Best Buy hurting their own sales selling Fires? - Kindle Fire General

Occurred to me yesterday that this could be the case: If someone owns a Kindle Fire they are probably at least a little less likely to go to the local Best Buy and purchase games, music, movies and even more expensive items like large TVs. I know in my own case my last vaccum came from...Amazon tax free & shipping free.
The Best Buys in Texas that I've been to are choc full of Kindle Fires and I can't help but think every time they sell one they're hurting themselves.
Thoughts?
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The same could be said for about any type of product in any retail store.

airmaxx23 said:
The same could be said for about any type of product in any retail store.
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Not at all. If you buy a Blu-Ray player are you more or less likely to buy movies?
Kindle, beyond a few accessories, what is the device going to cause you to go back to the store for? They're selling a device that functions as a catalog for the competition. Granted you could say the same about any computer but the computer brings you back for more than a Kindle will.
If the Kindle were made by Fry's would Best Buy sell it?
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Speaking as a Fry s employee, the last time we had a Frys branded desktop, it was absolute junk and if anything helped propel HP sales in my store.
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[Q] will the Kindle Fire be sold anywhere else...

...besides amazon? i want to be able to buy it in store like at Best Buy, Target, etc.
Best buy has it up for preorder-
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Supposedly Radio shack will be carrying it as well.
markdt098 said:
Supposedly Radio shack will be carrying it as well.
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damn really? i hope its at radioshack! I'll be able to get the tablet at $150 or lower. great tablet at a great price.
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isoDUB said:
damn really? i hope its at radioshack! I'll be able to get the tablet at $150 or lower. great tablet at a great price.
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How, is there some coupon code? Or do you have a gift card or something.
I went to my local Best Buy and they were not taking pre orders. I asked one rep if I could just buy one on launch day without a pre order he told me "I'm 99% you can just walk in and buy one no problem."
markdt098 said:
How, is there some coupon code? Or do you have a gift card or something.
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my dad has a friend that works there, so i get an employee discount.
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Wow, I'm surprised Amazon is not keeping this exclusively to their site, but I suppose more vendors means more sales for them.
This changes everything. I happen to have a one hundred dollar Best Buy gift card. I am awfully tempted now...
Office Depot had signs up today, but I didn't see if they were taking pre-orders.
I highly doubt this, by the way, it's still not clear whether wifi in other countries will work for Kindle Fire, since those large treasures on Amazon is one big reason for me buying a KF
Just cancelled my Amazon preorder since they just announced that it will be available day one at retail. No need to wait 2 days for mine to ship when I can just walk in to a Best Buy on Tues at 9am and pick one up.
Know this is an old thread, but I'm looking to get one for Christmas and noticed they had them at my local Walmart. I want to play with one first. And the nook tablet too. Walmart had a nook display unit but all you can do is turn it on and see the "you must sign in and be connected to the internet to continue" screen, not a good demo.
My big dilemma is can a 7" screen replace my netbook?
I'm also thinking the slightly bigger and older Vizio tablet. Having a universal remote in the tablet is actually something I think I would use a lot.
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quarlow said:
Know this is an old thread, but I'm looking to get one for Christmas and noticed they had them at my local Walmart. I want to play with one first. And the nook tablet too. Walmart had a nook display unit but all you can do is turn it on and see the "you must sign in and be connected to the internet to continue" screen, not a good demo.
My big dilemma is can a 7" screen replace my netbook?
I'm also thinking the slightly bigger and older Vizio tablet. Having a universal remote in the tablet is actually something I think I would use a lot.
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One of the supervisors at my store (I work at Walmart) got the Vizio tablet when we had it on sale for 198 dollars and got the 10% discount on that. She says it's good for certain things, but the remote control thing is wonky.
Also, the Fire isn't designed to be a replacement for a netbook. My netbook is used for long-term keyboard use things -- IRC, writing, etc. The Fire is more for games and stuff. Although, the SwiftKey X hack makes it better...
I bought mine at Target yesterday.
I got mine at target.
Anyway It could possibly replace a notebook if they ever make a keyboard for it. If they did I would get it so fast cause then I could stop logging my 2004 laptop to school
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Got mine at best buy
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I was meaning 7" vs 10" size difference more than functionality. I have a netbook to have a compact web browsing device, with good battery life. But my netbook's battery is broken, and charge port is wonky, so it won't always charge, and when it does it only lasts like 30 minutes. But, its out of warranty, so I am looking to replace with KF instead of fixing it. I have other computers laptop for full computing needs.
I played with a Nook Tablet, the screen wasn't as small as I thought it would be, seems well sized.
Those that got their KF at target or best buy did they have displays to use? I think I am leaning towards the KF to save the $50 over the Nook Tablet, but still want to use it before buying.
Then I saw the best buy black Friday ad ... 10" honeycomb Asus transformer tablet for $250. But I hate fighting black Friday crowds, especially best buy. I've sworn three times to never do best buy on black Friday ever again, but they keep luring me in.
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We don't have Target or Best Buy here, but the Staples in Ukiah has them in, as do most Staples locations.
Got mine at walmart. Great thing about wlmart is you could rub it over wit a lawn mower and they will still let you return it.
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teookie said:
Got mine at walmart. Great thing about wlmart is you could rub it over wit a lawn mower and they will still let you return it.
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Our Walmart doesn't carry it.

