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Whose considering a Synapse Phone

With all N1 alternative threads, I'm surprised I haven't seen the synapse phone mentioned more, so I thought I would start a thread
I am quite heavily considering it. Tho I think I wanna wait for series 2, just to make sure custom rom community is there. Being rooted and unlocked bootloader from factory. But I think I should buy one to ensure there is a series 2
So who else is considering one of these synapse phones? To maybe replace their N1
Rellikzephyr
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I heard that was too good to be true, and is a scam.
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Seriously interested but this idea must cost a fortune
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msavic6 said:
I heard that was too good to be true, and is a scam.
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I hope not, I love the idea
Rellikzephyr
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wtf how cheap is this phone to start with? They're charging you extra for the most basic smartphone features...like a 3.5 mm jack!
*edit*
just modified my phone to personal liking, almost $900!

Read the remarks for a good analysis:
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/19/ger...g-custom-built-android-2-2-handsets-possibly/
Not going to happen.

So not a scam, but prob not gonna happen considering company resources
Damn
Rellikzephyr
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Man that seems like such a good idea....
The first day someone posted about it on gizmodo or something, I went and looked at the prices. I "built" a phone using all of components that would put it above similar phones spec wise, it was going to cost about $900 USD.
Considering I spent my entire summer savings on my Nexus One ($580 + ~$20 for screen protectors, case, etc = $600) It's not necessarily a good or bad value. If I had that type of expendable income, I would totally go for it!
The concept is cool though - make a phone that caters to your needs. I wish an American company would try this! Maybe Google? "Nexus 2 - Have It YOUR WAY!"

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"Nexus 2 - Have It YOUR WAY!"
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hahahahahaa. Somehow, equating a $500+ phone to fast food just doesn't leave a good taste in my mouth. lol

It's an interesting idea - I won't be in the market for a new phone until September 2011 so will keep an eye on them until then. That should be enough time for them to succeed / fail.
I like the idea of a 3 year warranty..

sounds like a good idea, but they are being jackasses, 256mb of ram as the basic mode want more ram? well pay up, which is just plain 2008 or wifi, 3.5mm as options when these are basic necessities for a smartphone.

Seems more like a dream idea than an actual production device

wdfowty said:
hahahahahaa. Somehow, equating a $500+ phone to fast food just doesn't leave a good taste in my mouth. lol
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hhmm ...
Sounds like the makings of a tasty burger!
Hold the lettuce, gimme 512RAM.
86 the onions and gimme titanium back plate.
And please add bacon and the infinite touch capacitive touch screen. EXTRA? Yeah, I know, that's ok! I like bacon!

Alright I'm bumping this thread up just to show everyone there's a better alternative to the Nexus S.
And the website is pretty much working for me now. Though there's no option for me to preorder yet, but I'm more excited about this than the other phone.
Synapse-Phone.

If this true I will buy one for sure...just wanna see some in the wild and read some reviews...I will most def pass on the Nexus S
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Prices are not that awful for what I need, I end up at 500 or so USD
Obviously, I didn't put 4G and hdmi, radio, etc. since I don't use them and 4G won't be appearing in Canada for a while ^^
I'll see how it gets when they start actually selling the phones...it's an awesome idea honestly, I just hope they succeed! Go germans go

3 years warranty? Amazing if true. That alone is worth it! And finally a xenon flash for an android phone.

Custom spec phone?
I would say you're on your own as far as custom ROMs go...?
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Problem with Synapse phones... They advert DVB/T for US, but US uses ATSC!

musashiken said:
Alright I'm bumping this thread up just to show everyone there's a better alternative to the Nexus S.
And the website is pretty much working for me now. Though there's no option for me to preorder yet, but I'm more excited about this than the other phone.
Synapse-Phone.
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Oh, great. Bumping a fake phone as a better alternative to another, rumor-based phone. Excellent idea.

CyanogenMod?

Is it possible for us to start working on a port of it now that we have a functional Clockwork Recovery from Koush?
Edit:
$100 currently pooled for the person who gets fully functional CyanogenMod working on the Tab. (T-Mobile)
If you'd like to make any other contributions to this pool, post it in this thread and we'll get a rough idea of how much money we can send someones way once they get this thing functional and easy to install.

Yep, go ahead and get started on it.

It's unlikely that CM6 will come to the Tab any time soon (if ever...), as they are JUST getting some early betas out for the SGS.
The work required to get it working on any new phone/tablet is immense, and therefor I doubt it'll come to the SGT simply because they don't have the time.... or the Tabs.

