[help] planing to buy defy - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hey all XDA guys
i am planing to buy defy
my usage is not that much
simple phone calls of 2-3 hours a day and SMS
no 3G or 2G
but yeah 2-3 hours of wifi will be used
so what do you say , should i go for it
and if possible please say your experience with defy
thanks in advanced

if you are not interested about owning the ultimate phone, and you will use a custom rom, defy is a great phone with such many features. camera is the only thing i dont like very much

As an owner for the last few months I highly recommend it.
The pros and cons from my experience:
Pros-
Excellent value for money.
Compact yet has a 3.7" screen
Gorilla glass means no scratches.
Waterproof / dustproof (although the USB plastic band is getting less and less tight fit,
as you need to pull it every time you charge).
Cons-
Camera not so good, especially at non ideal lighting.
wifi receiver a bit weak.

Motorola Defy
I call a defy for about one year my own.
First: Its no High End Mobile...
But for everyday use, like sms, internet or of course Phone its great.
I never had the feeling its the wrong mobile for me.
For people who are using this Phone for social activities like facebook, twitter and stuff, the motorola interface, called motoblur, is quiet nice. I've been happy with motoblur... but then i installed a custom rom. its definetly smoother... But motoblur is not that bad
Everything works fine. Camera Quality is not the best, but for snapshots its enough. Also Video is not that goot, no 720p for some Defys and sound quality is also not that good.
another great thing about the defy are the developers. Custom Roms, Mods and Stuff like that are great. In the begining i said its no High End Phone, but thanks too the developers my Defy with CM7 and overclock to 1.2Ghz scores better Benchmarks than an Optimus 3d on Stock...
Battery lifetime is quiete nice. My Phone is almost the whole day in use. But battery lasts about one day... I'm using customroms for about a half year, so i forgot how it was with stock setttings.
Of yourse another great thing about the defy is that it is "undestroyable",... my last 3 mobiles broke after half an year... but the defy still works great and it dropped it a lot of times. its waterproof, i tested it. Gorillaglass, nice feature, but not as "awesome" as you may think. its not 100% scratchresistable, but its better than normal glass.
Hope this helped you.
Greetz Esok

Related

new phone [maybe Legend]

Hi, recently i sold my Samsung wave cause i cant deal with that OS bada. No apps at all. I want to buy an android phone. I need it to be beatiful, nice to feel in hand and with a good performance. I think legend is a good choice.
What do you advice?
cheers
If you're posting in the Legend forum then most likely you'll have people recommending the Legend . I previously had the HTC Magic (mytouch3g) for about a year and loved it. I upgraded to the Xperia X10 for 2 weeks then sold it for the Legend..and I couldn't be happier!
The system feels much snappier than the Xperia X10 and way better than the Magic. Loading and installing apps on the Legend does take an additional second or two longer than the X10 due to it's less powerful processor, however, the apps feel much smoother. That's probably because the X10 has a HUGE 4" screen.
What other phones are you considering?
idk, i love the look of the legend, processor power is ok for me. the only thing that holds me from getting a legend is dev support. I mean, there are few roms available and i havent noticed so far plans to port gingerbread to legend..
besides that, i love the legend...
There's a Cyanogen experimental Gingerbread port in Dev section, as well as a good selection of stable 2.2 ROMs. Go read
i've kinda read it but no video preview..lol
and you can wait an official Gingerbread rom )
There is no any matter to think that Official Gingerbread will NOT be released for our devices.
I agree here people will recommend the Legend
I think it is the best PDA i ever had only the battery could be a bit better
I need to charge every night
There are a few things I'm not happy with..
The camera kinda sucks (it seems worse than my old SE k800i when taking pictures of anything that's not completely stationary)
The aluminium edge above the speaker feels uncomfortable against my ear
I sometimes wish the screen had a higher resolution
On the upside, I still think it looks fairly cool, the size is just right for my pocket, and since I'm already running community ported gingerbread, I can't fault the developer support.
Battery is good for 3 days if you're just using it as a phone and have no friends. (i.e. screen off most the time, not surfing, not playing games, no calls, no sms, and I can get away with charging it every third night). If you actually use it as a smartphone, or you have friends, prepare to recharge more often.
All in all, I'm happy enough with my Legend that I'm not in the market for a new phone. I don't think a legend would be my first choice if my current one broke in a non-warranty-covered way (bucket of water?), but I'm not sure what else I'd go for, either.
As long as we have support from the CM team, this phone will always get Android updates. I have learnt more about Android with this phone that I would with any other, simply because you have to work more of it out yourself. I view this as a good thing. I also feel that this forum is more patient than in other sections, because of the small community.
The Legend is awesome.
