What's the best way get Google Voice to work on an unactivated phone? - EVO 4G General

I have an HTC EVO (with a bad esn) that I'm using just on wifi - I'm using Google Voice and GrooveIP to make calls but without service I can't finish the Google voice setup - It needs an active # so that it can send a text.
My question is - Is there an easy way to get around this? I've looked around for answers and I've learned a little about SIP but it seems like there's got to be an easier way. The other thing I was thinking was to just flash it to cricket, activate service for an hour, activate GV and then cancel.
Anyone been through this already and have advice?

SIPAndroid might be useful. Back when I set it up it did not ask me for a confirmation SMS. I used the default provider that comes with the application.

The reason I am trying to finish activating GV on the phone is so I can text from the same GV # that I call from. Wouldn't going through a SIP service force me to use a different #?

Snadoosh said:
The reason I am trying to finish activating GV on the phone is so I can text from the same GV # that I call from. Wouldn't going through a SIP service force me to use a different #?
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No since you already have a phone # (your GV #), the SIP is just the connection between the phone line and the internet.

I take it your setting up through your computer? Stop what your doing. Its a pain in the butt. (I know from experience)
Just download the Google voice app and sign in using the email account used to set up your Google voice account. Takes like 2 min and no calling necessary
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PhxkinMassacre said:
I take it your setting up through your computer? Stop what your doing. Its a pain in the butt. (I know from experience)
Just download the Google voice app and sign in using the email account used to set up your Google voice account. Takes like 2 min and no calling necessary
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I think this way it still tries to call using the regular radio and not WiFi

fenixjn said:
I think this way it still tries to call using the regular radio and not WiFi
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Worth a try.. and i dont think it would.. GV and others like it that have calling, like skype, generally KNOW your trying to not use talk time so they know to do it via internet/3g/4g/wifi

ReapersDeath said:
Worth a try.. and i dont think it would.. GV and others like it that have calling, like skype, generally KNOW your trying to not use talk time so they know to do it via internet/3g/4g/wifi
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I just confirmed it on my phone. If you shutdown the radio but leave wifi on, GV will complain about being unable to place the call because of airplane mode. I'm using the network app to disable only the CDMA radio, all others (BT, WiMAX and Wifi) are enabled.
So yes, you MUST use a SIP to be able to use GV without the CDMA radio attempting to make a regular call.
I just remembered the name of the SIP app: SIPdroid

Thanks to fenixjn and the others in this thread. I got it going on my EVO 4g.

If u haven't figured out a way to set it up. use the internet. When it ask for a phone number use a landline number. After that u can use the google voice app like u wanted to. Hope that helps. After the activation call just unforward to that number and forward calls to gtalk or g chat. I forget exactly what the option is. I use groove IP to make and receive calls. I had sip Droid set up but it stopped working for me a few months ago. The money for groove IP is worth it. The calls are great quality. It has dropped calls on my a few times. But I can't complain for the ease of use and the low price.

Now I'm even more confused. I already set up the Google voice app and grooveIp and have been making and receiving calls just fine. My issue is having a number I can use to complete the Google voice app on my phone. The app wants to send me a confirmation text and since I have no service it cant. So now my question is how do I use SIPDroid to do that??
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By the way if I wasn't clear - I'm only trying to get google voice fully on the phone so i can text over wifi too. If there's an easier way I'm all ears.

I used my home phone number to set up google voice(it is a vonage number now that I ported to them from my old land line company). I first set up the google voice on my computers and it went smoothly. I then took my EVO 4g (which does not have service) and connectected by wifi to the market and downloaded voice, it kept prompting me for a cell number and I didnt enter one but it did load google voice onto my phone. I then downloaded Sipdroid and used my Google Voice number and it handled everything. I can send and receieve text and can send and recieve calls. A friend did try to send me two picture files via the text messaging that would not come thru. I don't know if there are limitations on what you can send but the normal text messages come thru fine. The phone service works ok but the quality leaves something to be desired. I havent started trying to tweek that yet.

Thanks, I'll try it right now...
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It can be done. I did it to mine. i cant remeber how cause its been a long time. Bit i thought all i did was add another number to gvoice on the computer. Then when it asked for comfermation it made a phone call to the number i had set up to forward it to. U may have to set up another gmail account just so u can get another gvoice number. Then use a number u can receive calls to ass the primary number. I'm gonna see if I can find the link I found the info for and post it for u. Don't be discouraged. It took me a while to figure out how to do it.