Well we have Clockwork and I believe we have the source (right?), so..
Money is a good motivator. I'm willing to donate $100 to the first person who gets a working beta of CM ported to the Tab.

Cyan 6 will be perfect for the Tab I will be the 1st Modify Cyan for an Android Tab.

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Yep, go ahead and get started on it.
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Your attitude towards people seriously stinks. Every post ive seen of yours has been unpleasent. Do us all a favour. If you dont like a thread or someones comments, don't post and move along.
Are all of you several hundred posts digs or snide comments I wonder?
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Your attitude towards people seriously stinks. Every post ive seen of yours has been unpleasent. Do us all a favour. If you dont like a thread or someones comments, don't post and move along.
Are all of you several hundred posts digs or snide comments I wonder?
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Instead of clicking "Reply" to people like this, I just click "Report".

The Physician said:
Instead of clicking "Reply" to people like this, I just click "Report".
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yes thats the same way i am dealing with those individuals!
and i dont think it will be easy to port CM6.1 to the Tab because we would need to rewrite most of the apps because of the higher resolution!

Its gonna be a bit more difficult than porting over. Youll have to rewrite most of the xmls and completely redo a lot of the graphics.
To whoever ports it though, ill give you my cousin, a cat and a sandwich of your choice.
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How about stock android without carrier apps?
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How about stock android without carrier apps?
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Could carrier apps just be removed with root?

I don't have a tab but I would assume if you have it rooted, you can just download titanium backup from the market and delete carrier apps through it.
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I dunno if straying away from the stock Rom is the best idea. Right now as we have it, everything works. Going AOSP will probably break everything. I think its best to take a stock Rom and modify it. I'd like if the menus were black rather then white, but that's just a themeing issue.
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i dont know why people are thinking this will be crazy impossible. has anyone visited the viewsonic g tablet xda forum? you realize its a 10.1 in screen and its running cyanogenmod. i dont think it will be that hard to get it on, the real question is WHO will do. its possible and the screen size isnt an issue, just gotta find someone who actually owns this and wants to modify it. i actually like touchwiz, it works well. but the tab just needs to be optimized.

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i dont know why people are thinking this will be crazy impossible. has anyone visited the viewsonic g tablet xda forum? you realize its a 10.1 in screen and its running cyanogenmod. i dont think it will be that hard to get it on, the real question is WHO will do. its possible and the screen size isnt an issue, just gotta find someone who actually owns this and wants to modify it. i actually like touchwiz, it works well. but the tab just needs to be optimized.
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Its not a case of screen size, although that would be an issue with porting, its more like 'who on the CM team has a Galaxy device?' I havent heard of a release for any of the Galaxy devices (i dont check often but its usually big news if they expand the phones theyre working on)
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Count me in for $10 donation for cynogenmod rom. I have a carrier unlocked Indian version of the tab.

Pretty sure this is development, and not a general topic.
Either move it, or I'll open up a new one in the proper section.
Is developing a CyanogenMod port for the Galaxy Tab:
A) Development
B) General Galaxy Tab discussion.
Um, duh?

[$$$$$]Honeycomb Port

I am going to donate 20$ for whom releases honeycomb for us
Closed until furthur notice.
regrets if inconvienience caused.

Haha. I'm with you. Seriously.
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I'm.gonna donate 10. Who will give less for so sweet tomb? ;-)
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Is HoneyTomb some new game?
If you mean HoneyComb then you're going to be waiting until there's something official to work from unless you want a virtually useless SDK build. As yet it's not out there.

wait will come. how long you purchased sgt. ;-)
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May I suggest changing the thread title to [Bounty] Honeycomb Port? The title "Bounty" is more consistent with other bounty threads I've seen here on XDA.
Once official is released (not SDK), I have $40 for a working CDMA port.

All I gotta say is, how in the world does the nook get a honeycomb port and we're left in the dust.....wtf! Thats an ebook reader
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Obvisouly a very open and easy platform to mod. Hopefully After the 2nd we will have something to work w/.

knightnz said:
Is HoneyTomb some new game?
If you mean HoneyComb then you're going to be waiting until there's something official to work from unless you want a virtually useless SDK build. As yet it's not out there.
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Ahhh... i assume you haven't seen the development on the nook color honeycomb port then

knightnz said:
Is HoneyTomb some new game?
If you mean HoneyComb then you're going to be waiting until there's something official to work from unless you want a virtually useless SDK build. As yet it's not out there.
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That's not true. You can get make a working rom from SDK builds, but it'll (probably) be laggy and a lot of things won't work as it should. The wonders they've done on the Nook is amazing IMHO. Hats off to them.
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I will put some dollars in for this.