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Battery is good for 3 days if you're just using it as a phone and have no friends. (i.e. screen off most the time, not surfing, not playing games, no calls, no sms, and I can get away with charging it every third night). If you actually use it as a smartphone, or you have friends, prepare to recharge more often.
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I charge mine every night. Most of the time it goes down to half way by the end of the day and that is with wifi active the whole day and ad-hoc use. It use it heaps on the 25 minute each way train journey to to and from work.

Pros/Cons of U8800

Hi there, this is my first post and I have an interest in this phone. Can owners of this phone please briefly state the pros and cons of this device as it would be a real help for me (and others) to decide whether I purchase this phone or not.
I will create a list in the next post weighing out all the good and the not so good features of this phone.
Thanks in advance!
List of Pros/cons
The list so far:
Pros:
- Great value
- Very fast 2nd Gen Snapdragon CPU which is easily overclockable
- Adreno 205 GPU (very good graphics)
- 512mb RAM
- 2gb Internal memory
- Large 3.8" WVGA screen
- 3g / HSDPA / Wi-Fi b/g/n / Bluetooth / GPS
- 5mp Camera with 720p HD recording
- Parts are cheap to replace (batteries, chargers etc.)
- Feature packed
- Decent battery (personal preference)
Cons:
- Bulky
- Not the best aesthetics (personal preference)
- Low quality components (crappy Bluetooth, Mic, Camera, Internal Memory and Poor touchscreen/multi-touch implementation)
- Android 2.2 (However, you can easily flash a stable 2.3.5 Rom)
- Lack of knowledge/customer support from Huawei[
- Branding (I'm being picky )
only thing i could call a con and that's really stretching it is it's relative bulkiness.
No dual core
Actually Android 2.2 is pretty old already, that would be a bad thing. But we already have a stable 2.3.5-ROM so it is no big deal at all. Not the best aesthetics? I think it looks pretty expensive if you ask me. The galaxy s of a friend of mine does not look any better than the u8800. As far as I know the camera is not that great, and the megapixel do not provide any information about the quality (my old camera with 3MP makes better photos than any phonecamera, simply because it has a real object lens and a bigger sensor).
In my opinion the real advantage of this device is that you get the speed of devices that cost twice as much. Of course those devices have a much bigger screen, do not forget that.
There is one situation in which the processor will be too slow: Playing some n64-games; for example Zelda - Ocarina of time is not really enjoyable. Also the screen is almost too small if you do use the touchscreen-controls (you can use a ps3 controller).
Lack of prestige? You gotta be kidding, right?
If you have the money for the u8800, go get it. If you have slightly more money you can go for a used galaxy s. I would have bought the galaxy s but I wanted a phone with 2 years warranty. If you have a lot more money you could be a galaxy s 2 for example, it will have a dualcore (no problems with emulating n64, that i can assure you) and a bigger screen.
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Actually Android 2.2 is pretty old already, that would be a bad thing. But we already have a stable 2.3.5-ROM so it is no big deal at all. Not the best aesthetics? I think it looks pretty expensive if you ask me. The galaxy s of a friend of mine does not look any better than the u8800. As far as I know the camera is not that great, and the megapixel do not provide any information about the quality (my old camera with 3MP makes better photos than any phonecamera, simply because it has a real object lens and a bigger sensor).
In my opinion the real advantage of this device is that you get the speed of devices that cost twice as much. Of course those devices have a much bigger screen, do not forget that.
There is one situation in which the processor will be too slow: Playing some n64-games; for example Zelda - Ocarina of time is not really enjoyable. Also the screen is almost too small if you do use the touchscreen-controls (you can use a ps3 controller).
Lack of prestige? You gotta be kidding, right?
If you have the money for the u8800, go get it. If you have slightly more money you can go for a used galaxy s. I would have bought the galaxy s but I wanted a phone with 2 years warranty. If you have a lot more money you could be a galaxy s 2 for example, it will have a dualcore (no problems with emulating n64, that i can assure you) and a bigger screen.
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Thanks for your input. Updated list accordingly.
XphX said:
Lack of prestige? You gotta be kidding, right?
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Just to clarify, from lack of prestige, I meant it as if somebody asks you what phone you have, and you say Huawei U8800, they'd probably think that you have a cheap chinese model. It's not really a big thing for many people but I thought it was worth mentioning.
Pro:
- Good specs for the price
- Good battery life on 2.3.5 (unofficial)
Con:
- Low quality components (crappy Bluetooth, Mic, Camera, Internal Memory - big but useless without hacking)
- Real problems with official Froyo Roms, which should have never go out on the market with so many bugs/issues (not going to sleep properly, unstable wifi etc etc)
- No official Gingerbread support, even Huawei actually owns the 2.3.5. license
- Lack of knowledge/customer support from Huawei (if you have an issue, they replace the handset and you get an identical handset with the same problem)
I would like to say, that this phone would have been one of the biggest fails on the market, if there was no support from excellent developers.
