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Hi everyone,
The increase in speed and overall performance of the HD2 is truly impressive, even when upgrading from a capable device like the Raphael.
Still, when sifting through the various threads, I see more and more users either complaining about the speed of stock ROMs and/or praising custom ROMs for their performance.
I got my device with a stock ROM dated from Dec-09 (don't know the exact build cause I flashed it immediately ), and performance was a dream. I've tried a couple of cooked ROMs on top of it, and each one performed similarly: very responsive and incredibly fast.
That's when I started thinking: just how fast is really fast then? In other words: what makes a ROM appear fast? Is it how smooth you flip through the Manila tabs, load and scroll through web pages, install an application, copy files, play a video etc.? For me, it's all of it (well, kind of). And my Leo responds almost instantly whatever I want it to do which makes it a dream device to use.
Just curious to hear your opinion/experience on that.
Cheers.
In my opinion the Manila Part is really making the thing. Fast Manila means Fast Rom for me. And I like good results on my CorePlayer Benchmarks
Thats about what makes it feel "fast" for me.
whatever we get we always want more, human natures greed streak!
so yeah it is fast but until it moves faster than our brains react then people will not be happy!
me included.....
Fast manila
But according to me the problem with leo is not the speed or performance
in which there is no comparision at all
the basic prob. Lies is battery
so we want a rom with radio included best for least amount of battery consumption which i hav noticed lasts for less thn a day when ever htc sense is activated and of normal routine use
For me increases in speed are less noticeable than decreases. So when something does improve speed I don't notice it all that much and if I do, my mind quickly gets used to it. But if I do something that decreases speed it's immediately and forever noticeable.
I believe it depends on your aspect. I mean, can you catch the difference between the two sport cars when they are at the limit of their velocity like 300km/h and 310km/h with your senses. I can't
But could you measure it? of course yes.
So i think, it depends on which side are you stay.
For me it feels fast when i can scroll through the manila tabs really smoothly and fast
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But if I do something that decreases speed it's immediately and forever noticeable.
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Definitely...
Recently I was upgrading my good old Kaiser, I totally know what you mean
With the HD2, it's pretty difficult to make it slow, so I don't really think there is that speed aspect left now.
With ROMs, there's much less performance, much more about the features you want.
There are a few roms I have tried and noticed sense occasionally lag, and it instantly makes me change to a different rom. I know the phone is capable of being smooth so I wont put up with it not being.
For me, Sense must be fast, but opening the usual things like emails must be near instant too.
Fast = instant, no waiting, < 2 seconds to launch *any* app. Or in other words, iPhone 3GS-like performance (at least).
Of course, features and stability are also very important must-haves in custom roms.
aussiebum said:
Fast = instant, no waiting, < 2 seconds to launch *any* app. Or in other words, iPhone 3GS-like performance (at least).
Of course, features and stability are also very important must-haves in custom roms.
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The iPhone does something that WM doesn't do, and that is animate to a blank screen/splash screen before actually loading anything. Lots of games have splash screens that take an age to load, whereas WM just loads the program and when it's loaded it displays full screen.
I think there are two roms that set some good stds.
Xanny's Evolution rom is one of the fastest Manila Roms. Very quick and snappy in Manilla. Outside it is also good.
Kholk Eugneia Rom with the 1GHZ rom is average in some areas but some apps it is seriously fast. TomTom loads in a flat 2 secs with Aussie maps. Compared to 3.5 secs for most other roms.
If Xanny tries the 1Ghz hack then my phone might just melt.
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I think there are two roms that set some good stds.
Xanny's Evolution rom is one of the fastest Manila Roms. Very quick and snappy in Manilla. Outside it is also good.
Kholk Eugneia Rom with the 1GHZ rom is average in some areas but some apps it is seriously fast. TomTom loads in a flat 2 secs with Aussie maps. Compared to 3.5 secs for most other roms.
If Xanny tries the 1Ghz hack then my phone might just melt.
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That speed you are seeing is not from the 1ghz hack it is from Extendir which increases the speed of File systen read time. So opening some programs will be faster. The down side if it is not properly configured the Notes will not sync and cause other problems accessing the storage card like music etc.
fast is when,you listin to music+go to the setup installation+ browse websites
"fast" is very subjective judgement. i like to see my HD2 make smooth transitions from screen to screen and "clouds to moove smooth".
talking about fast in program loading only points out your unknowing of how stuff works expecialy when you compare things to iPhone.
fast with other name might be Android, which really works on phone raw power and not some cheap tricks to make it look smooth.
WWWROEOEOEOEMMMM that's fast!
Strange.
The 1ghz rom had quite slow disk access (SPB Bench) compared to Xanny's
However the 1Ghz Rom's CPU marks were faster than Xanny's
On average Xanny's rom is the least laggy of any rom. Very nice and snappy.
