I use American Android build and I want to use all my ram, we're supposed tohave 512 mb but with almost everything but the essentials closed I only have 250 - 260 available at best. I have some apps that use a lot if juice to run like gta3 and I can't get it to run smoothly. What can I do?
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jamezjigga said:
I use American Android build and I want to use all my ram, we're supposed tohave 512 mb but with almost everything but the essentials closed I only have 250 - 260 available at best. I have some apps that use a lot if juice to run like gta3 and I can't get it to run smoothly. What can I do?
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250-260 is very good. I only get around 250 straight after startup, and generally 180. Think about it logically, how the hell are you supposed to get 512 mb of free RAM when the entire OS has to utilise it? Have some common sense
( its not 512mb starting total, its 576 less 128 gfx less the 20/30 meg android somehow loses = 411-420 meg total ram, and then subtract whatever the system components use)
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when comparing the hd2 with other devices with only 512 mb ram on system info it hd2 shows (422mb ) on other devices it shows (488) which is higher also hd2 has 576 mb ram which is higher than 512 , that makes me believe that 576 is not really functioning on android
I supose, the 40 or 60mb remaining, are for graphics memory, or system proceces.
I'm not sure.
But if now dont have 575mb... never we get all the ram
tomeu0000 said:
I supose, the 40 or 60mb remaining, are for graphics memory, or system proceces.
I'm not sure.
But if now dont have 575mb... never we get all the ram
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it is more tahn 40 to 6o we are missing allot about 154 mb ram , i will ask at the desire forum and know what they get (as same ram amount as hd2 )
i beleave there are a few ppl out there who have the full 575 mb running. One big but thoug u wil need a radio with the 575 mb in windows mobile. If not your phone is soft locked on the 488mb
shuntje said:
i beleave there are a few ppl out there who have the full 575 mb running. One big but thoug u wil need a radio with the 575 mb in windows mobile. If not your phone is soft locked on the 488mb
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does radio in wimdows mobile has any thing to do with ram amount in android , can any one confirm having more than 422 mb ram when using 576 mb enabled roms
Can someone confirm the amount of RAM that is available to the user? There were rumors that only 512mb was available (leaving the other 512 for the laptop dock). However, I've also heard that around 800mb was available to the user (meaning the full gig, essentially). To easily see this, download Android System Info from the market, open it, and on the first page/tab you can see RAM (total available, etc.)....
Thanks in advance!
I, too, would like to know the answer to this. It would be pretty weak of Motorola if it only allowed 512 of it to be used.
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I would like to know this as well.
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It says 425M available + 172 if I'm not mistaken.
From android system info there is 818MB RAM available, but after killing all threads the free RAM is no more than 510MB
motoblur/android cant be gobbling up 512mb worth of RAM. perhaps some is allocated to webtop? i would be very dissapointed if that were the case.
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Mine says 818MB with 432 available.
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Bit advanced task killer only shows 394 + 111
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Mine says..
Max: 818MB
Free: 280MB
Maybe it allocates 512mb for webtop and when the other 512mb (or whatever size after format) runs out it starts using the 512mb from the webtop
Jesus i hope that's not true, there has to be a way to disable that.
Hey guys, those of you with the device, go into the "tasks" tab of Android System Info.....here you should be able to see EVERYTHING that is consuming memory.....in a task killer, you likely won't be able to kill everything (and you shouldn't). For example, on my inspire, there are a lot of core processes and things that wouldnt show up in a task killer (like phone, etc.). A close look in this tab should give us a clearer picture. It does, however, appear that the full gig (essentially) is available. My inspire's ram is 768 and my max ram is 623, so the atrix seems somewhat comparable in the proportion of available ram.
I am wondering what is the deal with our HD2 (TMOUS version I have), supposedly our phones have 576mb of ram internally, but on every rom I have tried I am limiting to something much lower according to running services or quaddrant system info, I have flashed 2.15.50.14 radio which is supposed to have the 576mb of ram, from my understanding the phone shares 128mb of ram for video which leaves 448mb to use but I don't even have that according to running services. According to my phone I am using 90mb of ram and 292mb are free which is a grand total of 382mb of ram my phone has access to, where is the other ram?? I am getting really frustrated searching google and stuff trying to find answers, I know its a difference of about 64mb that I think im missing here but its the principle that our phones should have 576mb of ram and im over here getting 382 on every rom I try. Anyone have some ideas on this??
I would like to add that I just checked quadrant system information and this is what it says.
Memory:
Total: 421004 KB
Free: 172356 KB
Inactive: 46692 KB
Doesn't this mean about 50mb of ram is inactive? I don't understand the deal with that.
The missing ram is taken by the GPU.
