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Dell Streak not available in the US...

...buy why?
I've been following the Streak for as long as its been rumored, and I haven't seen this brought up.
Why do you guys think that Dell decided to go to the UK first, and so much earlier, than in the US? Seems weird for a US-based tech company to release what looks to be a very high-profile device outside of the US, so much earlier, and not even in a comparably-sized market (if they released in "Europe" first that might make SOME sense...but in the UK only?)
The ONLY thing I could come up with is that they are using the UK as a test market, either for the hardware itself, or for their incarnation of Android. Perhaps an update to 2.1 on the US launch? Though that is rumored to be coming in January 2011, not on launch date.
Any other theories/facts out there?

I have a Streak and it is very good! I don't know why they released in the UK first, but I am pleased it did.
When it gets to the US it'll only increase the follwoing and developments will rocket. So I for one am looking forward to it too.
I am sure our cousins from across the pond are gonna love it

grizlore said:
I am sure our cousins from across the pond are gonna love it
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Only if they come out with a T-mobile 3g version
2 GB per month isnt enough and Att sucks!

2Gb per month? On O2 (and Vodafone - dunno about the rest) we get 500mb a month for the £5 a month data plan. Then another £5 per 500mb thereafter.

ap3604 said:
Only if they come out with a T-mobile 3g version
2 GB per month isnt enough and Att sucks!
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I'm looking to go from my G1 to the Streak but only on T-Mobile. If I'm switching carriers it sure WON'T be to AT&T!

hexydes said:
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I personally think that Dell is just way behind with their mobile phone department, being completely new to the game. 02 was probably the first real and successful partner that decided to pair up with Dell. Considering they are so hush-hush about the US release it makes me think the only reason for such a delayed launch is a delay in partnership. Or it could be because whoever their US partnership is has to wait until a previous contract is up. Or it could possibly be that nobody in the US wanted to partner with Dell so they decided to release it in the UK, to see potential interest/outcome around the world. Rumor has been going around that the US maybe released with 2.2, which wouldn't matter. Software is always upgradeable, hardware (which I think will be the exact same as the UK models and beta models) is not.
As for the Beta Streak's (from Texas), what an absolute joke. Dell has done a terrible terrible job at keeping their US customer's happy or in the 'know' thus far. And then once they decide to give it some publicity, it is to such a wide ranged age group that is mostly physically active. Now I am not saying most competent high-end phone owners are not active, I am just saying that most do not run races. (I would for a free Streak!)
Considering they have a page on their store for the coming-soon 'Aero', why not do the same for the Streak?
And if it is due to none of the above, then maybe the US is in for a big surprise with their model. But I highly doubt that. Everyone else currently with a Streak would be extremely upset (I know I would).
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dell streak i have had for 2week now its the most awesome device i have ever had the chance to get my mutty paws on and i have had alot of devices with froyo 2.2 this will be unstopable and did you know there is a micro sd card x 2 in this device yes the other one is hdden inside to instal apps on 2gb and can be chnged to a 32gb if pleased plusa another 32gb external how about that then.