Thanks for all your help so far, I haven't got it working yet but I'm closer than I was
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Alright I finally got it. It was actually pretty simple, I downloaded the text plus app to get a free number and used that to complete Google voice and voila.
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Hi- could you explain in a bit more detail how you got GV to use your Text+ to complete the GV registration? I am trying to do the same exact thing you did, but cannot get GV to "see" my Text+ number. Thanks for any help you can offer...
[added note] just realized my sig line is waaay out of date...sorry!

It's been awhile and I promptly forgot everything but here's what I remember - Text plus lets you send and receive texts for free and lets you receive voice calls for free. As far as I recall GV needs to send you a text? or possibly a voice message. I think I just entered my Text + number as the cell # in GV and it all worked out

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Google Voice is not using my local number to dial out.

I have my gv # on my friends and family list. I guess this means I'm using minutes when I use gv to dial out.
Does anyone know how this works?
You will want to download the "Google Voice" app from the Droid Marketplace. Also if you search these forums there are how-to's on how to set it up to replace your Verizon voicemail as well as using it to call out/have calls come in. If you need more help after that let me know (also I would happy to take a GV invite off your hands if you have one to spare =p, *note* I will continue to help you regardless ).
I've already downloaded that app and I love how it works except for not using my local gv number when I dial out. It seems to use a random, simi-local number each time.
You've got an invite either way. PM me your email address and I'll figure out how to send the invitation.
Thanks for your help.
DeeBG said:
You will want to download the "Google Voice" app from the Droid Marketplace. Also if you search these forums there are how-to's on how to set it up to replace your Verizon voicemail as well as using it to call out/have calls come in. If you need more help after that let me know (also I would happy to take a GV invite off your hands if you have one to spare =p, *note* I will continue to help you regardless ).
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Just wondering, I'm not sure if this is related to your issue, but did you have caller ID blocked in any way before/during setting up GV?
Edit: Also for making outgoing calls, are you calling your GV number and then dialing out from there? Using that method or calling directly from your computer SHOULD make your GV number appear when you call someone (the GV app is suppose to do this for you, btw if you need help testing this I can PM you my phone number... free weekend mins and all =p).
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Another thing you can try is going to https://www.google.com/voice/#callsettings and setting the "Caller ID (out)" to your GV number. This might force GV to display the correct number. What it sounds like they are doing now is drawing from a pool of random numbers in the area (for whatever reason, I don't know why) that they control and routing your call through them.
From what I have read, there is no way to dial straight out through gv. You have to dial your own gv number and use the #2 option.
I think I had a Window's Mobile app on my Touch Pro that did that for me.
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Another thing you can try is going to https://www.google.com/voice/#callsettings and setting the "Caller ID (out)" to your GV number.
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No, right under that option it says this:
"Note: this setting currently only applies to text messages; calls will be included soon."
gentleart said:
From what I have read, there is no way to dial straight out through gv. You have to dial your own gv number and use the #2 option.
I think I had a Window's Mobile app on my Touch Pro that did that for me.
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That's not how it works with the native Android app. It's much quicker/easier and it dials some other "special" number, not your own GV number.
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That's not how it works with the native Android app. It's much quicker/easier and it dials some other "special" number, not your own GV number.
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That defeats what I want it for - free calls.
My GVoice app seems to dial the same number every time. When you start a call using your GVoice number, just look at the pop up that says "Calling via Google Voice ###-###-####' and add that to your Verizon Friends & Family numbers. Your bill will show that you call that number over and over, so all outgoing calls are free. Incoming calls will not be free unfortunatelly :-/
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That defeats what I want it for - free calls.
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Hey gentleart sorry for the late reply, I've been afk for a couple days thanks to my gf working the front desk at a Pediatrician's office x.x (curse those snot-bubbling runts, we went through 30 packs of ramen noodles and tea in the last few days =p).
I didn't notice that "Caller ID (out)" only applied to text, I wrote that before I had access to GV and that was a recommendation I read on their board. Even if that were true for making phone calls though, it might not solve your problem. I'll make a thread on the Google Voice help site about this specific problem though (I'll PM you the link once the post is up) and if an answer arises out of it, I'll post it back in this forum for public knowledge (BECAUSE KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! ugh sorry... x.x).
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arnoldo83 said:
Incoming calls will not be free unfortunatelly :-/
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J/W, under Google Voice's "Calls" settings, have you tried changing "Caller ID (in)" to "Display my Google Voice number"? For some reason I have a feeling that you would still get billed for the incoming call (I can't wait until cell phones work like landlines) plus you wouldn't know who was calling (possibly forcing you to talk with relatives or even worse... ex-significant others x.x).
If you are a heavy enough phone user to need this you would probably want to switch to the unlimited plan, but I'm just curious how it would work with Verizon. For now though, I'm going to try and figure out why some people are getting multiple outgoing GV numbers when using the Android app (I think if you are in a heavily populated area - by GV users at least - that it might just cycle you out to another number... but there should be a way to force it to use your number without having to dial manually).
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My GVoice app seems to dial the same number every time. When you start a call using your GVoice number, just look at the pop up that says "Calling via Google Voice ###-###-####' and add that to your Verizon Friends & Family numbers. Your bill will show that you call that number over and over, so all outgoing calls are free. Incoming calls will not be free unfortunatelly :-/
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This is what I did, and I can confirm that all outgoing calls are free. I also added my GV number to my "10" so that when family calls it's included. Unfortunately you can't have your cake and eat it too, your incoming calls will be charged minutes just like they've always been. I just have it go to my work phone while I'm at work, and answer it for free using my land line.
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I have my gv # on my friends and family list. I guess this means I'm using minutes when I use gv to dial out.
Does anyone know how this works?
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Install Google Voice Callback. This routes your calls via the web for dialing purposes and then google voice calls you back. Now outgoing calls are free if you have friends and family, and incoming calls are free if someone calls your google voice number.
You still have to have a pretty high priced contract with Verizon to get friends and family though.
For fear of sounding like an idiot I just have to ask.. I got a Google invite finally and now I'm not sure what I want to do. I really need to keep my current cell number because I have a billion business cards with this number, but I want the awesome voicemail service. I'm guessing I should choose the Voice Mail option only and I will not lose my current number? Does this sound about right?
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That defeats what I want it for - free calls.
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The number you see pop up when you dial should actually be the same each time. You should put that number in your friends and family and then using google voice out should not use minutes.
This may help, put this text in a Google search and take the top link
site:lifehacker.com google voice free