So can this really beat the iPad 2 in sales?

seems to be very limited. It may be locked.to amazon prime or some.software like ipad is to.itunes.
And.it says it cannot connect.via adhoc wifi so no.tethering on a phone. So can are the pre order.sales right or just bloated figures?
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fenguinpower said:
seems to be very limited. It may be locked.to amazon prime or some.software like ipad is to.itunes.
And.it says it cannot connect.via adhoc wifi so no.tethering on a phone. So can are the pre order.sales right or just bloated figures?
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Amazon will sell a bazillion of these device simply because most end users have no interest in knowing what or why something works....just that it does (and the cheap price). They are dis-motivated to explore how good their tab experience could be. Besides comparing the ipad2 to the AF is (pardon the pun) apples to oranges. Two totally different devices with different uses.
We who frequent forums like this have that curiosity therefore will probably be somewhat frustrated with devices like this in their locked down profile. While I have interest in the 7-inch form factor, for now, my NC does all I need and more.
Don't discount that we, as a culture, like "new flashy things"....many bought rocks as pets in the 80's so......we'll buy most anything....some of us will, that is.
problem is ipads are sold in almost all countries; while this seems to be biased towards the US only. Apple has stores in every mall. I dont see an amazon store in the mall. Kindle.is a name for book readers. Ipad is a name for touch tablet computers.
Amazon.needs to get this right on.first try.
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$200 vs $500-900 is the reason Amazon will sell a lot. These are mobile Amazon storefronts and it means potentially millions of new customers to Amazon. Whether it sell more or less than iPads is inconsequential to adding new customers.
this and all other kindles with the nook are popular only in the US. Once you go outside a few shops sell this at a large markup because they either it does not sell or very few competing shops
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fenguinpower said:
this and all other kindles with the nook are popular only in the US. Once you go outside a few shops sell this at a large markup because they either it does not sell or very few competing shops
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True. It points to the fire being targeted at the us market. It will do very well here and lead to a lot of additional higher margin sales, which is what it is designed to do.
Free shipping and no taxes are primary reasons many people in the US use Amazon to buy things they could buy at the local stores, like coffee and tea.
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fenguinpower said:
seems to be very limited. It may be locked.to amazon prime or some.software like ipad is to.itunes.
And.it says it cannot connect.via adhoc wifi so no.tethering on a phone. So can are the pre order.sales right or just bloated figures?
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You wrong on the tetheting on your phone statement.It will not work with adhoc.But true tether is a.p.All devices will tether a.p(tabs,phones,laptops,xboxes,blurry you name it it will work)
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We'll never know.
Amazon won't release the actual numbers, just like they never did with the kindle. But this is not a direct competitor to the ipad, it's a mobile amazon storefront. I think of it as amazon version of the sears and Roebuck catalog.
More to the point..... No, it won't outsell the ipad, especially if you count global sales. It is possible though in the us market only. The backend is what is going to sell it. Content is King, not the device.
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Seriously, i'm very confident of Kindle fire, and i think it's only a matter of time with Fire beating ipad2 if Amazon can keep its developing on Kindle Fire apps.
Stuff on Amazon is far more that you can imagine on itunes, since Android run on Fire is individualized by Amazon, i'm pretty sure many apps especailly for Kindle Fire users will be published on its website. BTW, there are far more movies and music on Amazon
Its low price is really attractive too, anyway, not anyone wants to spend 3 times more money on a ipad2 for some samiliar usage.
This is the first time i keep asking myself my i'm not living in America for they don't deliver Kindle Fire to China.
fenguinpower said:
seems to be very limited. It may be locked.to amazon prime or some.software like ipad is to.itunes.
And.it says it cannot connect.via adhoc wifi so no.tethering on a phone. So can are the pre order.sales right or just bloated figures?
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The iPad is successful because it is simple, does what 99% of home consumers want to use it for, at a reasonable price.
I cringed watching android tablet makers try to "one up" the ipad in terms of features or specs... It's as though they completely didn't get why the ipad was successful to begin with.
Finally someone realizes who buys ipads, and what they are looking for. And to compete against "...but, 5 people I know have ipads", you have to undercut on price.
And yes, this level of undercutting is tempting to way more people.
AND, might finally open the door to Android tablets that compete in the ways ipads became successful to begin with.
Lord knows Microsoft doesn't understand why ipads took off... their train is headed on a 1 year journey to a ghost town, even if they kick marketing into high gear, sadly.
Amazon is one of the first companies who does get it, and is larger enough to back it with consumer confidence, like Apple did.
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**FINAL** HP TouchPad Fire Sale Starts November 1st