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That speed you are seeing is not from the 1ghz hack it is from Extendir which increases the speed of File systen read time. So opening some programs will be faster. The down side if it is not properly configured the Notes will not sync and cause other problems accessing the storage card like music etc.
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Laurentius26 said:
WWWROEOEOEOEMMMM that's fast!
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LOL
OK, from what I've seen so far, I conclude that it's mainly Manila that needs to be smooth and snappy to make the ROM appear fast. Makes sense, cause everything else is already super fast on this wonderful device.
I am relatively new with androids and never had another one except my Orange San Francisco which I got it preloaded with Cyanogen Mod 7. Up until now I thought that there is only that Rom for the blade, as it seems I was proven wrong by just taking a look in here.
I really want to make my phone go faster and the only thing I found was to use Data2Ext. I am not really sure what the other roms offer but I have had no problems with CM7 except that its relatively slow on even the desktop when I use different screen transition effects.
At any rate I would like to find out if Data2Ext will boost up its power a bit and will also go for any rom that will enhance the GPU to play some games a bit better. Could you please suggest a rom and let me know of a way to do data2ext? Or maybe a rom that has that option. Thank you very much
Data2ext just give you more free space in internal memory. Cm7 is very fast for me. lags on desktop are normal in adw.launcher. Try any other, for example launcher pro our go launcher
Edit: sorry, I thought you write data2sd. Data2ext will speed up the phone, I had it at my previous phone, very noticeable boost
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Well if CM7 is fine then I will stick with it. As for Data2Ext I have seen the results on a friends Huawei Ideos S7. The tablet was strong before it but after it was flying. I looked around for a way to do it but I am not really sure I found something that will actually work. Last thing I want is to brick my beloved Blade.
I recommend "Nemus Launcher".
But here are other excellent roms.
Swedish Snow RLS4b nice 3D performace
Elite Blade_Rom 2.3.5 (s5) as smooth as possible
Ginger SF r4 battery life is AWESOME!!!
Wow now these are a lot of recommendations. I guess I will first try the Elite blade one. Although I am more interested in data2ext. I have been trying to install it for a while but nothing seems to work sadly.
Hi All
I've been using ICS since pretty much day one when i bought the phone.
I realized the USB transfer speed when I copy files is very low.
in my phone around 1.3MB/s and on another 1.9MB/s
both are incredibly slow.
Could you guys help me determine whether this is a problem only affecting my phones, or is something ICS related?
Seems to be ICS related, many threads saying the same problem. I'm getting a middle-ground speed personally on ICS.
If you want to transfer large files, you might prefer doing it via mounting the sdcard through recovery (assuming you have a custom one, don't think stock can do this).
It is Google who may completely solve this problem...
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Seems to be ICS related, many threads saying the same problem. I'm getting a middle-ground speed personally on ICS.
If you want to transfer large files, you might prefer doing it via mounting the sdcard through recovery (assuming you have a custom one, don't think stock can do this).
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nope, GB has this problem too.
i opened a thread about this on the google support forums, but didnt get any helpful answers. nobody know how to solve this.
the transfer-rate just stays around 1.3 mb/s, tops (for me at least). this is painfully slow. i'm pretty sure google locks the speed somehow, for whatever reason.
on my n900 i get my usual 10-12 mb/s write speed, no matter if internal storage or microsd. why cant the nexus do this?
I wonder whether thee from devs are aware of this. Should be able to fix it.. how can we let them know?
I'm fairly certain the devs are aware of this. Maybe the CM team has something in mind here, i havn't tested sd speed on any CM9 ROM - or maybe they need some notification. It may not be a "bug" in the common sense, but possibly a series of underlying issues which increase the transfer rate. Maybe I'll test some things later to see if i can get a better idea on what is the cause.
For the record, I could get around 3-4MB/s on GB, i get around 2.5 - 3MB/s on ICS. In recovery i get closer to 4 - 4.5MB/s. The flash memory inside the Nexus S is quite slow write-wise, sadly. External SDCards rely entirely on the Class it is in, C2 will be very slow, C4 faster, up to C12 or whatever they have now which are happy to write Full HD video in real time.
got the same prob since beginning of the ics era ...
I'm kinda tired of flashing lots of roms to see which one is better. So i did some research and, although i really liked ICS, i've seen someone saying that GB is alot better, since ICS was built for higher-end devices. The matter is that those were old posts, things sure have changed during these years.
The question now is, based on performance, which is better for our HD2? GB or ICS?
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I'm kinda tired of flashing lots of roms to see which one is better. So i did some research and, although i really liked ICS, i've seen someone saying that GB is alot better, since ICS was built for higher-end devices. The matter is that those were old posts, things sure have changed during these years.
The question now is, based on performance, which is better for our HD2? GB or ICS?
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GB is more stable and faster for day-to-day usage, BUT has fewer features, an uglier UI and no HWA (making gaming and web browsing comparatively awful).