I think you should change your plan my friend, I get 3gb per month and unlimited wifi at the cloud with o2 for £15 per month although this is the data only plan.
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2Gb per month? On O2 (and Vodafone - dunno about the rest) we get 500mb a month for the £5 a month data plan. Then another £5 per 500mb thereafter.
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Muo said:
I personally think that Dell is just way behind with their mobile phone department, being completely new to the game. 02 was probably the first real and successful partner that decided to pair up with Dell. Considering they are so hush-hush about the US release it makes me think the only reason for such a delayed launch is a delay in partnership. Or it could be because whoever their US partnership is has to wait until a previous contract is up. Or it could possibly be that nobody in the US wanted to partner with Dell so they decided to release it in the UK, to see potential interest/outcome around the world. Rumor has been going around that the US maybe released with 2.2, which wouldn't matter. Software is always upgradeable, hardware (which I think will be the exact same as the UK models and beta models) is not.
As for the Beta Streak's (from Texas), what an absolute joke. Dell has done a terrible terrible job at keeping their US customer's happy or in the 'know' thus far. And then once they decide to give it some publicity, it is to such a wide ranged age group that is mostly physically active. Now I am not saying most competent high-end phone owners are not active, I am just saying that most do not run races. (I would for a free Streak!)
Considering they have a page on their store for the coming-soon 'Aero', why not do the same for the Streak?
And if it is due to none of the above, then maybe the US is in for a big surprise with their model. But I highly doubt that. Everyone else currently with a Streak would be extremely upset (I know I would).
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That statement is damning. Six months ago (late 2009/early 2010), the hardware in the "Dell Mini 5" (Streak) was cutting-edge, top-of-the-line. If they'd released then, they'd have had the fastest smartphone in the world. Now, we have the EVO, Nexus One, Incredible, DroidX, Captivate (in a week), iPhone 4, etc. The Dell Streak will be nothing more than your average high-end smartphone in a controversial form-factor, with an antiquated operating system.
I dunno, we'll see what I do. I was all-in for the Streak, because I really want the form-factor (larger screen, HDMI-out on the side for docking) and for Dell selling it unlocked (I don't want to buy through a carrier, or even have a contract, other than a month-to-month with T-Mobile or something), but the Streak is already looking pretty long in the tooth, and it hasn't even been released yet.
I think Dell really messed up on this one.
I think the worst of all is that you have this VERY passionate base of hardcore tech enthusiasts who really want this phone in the US, then Dell turns around, releases this phone in the UK, and is absolute silent about the plan for the US.
If they had any brains (which I really question at this point), they'd go to GDGT.com or something like that, find every person who has the Streak listed as a device they want, and ship them out. As of this moment, that is only 208 people. At $500 retail (though probably more like $300 at-cost), that's only about $100,000. I think Dell can afford that, and the good-will that it would build, from these extremely passionate users who will then go out and convince all of their friends, families, and others to buy this device, would more than recoup the cost.
Oh well. Over at StreakSmart, a LOT of people are looking at getting the Captivate now (or something else), and I have to say, while I was locked in for the Dell Streak, I'm going to be keeping my options open now. Every week that passes by, that 1GHz Snapdragon hardware set is getting older, more cool phones come out, and they have better versions of Android. It's going to be hard to seriously say "Dude...I'm gettin' a Dell!" too much longer...

lesday said:
I think you should change your plan my friend, I get 3gb per month and unlimited wifi at the cloud with o2 for £15 per month although this is the data only plan.
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Aye, I need the talk plan as much as I do the data. In any case, I took the Streak back - very little media codec support, shoddy audio quality, and lackluster graphics power eventually won over the 5in screen... I'm off to get a Galaxy S from either T-Mobile (coverage dependent) or Three, if Three get their fingers out of their ar$es and make the Galaxy S available.

SquidgyB said:
... I'm off to get a Galaxy S from either T-Mobile (coverage dependent) or Three, if Three get their fingers out of their ar$es and make the Galaxy S available.
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Crap, you better move over to the Captivate forum ASAP! For some reason, making any decision to go against the Streak here will get you flamed big time! I haven't seen that type of behavior on this board before so I was left scratching my head when I made the same decision.

As long as you take a balanced look at it the I don't think it should be flame worthy, but I know what you mean.
Apologies for the thread hijack as well - but it's not like there's a specific question being asked here.
Anyhow, I did really like the Streak for what it was, it's just that it didn't live up to the expectations of what I needed from it. FLAC support and decent audio quality is very important to me; the click and low level hiss in the background when the Streak played any audio was something I just couldn't live with.
I'll miss 5in of screen space, it must be said. Browsing on the Streak was a great experience, but seeing Quake 3 and the newer games coming out on the Galaxy, as well as integrated HW decoding of the major codecs (decoding 1080p on the fly? crikey!) are just another nail in the coffin.
Oh, and £54 for a dock so I can have HDMI out, and £25 for a USB charging cable? That's just rude.

Unfortunately those are things we haven't been able to compare here in the US. We have to rely on reviews until we can get them in hand. I'm sure that if I get both units in hand and the Dell strikes me as more usable, I'll buy it. I'm definitely going to be more critical of the Streak now that the Captivate will be out at the same time.

meatrocket said:
For some reason, making any decision to go against the Streak here will get you flamed big time! I haven't seen that type of behavior on this board before so I was left scratching my head when I made the same decision.
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For better or worse people are emotionally invested in their purchases so they take it personally when you say "F#ck Dell and their stupid Streak" like you did in the other thread, hence the flaming.

