back that they were running it on there sprint tab? Isn't that CDMA? I have a VZW OG SCH-I800 Tab, will Overcome or any other Rom ever be able to port an ICS Rom to it?
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The Xoom (USA Wifi version) users are having their official 3.2 updates OTA now!
http://tablets-planet.com/2011/07/1...arts-to-arrive-for-some-wi-fi-motorola-xooms/
Where is ours?
I dont even have the 3.1 update for my 10.1v.
Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.
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Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.
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You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.
Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
Wait for Touchwiz before Android 3.2
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You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.
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Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
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Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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That's pretty much the case.
Now that TW is coming. No way we'll see 3.2 anytime soon. Not a chance with Samsungs history.
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Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
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I would disagree somewhat. The Galaxy S has been upgraded to Gingerbread on European versions of the phone. While updates for phones in the past have been lagging I would view that Samsung has taken a new approach as of late. The majority of the phones released around the same time period as the Galaxy S line have not received the Gingerbread update either. I would respond to you and ask for another cell phone manufacturer who is doing it better? Also besides zoom to fit (which spare parts will fix) there's not much benefit of 3.2 for us. The update adds zoom to fit, finally enables SD cards on the Xoom, and is more optimized to fit on 7" tablets i.e. 7-inch Huawei MediaPad.
As for Touchwiz I felt V3 was in need of much work (it does appear to be revamped a tad and smoother on the latest Fascinate GB leak) however V4 on the SGII has me sold on it being the default launcher on my phone. It is butter smooth and I love how it is laid out. If you were to poll the majority of Android users on XDA I would wager over 75% are unhappy with their stock manufacturer's launcher. I am looking forward to what Samsung will bring to the table.
I myself believe that Honeycomb is still very "beta-ish" in its current state. It was rushed and is extremely buggy. I think releasing the source code would help immensely as devs could iron out bugs (which they nicely do for Google now on the phone side). However, I do not believe it will be released before a transition into Ice Cream Sandwich.
Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???
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Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???
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There's a HC 3.1 ROM by seo available in the 10.1v section - incl. TouchWiz.
Dont know
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Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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This sounds about right. Especially the "maybe."
seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.
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seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.
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It's not just about smaller screen tablets. It brings some small bug fixes also:
There is no lag on up side down home screen. Portrait is also better but not much.
Browser seems a little faster and typing a message on XDA doesn't lag as bad as it did on 3.1
I was also planning to buy SGT, but now I'm not sure anymore. I don't want to wait for updates. In this regard, the US Xoom is the best tablet. Only downside is that the US 3G version doesn't work in Europe and i want a tablet with 3G connectivity.
I got the update(wifi Only). Any one have a clue how to access it? Or make Sgt use it? The SD card i mean..lol
There isn't a 3.2 update for Galaxy Tab, and there is no SD card either. Troll somewhere else
I've been a forum reader/poster for over 20 years. Seen many things and read many posts. I know trolls and I know funny.
It's safe to say that the threads that I've read on the XDA forums have the most people with lack of sense of humor than any I've been a part of.
Why is that?
I didn't think it was funny... It was a clear troll post.
Could the 10.1 run 3.2 from the Zoom, or does it have to be made specifically for the Samsung 10.1?
Because supposedly reverse landscape and portrait mode performance are improved, near regular landscape performance.
Thanks for making my point.
Well i mean this is just speculation from my standpoint.
For wifi versions, no 3rd party software developers are impeding the process
I.E. Verizon LTE versions are affected by Verizon's wishes as some people had problems with the Fascinate if you know what i mean.
Now i believe that the reason we are not getting anymore updates on the 10.1 tab for honeycomb is because of the upcoming release of the ICS.
Because ICS will be for both phones and tablets, there is probably no interest from Samsung to spend the time and the resources to update their tablets to the most updated software.
And as we all know Samsung got the first dibs on the ISC software code, i think it is not in the near future that Samsung begins to release ICS source code for all of their products.
It maybe even possible that they are working on ICS for their soon to be released products such as Galaxy Note, Galaxy TAB 7+, Galaxy Tab 7.7
OH well this was just my simple rant for today
I wanted to know what your thoughts were..
Best,
3.2 is more for smaller screen tabs. We are not missing much aside from resizable Widgets.
Look at all the issues the guys in the Asus forums are having with 3.2.
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I don't think they are working on it because they are engulfed in a legal battle with Apple...