It's only because of people like Dzo, Stockwell and Genokolar, that I didn't throw this phone in the bin.
Huawei is fresh in the phone manufacturing industry and this handset reflects this aspect loud and clear. This is why no one really heard about it...
huawei is everything but fresh in the phone industry
darkado said:
huawei is everything but fresh in the phone industry
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I said phone manufacturing, not telecommunications (I know that they are major manufacturer of WCDMA backbone and access network elements), there is a small difference...
katu2006 said:
I said phone manufacturing, not telecommunications (I know that they are major manufacturer of WCDMA backbone and access network elements), there is a small difference...
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Thanks for your input. It's very disappointing that you get such a great value smartphone which is spoiled by basic features and low quality components. I'm really doubting if I should get this now.
everybody has a set of pros and cons on this phone, and i dont think its a good idea to make ur buying/non-buying decision purely basing on others comments..
for me, its only mattering "pro" is the high price-performance ratio..
(and one more now, after seeing such an active on-going development effort to make this phone better..)
and no "con" at all (as this is what i expect from a product of this price..)
thus if u think single-core cpu is a "con", no official support is a "con", little brand recognition (outside china) is a "con", u can alway pay a few bucks more to get dual-core, famous-branded models..
and honestly speaking, this phone is indeed NOT intended for everybody..
its just not as idiot-proof as iphone (as with most android phones..), not as good-looking (to some) as sensation, not as ego-boosting as sgs2, etc..
but its definitely easier to hack with, to manipulate with, and to brick with (not sure on this point though, as more flexibility does not necessarily imply easier brickability..)..
imho, its more suitable if u r the kind of person who would like to play with android instead of just using it..
as usual, the above represent my opinion only..
OP, just tell us what you are looking for and how much money you want to spend.
XphX said:
OP, just tell us what you are looking for and how much money you want to spend.
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Between £150 - £200 is my budget. The U8800 is more towards the lower end of my budget and as I can get it at that price brand new, it is quite appealing. However, you can get other phones like a second hand Galaxy S for a bit more while still being within reach of my budget.
What I'm looking for is killer hardware as well as a good community which makes the phone easily hackable and 'tweakable.' Regarding the U8800, it has exactly what I'm looking for at the price point but if it falls short of basic things like the touch screen, then what can you do. Being a previous ZTE Blade owner, I was extremely impressed as basic functions were not sacrificed.
There are a lot of people that switched from the Blade to the U8800 and are quite happy it seems. I think you do not have much choices here - luckily. You can either get the galaxy s or the U8800, as you already said yourself.
If the galaxy s is in a good condition and if you can live with a phone that has no warranty anymore, I'd say go for it. For me, none of my phones ever had any hardware-problem, so I could have easily bought all of them in used condition.
It is just that buying something off ebay is risky. I do buy little stuff there every now and then, but no expensive stuff - if the seller just lies about a "little" problem and you want to return it, you probably won't see your money again. If a friend of yours sells you his used galaxy s, take it. That would be the best choice in my opinion. Either get a galaxy s that you can inspect and try out before you buy it or go for the u8800.
katu2006 said:
Low quality components (crappy Bluetooth, Mic, Camera, Internal Memory - big but useless without hacking)
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Bluetooth was reported to be problematic, yes; some people reporting it to be fine (I just use the headset sometimes and it works perfectly well). Mic also works perfectly fine for me. Camera is not as good as with other handsets, yes. It takes 10 minutes to make the memory useable, but I admit, what Huawei did there makes not even sense.
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Real problems with official Froyo Roms
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Froyo does not matter to me as it already is old and I would not recommend anybody to buy this phone if he wants to install Froyo.
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No official Gingerbread support
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That with Gingerbread is a shame, right now I hope for support in the future. Worst case: You won't get the new features... but: it works fast and stable already, so you won't miss more than the new features (whatever they are and will be...).
katu2006 said:
Lack of knowledge/customer support from Huawei
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Instead we got the community. As long as everybody stays here at xda-devs or at modaco we will get support. When everybody leaves in one year or maybe in two, then you are pretty much f...on your own. On the other hand, in a year all the problems should be sorted out.
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this phone would have been one of the biggest fails on the market, if there was no support from excellent developers
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Exactly, and now it is a fast and stable phone with android 2.3.5 - at least for me it works perfectly well.
Noob here....
I have this phone and bought it about 3 weeks ago. It's my first smartphone and did a little research on the reviews.
From my perspective, being a total noob, so far I've been really happy with the X5. Sure, battery life is horrible and the camera could be better but I've managed to take some nice shots and some OK video. For me it's great to have this capability in my pocket and liberating to be able to catch up on the day's news and podcasts siting by the pond in the backyard in the morning.