Streak or Galaxy tab?!

Hey guys,
I am currently using a nexus one and love it, however i long for a bigger screen. being on Bell in canada there really isn't any options in the 4.3" range and i would love the 5" of the streak. However with the tab launching tomorrow I'm torn between the two.
How is the screen quality? The resolution doesn't compare with the tab however it is smaller. How does it compare to a typical 3.7-4" phone such as my nexus?
I love the fact that i can still pocket the streak and use it as a phone. The tab is definetly no longer in the pocket range.
Has anyone bought the streak and wished they waited a bit longer to get a bigger screen? I imagine its quite an improvement over my nexus, but the tab might be the same improvement over the streak!
Say something to sway me to the streak please! its cheaper lol.

socksfelloff said:
Hey guys,
I am currently using a nexus one and love it, however i long for a bigger screen. being on Bell in canada there really isn't any options in the 4.3" range and i would love the 5" of the streak. However with the tab launching tomorrow I'm torn between the two.
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They're two totally different devices. One is a phone that you're meant to carry around, the other is a tablet that's meant to stay in your bag or at home. Which one to gets really depends on what you want to do with it.
How is the screen quality? The resolution doesn't compare with the tab however it is smaller. How does it compare to a typical 3.7-4" phone such as my nexus?
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It's good, not as vibrant as an OLED screen but quite similar to the Streak. There's no annoying OLED pentile matrix though, which is great.
Has anyone bought the streak and wished they waited a bit longer to get a bigger screen? I imagine its quite an improvement over my nexus, but the tab might be the same improvement over the streak!
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I have a streak, and bought a Tab anyway. They're for different purposes. Surfing and typing is definitely easier on a tab as it's larger but not too large, but I don't carry it everywhere I go - the streak does that job well for a mobile device.
Reading newspapers and magazines is definitely easier on a Tab as the screen is larger. At the moment the tab is a lot more responsive than the streak too... the official 2.2 that's coming out shortly should fix that.
This is the two next to each other:
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2546/tabstreak.jpg

I have both a Nexus One and now recently got a Streak. Like the previous poster said its really about your intended purpose. I absolutely love the Streak because the screen is huge but it can easily handle the occasional phone call I may get. I still love my nexus one but I honestly don't know if I could ever go back to such a small screen.
As for the Tab I don't own one but have played with one extensivley and will stick with my Streak for the indefinite future because its truly a mobile option. One of my requirements for a mobile device is that it fits in my pocket which cuts out the Tab. Honestly the Streak is at the max end of the size spectrum for a phone while maintaining the mobility I require.
Sent from my Dell Streak using Tapatalk

Dell Streak's battery life is weak with 3G & wifi usage. I passed by a Sprint show booth today, and from they told me, the Galaxy Tab battery life is wonderful...

Thanks for the reply. I guess i need to decide if im looking to replace my nexus one, or have a tablet to compliment it!

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They're two totally different devices.
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Yeah, especially so in the price, you can buy two streaks for one ridiculously overpriced tab

I have to agree about the cost, they've priced it only slightly lower than the equivalent iPad. I also understood that the U.S. version has no 3g support?

I would buy the Streak to test it, you will probably know very soon if the size is ok for you.
I went from the Desire to the Streak, and it still seems like a big enough screen for me, but I tend to use it for more pleasure then business. Although with swype it's not a big hassle to write emails anyways...
If you don't like the streak size, and want to go bigger, Ii would wait until Galaxy Tab 2 comes in the new year, with the AMOLED screen it will be a gorgeous screen. And if thats not important to you, the original Tab will probably plummet in price when the new one comes out..

Troute said:
I have to agree about the cost, they've priced it only slightly lower than the equivalent iPad. I also understood that the U.S. version has no 3g support?
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The US Tab has 3g but no voice. Some have had luck flashing the TMo tab with the Euro firmware to allow for voice, but then they are stuck with Edge because the Euro Tab uses different 3g bands than TMo. Might have more luck with the ATT version when that comes out because ATT uses one of the Euro bands in many locations.
It's probably just a matter of time until the perfect a TMo firmware too, but either way i have a hard time replacing my phone with the Tab if voice is not officially supported by the carrier...

galaxy tab probably but im a bit biased lol

Wow checkbox111 I think you should know what your talking about before posting. Here in Canada the streak off contract goes for 550 from rogers or 675 unlocked so 550 + 550 come to 1100 and the tab off contract from bell is 650 which is a fair bit below 1100.