Since its been only two month since the "Touchwiz" update and there are no pressing bugs to fix nor brings 3.2 any real needed functionality, I'm not surprised that Samsung hasn't updated the tab. A new version number might seem important to a few people but I can understand why it's not exactly high priority at Samsungs.
The 7+ is launching next month on T-Mobile US with 3.2. The SGS2 currently runs 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5 depending on the market. We think a lot harder about this than Samsung does.
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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I don't think they are working on it because they are engulfed in a legal battle with Apple...
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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I want a pony.
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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Lol hahghaa. That would be funny of they really are.
i prefer samsung focus on ICS instead of 3.2
ICS is around the corner..
Also..who here thinks that Steve Kondik uses a Galaxy Tab 10.1 as well?
thinking CM8 ? that will be a very very nice addition to the tab
me personally cant wait till ICS goes open source so that CM team can take it and start doing CM8
hoping that CM8 alpha comes in two month or so.. (assuming Google exposes ICS to the world by mid Oct)
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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That's the same thought I had when I read his comment.
I guess 3.2 doesn't really make a big difference but I sure would like to see an update where the speed and fluidness of the software is improved.
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I guess 3.2 doesn't really make a big difference but I sure would like to see an update where the speed and fluidness of the software is improved.
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Actually the latest update KI1 (for the European GT10.1 3G) makes the GT10.1 much smoother then my Xoom wich has Android 3.2.1
Other then the app resize function, there is nothing new in 3.2 and i have never used this function.
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These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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I think people should just enjoy their Tabs...
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Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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True, we all want the latest and greatest. I'm using a custom rom that has completely changed my experience with the tab. Enjoying this. . .I can wait.
Probably because they are really busy optimising 3.1 for GT 10.1v.
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It maybe even possible that they are working on ICS for their soon to be released products such as Galaxy Note, Galaxy TAB 7+, Galaxy Tab 7.7
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They'll almost certainly be working on it but the devices you've listed will be released with 2.3.X, 3.2 and 3.2 respectively.
So Samsung clearly are devoting some resources to working on 3.2, albeit for other models of Tab.
It raises the possibility that the 3.2 update might be released around the same time as these new models of Tab, though it's obviously a matter of waiting and seeing.
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i prefer samsung focus on ICS instead of 3.2
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Whilst ICS is certainly a bigger update than 3.2, I don't feel we should have to justify missing out on one software update by hoping that we get the next one sooner.
Good after-sales support would've seen us running 3.2 already as well as receiving ICS, not one or the other.
And the fact that Samsung seem completely unconcerned about updating the Tab 10.1 to 3.2 must surely raise questions as to their commitment to bringing ICS to it in a timely fashion.
Considering Samsung has gotten the first hands-on look with ICS since they are making the next Nexus I would imagine they would have already gotten a head start on developing it for the Tab, which is their flagship tablet.
I'm the owner of a Samsung Vibrant and I really think it has been the US carriers letting us down with updates for the GS line. The international Galaxy S has already gotten Gingerbread a very long time ago while everyone in the US is, officially anyway, stuck on Froyo.
So I would also imagine that since the carriers aren't involved in the WIFI model's update process that we will be seeing faster updates for the US WIFI model.
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Considering Samsung has gotten the first hands-on look with ICS since they are making the next Nexus I would imagine they would have already gotten a head start on developing it for the Tab, which is their flagship tablet.
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They may be making the hardware but the mark of a Nexus device is that Google handles the software in-house, Samsung quite possibly will have had minimal access to the code so far.
Equally, Google are supposed to be implementing a scheme whereby the larger, 'better' Android OEMs get advanced access to the source code of new Android versions in return for keeping their devices updated quickly and generally providing the best possible user experience for their Android devices.
So it is possible Samsung already have access to the ICS source code but, as I said, it's hard to be positive about ICS when Samsung seemingly can't be bothered bringing us a much smaller update.
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I'm the owner of a Samsung Vibrant and I really think it has been the US carriers letting us down with updates for the GS line. The international Galaxy S has already gotten Gingerbread a very long time ago while everyone in the US is, officially anyway, stuck on Froyo.
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The i9000 has had Gingerbread for a while now, yeah, though it was still a fair way behind other handsets in receiving the update - a number of HTCs got in there first if memory serves.
That said, as someone else already pointed out, Samsung have done a far better job of keeping the Galaxy S2 updated, so it seems that they are at least moving in the right direction.
