I'm trying to decide between a kindle fire or a nook tablet. To be honest, the biggest selling point for me is, which will be more like a regular android tablet once rooted and flashed with a new rom eventually. I'm as interested in performance as functionality. I would primarily use it for light gaming, movie watching movies & Netflix, and Playing with apps and live wallpaper lol. Sorry, I'm relatively new to Android but i used to be big in windows mobile and flashing a different Rom every other day. I'm really looking for some personal opinions on this. Thanks a lot guys.
supposedly nook tablet has a locked down boot loader so custom roms and what not
wouldn't be made easily the kindle fire.
The Kindle Fire is easily rootable unlike the nook . You may then make it function more like an android tablet with all the apps you like. Read some of the KF threads and you will see the versatility of the KF.
The Nook Tablet is also easily rootable and can function like a normal android tablet. There is a script on the XDA Nook Tablet section that performs a root and then loads the standard Android Market app. From there you can load a launcher from the market (such as GO Launcher) and you are in business.
I too am wondering about this.
I'm mostly wondering if I'd need the extra storage of the nook, because the ram doesn't concern me very much. Google is getting ICS to work on the Nexus S which has the same GPU as the Fire as well as the same amount of ram. I'm confident that ICS builds for the fire based off of Nexus S AOSP will run just as well as Google makes it run on that device.
Locked boot loaders concern me more than ram. I'm thinking fire right now.
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I heard you cant change the font or the brightness in kindle when reading a ebook. I was wondering once you rooted the Kindle does this allow that option or is there an app that does this? How full fledged does the Kindle become when rooted? Does the rooting the Kindle only change the fact that you can now get apps from the Android Market and add some Google apps? Does it unlock anything else that makes the Kindle worth keeping?
I am only asking because My friend let me borrow his 10.1 tablet and i love it. It has all the options I need and my Kindle is coming in today. I did not buy the Kindle my girlfriend bought it without telling me but I really wanted the Nook Tablet which is a better 7 inch tablet and has the mic built in plus you can change the font and adjust the brightness. She has the amazon store card and they don't sell the Nook Tablet on Amazon of course, LOL. So before I open it It I would like to know if It's worth keeping?
Thanks in advance
The options for brightness and fonts are in the default settings. Rooting doesn't disable anything except streaming video (for now and that can be gotten around with things like OTA Rootkeeper).
Rooting for the moment pretty much just lets you get to the Market, yes, but in time it'll let you put custom rom's onto it and basically turn it into a normal tablet.
The Nook Tablet has better hardware, yes. If you don't care about the Amazon 'ecosystem' and don't mind the increase in price it may be more to your liking. Of course, so could some other tablet too.
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I heard you cant change the font or the brightness in kindle when reading a ebook.
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That's true. You have to stop reading the book and go into settings and change the font or brightness.
Where do people "hear" this stuff?
I've been using mine 99% for comic cbr and cbzs. I haven't played with the actual ebooks yet, but I dont see why couldn't. And if you can't, use a different app. I've already grown fond of Aldiko reader since using it over a year on my phone. Version 1.x, I saw v. 2 and they took out half of the features. I've been meaning to check if they reenabled any but Aldiko lets you swipe control brightness and menu swap colors and what not.
You can change brightness, typeface, font size, lines spacing, margins, and color scheme from inside ebooks. Whoever you're hearing this from doesn't know what they're talking about.
And the nook tablet has a.locked bootloadrr and due to.some.other issues is now dead to developers. You can change brightness in books by taping the upper right corner.of.the screen. All other aspects are adjustable as well in the KF.
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I rooted my Fire about a week ago and I am running Go Launcher(w/ Honeycomb and ICS themes) as my default launcher and am using WidgetLocker lockscreen. This sh*t is like a whole new tablet. Once in a while I go look at the Kindle launcher and think how absolutely crappy it is comparatively. I'm very happy. My question is;
Is it really going to be worth the trouble of flashing a new ROM just to get ICS when it's ready? What does it have to offer that Amazon's Gingerbread build in combination with rooting and custom launchers etc. doesn't? Just curious.
1 word.....YES!
Just do a search on new features on ICS.
Once everything gets caught up you will be drooling about ICS. What I'm looking forward to is better support for the expanded space of the Fire, which ICS apps have support for.
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Yess only sound and video isn't working
Hhhmmmm
Might have to try it out when all the bugs are out.
Yes it is worth it. Flashing TWRP isn't much trouble at all. I'd recommend installing CM7 until the ICS rom is at a minimum of a beta stage so you can use your kindle like a full android tablet
It is definitely worth it, I got a Galaxy Nexus on release day with ICS (Android 4.0) and it is a big improvement all around. As soon as it's ready for a everyday use release I will be installing it immediately.
What really intrigues me about ICS is the fact that it was designed with button-less devices in mind. It's going to really be the bee's knees on the Kindle Fire. CM7 does a pretty good job with soft buttons (and the ability to add soft buttons to the long-press power menu, so you can re-enable full-screen support), but it's just going to be that much better with ICS/CM9.