ICS has HWA so is best for gaming and web browsing and is still reasonably stable and smooth. I personally would go for ICS because it's just nicer to use, but it's all a matter of opinion and nobody can really tell you which to choose.
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GB is more stable and faster for day-to-day usage, BUT has fewer features, an uglier UI and no HWA (making gaming and web browsing comparatively awful).
ICS has HWA so is best for gaming and web browsing and is still reasonably stable and smooth. I personally would go for ICS because it's just nicer to use, but it's all a matter of opinion and nobody can really tell you which to choose.
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That's what i was missing, HWA. I didn't know GB had no HWA. That really helped, thanks a bunch
g0ldb3rg said:
I'm kinda tired of flashing lots of roms to see which one is better. So i did some research and, although i really liked ICS, i've seen someone saying that GB is alot better, since ICS was built for higher-end devices. The matter is that those were old posts, things sure have changed during these years.
The question now is, based on performance, which is better for our HD2? GB or ICS?
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Ive used both ICS and GB. Let me tell you, GB seems to be alot better than ICS for day to day use. The 2D games run fine on GB. And the web browsing, although not BLAZING fast like on ICS, is really tolerable. GB on my specific phone seems alot stable than ICS, faster too. Ive been using Typhoon's rom for the past 2 months and its working GREAT so far.
But if the HD2 is your secondary phone, no need to go for GB. Just use ICS
Cheers
adil1508 said:
Ive used both ICS and GB. Let me tell you, GB seems to be alot better than ICS for day to day use. The 2D games run fine on GB. And the web browsing, although not BLAZING fast like on ICS, is really tolerable. GB on my specific phone seems alot stable than ICS, faster too. Ive been using Typhoon's rom for the past 2 months and its working GREAT so far.
But if the HD2 is your secondary phone, no need to go for GB. Just use ICS
Cheers
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I can confirm that. Above all, the data connection is a very little bit more stable under GB. With some effort, but definitely worth to try DataOnExt variants under ICS or JB! If you have time to do that, you can rise your system partition to about 400MBs and have enough space and power to switch to your HD2 as primary phone!
I'm running tytungs NexusHD2-JellyBean-CM10 V1.4a and it works like a charm!
Greetings
I have been using both ICS and GB and to my experience I think GB feels a lot faster and more stable.
Loading a couple of hundreds of SMS messages in ICS for the first time takes ages (while in GB is considerably faster), frequent freezes forcing to take battery out, etc.
On the other hand ICS has more features (HWA, Sound Profiles, Lock Screen Widgets, Quick Settings in Notification, better screen resolution) and I think has better in-call quality than GB.
A word of warning though. The stability and responsiveness depend on the chosen ROM. I personally prefer tytung's ROMS and I usually opt-out for NAND installations (although I have also tried NativeSD version of Jelly Bean with class 10 MicroSD card).
Hope I helped.
GB feels alot faster faster then ICS. and if you dont like the look of GB, try MIUI imo its the best combo for smoothness and stable as stock GB and it looks nice and stylish
Just got NOTE1 from friend who jump to other SS note family due to this one so lag.
Have upgraded it to stock rom 4.1.2 from ICS last month. Anyway, battery life and speed still so bad.
After play around for some more week (never try any custom rom so far) I found small trick (which I wish it become a big trick across other Android device). I just "REMOVE" SD card out from the slot, reinstal app to only internal storage. I got a very good battery life and faster speed.
I post this small trick just to ask someone who have time to prove this. For stock rom I get a good improvement. So it will be a hug help to those custom rom who has good optimization already.
If my understanding correcly. The other phone don't have external storage bay (like I-phone) has better performance in this two espect, may be from this (not)special feature.
Thanks.
jlover said:
Just got NOTE1 from friend who jump to other SS note family due to this one so lag.
Have upgraded it to stock rom 4.1.2 from ICS last month. Anyway, battery life and speed still so bad.
After play around for some more week (never try any custom rom so far) I found small trick (which I wish it become a big trick across other Android device). I just "REMOVE" SD card out from the slot, reinstal app to only internal storage. I got a very good battery life and faster speed.
I post this small trick just to ask someone who have time to prove this. For stock rom I get a good improvement. So it will be a hug help to those custom rom who has good optimization already.
If my understanding correcly. The other phone don't have external storage bay (like I-phone) has better performance in this two espect, may be from this (not)special feature.
Thanks.
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I proved it some weeks ago, I'm experienced this "booster", but I thought was only my placebo Nice to hear that I'm not the only person who noted this "trick". Stock JB ROM Philz CWR ROOT
reluctance to custom rom
combine with a few power saving option such as, disable voice command, hi galaxy, 2g/3g, etc. we will easily get longer battery life.
have use Wakelock. found the 'MS Exchange service' and 'voive command' in 1&2 top list.
hope this simole trick effective to other mobile also. they can extend their battery life, not to trow away their battery fast, help save environment.
for me i feel reluctance to go fo custom rom now though having search a few days ago.