I used to have a nexus one which i still love but i always longed for a larger screen to comfortably make use of the browser. So the streak was it, It doesn't make sense for me to have two devices when i can compromise and get the something in between. Plus its a phone, something the tab isn't....

cyanide1973 said:
Wow checkbox111 I think you should know what your talking about before posting. Here in Canada the streak off contract goes for 550 from rogers or 675 unlocked so 550 + 550 come to 1100 and the tab off contract from bell is 650 which is a fair bit below 1100. So .
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Might be a better idea if you learned some manners, the forum has rules about posting personal insults like that ^.

cyanide1973 said:
Wow checkbox111 I think you should know what your talking about before posting. Here in Canada the streak off contract goes for 550 from rogers or 675 unlocked so 550 + 550 come to 1100 and the tab off contract from bell is 650 which is a fair bit below 1100. So I'm sorry maybe your not really good at math but you should use a calculator or research before you open you mouth.
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I thought rip-off britain was bad, now we've got rip-off canada
You ought to travel across that great border that's separates 'people' like you from us US citizens and get one for a more 'sensible' price

Dell streak its a phone and tablet. Everything you want the streak does.
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Troute said:
Might be a better idea if you learned some manners, the forum has rules about posting personal insults like that ^.
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Really you don't think him calling everyone who is thinking about buying one dumb is more of an insult then me saying he must not be very good at math lol.He is basically saying the guy who started this post and me and millions of others are dumb.
Anyway I won't post about this again I just thought I'd explain why I came of a little snotty. Sorry
I think if you have a phone your happy with but would like a little more screen on occasion then the tab is the way to go. The streak is easier to carry around but i can't see taking it to a night club where you have to check your coat I already have enough stuff I carry in my pockets.
The other option is if there both on the same carrier then just switch the sim to the phone that you want to use. I know thats what i was thinking about doing but I think I might just buy the tab instead because my galaxy s already has a 4" screen so jumping up to a 5" screen doesn't seem like a big jump for the money.
What are the prices in the US anyway and yes Canada is always a rip off but you get used to it and actually think your getting a good deal.

My Streak is data only, no voice calls which suits me fine and I'm paranoid about breaking it so I'd never take it into a situation like a nightclub. I have a 'normal' unlocked phone for making phone calls.

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but you get used to it and actually think your getting a good deal.
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Only if you've got your head up your butt

tom_tui said:
Dell Streak's battery life is weak with 3G & wifi usage. I passed by a Sprint show booth today, and from they told me, the Galaxy Tab battery life is wonderful...
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Rubbish! I now get nearly 2 days with major use
I agree the streak is a mobile option the galaxy won't fit most pockets however I will get a tablet once I can afford one. Fit for purpose. I certainly think I will struggle with a smaller screen
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Please Gents no need for insults to get your points across next time i will have no choice but to start issuing infractions
I will lock this thread as it can not be kept clean

Atrix are you getting it why?

Before I start I want yo say that this is not solo for the AT&T version, but any version and I would like to hear it from you guys, opinions fears and hopes.
Leme be the first on this post that says I'm going to get this baby. why? I'm interested I'm the docks as its being a smartphone feature I've personally being expecting the most as I see a promising future. I know this may be the first but won't be the last and hopefully becomes a common feature with the time that will be considered rather useful with increasing smartphone technology.
What I fear is how thigh Motorola plans on closing the bootloader... only allowing little development for the phone.
My hopes are that Motorola in plans on cleaning their reputation will find (or has found) a way to get them both(security and openness) walking together down the same road
Just added a Poll for those who would better Like a vote ^^
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tegra 2 chip, 1GB ram, qHD display, finger print sensor, 1950 mHA battery, this is just a few down the list. I will buy this sucker, my first ever Android and Motorola experience

In my opinion, its the best Android to come out on AT&T which I am currently happy with. I bought just the phone and got a great price. Coming from an iPhone 4 and anxious to try out Android finally.