Use Google Voice and Gmail?

Pretty awesome new feature in my opinion added today!
http://www.google.com/chat/voice/
http://googlevoiceblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/make-and-receive-calls-in-gmail.html
Just used it to make a call. Pretty slick. Bring on the Android app!
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Pretty cool, so is this meant to be used on your PC? Or can you place calls for free using gmail on your phone?
I just saw this in my email and had to try it out!
It's pretty neat!
can't wait until we get in on our phones!!!
I've had the google voice phone number on my G1 for about a year and the match ing google voice app. And now have it on my Vibrant. It is really nice.
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Bronk93 said:
Pretty cool, so is this meant to be used on your PC? Or can you place calls for free using gmail on your phone?
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This is meant to be used on the PC. If you already have google voice, then you just install the new video chat add-on (linked to in first post) and you're all set.
Anyone you call will see your google voice number pop up. You can put in a phone number or the name of one of your google contacts.
This is a good way to communicate with people without having to leave your phone on speaker or break your stride if you're working on the computer.
pretty sweet...doubt Google's going to bring it to phones though and upset the apple cart with carriers
just wanted to know if incoming calls through your google number is free as well?
i know that outbound calls are free through data, but what about incoming calls in which your google voice number is forwarded to your mobile phone when someone calls your google voice number?
is that free or there is charge for that?
thanks a lot , i wish someone could give some clarification on this
Ms_Vibrant said:
just wanted to know if incoming calls through your google number is free as well?
i know that outbound calls are free through data, but what about incoming calls in which your google voice number is forwarded to your mobile phone when someone calls your google voice number?
is that free or there is charge for that?
thanks a lot , i wish someone could give some clarification on this
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Call your GV # from your house phone and find out. I remember trying it out like 2 days ago, I think it uses your carrier's plan minutes.
Killer Bee said:
Call your GV # from your house phone and find out. I remember trying it out like 2 days ago, I think it uses your carrier's plan minutes.
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thanks, will do that, then find out later on if my airtime minutes are being deducted. Is it the same with incoming text messages? maybe not , right? has to be free
yes it does uses the airtime minutes, otherwise, it wouldnt have reflected in my recent activity status on my tmobile account.