Strangely perhaps I haven't been having problems with the reported wifi problems nor any problems with the Hi Suite software from Huawei.
I have had a couple of little glitches but nothing a quick re-boot hasn't fixed.
My first android has exceeded my expectations but I come from a point of nothingness.
Towards the end of it's 1 year warranty I plan doing all what seems to be the fun things to do like rooting and other fiddling around
Even after reading about the X5 shortfalls I'm still happy with what I have and don't feel inferior at this stage.
I bought the phone for $AUD260. Have spent around $25 on apps and around a further $25 on accessories...like extra mini USB cables for my various stations where I can charge the phone, a in-car charger just in case, a case and some screen protectors.
I've been having fun on my X5 and that's what it all comes down to for me.
seems this phone doesn't support UMTS 850/1900Mhz
so it may only use 2G data service in North American
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seems this phone doesn't support UMTS 850/1900Mhz
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Someone said that he got an answer about that from Huawei and they told him they just forgot to write this on the description page... someone could try it out to make it clear.
Clevo89 said:
Sure, battery life is horrible
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Hold on, I get 2-3 days of standby when I do only use the phone for about 1 hour calling per day and about 20-50 sms per day. If I play n64 or something it lasts a day, maybe another half day. Actually this is the best battery life I ever encountered with a handset. I use 2.3.5 which seems to have a good battery management and SetCPU has 245min and 806max, scaling conservative.
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Someone said that he got an answer about that from Huawei and they told him they just forgot to write this on the description page... someone could try it out to make it clear.
Hold on, I get 2-3 days of standby when I do only use the phone for about 1 hour calling per day and about 20-50 sms per day. If I play n64 or something it lasts a day, maybe another half day. Actually this is the best battery life I ever encountered with a handset. I use 2.3.5 which seems to have a good battery management and SetCPU has 245min and 806max, scaling conservative.
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You're exaggerating with 3 days... The most I ever got on this phone is 51h and that without using it at all, mostly on stand by the whole time...And I've tried ALL Roms available till today.
I'm 100% sure that NOBODY got 72 h of this phone.
You probably didn't had many phones and don't have a good term of comparison...This phone has average battery life and only on Gingerbread Roms. On any Froyo Roms, you'll be lucky to get 20 h out of it.
Pros:
If you can root it and install a good ROM, it can become really fast, faster than many android phones (except dual core).
Very nice price.
It seems expensive and has a really sturdy exterior. The screen crystal is also very hard and resistant to scratches.
It is fully featured (sensors, very nice screen, high resolution, etc).
I had not the slightest problem with any of its subparts (bluetooth, GPS, camera). (Maybe I am lucky, though).
If you root it and install a good ROM, video recording becomes very good.
If you dont play with it all the time, battery lasts for one day or two.
You catch friends with iPhones 1 and 3G looking at it with envy.
You catch friends with iPhones 4 looking at you with envy, as soon as they hear its price and find out about the prices of apps at android market. (They paid for many of the apps you will get free).
Cons:
As with all smartphones, if you play demanding 3D games, in 2-3 hours you will need to find a wall socket (so this is not really a con).
Something with the multitouch doesn't seem perfect. I don't know why.
It's not an iPhone.
It has not a dual core CPU.
It's not a tablet.
If you are amongst some friends with iPhones, you will still not have one.
Conclusion: I am very happy with the X5. My wife wants to steal it from me, and she plays with it all the time. She already has finished many games on it (Angry Birds, Angry Birds Rio, Diversion, Cut the Rope and others). I managed to read two books on it, while on vacations.
It was a good buy.

[Q] What should I know before I buy a G2?

I need a solid (tmobile) phone off contract. I am aware the g2 is almost a year old... on ebay good units are going for $230-ish, and I'm unwilling to shell out $400+ on a device that'll depreciate by 50% within a year. This leaves the G2 and the samsung vibrant, and the vibrant subforums tell me that development is all but dead for that device. If you have any other suggestions for phones in my price range (<300ish) then please do let me know.
I've been a long time user of the OG G1/dream, so I'm looking for something with an active dev community and some choices when it comes to fast and stable roms. How are the roms that you folks are running on your G2's?
Any common hardware issues with roms (like gps)?
Are some units unrootable? What should I look for when I'm buying a used device? What's S-off?
Please excuse all the questions. I appreciate your help.
Yes, I would reccomend the HTC Vision (G2). S-OFF means security off, or on (S-ON), as the case may be. Development is anything but dead for this device, IMHO. There exist rooting guides regardless of your current Android version and plenty of different ROMs. Although you will have to downgrade from the official 2.3 update, if need be. But again, there are excellent guides here on XDA. That's my 2 cents.
