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[Q] Jerky scrolling through app drawer

My desire z is real jerky (compared to my brother's desire) when scrolling through the app drawer. Especially when it gets to the easing at the end... I have seen a thread about specific desire Z's being a bit more laggy than others, but how is this possible...
OC to 1.2GHz didnt fix it.
Linpack scores = 44
Quadrant = 2100
I dont think these scores are too bad, and scrolling through the homescreens as well as opening and closing apps is really smooth. Its just the scrolling through the app list thats jerky and I think it is pretty annoying.

Which ROM are you running exactly ?

steviewevie said:
Which ROM are you running exactly ?
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It is not ROM specific, I had this when the phone came right out of the box. Now im running villainROMZ 1.0 and its the same. I thought it had to do with the launcher (on my good ol' G1 it went a lot smoother when using LauncherPro) but its not on my desire z.

Have you installed tons and tons of extra apps ? I've added about 10, and my app drawer scrolls without any problem (on the original stock UK ROM). I've seen people talking about it lagging on some of the custom ROMs though.

no extra apps. first boot on stock ROM since i unpacked it and it was already laggy.

Elegy said:
no extra apps. first boot on stock ROM since i unpacked it and it was already laggy.
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Was it just setting up initial stuff, syncing with Google etc though ? I think you need to allow it to settle down.

steviewevie said:
Was it just setting up initial stuff, syncing with Google etc though ? I think you need to allow it to settle down.
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i did , i let it run for about a day and after settling down its still not as smooth as my little brother's desire. I can live with it though, its just weird it does that. Everything else runs as smooth, if not smoother.
The other thread is about a guy who's Desire Z is made in China and runs slow as well. Mine's made in China too.

Elegy said:
i did , i let it run for about a day and after settling down its still not as smooth as my little brother's desire. I can live with it though, its just weird it does that. Everything else runs as smooth, if not smoother.
The other thread is about a guy who's Desire Z is made in China and runs slow as well. Mine's made in China too.
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I wonder if it's something to do with the Asian ROM ?

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I wonder if it's something to do with the Asian ROM ?
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yeah this was discussed before, but i find it hard to believe. Why would HTC make a ROM for the same phone, but laggier. Makes no sense at all.

Elegy said:
yeah this was discussed before, but i find it hard to believe. Why would HTC make a ROM for the same phone, but laggier. Makes no sense at all.
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Maybe it's a long shot, but it could just be through a mistake, they obviously wouldn't do it deliberately. Like any bugs in the shipping ROMs.

Hey friend,
My DZ is made in Taiwan and I too feel that it lags while scrolling through the apps menu, contacts etc..
I was just going to root my phone inorder to flash the VillainROM.. but now, after reading that it doesn't solve the problem, I will wait for a different solution I guess..
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Archos 101 and 2.2 starting to dislike even more

The more I use this.. the More i realize that Archos needs some majoy fixes coming soon.. The performance on Android 2.2 is actually pretty bad. I think 2.1 ran better.. I can't do more than 2 tabs at a time in the browser. if I do 3 I get mad lag and freezing and often leads to complete freeze if one has flash on it.. Last night it rebooted twice on me after freezing on simple flash sites like Engadget.. My G1 ran better to be honest. Yea it didn't have flash. but my G1 ran better.
At first I was liking 2.2 and it seemed pretty good. but constantly killing tasks trying to keep performance good is getting old. yea yea 256mb ram. People keep saying this, but the Original Droid runs great compared to this. They have pretty similar hardware.. I sure hope root, and a custom rom comes out soon, that or Archos updates 2.2 and actually ENABLES the JIT Compiler and other things this time. cuz performance is slower on 2.2 than on 2.1
I wanna keep this, but I don't at the same time. lol

From what some people with insider information are saying, there will be an update soon. I think they released froyo because they said they would and not because they thought it was perfect. Still have hope something good is coming. Actually I find that the device runs quite ok even though I have to use the task killer very often.
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LauncherPro completely eliminated the response lag for me, and I haven't needed to run a kill since I installed it.
There are only two important settings to optimize performance in the Menu->Preferences. In the General Setting, check "Keep in memory". In the Advanced Settings->Memory Usage Settings, set the 'Memory usage preset' to 'High'.
The device is now faster than it was in 2.1. Archos should be shipping this launcher instead of the default (or properly tune the default launcher).