Google Voice

How many people actually use this app and is it really a good thing to use? Just wondering about it because I notice it's in most roms and launcher downloads. I've personally never tried it. What are the pros and cons?
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ive been using google voice for quite a while, both on my PC and on my phones.. works seemlessly with the SF..
its a matter of preference.. and convenience for me...i can call out using either my cell number or my google voice number.. voicemail is SO much better, and it not only translates to text, but at the bottom of the text there is a play button to hear it..
the only con i can report is that sometimes the text translation of the voicemail is a bit off..but you can still get a good idea of what the message is without actually having to listen to it..
im a huge google voice fan..
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ive been using google voice for quite a while, both on my PC and on my phones.. works seemlessly with the SF..
its a matter of preference.. and convenience for me...i can call out using either my cell number or my google voice number.. voicemail is SO much better, and it not only translates to text, but at the bottom of the text there is a play button to hear it..
the only con i can report is that sometimes the text translation of the voicemail is a bit off..but you can still get a good idea of what the message is without actually having to listen to it..
im a huge google voice fan..
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Does it cost extra to use it?
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It's free to use, unlike Verizon's Visual Voicemail which costs X amount of dollars per month. I was skeptical of Google Voice at first but I've really liked it for the month or so I've used it.
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It's free to use, unlike Verizon's Visual Voicemail which costs X amount of dollars per month. I was skeptical of Google Voice at first but I've really liked it for the month or so I've used it.
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Thanks, I'll give it a try.
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I'm honestly not exaggerating when I say this: there are no cons to using Google Voice (I can't see how less-than-perfect voicemail transcription is a con since you don't get any voicemail transcription normally). Like Gmail, this is a service that's been universally lauded by the press and consumers alike for good reason.
BUT: it's not just an app on the phone that you run instead of Verizon's VVM app. It's a true telephony service, and if that sounds kind of complicated, well, in some ways it is, though Google makes it extremely easy to use (whether you just want to use it as a voicemail service, or to effectively replace your regular phone number(s) entirely).
Google has a great site that explains it all better than any of us can, so I'd suggest starting there:
http://www.google.com/googlevoice/about.html
Or here if for whatever reason you can't watch the videos:
http://www.google.com/support/voice/bin/static.py?page=guide.cs&guide=22635
I love my Google Voice. Best vm I've ever used
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The other part of the setup i have that i love is the seemless integration of computer and phone with bluetooth.
I spent about $80 on a blueant earpiece that allows multiple connections, and a $16 dongle from best buy for the computer.
When the phone rings, i can answer via the computer or the phone. I have had exactly 1 dropped call since i started using GV in July.
I was afraid of Google for the longest time because of privacy. Then i realized they know everything about me anyway from using search. Once i started trying more of their products i was hooked. Now i have everything Google on computer and obviously phone too.
My life is easier with the integration and they just plain have cool stuff Lol.
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I have used google voice since for 6 months. I started on my BB and now use it on my Fascinate. I have friends with regular phones that use it as well, all of which love it. I haven't heard of anyone complaining or going back.
Just so folks know, you can choose to only use the Voicemail portion of Google Voice. You do not have to use it to make or receive calls...
the problem I had with google voice is it wanted to take over my entire phone. their forums you're pretty much worthless. Is there a link with good setup instructions?
There is only one downside I see to Google Voice and that's the fact that it can't send or receive MMS. Is it a big deal? Not unless you exclusively use your Google voice number to call and text people.
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gv is a great product
i have my voicemails sent to my gmail account as txt
when at work my phone is on silent but I get all my personal messages
Google Voice, the entire service, is unfortnent as you must use a different number than your cell number (which if youve had for 5 years is... bad).
You CAN however use GV for voicemail with your current number, which lets you have the free visual voice mail/speech to text translations without needing a new number.
Adding your Google Voice number as one of your Friends & Family numbers equals free calls.
I love using GV for free texting. I've had my number for a few years. Worked great on AT&T/Blackberry Bold.
But with Verizon/FV I've noticed when receiving call or placing call with my GV#, there seems to be a 1/2 second delay when talking. Really started to annoy me, felt like a overseas call, so I stopped using my GV# as my everyday phone #.
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There is only one downside I see to Google Voice and that's the fact that it can't send or receive MMS. Is it a big deal? Not unless you exclusively use your Google voice number to call and text people.
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yeah, if they get mms working, I'm dumping my texting plan.
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Adding your Google Voice number as one of your Friends & Family numbers equals free calls.
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Only if you actually dial your gv number and then enter the number you want to call. If you use the app, it dials another number that changes periodically. And you only get free incoming if you disable caller id pass-through.
Just jumped on the GV bandwagon after reading this thread. I've made a few calls with my sweet new Beverly Hills number. I'm sure i'll think of creative ways to use it. VVM will likely be its primary function, though. It's my understanding that GV uses your data connection for calls, correct?
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Only if you actually dial your gv number and then enter the number you want to call. If you use the app, it dials another number that changes periodically. And you only get free incoming if you disable caller id pass-through.
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Correct. The way I do it is, I access GV using my phone's browser, then I dial a number through that. It will ring my cell phone using my GV number, and then connect me to the person I'm calling.
can i use google voice on wifi.. ive tried but it just says dialing??? and how do i geta google voice number.. i have the app.. but it asks for my goolge voice number so i just type in my vzw number and i cant call