Check out my post, its title Ipad 3, we are all dealing with this slow update process, apple is far ahead in the update department.
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Samsung Italy has reportedly confirmed which of the Korean company’s Android devices will receive an Ice Cream Sandwich update, with models such as the Galaxy S II and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 each supposedly in line for a 4.0 upgrade. The Italian arm of the firm listed the GSII and the Tab 10.1, HDBlog claims, along with the Galaxy Note, Galaxy Tab 8.9, Tab 7.7 and Tab 7.0 Plus as all being eligible for a tasty frozen treat. However, don’t expect it any time soon.
According to the report, the updates won’t begin until Q2 2012, potentially six months after Samsung’s Galaxy Nexus goes on sale. Samsung confirmed to us last night at the kick-off of the Galaxy Note European Tour that the oversized smartphone would get Android 4.0, as reported in our Galaxy Note vs Galaxy Nexus hands-on, but said that, since the company had been working closely with Google on ICS, they expected to beat competitors to the market with upgrades for existing devices.
(Source :http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-android-4-0-ics-updates-in-2012-reportedly-detailed-28191699/)
I hope, we won't have to wait that long...
Waiting 6m+ would be a joke in my opinion - the GS2 is the leading current Android phone in performance and sales, for it to take so long to get 4.0 makes the whole platform seem a bit weak seeing as by then we'll presumably be in the midst of hype building for iphone 5 which would a) have new features ics doesn't have and b) copy anything worthwhile from ics.
I don't believe extended Nexus exclusivity does either Google or Samsung any favours at all...
i don't like to wait.
i read somewhere that it wont get 4.0 until after the galaxy s3 is released.
me too think so. Galaxy S got gingerbread update only after S2 released. So.... I doubt it might be the bad wait more news coming soon...
But anyway v will get it wont v.
Or if v need it faster CM will always be there to help us
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I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
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I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
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Just about everything. It doesn't bring many new features, but it optimizes the old ones and makes the whole experience better.
I'm eagerly waiting for ICS in my SGSII
You wont be waiting that long if you're a flash fan. No doubt there will be leaks etc before the official release.
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I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
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For me, is the joysticks support. I have so many usb joysticks, but none of them are working right now on GingerBread.
Initially I heard ICS for S2 coming next year only, thats fine looking at time required to test stability but throwing the it in Q2 is ridiculous!
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For me, is the joysticks support. I have so many usb joysticks, but none of them are working right now on GingerBread.
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Me too! That feature is real dealbreaker imo.
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You wont be waiting that long if you're a flash fan. No doubt there will be leaks etc before the official release.
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^This
Besides that, why should I wait for a rom that destroys the beauty of ICS with TouchWiz? I want the pure ICS-experience.
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I dont know why people always want to update to a newer version of android. Will my phone produce ice cream when i get an update. Im happy with what my phone can do at the moment i dont know whats the big deal. after this i think ill go for windows phone which looks more stableand quick.
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Initially I heard ICS for S2 coming next year only, thats fine looking at time required to test stability but throwing the it in Q2 is ridiculous!
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Won't Samsung have had ics to develop the galaxy nexus? If so wouldn't they have been developing the upgrades for their phones, negotiated as part of the deal to make the nexus phone?
I think galaxy S2 will be the first to receive the update before any other device, firstly Samsung and Google worked extremely closely on some of the software aspects of ICS namely the Camera app and the launcher itself, also the Galaxy nexus share some hardware components with the Galaxy S2.
Also lets face it the Galaxy nexus is underwhelming specs-wise except the Screen of course (Even though it's Pentile).
Don't forget that Samsung also want to sell a LOT of their nexus device and making it the only device in their range to have ics makes complete business sense. They've sold lots of sgs2 already, time for the nexus.
I know it may be a little frustrating for us, but as someone has already said, we'll get it much earlier via a leaked ROM.
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Q2 2012? F**k me...
What are people doing with their phones to make them slow and desperately need ICS? Am I missing a free hookers and drugs app?
I agree we will get within weeks of the launch whether it be from Samsung or an AOSP ROM doesn't bother me because the one main gripe I have with AOSP ROM's is the lack of hardware acceleration and the absolutely terrible camera app, Samsung's Touchwiz is hardware accelerated which is why it is so smooth.
It does make perfect business sense to delay ICS for the GS2 but people don't buy the "Google Phone" because of its specifications they buy it because its the "Google Phone" the one advantage of doing this is the quick updates, other than that there are far better devices, the Galaxy Nexus isn't even released yet and its already outclassed by devices such as ours that have been out for over 6 months.