macemoneta said:
LauncherPro completely eliminated the response lag for me, and I haven't needed to run a kill since I installed it.
There are only two important settings to optimize performance in the Menu->Preferences. In the General Setting, check "Keep in memory". In the Advanced Settings->Memory Usage Settings, set the 'Memory usage preset' to 'High'.
The device is now faster than it was in 2.1. Archos should be shipping this launcher instead of the default (or properly tune the default launcher).
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Agreed I am using ADW Launcher and it is now buttery smooth. - Edit: It completed froze up on me several times since then and I have since removed ADW, it was great for responsiveness and scrolling but it was eating memory like crazy.

Nutsonfire said:
From what some people with insider information are saying, there will be an update soon. I think they released froyo because they said they would and not because they thought it was perfect. Still have hope something good is coming. Actually I find that the device runs quite ok even though I have to use the task killer very often.
i noticed major issues with my archos 28 and 43.the problem was because i installed the Google market from archos fans.its cool and all but i erased it and restored them.they ran near perfect.with market installed i had battery issues and touchscreen issues.if you have market installed and your device is acting up,get rid of market and maybe try again.
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What market installer you use?

Zeam Launcher and Performance so far
micmcguire said:
Agreed I am using ADW Launcher and it is now buttery smooth. - Edit: It completed froze up on me several times since then and I have since removed ADW, it was great for responsiveness and scrolling but it was eating memory like crazy.
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I have since swiched to Zeam Launcher and I love the drawer, and have not had to kill any processes yet. I may have found a winner!

Try doing a full wipe and reinstall. I was having charging issues and did the full wipe and it not only fixed my charging issue, but it sped the whole thing up (even w/out z4root) ad its been far more stable too.

It does that for me too. Much faster and smoother after a full wipe. Runs perfect now with very rare issues of freezing... I was having much more issues beforehand, even z4root not rooting (Which might have been because of app2sd).
All my apps are on the tiny 300MB space now...

Yup me too. Ut is really snappy without even being rooted.
Did a quadrant without root - got 860.
Rooted - 1019.
No lag and no issues on my 70.
micmcguire said:
Agreed I am using ADW Launcher and it is now buttery smooth. - Edit: It completed froze up on me several times since then and I have since removed ADW, it was great for responsiveness and scrolling but it was eating memory like crazy.
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micmcguire said:
I have since swiched to Zeam Launcher and I love the drawer, and have not had to kill any processes yet. I may have found a winner!
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Two days in and still really happy with Zeam. I even removed z4 and set CPU completely from my 101.

timjjcarter said:
Yup me too. Ut is really snappy without even being rooted.
Did a quadrant without root - got 860.
Rooted - 1019.
No lag and no issues on my 70.
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with the new beta firmware the quadrant result is up for 25 %

Ive got the 101 with 2.2 but Im getting ready to sell it off. Im just not happy with it and even IF custom ROMs and perm rooting happens, the limitation of the app storage and 256 RAM is a killer for me. I thought it would perform ok and for some I guess it does but it isnt living up to me standards.
Maybe the G-Tab or Adam will be better

Yea im not sure what i think anymore. I was loving it for a day or 2.
Ive been running LP n it made scrolling better, but thats all. I feel like overall stock is better.
ive been having even more major problems after writing that post. Now archos tv out, music, and video widgets all crash on startup and FC if i try to open them. It has froze completely 4 times tonight. Restarted 3 on its own. Browser cant handle more than 2 tabs.. i just wiped my device back to stock once again. For now things seem pretty good. Ill give it a few days stock n see. But been smooth the last hour or so
Im seriously considering selling it and getting a like new Galaxy Tab. The G was decent, and the N Ink is unproven n not even shown its hardware in a while.. but i have high hopes. Well see. I do agree froyo was not ready n needs some serious work. Archos needs a update asap

cajl said:
with the new beta firmware the quadrant result is up for 25 %
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Beta Firmware?