Please reread my post completely, I think you missed something, I covered the gpu using some of the ram in my original post.
i would say those figures are 421MB total ram, 172MB out of 421MB is genuinely free, and 46MB is loaded with apps that have stopped but not been unloaded from memory.
Example, mine says
421004
80228
85188
i start a few programs and go back to quadrant, and it changes to
421004
85140
88916
As mentioned, the graphics chipset takes up 128 meg, and it grabs it before the OS has even loaded, so it never sees it, so you start with 448MB total. For some reason Android loses 25 or so MB, and so we all (tmous and regular) show total RAM as 422 or so.
As said the system and the GPU takes it. Come on do you think the guys who made linux would really be as stupid as to just leave out some ram for no one to use or for it not be used? Or any person who makes an operating system?
We have been using 192 mb ( i'm not certain) of RAM in every port of android.... but we all know our photon has been equiped with 384 mb of RAM can't we mapped the whole RAM for the android porting yet... i think now we can map it for faster android experience.
Developers can't it be done? or we have to run our photon android on 192 mb of ram forever....
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We have been using 192 mb ( i'm not certain) of RAM in every port of android.... but we all know our photon has been equiped with 384 mb of RAM can't we mapped the whole RAM for the android porting yet... i think now we can map it for faster android experience.
Developers can't it be done? or we have to run our photon android on 192 mb of ram forever....
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192? I see that 280mb total ram in android, almost as WM (296).
I've read that 1 of the 2gb of RAM is used for the touchwiz so you effectively only have 1gb. If you install a custom rom, ie. cyanogenmod, do you get to use the full 2gb then?
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I've read that 1 of the 2gb of RAM is used for the touchwiz so you effectively only have 1gb. If you install a custom rom, ie. cyanogenmod, do you get to use the full 2gb then?
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Pretty sure its ICS that takes up the space and its not a full GB. I don't have the phone but a friend has around 1.6 - 1.7 Gigs free at max.
I don't think that would work out, considering the international GS3 has 1GB of RAM and runs TouchWiz.
So much confusion, let's spell this out. First of all our phones have 2gb ram, period. The GPU requires about 0.38gb of the system's 2gb because it doesn't have its own onboard memory. So no matter what software you run, you'll be starting out around 1.62 available.
Different operating systems, frameworks, skins, and applications will have different memory footprints. Touchwiz is probably a bit heavier than AOSP (CM/AOKP), so after a clean boot you'll probably have more free ram running an AOSP variant.
Honestly its all kind of moot at this point however, because I doubt in either situation most people get anywhere near using the all remaining RAM with current ROM offerings. Key lime pie may be another story.
Yeah to his point about not using the RAM is just stupid, unused ram is wasted ram meaning you have it for nothing, for example on stock cm9 you got 1.2 gb free most of the time, 500-600mb free, touchwiz manage ram better but still leaves a lot behind, look up what ram does and you will understand why unused ram is useless
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Yeah to his point about not using the RAM is just stupid, unused ram is wasted ram meaning you have it for nothing, for example on stock cm9 you got 1.2 gb free most of the time, 500-600mb free, touchwiz manage ram better but still leaves a lot behind, look up what ram does and you will understand why unused ram is useless
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Isn't it ideal to have unused RAM so that when you open apps and multitask, you the memory to keep them alive? Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but if we never had unused Ram then we would never be able to multitask, right?
Spartoi said:
Isn't it ideal to have unused RAM so that when you open apps and multitask, you the memory to keep them alive? Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but if we never had unused Ram then we would never be able to multitask, right?
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To a certain extent, I for one think there's no reason to try and utilize all of it for nothing. And it's pointless to complain about having extra
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This is quote from something I read in pc mag
" This has to do with extremes. Remember that every so many cycles (don't remember on current ram), your memory has to completely refresh its contents. If you have an extra 16GB that you never use, then you waste time refreshing all of that ram. Also on this note, higher densities, and larger quantities are harder on your controller. For maximum speed and stability, use ram appropriate for your usage pattern"
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This is quote from something I read in pc mag
" This has to do with extremes. Remember that every so many cycles (don't remember on current ram), your memory has to completely refresh its contents. If you have an extra 16GB that you never use, then you waste time refreshing all of that ram. Also on this note, higher densities, and larger quantities are harder on your controller. For maximum speed and stability, use ram appropriate for your usage pattern"
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While that is true, ram come in discrete chunks and 2 gb is noticeably better than 1. At a certain threshold the memory manager kills off old apps to free up ram. More ram means more recently used apps remain loaded and available sooner plus i have no issues with many pages open in a browser. I typically run with around 600 mb free. Only my dell streak i would often be under 100 and unless i manually closed apps it really bogged down.
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1gb of ram is not for TW and the rest for apps....its 2gb total...in reality like 15mb total