Sprint+Google Voice Integration = Success!

So, I got the 'preview' Email yesterday informing me that I can get early access to this.. Think of it as being a beta tester. Anyway..
I went ahead and did it last night. I used my current Sprint Number and overwrote my existing GV number. It seems to only bind your Sprint number to Google Voice as some sort of "smartbind" or "software bind", but not like I thought it would. This is by no means permanent as you can easily "disable" it without hassle. MMS works fine (for those who choose to use their Sprint number as GV). No, they doesn't show up in GV Inbox, but you can send and receive MMS the same as before. I'm sure Google and Sprint will figure out a way to integrate MMS as well, then that horrible Sprint PictureMail website can finally RIP.
However, If any of your friends are bound to GV, be prepared to receive messages from their GV even if you send SMS messages to their non-GV number. So, if you don't already know someone has GV, you will get messages from a GV number and will probably wonder who it is.
Example:
I send a message to my friend.
She replies, but the reply comes from her GV.
(at this point I got confused because I didn't know she had GV)
I send another reply to her mobile #.
Replies still come from GV.
I decide to just send replies to GV.
Other things to note:
-If you choose to overwrite your current GV with your Sprint GV, your current GV number will expire in 3 months.
-You can have it ring to your Google Chat if you're on a PC. Awesome! This opens up a number of possibilities maybe.
-For some reason, I can't figure out how to get the Google Voice App for Android to notify me of Voicemails only. I set it up to send me a text message when I receive a Voicemail as a workaround.
For those who want to try and keep their current GV rather than replacing it, try this.
This form allows you to move numbers between accounts: https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/g...ey=cjlWRDFTWERkZEIxUzVjSmNsN0ExU1E6MA&ndplr=1
Just want to add u don't even need the app. Google voice will route sms to your phone as normal. Having this integration allows you really to use your Sprint number anywhere u can.
Only benefits.using.the app is sms will go out on WiFi and data
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BrianDigital said:
Just want to add u don't even need the app. Google voice will route sms to your phone as normal. Having this integration allows you really to use your Sprint number anywhere u can.
Only benefits.using.the app is sms will go out on WiFi and data
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This is a limitation when using apps such as Juice Defender. This is a primary reason why I am so excited to finally be able to use regular SMS again as it doesn't rely on data. I can also use the custom SMS apps such as GO SMS and Handcent.
I am eagerly awaiting this integration as I have been using GV as my primary voice # for over a year now and I did not get in the beta.
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Just want to add u don't even need the app. Google voice will route sms to your phone as normal. Having this integration allows you really to use your Sprint number anywhere u can.
Only benefits.using.the app is sms will go out on WiFi and data
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Yes, however, you will either need to enable sending voicemail notifications to text so that you can call your VM, or use the Google Voice app for your voicemails (it doesn't support sending vm notifications, only "new items" which include sms/vm) so using text nofications along with the app is the current workaround.
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Yes, however, you will either need to enable sending voicemail notifications to text so that you can call your VM, or use the Google Voice app for your voicemails (it doesn't support sending vm notifications, only "new items" which include sms/vm) so using text nofications along with the app is the current workaround.
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exactly no need for an app
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ModXMV said:
This is a limitation when using apps such as Juice Defender. This is a primary reason why I am so excited to finally be able to use regular SMS again as it doesn't rely on data. I can also use the custom SMS apps such as GO SMS and Handcent.
I am eagerly awaiting this integration as I have been using GV as my primary voice # for over a year now and I did not get in the beta.
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I would love to see them integrate GV into the native SMS app. It only makes sense on android....
when is the official release date?
Supposedly on Tuesday 4/26/2011
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is this new?
My biggest question is does it use your cell mins.
Example, my friend calls me from his cell. Is it still counted as mobile to mobile? or does it go to google and then my phone and is billed as regular landline mins?
Mobile to mobile. Your sprint number becomes your gv number.
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It still relies on your Sprint plan. So if you have expendable minutes then yes, it will be used.
z28marols1 said:
I would love to see them integrate GV into the native SMS app. It only makes sense on android....
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It intergrates by.setting.up gv to.send sms to.your sprint phone. Works just like before intergration
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I have been using my Sprint # as my GV number for several days now and so far it has worked as intended. I am still able to use my native text app for those that think you cant. To use the native text app you just make some setting changes in GV.