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What really intrigues me about ICS is the fact that it was designed with button-less devices in mind. It's going to really be the bee's knees on the Kindle Fire. CM7 does a pretty good job with soft buttons (and the ability to add soft buttons to the long-press power menu, so you can re-enable full-screen support), but it's just going to be that much better with ICS/CM9.
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I'm getting kinda hyped about it, now.
I have CM7 now it is fully functional and stable. Have Kindle, MP3, from Amazon, and found I can watch Prime VOD via browser by setting user agent to Linux desktop.
I have the ICS clock and taskbar from here and it works and looks great. I look at full ICS entry it goes beta.
using Tapatalk on a Kindle Fire w CM7 ROM
How's that VOD in browser working compared to using the Amazon Video app? As smooth? as nice?
In my opinion, yes. CM7 runs so much smoother and faster. The audio / video sync is perfect, or so minimal I cannot detect it. I have synch issues with Netflix still. Amazon VOD takes more steeps to get into the browser and pop it up full screen, but it is worth it to me, just not like the one touch of the stock Fire launcher.
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Yes, I love it on the Kindle Fire. Visual wise, it looks awesome and crisp on it.
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Yeah I agree it looks amazing, the only thing that bothers me about ICS is that its taking so long to get a good usable rom for everyday usage.
Quick background... I have an Asus Transformer so I don't need to convert my Nook Color back to CM7 however I would like to do more on my NC than just read books. The problem is that I MUCH prefer the original B&N Nook app that comes on the Nook Color over the one that I get from the market place after I load CM7.
so... does anyone have the .apk for that app or is that something built into the original B&N rom?
TIA
It's been tried. At least by a few and isn't feasible. I'm not a Dev but if it is possible, and what isn't with the genius available around here, then it's just not worth the effort when there are other ways to keep the stock reader and still be rooted with market access and such.
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Thanks for the info. Last time I tried to root and install a different launcher I was unimpressed. But that was almost a year ago.
I specifically want the B&N reader, and the ability to get automatic subscription updates. I've been running rooted B&N 1.4.1 for a bit over a month now, and I've found decent work-arounds for most issues. It's not as trouble-free as CM, but I get all the stock B&N functionality.
I think there's a Zen level of simplicity you have to strive for to get the extra functionality you want without overloading the interface. I've added a very few things to the B&N interface, then pop out to ADW EX Launcher when I want to escape the walled garden. Once I'm outside, it's mostly like running CM. The biggest issue is the white-on-white menu display problem some apps have.
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I wish it was available for CM7.
http://golauncher.goforandroid.com/2012/03/go-launcher-hd-v1-0-beta/
look amazingly beautiful
Cant get it to install. Problems parsing package.
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Been using it since yesterday. Love it lots, although don't like that I can't do a 10x10 grid anymore. The options relocation to the top is great though.
I like this launcher and realize it is still in beta but I can not seem to get it to set up more than three rows. Am I missing something or is this a limitation of the beta or of the Fire itself? Thanks
Not really a big fan honestly. Feels and looks a little clunky for me.
New to the site, but just purchased a Nexus 7 to go with my GNex. I am curious to how the existing apps will play with the new 7. Since the resolution is pretty close, will most if not all apps that are compatible with the GNex be available for the Nexus 7? Or, since this is a new OS, do the developers need to tweak the apps to play nice with the new tablet?
Thanks! Cant wait to get the 7.
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New to the site, but just purchased a Nexus 7 to go with my GNex. I am curious to how the existing apps will play with the new 7. Since the resolution is pretty close, will most if not all apps that are compatible with the GNex be available for the Nexus 7? Or, since this is a new OS, do the developers need to tweak the apps to play nice with the new tablet?
Thanks! Cant wait to get the 7.
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All apps will run just fine, they will only need tweaking if they want to take advantage of new JB features. They might also need to be tweaked to take advantage of the screen size but either way they will work just might look a bit odd
I had a question regarding this. Many pointed out that the Nexus 7 opts for a phone based UI rather than the tablet UI we've seen sported on other Honeycomb or ICS tablets.
Seeing as how there are some apps specific to phone and specific to tablets, which apps will work with this? Will the "HD" tablet apps work with this?
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I had a question regarding this. Many pointed out that the Nexus 7 opts for a phone based UI rather than the tablet UI we've seen sported on other Honeycomb or ICS tablets.
Seeing as how there are some apps specific to phone and specific to tablets, which apps will work with this? Will the "HD" tablet apps work with this?
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Most should do yes, how android works out which UI to show or which apps the device supports comes down to its dpi which I believe for the nexus is a 'tablet' dpi, there for it should display tablet versions of the apps (it would seem pointless for them to release a tablet that only supported phone apps).
Also the UI is not strictly the Phone UI as there are 6 buttons along the bottom of the launcher instead of the 4 normally, its more of a hybrid layout
it uses a new small tablet UI that uses the tablet versions of apps (if they work for displays lower than 10") but the phone version of the system.
Interesting! Thank you for the replies. I was actually hoping for a tablet ui style throughout (like that of Honeycomb), I'm guessing this problem will be solved with custom roms? I'd like to be reassured before jumping on board.