32GB Model HP TouchPads will be $149.99 with the exception of one thing........
YOU MUST PURCHASE A LAPTOP/DESKTOP IN ORDER TO GET THE TABLET FOR THE FIRE SALE PRICE.
If you purchase the TouchPad as a standalone device you will be charged $599.99
Good Job HP And Best Buy......GOOD JOB
So my question is....Who Is Taking The Plunge?
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395544,00.asp#fbid=gEAbSeNW-tS
That's dirty. Best Buy exclusive? Lame. You have to buy a junk laptop to lock into the fire sale. Wonder if they'd let it slide if you return the laptop. I guess they would catch it or have already set preventitive measures.
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That's dirty. Best Buy exclusive? Lame. You have to buy a junk laptop to lock into the fire sale. Wonder if they'd let it slide if you return the laptop. I guess they would catch it or have already set preventitive measures.
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If you return the laptop they will charge you the difference
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Wonder where they got that inventory... Not a terrible deal I suppose if you just had to have a prebuilt computer.
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i wonder if it'll still be effective around black friday time hmm...i need to buy a pc for the family
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i wonder if it'll still be effective around black friday time hmm...i need to buy a pc for the family
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They'd probably set a bar for Black Friday deals not apply or a price limit if they'll even have them around that time.
The only way I see this working is find someone that wants to buy a pc and go with them and you fork out the $150. Other than that I don't see anyone buying a pc just to get a touchpad. The first fire sale was bait for something like this.
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My mom needs a laptop, think Im gonna have her wait til the 1st. I dont need a TP but it would be nice to have just to flip for some extra cash.
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They'd probably set a bar for Black Friday deals not apply or a price limit if they'll even have them around that time.
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blah, that's why i don't shop at bestbuy much. glad i got my tp
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HP really played dirty on this one. I need a new laptop but am waiting to buy on BLACK FRIDAY. I was really pissed when i received the email stating they can't meet the demands for their last batch of touch pads (something like that). Now its only available in best buy SMH
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The only way I see this working is find someone that wants to buy a pc and go with them and you fork out the $150. Other than that I don't see anyone buying a pc just to get a touchpad. The first fire sale was bait for something like this.
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More than likely they want to capitalize on the hype the fire sale generated.
thats no good.. i have to spend money on a laptop then its cheaper?
paintballa809 said:
thats no good.. i have to spend money on a laptop then its cheaper?
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Your 2 weeks late anyway.
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I recently got an e-mail from Tiger Direct and they were doing this. Received it but about 20 minutes after I looked at it online, they were sold out.
Im just going to buy one off of ebay I found one for 180 new which was good enough for me. poor touchpad imo they looked so beautiful.