Aside from the obvious reasons to buy the Atrix, I am a Motorola two-way radio technician and I constantly get asked by my customers as to why I don't carry a "Droid". Well for one, I don't like the way CDMA sounds compared to GSM and two, I get a 15% discount with at&t that I can't get with any other carrier.
Since at&t works very well in the areas I need service, I've got no reason to switch.
I will be getting the Atrix.

Im living in Europe and for me its presently a decision between the LG Optimus 2X or the Motorola Atrix 4G.
And at the moment I am more or less solo considering the Atrix, but I will only get the Atrix provided:
1: It can get root (Done)
2: Its bootloader is not locked
2a: Or in the case that it is locked, that the lock is broken by the time I want to get it.
Thats really what it all comes down to for me at this point. I dont want to pay several 100 dollars for a damned phone that I am not "allowed" to mess with "for my own safety". What a load of crap really.
If those 2 things I listed get cleared up come April, then I am getting the Atrix . And if not then I am getting the LG instead. Its that simple really...

Why not buy it? The best phone in the market now, man!

tuantuti said:
tegra 2 chip, 1GB ram, qHD display, finger print sensor, 1950 mHA battery, this is just a few down the list. I will buy this sucker, my first ever Android and Motorola experience
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Same here, although I did own a razr back in the day. Great specs on this device.
This was a simple choice for me. Finally a good android phone on my carrier and I'm up for a equipment discount. I'm glad I waited the few extra months.

Does anyone know if the Nvidia app store will be on the Atrix? I know I saw a video on it but I have not seen it reviewed in any of the videos I've seen for the Atrix on youtube.

Yes I am getting it, and the efuse doesn't bother me at all. The specs of the phone are great and I really don't have a problem with stock.
It will make a nice upgrade from my Nexus One

I know people wish upon this few things that they can't have. But this will make a great phone until next year.
I have a nexus one, so this really is a resolution upgrade for me since my N1 is pentile as well.
The N1 has horrible battery life compared to the Atrix, and the touch sensor is garbage. So these two things alone will make make my usage of the phone better.
Non proprietary HDMI and USB ports are much nicer than the $50 cable Samsung wants to charge.
I despise AT&T for disabling HSUPA, and this really make it not a 4G phone, but T-Mobile sucks here and Sprint has nothing interesting. We're getting LTE this year so next year I may consider Verizon.
For now, this Atrix is a pretty good thing for me.
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for geadget lovers,
this is a stand out phone , because of the docks. maybe in the future more modal phones/comps will be on the market. So as the first (beside the foleo) the atrix has to be in the personal collection or history (similar to the Nokia 8110, Ericcson r520m, SE T68, Nokia N95, iPhone 2G and some others). I tell you, sometimes you will look back, and maybe the atrix will be one of your phones you will remember, the docks pricey or not will make the difference.
... my two cents, still remember my r520m (bluetooth gprs tether, year 2000)
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Just ordered mine.....my birthday is the 23rd so my Awsome GF is buying it for me.

Yes. I was wary foe a while, jumping between this and the Galaxy S 2.
Dual core, 1 gig DDR 2 RAM, great battery, high resolution sscreen.
Mainly for.the speed. I also just picked up 250 so I might look into a dock as well for when im on the computer.
Captivate 2.2.1 Paragon

Yes. I was wary for a while, jumping between this and the Galaxy S 2.
Dual core, 1 gig DDR 2 RAM, great battery, high resolution sscreen.
Mainly for.the speed. I also just picked up 250 so I might look into a dock as well for when im on the computer.
Captivate 2.2.1 Paragon

If they crack the bootloader come April then I am getting the Atrix, otherwise I will be getting the LG.

Raspster said:
Does anyone know if the Nvidia app store will be on the Atrix? I know I saw a video on it but I have not seen it reviewed in any of the videos I've seen for the Atrix on youtube.
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I just did a google search for Tegra Zone and their site says it is coming soon.
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Who else is Returning their Atrix before 30 days are up?