Yes, there are a few people that do beta testing.
And i can confirm that without root and setcpu we are now arount 1400-1500.

fzelle said:
Yes, there are a few people that do beta testing.
And i can confirm that without root and setcpu we are now arount 1400-1500.
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Great news! Hopefully it is working at least as good as the 1.0.84 (no SMB and WPA2 wifi issues)

Issues keeping me from loving it (I think these are all pretty common):
No access to the files on my WHS except via UPnP (SMB Folder Empty issue)
Graphical lock no longer shows green lines (it does unlock though)
WIFI occasionally quits until I stop/restart it
Flash is slower than dirt and causes Dolphin HD to FC a lot (I ended up uninstalling flash)
General lagginess unless I constantly kill tasks

WHS seems to have an authorisation problem, as with every linux box smb seems to work flawlessly ( as with my buffalo Mini ).
As there is no official Flash you can only have one that was designed for another device, so that explains a little.
I personaly have only seen the remark from archos that they have a hw accelerated version in a certification process by adobe.
And the rest might be already fixed, if i would know anything or could talk about it.

fzelle said:
WHS seems to have an authorisation problem, as with every linux box smb seems to work flawlessly ( as with my buffalo Mini ).
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Yeah, the issue is that Archos doesn't give you a way to specify the username/password combination to use to connect to the SMB server. I bet if I turned on guest access to my WHS it would work, but I'd prefer not to do that...

Android running slow :(

I don´t think im the only one who experienced that problem. If i install a new rom, the rom is smooth as butter. But if i use it a few days, it starts to lag. I tried the most Launcher (ADW, ADW EX, Stock, Launcher Pro, and so on) I got only google services running in Background. I´ve also experienced it without installing any new apps on my DZ. I think, if is spend so much money for a device, it has to run fast without any lag (i´m not talking about games, only the gui). I tried with and without overclocking, I tried Sense and AOSP Roms...
At the beginning everything runs like hell, and 4-5 days later its not that snappy as it should be. I always did a full wipe before installing a new rom and dont even restored my apps and settings with titanium backup.
If someone suggest my things i could try to speed my device up it would so great. And no, i dont use a tast-killer.
Thank you

How fast do you keep your phone clocked? If I have mine set where it is able to go below 806 I find it does lag some. So I keep it at 1017.
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deliriousDroid said:
How fast do you keep your phone clocked? If I have mine set where it is able to go below 806 I find it does lag some. So I keep it at 1017.
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Ive clocked it always on 806 or higher.

Then I really have no idea my friend. Hmm, no bloatware? No apps using crazy amounts of CPU?
Sent from my SilverBullet "HTCDesireZ running CM7"

Am running MIUI and its pretty snappy. I never use task killer and never been slow. Lol I have about 80 apps installed.
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Unusual... I'm running stock with LauncherPro, and the only time I get any real lag is when I'm using a 3D live wallpaper. Switching to a static image fixes that instantly. And that's with Twidroyd, Trillian and Touchdown running in the background. No task killer, they seem to do more harm than good aside from getting rid of outright hung processes.

I know exactly what you mean, man. I will try a ROM and be in love with it then like a week later it starts lagging like a sunuvabitch. Launcher pro has helped a bit.
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I have no lag whatsoever on cm7
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.

b1oh4zard said:
I don´t think im the only one who experienced that problem. If i install a new rom, the rom is smooth as butter. But if i use it a few days, it starts to lag. I tried the most Launcher (ADW, ADW EX, Stock, Launcher Pro, and so on) I got only google services running in Background. I´ve also experienced it without installing any new apps on my DZ. I think, if is spend so much m........
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I just bought a G2 and still really fast with Virtuous ROM. Before i use Samsung i5700 (Spica), and almost the same thing, phone became laggy every 2 weeks. What i did is the following:
1. boot into recovery mode (CWM)
2. advanced -> wipe dalvik cache
3. restart
and viola phone start to be fast again. However i read somewhere in this forum that wiping dalvik is not recommended tough.. but hey..it works for me, so why not

Thanks for your Replys
If the rom starts lagging, i wiped dalvik cache alread to see if it helps and it doesn´t
Miui is a Problem for me cause i only can use the old miui from q´n´d cause its the only miui rom i got my german language pack & keyboard working and im not a big fan of miui. I would love to run the stock g2 rom, but it also has no german language built in and the only stock g2 rom wich works w/o problems on dz is the rooted one where my german keychars on hw keyboard doens´t work...
Also i got no process running in background wich uses more than 2-3% cpu at all. my logcat also doesn´t show something that could cause the lagging. I´m not using a live wallpaper, a taskkiller or something that way.
TJBunch1228 <- I got exactly the same

How often are you guys rebooting your phones? I had a similar issue, started rebooting my phone every night, and wa-la, it works awesome with no lag.
I use an app called CT Scheduler. It was free on the market, but I don't think it's there anymore. I'm sure there are others, this one lets me specify a time for the phone to reboot. I chose 2am (while I'm sleeping).