Why doesn't Best Buy sell the Nexus 7 ?

My best friend has a $200 gift card burning a hole in his pocket since July, And loves my Nexus 7 and I keep telling him to wait because demand was so high eventually Best Buy will sell the NExus 7 but time has passed and its not looking that way.
What gives?
i actually called my loacl best buy a few days after release because i was looking for one and customer service informed me that they would have it in stock soon but i have not called back since do to finding one elsewhere. however i do think they will get it, at some point.
A few years back I had a best buy gift card for 50 bucks, didn't need anything at the store....so I found something for 50 and returned it the next day and got cash back.
Not sure if it would work in that amount, buy worth a shot.
You could sell it on Craigslist for not much less, I've done it before.
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I got a bunch of best buy cards from that viggle app in hopes of buying a nexus 7. When I realized that they weren't going to sell it I sold the cards on plasticjungle. Com for 85%. Transferred the cash straight to my PayPal account.
I just bought mine at best buy yesterday...? But this was in Canada so maybe it's only Canadian best buys? Weird that Canada actually gets something before the states haha
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Its really weird that the don't. Google is losing a lot of sales by not being there.
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On that note, I only knew that best buy sold it because I made a spur of the moment decision to check the website. The store didn't even have them out on demo so I almost left empty handed but decided to ask an employee.
I think they're still having stocking problems. My local Walmart only have 3 each, and they just received them in the past few days. I have no idea why Walmart would have them instead of Best Buy, but maybe they just sold out fast? That's my opinion...
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BestBuy has them, in stores here the US.. At least that is where I got mine.
Try calling the stores in your area. I had to called 4 of them until I found one that had a 16GB in-stock.
Could always has the person they got the giftcard from if they still have the receipt, then return it for cash.
i bet apple is restricting the sales at best buy. best buy is really apple friendly, at least here in so Cal.
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You can go there, use your gift cards for other gift cards they have. I believe they have Amazon as well there.
huh...
At my bestbuy even if I just mention the nexus 7, a worker says "we don't carry the nexus 7 and will never carry it " I've heard that 3 times now, once when I was just talking to a friend about the one I bought at office depot. SO its kinda like they are obligated to say that? Hah who knows!
Before continuing on, I work for Best Buy, for another week.
cheesemuffins said:
I just bought mine at best buy yesterday...? But this was in Canada so maybe it's only Canadian best buys? Weird that Canada actually gets something before the states haha
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Best Buy Canada does carry the Nexus 7. Best Buy USA does not. The reason is BBYC has different agreements than BBYUSA.
AndresGalvan98 said:
I think they're still having stocking problems. My local Walmart only have 3 each, and they just received them in the past few days. I have no idea why Walmart would have them instead of Best Buy, but maybe they just sold out fast? That's my opinion...
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Nope. See above and below post.
KoolAidJunkie said:
BestBuy has them, in stores here the US.. At least that is where I got mine.
Try calling the stores in your area. I had to called 4 of them until I found one that had a 16GB in-stock.
Could always has the person they got the giftcard from if they still have the receipt, then return it for cash.
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How did you buy the Nexus 7 at a BBYUSA? If so can you please post a pic of the survey code at the bottom?
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At my bestbuy even if I just mention the nexus 7, a worker says "we don't carry the nexus 7 and will never carry it " I've heard that 3 times now, once when I was just talking to a friend about the one I bought at office depot. SO its kinda like they are obligated to say that? Hah who knows!
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We are not obligated to say that. It's just that Samsung and Amazon contracts make it so that BBYUSA cannot sell the Nexus 7 due to agreements between the two.
Really sucks, I went to Office Max.
...pretty sure...
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i bet apple is restricting the sales at best buy. best buy is really apple friendly, at least here in so Cal.
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I thought I read somewhere that Apple demanded certain Google products not be sold at Best Buy...not sure why something like a GS3 or Galaxy Tab 2 doesn't qualify....but I'm willing to bet thats the main reason BB hasn't carried them from DAY #1.
Anything can change at any time....and hope it does.
It probably has something to do with the price and the threat the nexus 7 poses to Apple.
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It's actually amazon's fault BB is not carrying the Nexus 7 or 10. They threatened to pull their products out if BB decided to carry those tablets. Obviously with so many variations of the Kindle BB would end up losing money if Amazon did pull their products so it makes sense for them. it's just stupid retail politics
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It's actually amazon's fault BB is not carrying the Nexus 7 or 10. They threatened to pull their products out if BB decided to carry those tablets. Obviously with so many variations of the Kindle BB would end up losing money if Amazon did pull their products so it makes sense for them. it's just stupid retail politics
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Sucks to live in a country where unethical behavior like this is allowed...
If this is true, it clearly falls foul of several of these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_antitrust_law
When I went to the US in October (Portland, ME) I had a really hard time finding an N7. Best Buy told me that they "Don't sell Google products" and I was like, ooookay. So after a bit of muffing about I finally found one at Staples. And they only had one in stock, so I snatched it up immediately.
Best Buy just had your standard iPad's, Nook's, and a few Samsung tablets. Really horrible selection, at least the one I went to was like that.