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Just as stated above the downgrade guide worked for me I traded a g2x for a g2 plus cash due to developement being almost non existant and as its a downgrade in performance its an upgrade in developement. This phone is great you might wanna look into buying a new spring for whatever usedg2 you buy I ordered mine today and you can pick up a used g2 for as little as 80$ with no battery or back cover on craigslist. But they run for around 100 to 200 in houston I wouldn't spend more than 200 for this phone just cause its a tad old my opinion hope I helped
I own a G2 and a vibrant, but I use my G2 because it is a bit more compact, has keyboard, has better call quality and slightly better battery life. I keep the vibrant as backup (we use it on wifi and call it the mini tablet)
The G2 is more complicated to root than vibrant (needs adb), but I've succesfully rooted mine from 2.2 and my wife's from 2.3.4. The samsung merely required downloading a couple things on my computer, then a one click root. We both currently run MIUI ROM because we like the abundance of themes, options and better than stock battery life.
My wife's phone did succumb to the black screen issue known with G2s, luckily it was still under HTC 1 year warranty. That was how I had to learn to root 2.3.4 once we got the phone back.
The biggest issue I've had with the samsung was missing calls. It was having issues maintaing signal in my house. My G1 had no issue, and my G2 is better than the vibrant. The vibrant is very thin, amazingly thin.
Hope that helps.
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i downgraded my Desire Z about 2 days ago and its all rooted now, im definatly no expert on the subject but the guides i used worked fine for me as long as you can follow instructions
oh and as a tip from a noobie
* copying items per usual CTRL + C will take you out of shell remember that copying in CMD can be done by pressing the ENTER key.
that was the reason i screwed up first time xD
desire Z is great only the battery life has bugged me so far.
xjjjay said:
I need a solid (tmobile) phone off contract. I am aware the g2 is almost a year old... on ebay good units are going for $230-ish, and I'm unwilling to shell out $400+ on a device that'll depreciate by 50% within a year. This leaves the G2 and the samsung vibrant, and the vibrant subforums tell me that development is all but dead for that device. If you have any other suggestions for phones in my price range (<300ish) then please do let me know.
I've been a long time user of the OG G1/dream, so I'm looking for something with an active dev community and some choices when it comes to fast and stable roms. How are the roms that you folks are running on your G2's?
Any common hardware issues with roms (like gps)?
Are some units unrootable? What should I look for when I'm buying a used device? What's S-off?
Please excuse all the questions. I appreciate your help.
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$230 is too much. I see them on craigslist frequently in the $150-180 range. it's still worth it, but why pay %50 more if you don't have to ?
the g1 is a great device. reliability has been great for ours. my son uses a g1 and it might get reboot once every 3 months, constant wifi, and used mostly for youtube and as a camera. the g2 is a better device. much much faster, in every way.
i don't know of a gps issue. both of ours pick up GPS in 3-4 seconds unless we're in a canyon. takes longer then.
all units are rootable. there is a section here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2 that should be exactly what you need to complete root.
i would suggest checking the camera lense with a bright light very carefully. mine has a hairline crack, and it effects some photos depending on orientaion. i bought it USED, as I do everything. exchanged a couple of them for different hardware problems, but most likely related to hard use (women).
i use cyanogenmod 'nightlies' on mine. they're very fast, stable, and feature packed.
also, the reasons we'll be sticking with G2's for the extended future:
excellent camera
dedicated camera button
dedicated volume rocker
sensible headphone jack placement
very good cellular signals
very good wifi signals
very good bluetooth (map transfers in the woods with no data available on cellular)
the hardware keyboard is EXCELLENT < this alone is a deciding factor, it's very very good, and we are hardware people. no touch screen keyboard can compare in our opinion.
very good battery life: EDGE and underclocking agressively means no charging needed on camping trips, and LOTS of pictures
also 720p HD video capable. it's very good quality.
excellent noise cancelling
excellent call quality
loud external speaker
good luck !
If you're buying a used one, test everything you can before you lay down the cash!
Bring along some earphones, plug them in and make sure you can hear audio (tests the audio jack)
If possible, Bring along a microUSB cable and plug the phone into a PC. Make sure the phone charges and is recognized by the PC. Put the phone into USB mode and make sure you see the contents of the phone's SD Card (tests the USB connector)
If an micro SD card isn't included, bring one alone and test it on the phone. Somethimes the connector gets trashed.
Test the physical keyboard, make sure each key registers.
If possible, test the SIM slot too -- plug in a good SIM card and make sure there's no error.
Slide the keyboard open and closed repeatedly. make sure the screen doesn't act strangely (flickering could be a sign of a bad connector cable)
What else?
I don't think "women" are responsible for hardware issues with your phone, ohgood.