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How often are you guys rebooting your phones? I had a similar issue, started rebooting my phone every night, and wa-la, it works awesome with no lag.
I use an app called CT Scheduler. It was free on the market, but I don't think it's there anymore. I'm sure there are others, this one lets me specify a time for the phone to reboot. I chose 2am (while I'm sleeping).
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I reboot my phone every day. I charge it turnd off and power it on every morning.

Now i found my problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-950250.html
That means android take a lil while to know whether the screen is touched or swiped, this produces a noticable "lag" when swipe between homescreens. Now i have to find a way to reduce the time for android to notice that.
If someone could tell my the path or the variable where this is stored.
Thanks

b1oh4zard said:
Now i found my problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-950250.html
That means android take a lil while to know whether the screen is touched or swiped, this produces a noticable "lag" when swipe between homescreens. Now i have to find a way to reduce the time for android to notice that.
If someone could tell my the path or the variable where this is stored.
Thanks
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Got it fixed now. I pulled HTC Calibration.apk from a Rom and installed it on my DZ and now my screen is much more responsive cm7 with adw runs like a charm again I hope it doesn´t "slow" down anymore

b1oh4zard said:
Got it fixed now. I pulled HTC Calibration.apk from a Rom
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Please be kind and give me a hint.
Where can I find the apk? (Path?)

[Q] Internal HD speed

Does anyone know the speed on it, since a lot of my high read apps have huge issues with my transformer. I wanted to also know if there was anyway to point or force them to run off my class 10 card I got in it.

Its not a hard drive, its NAND flash memory and it should be as quick or quicker than your SD card

ryan stewart said:
Its not a hard drive, its NAND flash memory and it should be as quick or quicker than your SD card
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Weird, for some reason my tablet seems to be getting slower and it's driving me nuts. Now I am not sure if it's the custom rom or not, maybe I should just say nuts to it and get rid of root and reload the stock rom.
Is there a way to test the read wright speed so I can double check?

RiffyDivine said:
Weird, for some reason my tablet seems to be getting slower and it's driving me nuts. Now I am not sure if it's the custom rom or not, maybe I should just say nuts to it and get rid of root and reload the stock rom.
Is there a way to test the read wright speed so I can double check?
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Do you have a task killer running? If you do, then that's most likely the culprit.

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Do you have a task killer running? If you do, then that's most likely the culprit.
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Nope, the biggest issues are when just pictures or chandroid is running. They move fine but slow to a crippled crawl in a bit, as for a task killer I don't have any unless it comes stock off the custom rom.
Honestly it is annoying as hell when it gets to a craw and then force close over and over.

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Nope, the biggest issues are when just pictures or chandroid is running. They move fine but slow to a crippled crawl in a bit, as for a task killer I don't have any unless it comes stock off the custom rom.
Honestly it is annoying as hell when it gets to a craw and then force close over and over.
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Sounds like it's just a bad app?

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Sounds like it's just a bad app?
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No, they both work fine on my nook and my hd2 and my other tablet. It's just the newest one I got (ie the transformer) that I started to notice the issue. I worked with the dev from chandroid and we tried everything and he said as he looked over the crash report that there was nothing wrong with the app.
On the stock build of OS, he said it was an issue being caused by splashtop stuff. Is there anyway to rip every program out by the core needed to run and let me add them one at a time to test?

RiffyDivine said:
No, they both work fine on my nook and my hd2 and my other tablet. It's just the newest one I got (ie the transformer) that I started to notice the issue. I worked with the dev from chandroid and we tried everything and he said as he looked over the crash report that there was nothing wrong with the app.
On the stock build of OS, he said it was an issue being caused by splashtop stuff. Is there anyway to rip every program out by the core needed to run and let me add them one at a time to test?
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If you're rooted, you should just be able to uninstall stuff with Titanium Backup.. but make sure you backup the app first.

hauj0bb said:
If you're rooted, you should just be able to uninstall stuff with Titanium Backup.. but make sure you backup the app first.
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Aye, I got root. I was hoping to find out if there was a rom that was just barebones. So more or less do a full backup and then pull them all out and test it one at a time? I can just do a backup in clockwork mod.
I am just reaching a head with being annoying and asking for help.