ICS and the screen are the only saving graces of the Galaxy Nexus. needless to say it will still sell extremely well because as I mentioned its the "Google Phone".
GALAXY TAB 2 7"
Contains photo of what seems to be touchwiz UX for ics.
If you have nothing constructive to contribute, please do not comment.
Article: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...ab-2-android-4.0/&category=classic&postPage=1
Video, close up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAH-Ff7Uouw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This means (most likeley) that we will get ICS in march!
Yéé!
Heard this thing can do the GSM calls as well.
It reminds me of gingercomb :/
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Am I the only one that thinks this is strange? They introduced the "7 Plus" with upgraded h/w (1.2GHz Exynos) and HC and now they're introducing what's basically the original 7" with nothing new but ICS? If the specs are correct the 1GHz chip is probably the now ancient Teg2. The only h/w difference appears to be 1MB of RAM instead of 512K. So what's their strategy? Introduce ICS via newly named devices? Will there be a Tab 10.1 "2" that has ICS? What would that mean to the existing Tab 10.1 "1?" If they tie ICS to launching second versions of their existing devices, even if they intend to upgrade the originals, we'll be waiting an awfully long time. To me, this isn't good news until we know how it affects getting ICS on existing products.
That makes sense, I acknowledge your concern but we could always use the system dump from the new tab ,especially if it has the same hw, although it may need some scaling
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Here is the desktop link to the one posted in the original post. It has a link to the announcement of the tab 7.0 2
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/13/samsung-announces-galaxy-tab-2-android-4.0/
I don't understand why you'd put a three megapixel camera on a tablet when most phones have 8.
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I don't understand why you'd put a three megapixel camera on a tablet when most phones have 8.
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Most phones are also much thicker than the tablets are. It's a form-factor limitation. When it comes to camera, it is mostly all about the optics. It'll get there as the processors behind these cameras keep getting faster, better, smaller. But until then, you need to rely on the glass and space between them.
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I don't understand why you'd put a three megapixel camera on a tablet when most phones have 8.
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tell me how often you use your tab to take picture ?
Sorry, system is temporarily unavailable, please try again later. -_-
oh it's for the 7.0 tab
gee thanks
I think this is gonna be a budget price model to complete with Kindle Fire and Nook Tablet. But i don't think they can offer this at a price tag less than 300$
and now hopefully to see someone upload leak ics rom for the tab
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I think this is gonna be a budget price model
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Not so much...
Revealing what it says are the "official" prices across several countries in Europe, blogging site Samsung Hub found that the price in U.S. dollars for the Wi-Fi-only version ranged from $419 to $450, while the cost of the Wi-Fi+3G version varied from $523 to $568.
Here's an article that, like me, questions why it exists at all...
http://gizmodo.com/5884606/samsung-galaxy-tab-2-why-do-you-exist
So, basicaly, you'd get the same "hardware" than the Tab 10.1 but with a 7" screen...
looks interesting but I personally prefer tablets with a bigger screen than 7-inch
Too bad it's a 7 inch. Will samsung release a 10 inch version soon?
i cant wait for ICS on my 10.1. Honeycomb is a joke. I am running a KANG ics build but i cant wait for the real thing
I have been looking at videos of this tab, and scrolling through home screens in portrait packed full of widgets looks flawlessly smooth. I really hope we get that new touchwiz launcher.
Edit: I have the galaxy s2, and I have been running the an ICS leak of the last few weeks, Samsung has updated the touch-wiz launcher a lot for ICS, and it looks a lot like the launcher on this new tab. So if they will update the s2 to this new launcher style, hopefully they will do the same for our tab, as this new touchwiz launcher looks smooth and very nice. If it is as smooth on our tab as it is on this new 7inch, it will make all my tabby dreams come true
To the OP; I think this thread is a good idea, thank you. But just as constructive criticism , you really should have sated more about what you meant this thread to be about in your first post
So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?
locutusx said:
So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?
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What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.
is any Samsung device running 4.4.3? To my understanding the Tab S and Galaxy S5 are still on 4.4.2. The cosmetic updates in 4.4.3 won't be noticed since Touchwiz covers them up anyway. I read Samsung implemented the 4.4.4 security patches in it's own separate firmware updates.
Well, the webview enhancements in 4.4.3 improve performance of any app which uses webview.