The Atrix is kind of my second Android device. I had a Captivate for a few weeks and wasn't a fan. After following the Atrix (back when it was known as the Olympus), and having own it since the 21st, I think it's time to return it.
I like the phone. I like Android. And while AT&T may not be the fastest in my area, they're pretty good. But having my upload speeds "capped" really irritates me. There's no reason why it shouldn't have HSUPA enabled. And I don't trust AT&T to update it. So, as a consumer, I'm going to vote with my wallet and return my Atrix before I get locked into a contract.
I've been looking really hard to find an N1 for AT&T. The search hasn't gone well. Most people I've contacted on craigslist have a hard time telling me if it's Tmo or AT&T 3G. I figured most people with N1 were geeks and would know that question right off the top of their head. I've found a couple of ebay, and even though I know that phone is awesome, I have a hard time paying $300+ for a year+ old phone.
Anyone that knows someone selling an N1 for AT&T 3G, I'd be willing to pay up to $250 based on condition. I just really, really, really don't want to go back to using my iPhone 3G.

I am still waiting to hear from the repair guys regarding my iPhone 3GS. That's the initial reason I made the jump. But the clock is ticking and my 30 days are almost up. So if I hear from the tomorrow and my phone is reparable, I may take the Atrix back and wait to see what the iPhone 5 is gonna boast and if its nothing but a 4GS type of an upgrade... I'll most likely repurchase the Atrix. I just don't want to be kicking myself IF (the operative word is IF) the iPhone summer update release is comparable or surpasses any other phone on the market.
With all of the mods the developers are creating, I'm hopeful that the speed thing won't be an issue for long. But you are right about AT&T being shady.

Going to return mine if HSUPA / Skype issue is not resolved as both are pretty much a deal breaker for me.

ZyanyaMJ said:
I am still waiting to hear from the repair guys regarding my iPhone 3GS. That's the initial reason I made the jump. But the clock is ticking and my 30 days are almost up. So if I hear from the tomorrow and my phone is reparable, I may take the Atrix back and wait to see what the iPhone 5 is gonna boast and if its nothing but a 4GS type of an upgrade... I'll most likely repurchase the Atrix. I just don't want to be kicking myself IF (the operative word is IF) the iPhone summer update release is comparable or surpasses any other phone on the market.
With all of the mods the developers are creating, I'm hopeful that the speed thing won't be an issue for long. But you are right about AT&T being shady.
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At least you have a 3GS. Do you know how horrible it is go from a fast, 1ghz phone, to a phone that's 400mhz with 128mb ram? Plus it's JB, so it's even slower.
I'm curious about iphone 5 as well, but it's going to take more than hardware to bring me back. I had an iPhone 4, and the antenna sucked. Also, I'm super bored with the OS. If the OS gets a major overhaul and the phone is better, I'll probably get it.
There is also the rumor about the HTC Revolver coming around Q3. Dual core, Android 3.0 (my guess is 2.4).
I'm actually really thinking about switching to VZW for the Tbolt. Except I hate VZW and have had a much more positive experience on AT&T. Except, at the current moment, they're only the 3rd fastest in Phoenix. Tmo and VZW LTE are faster.
Decisions... Decisions...

clubtech said:
Going to return mine if HSUPA / Skype issue is not resolved as both are pretty much a deal breaker for me.
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+1... Really need both when I travel...

i was thinking of returning mine because of the 2gb cap but i doubt i will
and since im able to get a steady connection from att and one that is fast and not bad like sprint and tmo it.
i believe that att and moto will push out the updates soon
its not like it samsung or sprint

I'll likely return mine. And too bad I sold my AT&T N1 today.

upyouratrix said:
The Atrix is kind of my second Android device. I had a Captivate for a few weeks and wasn't a fan. After following the Atrix (back when it was known as the Olympus), and having own it since the 21st, I think it's time to return it.
I like the phone. I like Android. And while AT&T may not be the fastest in my area, they're pretty good. But having my upload speeds "capped" really irritates me. There's no reason why it shouldn't have HSUPA enabled. And I don't trust AT&T to update it. So, as a consumer, I'm going to vote with my wallet and return my Atrix before I get locked into a contract.
I've been looking really hard to find an N1 for AT&T. The search hasn't gone well. Most people I've contacted on craigslist have a hard time telling me if it's Tmo or AT&T 3G. I figured most people with N1 were geeks and would know that question right off the top of their head. I've found a couple of ebay, and even though I know that phone is awesome, I have a hard time paying $300+ for a year+ old phone.
Anyone that knows someone selling an N1 for AT&T 3G, I'd be willing to pay up to $250 based on condition. I just really, really, really don't want to go back to using my iPhone 3G.
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Isn't the HSUPA+ of the Atrix is not compatible with the AT&T tower yet unless they turn the HSPA+ on?
I'm confused. Motorola is working on Skype compatibility now.

i'd sell you my ATT N1 for 275

Not a chance.
I'm building linux (ubuntu) boxes as often as I can and to have a phone of the same ilk is quite nice. One that is this fast is quite the bonus.
Phone carrying corps won't do anything unless we vote no with our dollars. I know I'm not doing it. Switching to another company still shows you are hooked.
iphones are boring. Edit: Great designs, beautiful methodologies. Still, boring bar the eye candy.