If someone ports honeycomb to the Galaxy tab, I will first buy a Galaxy tab immediately... and then donate to whoever did it!

I'll throw £20 into this!

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Ahhh... i assume you haven't seen the development on the nook color honeycomb port then
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Oh I've seen it. Whilst impressive, it's still a glorified tech demo. It's certainly not very useful as a full system.
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That's not true. You can get make a working rom from SDK builds, but it'll (probably) be laggy and a lot of things won't work as it should.
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Pretty sure that's basically what I said. "virtually useless" = "lot of things won't work as it should". The usual suspects of GPS and Camera will be high on that list.
If people are happy with a system with very few native apps which is slow & unstable (ala the Nook "port"), then sure, go for it. Otherwise you're still going to be waiting for AOSP to drop, (which may be later today, but I'm not holding my breath), or for an official firmware to rip apart. Then someone needs to hack the hardware-specific drivers into life on the tab, might be a piece of cake if the 2.x source is friendly with the 3.0 libraries, someone more coding-minded would need to assess that one.
I'm all for someone hacking something together to have a play with to see what it looks like, I just hope people aren't expecting a release-quality port based off an SDK "demo".

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If someone ports honeycomb to the Galaxy tab, I will first buy a Galaxy tab immediately... and then donate to whoever did it!
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Scratch that... I bought one today haha

Ill put down $25

ill give $100

I'd give and keep giving as long as development continues, I would love a fully functional honeycomb port. To be honest I'm dying to get something as smooth and fast as cyanogen on my tab cause I hate the fact that my nexus one performs better than my tab, faster, and has more features than my tablet =\ especially since the tablet has more powerful hardware. I can't wait for honeycomb and I'd freakin subscribe if there was a donation subscription.

Dont forget to watch the live stream today from the Google event.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/google-announces-android-event-for-february-2nd/
www.youtube.com/android
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I'll give $50 no joke.

Nexus Tablet!

I have been looking at buying the Asus Transformer Prime. And was pretty much sold on it until I ran across this..
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http://www.android-advice.com/2011/the-official-google-branded-nexus-tablet/
Anyone seen any specs on it?
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I was pissed when i heard this cuz i just but the Asus Transformer 3weeks ago and now i hear about this.. This Nexus Tablet batter make it toss my Asus Transformer out the window.. Cuz i dont see no improvement hardware wise with the galaxy nexus vs galaxy s2

if you want one now, the xoom is basically an nexus tablet. well just have wait an see, for an few months.

If Nexus Tab:Nexus Phone::Galaxy Tab:Galaxy Phone, I'll stick with Galaxy phones and tabs for superior hardware, since Touchwiz is becoming driver support rather than ui.

txtmikhail said:
I was pissed when i heard this
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I can totally understand that. I would be pissed too!
How has the Transformer been for you so far? Any regrets buying it besides a newer model coming out?
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if you want one now, the xoom is basically an nexus tablet. well just have wait an see, for an few months.
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Ya I do want one now! I have trying to hold out for the Transformer 2, but I have almost went and grabbed something else on a couple occasions now. ;-) Normally I am fairly patient though, so I can wait if I think I'm getting a better product. I have looked at the xoom a couple times. Something rubs me wrong with it though. Maybe the whole Motorola and locked boot loader fiasco. I am not sure this applies to the xoom however and maybe just their phones. I keep getting the feeling of some hidden hoopla I'm going to run across.
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If Nexus Tab:Nexus Phone::Galaxy Tab:Galaxy Phone, I'll stick with Galaxy phones and tabs for superior hardware, since Touchwiz is becoming driver support rather than ui.
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It's been hard for me not to just grab a samsung tab and be done with it! I have enjoyed my epic and the hardware has been outstanding! I guess there are two things keeping me from doing that
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1) The tegra 3 quad core in the prime. (hardware)
2) Just wanting something a lil different from my phone I guess.
The main things that are important to me is hardware, and developer support. The Epic would just not be the same without either of those! So, I want that in a tablet as well.
I also will need to get a windows 8 tablet due to my job so I wanted to keep the price down on the android tablet. However that Transformer Primes hardware and promises of ICS soon is making that tough! ;-)

Well, from doing some more digging with google it looks like their tablet is still 6 months away.
However, I am in the market for a tablet before then. Looks like google won't be getting my money this time around!
Hopefully they will release details on specs at CES in January as I am curious what's in it.