I tried it and don't like it so far. I tried the option to use google number as sprint number because I paid for it awhile back, I like the number, and I don't want to lose it. I think that google should allow you an option to keep your gv number, even if you make the sprint number the gv number, if you paid for the gv number in the first place. If you paid for it, they shouldn't throw it in the pile to expire in three months.
Fortunately if you pick the same option as I did, the use gv number as your sprint number, you can back out and make them separate again without losing the google number. Nothing happens to the sprint number, as far as I know.
Something that still seems unclear is if doing this integration makes people with mobile to mobile have to use their landline minutes, even if they are talking to someone on a mobile, because they are going through google.
I posted my questions and findings in the epic forum awhile ago. I'm not certain if choosing the google number makes all your calls route from sprint to google then out or what. I don't remember making any calls to see if the lag issue still existed or not. I don't know if there might be a call routing problem sometimes like there is when using separate numbers and making a call but choosing the use google voice to make the call from the gv app. No use in asking the sprint people about this because you will probably get different answers. Also trying to search google help for voice is like the needle in the haystack thing.
Ok, here's some tests I ran and my results. If you can try these yourself and see if you can get different results by trying different things, things I might have missed, please do and post your results.
The first test I changed my google voice account so that my google voice number was my sprint number. After restarting the gv app as instructed, I lost the ability to do some stuff. The choice to use, or not use, google voice to make the call is gone. I wasn't able to call anyone at that time to test if there was lag in the audio or not. I tried sending a text from the stock app to my sprint number and it went through and showed my google voice number as the originating number. The text went to the stock app, but I don't remember if it went to the gv app or not. I sent a text from the stock app to my gv number and the message bounced back to the stock app and gv app. I tried sending a picture from the stock app to my sprint number. It acted like it sent but I didn't receive anything. I tried sending a pic to my gv number and nothing received also. I don't know if it actually went out or not. I didn't have anyone to send a pic to to tell me if they got it or not. I was trying this late at night. I don't know what would have happened if someone called my sprint number if the phone would still ring or not.
I went back into google voice on the computer and changed the settings so that it wasn't integrated anymore. I logged out then back in with the gv app on the phone. The choice of using gv to make the call came back. I sent a text from the stock app to my sprint number and it bounced back like expected. I sent a text from stock to gv app and it bounced to the gv app as expected. I sent a pic from the stock app to the gv number and it went out but never came back as usual. I sent a pic from stock to sprint number and it bounced back.
What I am guessing is that, from my experiences, you can't receive attachments if you make your gv number your sprint number. Like I said, I don't know if the attachments are going out or just acting like they are. When numbers are separate, pics bounce back when sent from then to my sprint number.
Unless someone finds out something different, or google fixes stuff when they make it live, I will be staying with separate numbers and conditional call forwarding and being able to hide behind my google number when calling people I don't want having my real number or I might want to block them some day. There's been word that mms is either in the works or done with google voice, it just hasn't been officially made live or an updated gv app that allows attachments yet.
I will wait and see what happens. Like I said, maybe I missed a setting somewhere? I don't know. Everything looked okay in the settings on the google voice account on the computer.
I tried integration again with gv number being my main line. I tried calling my sprint number an it rang through so no problem there. I didn't have the ability to test mms but I did read on one of the gv help pages that if you send a sms with stock app, it will show your gv number. If you send a mms, it will show your sprint number. if someone wanted to reply to a sms you sent with a mms, then it would fall into the black hole. Apparently if people want to send you a mms, they must send it to your sprint number. This is certainly a pain for anyone else to remember. In my opinion, this integration shouldn't have happened until mms was introduced and integrated.
If you run separate numbers and conditional call forward to gv for voicemail, like I do, then there's no difference that I can see with the old way or new way. It just seems like a different way of getting the same end result.
From what I've read, If you make the GV number your cell number and someone sends you an mms, it goes to your stock reader. Since your gv number is now also your sprint number, it shouldn't matter...unless I've misunderstood.
Wasn't this supposed to officially roll out today? I still get the $20 fee, or is that always the case?
This whole google voice thing with sprint is making my head hurt, hopefully I can get some clarification here.
I jumped on board with google voice the first chance I could. I have a google voice number, and that's the number I give out to EVERYONE!
My wife is the same way, hell, she does not know her Sprint phone number.
1) Can we make the google voice number our "sprint" number, and still keep all the benifits of the google voice number (calls from GMAIL, ringing different phones, ect)?!?!?!
Thanks
I just got my invite that says try it before others...
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Google voice or not