I have 10 more days to decide. I'm really on the fence still. On one hand the hardware is amazing and blazing fast. Friends and family wow at the tegra hd games, hdmi webdock with out using the official moto dock, and the snappiness of the OS is great (granted its rooted, frozen and better optimized than stock form.) Also, the hope that the bootloader will be open in the future and custom roms made for it are a big wait and keep it flag for me. But on the other hand moto has left a bad taste in my mouth with the locked bootloader, and so has at&t with the HSUPA fiasco. But then I have to also hope that a more powerful or as powerful "community friendly phone" will be out soon as well, because anything else up till now doesn't boast this kind of hardware and speed in MY experience..... Decisions.

I already returned mine. Motorola made such an awesome phone and then teamed up with AT&T to completely cripple it! I fully trust AT&T will do everything they can to SCREW Atrix buyers. GET OUT NOW WHILE YOU STILL CAN!
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There isn't a chance in hell apple does anything but incremental upgrades.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. Everyone will still buy it. The iPhone 4 was an extremely large jump, this will be a nice step forward.
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i'd sell you my ATT N1 for 275
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T-mobile Galaxy S2 hands-on impressions from a Vibrant user

I went to T-mobile and did a hands-on. The reviews from phone reviewers didn't quite answer my questions as a vibrant user. So I hope this helps. Plus I don't own it so I won't be justifying buyers remorse.
Bottom Line: Not worth the upgrade from a Vibrant. Especially off-contract. If you are locked into T-mobile and are upgrading anyway, it is worth it. All others should wait to see what the deal with the new Nexus phone is. You will NOT be upset with your purchase regardless though.
Screen: Huge and beautiful. Since it's not pentile, but it is larger than the Vibrant, it looks very similar. The GS2 might be SLIGHTLY less pixelated, but its not the crisp sharpness that I was hoping for.
Build Quality: What the Vibrant should've been. It's the best looking GS2 and it feels very solid. The gunmetal band is plastic as far as I can tell. It feels more solid than the Vibrant, but not nearly as much as an HTC phone. this should not be an issue whatsoever. And boy is it pretty.
Data: I live in a 42Mbps area and i speedtested about 4Mbps. The T-mobile rep said they got 8 yesterday. My vibrant got 2.6. YMMV obviously.
Speed: Quick, but with a live wallpaper and as low as 3 widgets, it started to drop in framerate. However it did NOT lag. things still load and run quickly, but not necessarily at an ideal framerate. especially the homescreen. I benched a 3200 quadrant after a memory clear. it wasn't loaded with smartbench unfortunately.
GPS: Didn't get a lock indoors of a mall (top story). 1400 meters was the closest. But I didn't get to test it outside. Grr.
Didn't get to test: Game performance, Codec Support, Sound Quality or Loudness, Camera, Camcorder, FFC.

I got my SGSII today and love it so far. The screen is beautiful, the gps worked out of the box and its fast as hell.
We'll see how I feel in a few days......
Now we just need some custom rom love
Edit: i get 13mbit/2mbit at work in minneapolis on 4G
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I got my SGSII tmo too. i'm loving it XD
everything works perfectly!

im gonna have to say im loving it too!