D-Buckner said:
I can totally understand that. I would be pissed too!
How has the Transformer been for you so far? Any regrets buying it besides a newer model
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IM loving this thing. I use it for everything .. I just wish it had a lil more support when it comes to development.. No im not upset about prime cuz i got my transformer for a good deal and plus quad-core is only good for gaming which i dont do much of on a tablet..
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I hope every one realizes this is purely rumor at this point.

zanderman112 said:
I hope every one realizes this is purely rumor at this point.
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If only there was a rumor thread.

The Root said:
If only there was a rumor thread.
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I saw that coming lol. I was gonna update it yesterday, but i got sidetracked lol

The Root said:
If only there was a rumor thread.
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LOL ^^^^^ this ^^^^^ LOL

zanderman112 said:
I hope every one realizes this is purely rumor at this point.
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maybe I jumped the gun a little on this one. Nice catch!
I blame the article and those darn journalist however! ;-) After all, the article title does say official! Plus it was 4 am or so when I read it.

The Root said:
If Nexus Tab:Nexus Phone::Galaxy Tab:Galaxy Phone, I'll stick with Galaxy phones and tabs for superior hardware, since Touchwiz is becoming driver support rather than ui.
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Agree - I've been eyeing a Galaxy Tab myself, thinking of upgrading from the Nook. Hopefully though, the Google tablet does happen - the more choices, the merrier

dohturdima said:
Agree - I've been eyeing a Galaxy Tab myself, thinking of upgrading from the Nook. Hopefully though, the Google tablet does happen - the more choices, the merrier
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Galaxy Tab 11.6 is coming in like February and sounds sick.

txtmikhail said:
IM loving this thing. I use it for everything .. I just wish it had a lil more support when it comes to development.. No im not upset about prime cuz i got my transformer for a good deal and plus quad-core is only good for gaming which i dont do much of on a tablet..
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If you hold tight, I'm sure there will be a TON of development for that device. It's the premire Android Tablet right now, so I expect some great things for it. Since it's so new and not everyone has one yet, dev will be a bit slow at the get-go, but I can assure you, it will pick up...and you'll be very happy.

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If you hold tight, I'm sure there will be a TON of development for that device. It's the premire Android Tablet right now, so I expect some great things for it. Since it's so new and not everyone has one yet, dev will be a bit slow at the get-go, but I can assure you, it will pick up...and you'll be very happy.
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Yea i know.. I read that cm9 is coming to the Transformer which im so happy cuz im pretty sure we'll get it before the Epic 4g does..
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Cheap knock-off phones?

Hello members, so i was reading about the GooPhone that is supposedly patented with the Iphone 5 design in China. They are apparently ready to sue apple once the phone is released.
Anyway it led me to a site that has android/windows/blackberry devices.
Now they seem legit, have looked around and seen that there are some reviews, only negative comments are about the long shipping.
My question is, has anyone here ever ordered from this site.
http://www.fastcardtech.com/
I was interested in maybe ordering a device playing with it for a while, then maybe sending to a dev to see if the components would match that of its US counterpart to see if custom ROMS would be able to be installed.
So please read, look, get interested, and chat about the site!!!!
:good::good::good:

Wondering myself if could get the knock off galaxy s 3 and put gs3 ROM on it or brick it
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Chinese knock-offs
Here's a few more to add to the list:
http://www.hdc.cn/
http://www.lovebargaining.com/
http://android-sale.com/

leezrd said:
Wondering myself if could get the knock off galaxy s 3 and put gs3 ROM on it or brick it
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I posted a question to a couple of devices, they claim that they have official
google play app. Wondering the same. I have an upgrade available but nothing catching my eye to use it.
Apaca1ypse said:
Here's a few more to add to the list:
http://www.hdc.cn/
http://www.lovebargaining.com/
http://android-sale.com/
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Awesome. That's nice im really thinking of ordering one this weekend.
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If you want something cheap, look into Huawei, ZTE, Alcatel or Lenovo Phones, most models have decent development and they have great specs for the price.

hmm what should i get? Help me out here guys
Option 1. Legit Galaxy S3
Option 2. http://android-sale.com/oppo-finder.html
Option 3. 5.3" Galaxy S3 instead of the 4.8" http://android-sale.com/hdc-galaxy-...-1ghz-dual-core-8mp-camera-android-phone.html
sooo which one!?!?