Just SOLD my Fire HDX 7"....

Just sold my Kindle Fire HDX due to the Actions of Amazon.
It is ridiculous to rip off Android software and lock it down like it's an Apple - WHO ACTUALLY DEVELOPS THEIR OWN SOFTWARE.
Jeff Bezos is the scum of the earth.
I will never buy another product from Amazon and I spent nearly $20,000 last year with them between and my business. My Prime is about to run out....and a long term loyal customer would chew out the greedy executives.
THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A SATELLITE MAP THAT WORKS ON IT!! RIDICULOUS!!
I ADVISE ALL TO DO THE SAME.
Android was all about open source....been in it since the beginning.....To rip off an older version of Android and lock it down due to greed is the American way.
Amazon is the scum of the earth.......NEVER AGAIN
Go ahead and rip into me......YOU KNOW I'M RIGHT.
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Just sold my Kindle Fire HDX due to the Actions of Amazon.
It is ridiculous to rip off Android software and lock it down like it's an Apple - WHO ACTUALLY DEVELOPS THEIR OWN SOFTWARE.
Jeff Bezos is the scum of the earth.
I will never buy another product from Amazon and I spent nearly $20,000 last year with them between and my business. My Prime is about to run out....and a long term loyal customer would chew out the greedy executives.
THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A SATELLITE MAP THAT WORKS ON IT!! RIDICULOUS!!
I ADVISE ALL TO DO THE SAME.
Android was all about open source....been in it since the beginning.....To rip off an older version of Android and lock it down due to greed is the American way.
Amazon is the scum of the earth.......NEVER AGAIN
Go ahead and rip into me......YOU KNOW I'M RIGHT.
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Each to their own I guess.
I for one like Amazon products and their customer service is second to none.
I also think the HDX is superb, but I did my research and knew exactly what I was buying and was under no illusions of what I could and couldn't do with it. For what I use it for, it's perfect.
You disagree, and that's perfectly fine, if we were all the same it'd be a boring place here
I just bought a 256 gig ssd for 50 bucks because I'd this thing. I'll buy the nexus 8 when it cokes out and use both
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