Guys if you have both vibrant and the new SG2, please check and reply if the batteries are interchangable.

i dont think the batteries are...this one has 4 gold pins and apparently NFC built into the battery (?)...plus it looks taller.
Since I loved the Vibrant, I'm sure I'll love this phone and it's extraordinarily enticing. But to those who signed a contract with the Vibrant, 2 years isn't up yet and they would have to pay full for the phone. I didn't sign one and I paid-in-full for my Vibrant and to get the GS2, I would have to spend $530. For that, I could buy a PS3 AND Xbox 360, or a fairly nice HDTV or desktop computer, for what I consider an incremental upgrade for a phone.
It's not that I think the phone isn't worth it, its just not worth it as an upgrade from the Vibrant.

i managed to drop my vibrant in the washing machine and am looking to get a new phone starting a new 2 year contract. they didn't have the sgs2 in the store i was at today unfortunately, but i did get to mess around with the htc amaze. it seemed to be pretty dope from what i could tell from messing with it for like 5 minutes, would you guys pick the sgs 2 over the amaze? i'm a little hesitant to buy another samsung product based on the way they handled the whole gps issue on the vibrant, so i'm kind stuck here. it's either one of those or wait until they announce more details on the nexus prime... but i dont even know if that phone will come to tmobile :/

trustinhate said:
i managed to drop my vibrant in the washing machine and am looking to get a new phone starting a new 2 year contract. they didn't have the sgs2 in the store i was at today unfortunately, but i did get to mess around with the htc amaze. it seemed to be pretty dope from what i could tell from messing with it for like 5 minutes, would you guys pick the sgs 2 over the amaze? i'm a little hesitant to buy another samsung product based on the way they handled the whole gps issue on the vibrant, so i'm kind stuck here. it's either one of those or wait until they announce more details on the nexus prime... but i dont even know if that phone will come to tmobile :/
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sit back for the prime.i think it's going to be called the nexus 3.But I'm not sure, a friend told me that.
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trustinhate said:
i managed to drop my vibrant in the washing machine and am looking to get a new phone starting a new 2 year contract. they didn't have the sgs2 in the store i was at today unfortunately, but i did get to mess around with the htc amaze. it seemed to be pretty dope from what i could tell from messing with it for like 5 minutes, would you guys pick the sgs 2 over the amaze? i'm a little hesitant to buy another samsung product based on the way they handled the whole gps issue on the vibrant, so i'm kind stuck here. it's either one of those or wait until they announce more details on the nexus prime... but i dont even know if that phone will come to tmobile :/
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luckily there are no known issues with the SGS2 like there were for the Vibrant. Even in early reviews, the Vibrant was criticized for lag and bad GPS. It isn't the case with the SGS2, so you are good to go on that front.
As for the Nexus. It may not directly be associated with T-Mobile. However, at this point according to rumors, there should be a GSM version and it should support T-Mobile's 3G band. So the likely scenario is that you would buy the phone unlocked and then get your T-mobile account.
The issue with that is a full price phone and a full price plan. I urge everyone who wants to use T-mobile to take advantage of their off-contract pricing. That math has been done on this dozens of times, but if you buy a phone at full price and join one of their off contract plans, in two years, you will have saved hundreds of dollars. You even have the option to spread the fincancing of a [T-mobile] phone over the months. I'm sure with the nexus that you can finance with the retailer you purchased it from as well.

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luckily there are no known issues with the SGS2 like there were for the Vibrant. Even in early reviews, the Vibrant was criticized for lag and bad GPS. It isn't the case with the SGS2, so you are good to go on that front.
As for the Nexus. It may not directly be associated with T-Mobile. However, at this point according to rumors, there should be a GSM version and it should support T-Mobile's 3G band. So the likely scenario is that you would buy the phone unlocked and then get your T-mobile account.
The issue with that is a full price phone and a full price plan. I urge everyone who wants to use T-mobile to take advantage of their off-contract pricing. That math has been done on this dozens of times, but if you buy a phone at full price and join one of their off contract plans, in two years, you will have saved hundreds of dollars. You even have the option to spread the fincancing of a [T-mobile] phone over the months. I'm sure with the nexus that you can finance with the retailer you purchased it from as well.
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I just asked and checked a couple weeks ago, the previously called "loyalty program", which lets you split the hardware payment over 20 installments, is no longer available to non-contract-binding customers. Basically if you are not on contract ATM and want to utilize that financing option, you have to sign a new 2-year contract. Sux, right?
here's the link:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1674

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I just asked and checked a couple weeks ago, the previously called "loyalty program", which lets you split the hardware payment over 20 installments, is no longer available to non-contract-binding customers. Basically if you are not on contract ATM and want to utilize that financing option, you have to sign a new 2-year contract. Sux, right?
here's the link:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1674
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i can confirm this as well...