PantechBurstOwner said:
hmm what should i get? Help me out here guys
Option 1. Legit Galaxy S3
Option 2. http://android-sale.com/oppo-finder.html
Option 3. 5.3" Galaxy S3 instead of the 4.8"
sooo which one!?!?
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Me personally I want a big screen. I'm thinking of getting the Star galaxy note with 5.3 screen. And was told that it does come with Google play
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primus123 said:
Me personally I want a big screen. I'm thinking of getting the Star galaxy note with 5.3 screen. And was told that it does come with Google play
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I really like the OPPO one gonna watch a review or two on it if i can find one in english lmao but the 5.3in galaxy s3 is very cool so i guess ill try to find a review for both

PantechBurstOwner said:
I really like the OPPO one gonna watch a review or two on it if i can find one in english lmao but the 5.3in galaxy s3 is very cool so i guess ill try to find a review for both
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Yeah. I've been looking. I think its a good deal. If phone works pretty well may get more like them.
Like I stated. I have an upgrade,I'm with TMOUS so right now not sure. Hoping the Note2 makes its way over. Soon
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primus123 said:
Yeah. I've been looking. I think its a good deal. If phone works pretty well may get more like them.
Like I stated. I have an upgrade,I'm with TMOUS so right now not sure. Hoping the Note2 makes its way over. Soon
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Dafauq? http://android-sale.com/viewsonic-n9880-6-inch-screen-3g-gps-5mp-camera-android-phone.html
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a 6" phone... holy crap... are these any good? My mother has been wanting a Galaxy note for the screen size but she uses none of the features of a smart phone other than basic calendar and to do tasks. This would be great....

Element515 said:
a 6" phone... holy crap... are these any good? My mother has been wanting a Galaxy note for the screen size but she uses none of the features of a smart phone other than basic calendar and to do tasks. This would be great....
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If she really doesn't do anything on it then I would get out for her because 512mb of ram is the same a an IPhone which has fast enough speed for every day tasks not sure if she will need more than 4GB of space but there is a microsd slot up to 32GB so that might help 1GHz processor is beyond overkill for what you said she does so sure why not!
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After some careful research, and some digging into chinese forums. These phones are complete fakes.
It seems that they may not ever make it stateside. They also have IMEI problems, so they may work for a week, but after that they seem to start having disconnect problems. Also looks like the GPS will not work, being that it is based in China satelittes will not transmit here.
I almost bought one today, like 3 times, but after more and more digging, I have decided not too.
This seems to be a complete scam. There are a bunch of sites claiming fraudulent accounts among the site as well.
What seemed so nice quickly slips away.

primus123 said:
After some careful research, and some digging into chinese forums. These phones are complete fakes.
It seems that they may not ever make it stateside. They also have IMEI problems, so they may work for a week, but after that they seem to start having disconnect problems. Also looks like the GPS will not work, being that it is based in China satelittes will not transmit here.
I almost bought one today, like 3 times, but after more and more digging, I have decided not too.
This seems to be a complete scam. There are a bunch of sites claiming fraudulent accounts among the site as well.
What seemed so nice quickly slips away.
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Ouch... Buzzkill... Guess I should've done a little more digging before posting those sites. BTW, do you have any reference links?

I first went on www.fastcardtech.com/forums and was reading the results of users. Alot sounded pretty upset. Although there are not very many replies, there are some feedback.
I asked a question about a device, and then asked the same question again 2days later, and got a different answer. I will do it again, and get a screen shot so that I can show you all. There was another forum in XDA about the site, there are some saying its legit, others not so much.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561534
Will post back with more.
I am still considering ordering one, just havent decided yet. I know as soon as I do that they will announce the Note 2 for Tmobile.

I have found a few more credible sites, there is,
www.koobay.com
www.exportandgo.com
Upon searching the fastcardtech site brands devices to companies that dont actually have these devices. For instance, I have found the HDC (china phone maker) and they list their products, then you reference the FTC site and there are thousand of HDC branded devices that are not actually HDC brand!

I've seen an apple S4 by them. The screen res is terrible.it had virtually no memory. Build was terrible. Do not waste your money. I'm sure no rom with work on them.
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They are only cosmetic copies, and thats vague to say the least. They are not worth $20
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I think I'm going to go with the 6inch view sonic N9880. Its a nice phone. Google certified with Play store.
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Tell us how it goes!
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any of these knockoffs will not work with any of the regular roms, you would have to make a rom for that knock off device model.. as you can imagine without a lot of people owning them your chances of getting a good rom is slim.