And to the OP, there are known GPS issues. Not everyone has them, and there are fixes out there. So, although it is a known issue, it should not be a deal breaker. I just upgraded radios, installed the stock HTC GPS drivers (on an AOSP ROM), and GPS locks in 5 seconds and stays that way for hours while using navigation. Granted all these things were not necessary, but they have improved my cell & GPS signals.
It is truly a great phone, had mine since january and don't regret it one bit
PROS-fast,never lags,now has android 2.3,good screen size & quality,every app I ever dl works great with the G2,great camera and video,battery can be great if u add apps such as an app killer & 2g-4g switch(I can easily go a full day on heavy use switched on 2g then I just switch it to 4g when using internet browing) & an awsome keyboard.
Only CONS in my opinion are- kinda on the heavy side & thick (advantages of having a hardware keyboard) & I feel it lacks a front facing camera
Hope this helps
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Great phone, had mine for about a week. I like the keyboard and once you get used to it you can type pretty fast, overall the device is pretty snappy and works well. The z hinge is okay, there is a bit of shake when the device is closed and youre using the touch screen, and my device has a bit of dust under the screen. I paid 320 AUD for mine brand new, I haven't rooted it and I'm running stock gingerbread with HTC sense
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A perfect phone.... I donno why but I feel the keys a bit harder... and the missing front camera.
Hi,
I'm a fresh user of this device (bought it new a week ago on contract) and I absolutely love the keyboard. I was a G1 user that switched to iP4 but lasted only 7 months. Physical keys are a must I do agree that front cam would be nice but since it's not a feature I would use on a daily basis then I agreed to the fact. Battery isn't awesome but lasts a day. Great signal strenght, wifi locks and holds nicely, havent had a chance to test GPS.
So far on stock 2.3.4 but dunno for how long
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Beyond worth it phone. To my knowledge, its the fastest single core phone with the best battery life. U heard the guy testimonial on taking it camping. On an AOSP rom, 4g/3g, bluetooth, gps, wifi off, it uses next to no power. I mean its sick. Ive tested it and left it sitting alone for 2days and came back to it saying 99% battery.
Pros:
Its safely overclocked to 1.2GHz because Processor was designed to run at 1GHz
Keyboard (Includes 3 shortcut buttons. +2more if ya use the search button too)
Camera quality
Huge active developing community
Quality materials, I mean its solid built, no denying that.
Runs every app I throw at it with no issues.
Superb wireless quality (Signal (3g/4g/Calls), wifi, gps, bluetooth are just AWESOME)
Rocker is the right size, sensitivity (Mentioned because its perfect for at work and changing songs w/o the need to take it out my pocket ^_^ )
Headphone jack is solid (Had a Moto Cliq that was iffy)
Cons:
No front facing camera (Honestly those who have it, rarely use it cause U can just call the person)
Only 2 Color indicator
Hefty/Weight (To me a benefit cause it dont fall out or drop)
Lil outdated manufactor wise.
I honestly dont feel its outdated tho because any experienced android user will tell ya. Getting the first batch of a new technology has downfalls 1/2 - 1year later. Case in point, all the buyers of the first Dual-Core phones envy those who got the Dual-Core and 3d after less then a year later. My thing is, Ill wait until the 3d been fine tuned a bit and I bet it will be perfected.
2more things. It has a KEYBOARD. The wireless in it is beyond great. I never had a dropped call, problem with gps, wifi or bluetooth. In fact I hook my bluetooth up to my radio and can walk 15 feet away w/o a problem. I enjoyed it when I can go in my trunk, adjust my "thump in the trunk" and change the volume/song wirelessly.

Going to buy this phone!

Hey guy's
I'm planning on buying MOTO G 2014....
Pls post here the pro's and con's....
also, how's the battery life to an average user... Not what the company says...
I've only used XPERIA before this and have no idea... about moto!!!
c3cil
c3cil said:
Hey guy's
I'm planning on buying MOTO G 2014....
Pls post here the pro's and con's....
also, how's the battery life to an average user... Not what the company says...
I've only used XPERIA before this and have no idea... about moto!!!
c3cil
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Dude, there are already threads with exactly these questions asked and answered here...
Anyway, i came from s3 mini and didn't regret buying this device for one second. Battery is amazing in my opinion (getting nearly 24 hours from 100 to 0 with about 6 hours screen on). Performance is good too, at least for me. But keep in mind that its not compareable to latest state of the art like one plus or s5. But it comes for a realy fair price...
Hope it helps [emoji6]
After 1 month of use i say this phone is great.
More excited to get android Lollipop.
this phone is just awesome , really.
if you don't want to spend to much on a phone - this is the phone for you.
awesome phone the best part is speaker in front really helpful when watching movies or songs
sent from moto 2 gen
It's a good phone no doubt, as for battery life I'm getting around 8-10 hours (I'm not a gamer but a heavy whatsapp user).