Debating on google voice. My boss swears by it but I read more bad then good. I know sprint users get basiclly a more functional version, but is it worth it. What am I losing. I know if I go cm9 that ill pretty much have to go to google voice for functioning voicemail. Yes I know how to move the vvm, but results seem veried on the annoying 9016 txt. Who's using google voice and is it worth the effort?
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Don't do the integrating with your sprint number. Just set it up as your voicemail. That way its not a permanent thing that takes sprint support to undo. Just choose skip integration when you try it out. It will have you dial a code to forward unanswered calls to gv and then you are set.
I like it. The transcription is mostly useless. It understands me fine but real people leaving messages it is just laughable, but I do live in Tennessee so that may he part of it lol.
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I had it ounce before but gave up real on it quick, but found that could be unintergrated fairly eaisly from the web site. Your not the first person to mention using it just for voice mail. How about for txt messaging though
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I don't use it for txt. Pretty much voicemail only for me. It doesn't do Mms to gv number so that's a non starter for me.
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I like GV for easy importing, editing, and backups of my contacts which is handy when flashing ROMs often. I also really like being able to block unwanted phone numbers. It has been handy sometimes to be able to send SMS from the web client, but I generally just use the stock messaging app on my phone. Since I'm using the integrated GV number, my SMS messages still show up in GV. The call screening is also nice when you want to know who is calling before actually accepting the call, though I disable it for known phone numbers. I like managing my contacts from my desktop where it is easy to setup groups and add photos. GV is great for making cheap international calls, too. I can't think of any lost functionality from the default Sprint services.
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I use gv as a secondary number.
Don't integrate with sprint, its pointless lol for all that you can just chill with your regular service lolol
Also android backs up contacts to your profile....
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So sounds like the way to go is.use it for.voice mail but not.txt.as.it doesn't support mms anyhow. Though you can text from your pc
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I have been using Google Voice since it came out, one of the original invitees, I did integrate with Sprint because I have been using my gv number for gosh probably about 5 years now. Started to use it on my archos 5it back in the day, and setup an soip so that it was basically a phone when I had wifi connection. It is nice to know that I will always have the same number, even if I don't feel like porting, or pick up a tablet with only wifi connectivity. Also, all my text messages are backed up for 5 years now, never loose one unless I delete it. Their visual voicemail is pretty meh, especially the transcription service...
I'm fully integrated, and I have no problems with it at all. I also love how I can run it on my Kindle Fire to check SMS and missed calls if my phone is upstairs.
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Or any computer, say you leave your phone at home accidentally, you can still get your voicemails, and send sms...
i went full GV integration because I spend most of my day in zero cell signal coverage.. so it was a way for me to be able to send texts over wifi.. and who can't help but be amused by the voicemail transcriptions.. lol
stilesja said:
Don't do the integrating with your sprint number. Just set it up as your voicemail. That way its not a permanent thing that takes sprint support to undo. Just choose skip integration when you try it out. It will have you dial a code to forward unanswered calls to gv and then you are set.
I like it. The transcription is mostly useless. It understands me fine but real people leaving messages it is just laughable, but I do live in Tennessee so that may he part of it lol.
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Yeah adding it to my kindle was one of the reason I wanted to jump back in. I just have to make sure its all reliable as I get a lot of sales calls and txts and email and crap
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One thing to be aware of, is that MMS is pretty half assed, in that I don't think you can send an MMS using your GV number unless you integrate. You cannot do an MMS directly from the app itself, you have to send it with messaging. If you get a MMS the image or video will be sent to your Gmail account.