Also, pretty sure I saw quite a few mentions of various other Sammy devices getting 4.4.3 firmwares uploaded onto sammobile.com which was starting to irk me.
As long as I get android L I'm happy
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The biggest problem I have with it isn't the lack of an update, but the sluggishness of the OS. It's an octa-core processor with a 1.9gHz clock speed on four of them! Also the Wifi was better on my iPad 2 than on this brand new device!
Should've chosen something with a Quallcom processor, then I could have some decent custom ROMs...
A 4.4.4 update came out yesterday (9/10) for my T-Mobile Galaxy S4, so hopefully that mean it'll come out for the Tab Pro soon. The update does not update the UI. I'm not aware of a 4.4.4 update for other S4 and the S5. I believe T-Mobile pushed the update because it includes a new in-flight (airplane) text function/service they'll advertise next week.
Act of good faith
BarryH_GEG said:
What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.
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The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.
There is NO Galaxy Tab with Android >4.4.2 - so why do you moan they don't care about Tab Pro users when there is no newer version on newer tablets (e.g. Tab S)?
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The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.
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Once Samsung have your money they really don't give a damn about supporting your product.
My Galaxy W (i8150) was abandoned by them within 6 months of release and never received an update from GB to ICS even though similar age and spec models by them did.
The S3 has been dumped at JB 4.3 because they can't fit all their bloatware into the KK ROM.
The TabPRO seems to be EOL after less than a year.....
It's par for the course with Sammy unfortunately - which is why we are lucky to have such an amazing amount of support from Dev's on XDA.
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Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon...
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I don't expect to be able to hold the 4:3 Nexus 8" tablet in one hand, like I do with my Tab Pro 8.4.
I also imagine it won't have an SD Card.
But the regular OS updates to seem tempting.
My hand gets tired very quickly when I try to hold the Tab Pro 8.4 in one hand, so I don't see the Nexus 8 being any different in that regard.
I'm only using 900MB of the 64GB SD Card in my Tab Pro -- 62GB free.
Reason is, there are barely any apps I can move to SD card, and even then there are side-effects like the icon won't stay on my home screen so I end up just moving them back to main memory. Also I have Google All-Access Music so I don't need to keep lots of music on my tablet. And for videos/movies, I use Netflix and PLEX so no need to keep videos locally on the tablet. So obviously, i'd be ok with a Nexus tablet without SD card slot. ( But I would still try to go for a 32GB+ )
Also, i have some minor build quality issues with my Tab Pro 8.4 -- in particular there seems to be some very minor "squeaky/creaky" noises when I touch certain areas of the touch screen or around the bezel. Not a serious issue, mind you, but in contrast both my Nexus S and Nexus 4 have zero build quality issues.
Hey, I saw on twitter today that the "T-Mobile" version of the Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) is getting a 4.4.4 update soon!
Good news, right? Becuase it means the GTP version of that firmware update may be coming up soon afterwards. At least for the GTP 10.1" version.
Not sure about the GTP 8.4, it's pretty different from the Note 10.1 ...
I use link2sd app in the playstore great app, been using for a few years now. Native app2sd is not that great
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Just use a custom ROM and you will have a newer version. I have already lost faith in Samsung for their software.
I have a new slogan for Samsung, "It is, what it is". You could follow that with "take it or leave it" I bought my gt p 8.4 with no expectation of any updates. If I get one I will be thrilled.
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Full/Debloated - Rooted - DeOdex - T320XAR1ANG1 - (08/03/14)
I have been rockin with:
Full/Debloated - Rooted - DeOdex - T320XAR1ANG1 - (08/03/14) on my T320.
This thing runs almost as good as my Note 3 running Alliance.
I tried the Daydream ROM and it was VERY lite on system storage but it had issues with some of my gaming.
It's nice to re live the good old Game Boy Advance and N64 days on this huge high res screen...
The lack of a OTG USB controller puts my Moga Pro Power to great use.
I use my Note 3 to email the boss to let him know that I cant get to work until the ice melts.
GAME ON ANYWHERE
Is the latest always the greatest?
Not always!
Do you remember SD card disaster with 4.4.x?
Samsung has a great upgrade program. Every time a new version of Android is released, they release a new tablet running it.
But seriously, I'm not too concerned about 4.4.2 to 4.4.4. I would rather they develop a Lollipop release. Fine with me if they take a couple of months to get it right. I'll be needing it on the Tab Pro 8.4 and Note 10.1 (2014).