KingGehl said:
Dude, there are already threads with exactly these questions asked and answered here...
Anyway, i came from s3 mini and didn't regret buying this device for one second. Battery is amazing in my opinion (getting nearly 24 hours from 100 to 0 with about 6 hours screen on). Performance is good too, at least for me. But keep in mind that its not compareable to latest state of the art like one plus or s5. But it comes for a realy fair price...
Hope it helps [emoji6]
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OnePlus "State of the art"? What you been drinking? LOL
glossywhite said:
OnePlus "State of the art"? What you been drinking? LOL
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Only the hard stuff but dude, have you had a look at its specifications?
Don't hesitate
You can't be wrong. I received mine two weeks ago and couldn't be happier. I used a Samsung Galaxy S2 for almost three years (it was running OmniROM 4.4.4), and I was planning to buy an Galaxy S4, but then I thought I didn't want to spend US$400 on a phone. Finally I bought Moto G 2014 (8GB, Global model with one microSIM - XT1063).
PROS:
- Great screen, may not be "retina" however looks crisp and clear and the five inches are the perfect size.
- Fast enough. I do play games, and even some fast games run smoothly. I was a little scared on the 1.2 Ghz quad Qualcomm, but it's fast and saves a lot of battery.
- I've run 18 straight hours with moderate usage and still 25% battery. Battery is great.
- The microSD slot is just great to have. I spent US$16 on a Transcend 32GB Class10 UHS-1 Memory Card with Adapter and moved my heavy apps there as my ebooks, music and pictures.
- Sometimes you will use your phone to make actual calls. Let me tell you, the sound is great, so natural I was scared when I received the first call.
- Reception is excellent. I usually make a call everyday and with the SGS2 I always lose signal at certain highway spot. I was surprised the Moto managed to keep good quality sound through the same spot. (I'm using same carrier). Of course I did this with the loud speaker (s).
- Comfortable with one hand operation. Perfect size.
- Dual speakers with acceptable sound.
- No bloatware (almost)
- Altough I'm still enjoying stock experience, the phone is easily rootable, and Motorola helps you unlock the bootloader themselves on the site (there's a thread explaining step by step here on XDA)
- Lollipop on the way
- Camera quality very good on normal conditions. Even better than my SGS2 with the same 8 MP camera.
- Not ultra slim, but slim enogh. I was worried about this, but have no regrets. The phone is a great looking device.
- Led indicator
CONTRAS
- I was used to the home button on Samsung devices, and was a little afraid to break the power button, however I found no complains from one year users of the original Moto G. Also there are a few good aps to wake up device with the proximity sensor or accelerator.
- This is being too sissy, but my first Motorola Milestone had a multicolor led indicator which was cool to know if it was a message, lost call, email, etc. Moto G 2014 led is always white.
- In low light conditions, camera is not that good, but there are ways to improve with manual settings.
Let me tell you, all my friends/relatives who've seen my new phone are envy or buying one.
c3cil said:
Hey guy's
I'm planning on buying MOTO G 2014....
Pls post here the pro's and con's....
also, how's the battery life to an average user... Not what the company says...
I've only used XPERIA before this and have no idea... about moto!!!
c3cil
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One M9+ Supreme Camera

Hi All,
I decided to take the plunge and buy the Supreme Camera edition of the handset, just to see if there is any dramatic improvement in camera quality, from the original M9, which I eventually returned for build quality issues!
Took delivery about an hour ago and first thing I noticed is that the build quality on this handset is considerably better than the original M9 that I had on launch. Tight gaps and flush screen, so very pleased. Over the weekend I will give the camera a proper test, to really see if they have made any dramatic improvements.
First up though, and an embarrassing question to ask, but UK English is not an option for the language pack on this handset. How do I download extensions for this, so that I can select UK English for the phone language? I thought it would be obvious, but I cannot find a way to do it?!
Thanks
please let us knowabout your findings!
So the weekend is over. ...can you or would you post your review or opinions about the camera ?
I really want to upgrade from my M7 ....has it since May 15 .....still kicking .
Please do answer . Thank you .
Still waiting !
I wonder if we can s-off this one and get roms from M9+ to work on it, the problem with non-flagship HTC phones is that they have nearly zero custom roms
Your language pack issue?
I have the M9+ and isn't it quite easy to change language? Lol
Settings->Language & Keyboard->Language
And voila, you can change the language of your phone. At least that's what I did. Tell me if it works for you.
Hi I've done it on mine bought it from Hong kong.
You can s-off with sunshine tool.
phone cases for the M9+ and M9+ supreme camera the same?
Glen L said:
phone cases for the M9+ and M9+ supreme camera the same?
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for sure.exactly the same one.
can someone confirm if it comes with Google Play store?
Glen L said:
can someone confirm if it comes with Google Play store?