I went for the full integration. To list what I call benefits:
-Better voice mail
-Able to respond to voice mails/texts from any computer including my HP Touchpad and prevents me from tapping away on my phone at work.
-Always have a place to keep track of all my conversations.
-Been enjoying the ability to have different voice mails messages for different contact groups
-Blocking of spam numbers and texts (Enjoy this immensely)
the day it can handle MMS properly, I'll be one happy camper.
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I'm fully integrated, and I have no problems with it at all. I also love how I can run it on my Kindle Fire to check SMS and missed calls if my phone is upstairs.
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Same, full integration and I love it. There is no reason not to do it really.... Always have texts available from a PC, being able to send texts over wifi when you're not in a signal area... It's awesome
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Ok last questions, and I'm sure I should ask a sprint rep or something, but I garantee this is faster.
With sprint my cell to cell is free. Do I still get that with google voice. And if I'm in california and I call the inlaws in canada (on their cell no less). How am I billed. Or am i. Web site says one cent a minute, but if google voice is basicly voip then how are we billed. And of corse if this is voip, does that mean in a data dead spot I have no phone unless I un intergrate.
I beg for forgivness at my question that are probably searchable, but if mess with my phone to long my wife yells at me so quick answers instead of searching mean I get to sleep in the bed instead of the floor
Edit: as i read more in to this i basically find some web pages that rave about it and some that says there is a ton of hidden fees. The hidden fees com in to play that if you call mobile to mobile, but at some point it is routed through a land line (rare case) your using minutes and may not realize it. doesn't bother me at all. long distance call. i cant call the in laws unless in canada unless i put cash in my Google account.. i would never call any other country. the way its worded on the website is awkward. it might be saying its free. it might be saying its 1 cent a minute
Edit2: Under know issues from sprint. quote "Charged incorrectly for calls to Canada (Calls to Canada should be free while using Google Voice)
If you are being charged for calls to Canada please contact Sprint Customer Care to request a refund for these charges."
so its enough an issue that it showed up in the know issues web page
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Google Voice is actually all I use. I had Sprint but I discontinued the service cause lack of funds (I'm a broke college student now, listening to REM & The Fray on my iPod headphones at coffee shops.) no, but really, there is literally Wifi everywhere I go, so that's my way of communication. Everything works. I think Voice is awesome. I recommend it. Just don't sync it with your Sprint number cause it'll do the "ring 3 times & send the caller to voicemail" thing. Last time, I checked, that could be fixed in the settings though.
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GV works just fine. If you integrate it, you won't even realize it's there. By default it will let you use the native messaging app, so you never even have to load Voice except to listen to voicemail (making it no better or worse than VVM). MMS works identically to regular Sprint messaging; I send and receive them all the time the usual way.
Once you get cozy with it, it's just a nice way to know your texts are automatically backed up, and it let's you set custom voicemail greets for each person/group in your contacts.
I haven't seen anything negative about it that wasn't fearmongering or a relic of a past issue raised by someone who didn't know what they were doing in the first place.
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The only negative is if you are like me and use a Google Voice number to set up a business line. Once you set up your Sprint number to use Google Voice as well they share the outgoing message on voicemail.
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I don't have a landline so I got a number and have it forward to mine and my wife's cell phones. If I want to make a call using it I just open up the voice app. I wild do the integration but google won't let me forward multiple numbers to one cell phone and using it as a "land line" number is first priority.

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