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Yes, it has got the play store.
Can i install this camera on any phone.
I will buy the M9+ SC only if it gets custom roms. This phone is a perfected M9 but htc is not promoting it at all
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Dont waste your money on it
"One M9+ Supreme Camera Edition allows you to capture your best photos in all situation with built-in 2nd generation OIS and industry-leading focusing technology (Laser AF & PDAF)"
This how HTC describes the M9+ Supreme Camera on their website, and I was stupid enough to believe it, so I went ahead yesterday and made the worst decision ever, trade a Note 5 for this piece of [email protected] Focusing on this thing is almost impossible, colors are always off, the camera app becomes so sluggish with the slightest shake. I lost hope in catching a good shot of my 3 years old daughter.
Add to that a below than average battery life that takes more than 2 hours to fully charge. Then comes the processor, that cant even handle the slightest games like Yahtzee Online and Domino!. I had to go into Developers mode, then turn on the High Performance Mode, which made things a bit better yet affected the already bad battery life. And dont try to watch a YouTube clip at 720p+ reslution, it will empty the battery and shut down before you are done from the phone.
Now I have to live with atleast $150 loss or else I would end up banging both my head and the phone till they crack open.
Oh !
Is it so !
So sad.... I thought it is the perfected version of M9 .
This has started a new thought ...should I now invest a fortune in coming HTC One M10 or go for SGS or Note series phones....
Thanks for your sharing.
Well... it depends on the point of view... I was using HTC phones since Kaiser (TyTN II) and now I have M9+ (not the Supreme Cam model)... I can do good pictures with it, good enough for a phone cause otherwise I'd use Nicon 5300 cam
And I do not really understand people swearing on the battery life... I am using the phone as handy office, calling, sending SMSs and Emails, even playing Fallout Shelter from time to time when I am bored, GPS, Internet... WiFi and Bluetooth connected almost all the time... All I need... Yet I normaly end up with 60-70% at the evennig and I do not bother to recharge during the weekend when I do not use the phone too much...
I even tried Asphalt 4 and it was running with no hiccup...
Damn... what's wrong with you people?
P.S.: I think I would never go for something else, not Samsung in particular, because I am totally happy with M9+...
That's very perplexing .
I have HTC One M7 Dev Ed...with a new camera .... and it captures great photos. Outperforms many of today's so called big shots in terms of looks,sound clarity,screen res , software support ...it can go on and on.
I am also a loyal HTC customer....have owned xda II, xdaIIi, Universal ,HD,HD2....
I am also not comfortable with other Samsung like phones...have used Note2 ....hated it....but...
Let's see what HTC delivers ...fingers crossed.
Sold
I wish I was exaggerating, because I loved the screen, speakers, and mkst importantly the fantastic design and build quality.
The battery got better on the 3rd day, I guess it was calibrating, maybe?
But the bad performance stucked with it, and every time I wanted to play these basic games, I had to switch on the max performance mode, which affected the battery life greatly.
After losing my temper and faith in this phone, I ended up trading it for the A9 32gb, and I am loving it. It might not be better than my old Note 5 or S6 Edge, at least on paper, but I definitely feel like it is the best phone I ve ever had, although I wish HTC gave us a louder speaker sincs this one is so freaken weak.
Battery life is brilliant, averaging more than 5 hrs of sot, and using Samsung's fast charger gets it from 0 to 100% in around 80 minutes max. Performance is amazing, and the camera while not the best, is still very reliable.
Maher.k22 said:
I wish I was exaggerating, because I loved the screen, speakers, and mkst importantly the fantastic design and build quality.
The battery got better on the 3rd day, I guess it was calibrating, maybe?
But the bad performance stucked with it, and every time I wanted to play these basic games, I had to switch on the max performance mode, which affected the battery life greatly.
After losing my temper and faith in this phone, I ended up trading it for the A9 32gb, and I am loving it. It might not be better than my old Note 5 or S6 Edge, at least on paper, but I definitely feel like it is the best phone I ve ever had, although I wish HTC gave us a louder speaker sincs this one is so freaken weak.
Battery life is brilliant, averaging more than 5 hrs of sot, and using Samsung's fast charger gets it from 0 to 100% in around 80 minutes max. Performance is amazing, and the camera while not the best, is still very reliable.
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You must have known before purchasing man, M9+ have low-mid cpu-gpu, that's not its highlight. You can find those components on a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2/Meizu MX5 and this is saying all.
SIRKRA said:
You must have known before purchasing man, M9+ have low-mid cpu-gpu, that's not its highlight. You can find those components on a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2/Meizu MX5 and this is saying all.
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I am not a heavy gamer, that's why I took the risk. But I never knew it won't handle basic games. All in all, I am glad it all went this way and ended up with the A9, because I am loving it.

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