RiffyDivine said:
Aye, I got root. I was hoping to find out if there was a rom that was just barebones. So more or less do a full backup and then pull them all out and test it one at a time? I can just do a backup in clockwork mod.
I am just reaching a head with being annoying and asking for help.
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Yeah, I'm not aware of a super barebones rom. Full backup and uninstall one by one is what I would do.

hauj0bb said:
Yeah, I'm not aware of a super barebones rom. Full backup and uninstall one by one is what I would do.
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What is the best way to remove anything/everything? Cause if I got it backed up and if I blow the OS I can just do a recovery.

The easiest way would be to freeze the app with titanium backup, you could also just manually rename it or delete it.

RiffyDivine said:
No, they both work fine on my nook and my hd2 and my other tablet. It's just the newest one I got (ie the transformer) that I started to notice the issue. I worked with the dev from chandroid and we tried everything and he said as he looked over the crash report that there was nothing wrong with the app.
On the stock build of OS, he said it was an issue being caused by splashtop stuff. Is there anyway to rip every program out by the core needed to run and let me add them one at a time to test?
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Is the nook running honeycomb?

ryan stewart said:
Is the nook running honeycomb?
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I believe so.

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I believe so.
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Should be obvious. Does it look and act identical to the transformer?
Once thing I have found is that apps can run well on older versions of android but have issues with honeycomb. Like cut the rope, it crashes and is slower to load on the tablet but blazes on my evo. Asked the dev and he said its not yet developed for honeycomb.
My TFs internal memory is plenty fast.

Just root it without someones Rom. Stock would be your goal to see if a Rom affects it.
Watchdog from the market would help. It would show you what apps are running and how much they are using the Cpu
When I use Dolphin HD or Pad I can see when it's hanging up...not loading the page then..it dies lol freaking apps.

ryan stewart said:
Should be obvious. Does it look and act identical to the transformer?
Once thing I have found is that apps can run well on older versions of android but have issues with honeycomb. Like cut the rope, it crashes and is slower to load on the tablet but blazes on my evo. Asked the dev and he said its not yet developed for honeycomb.
My TFs internal memory is plenty fast.
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It wasn't obvious cause I wasn't at home. Yes it is running 3.0 it's a stable honeycomb build but I never use the nook much if at all.

DilloDroid said:
Just root it without someones Rom. Stock would be your goal to see if a Rom affects it.
Watchdog from the market would help. It would show you what apps are running and how much they are using the Cpu
When I use Dolphin HD or Pad I can see when it's hanging up...not loading the page then..it dies lol freaking apps.
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I will try that, honestly I just want a way to see what's going on with it. I am not sure if it's using all the memory or what with all the images it loads. Since my problems always come from mass images loading.

Possibly just eating up your RAM then - the SSD shouldn't be (that) active if it's image loading and not saving.

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Possibly just eating up your RAM then - the SSD shouldn't be (that) active if it's image loading and not saving.
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Well like with just pictures, it's a big display of thumbnails for viewing your images. I know it can cashe the data to make it faster but that just seems to make it slower, as for chandroid the longer I use it the slower it gets. So maybe it's not purging old data?

Can someone convince me to keep my tab..

I bought this a few months back don't get me wrong its a excelebt device. But im finding it slow and anoying to the poiny i want to get rid of it, im fed up with how apps can run on there own without permission and slow the hell out of the tab and kill battery i fibd it silly how the default launcher widgets dobt fit the screen. Apps dont look good at times due to the screen resolution etc. Can someone convince me otherwise ps i do use other laubchers they just lag. Only way you get a lag free tab.is if you have no apps
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Not sure why your lagging so badly my tab never lags maybe u got to much stuff installed u dont need id look at getting a task manager app and reducing the apps you have open at once.

I dont have loads of apps open i was trying to use.the one built in.go launcher i dont evan.have loads of apps installed my nexus has far more apps installed and its insane
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What are you running? If stock then carrier had probably crippled it even with their junk ware. Suggest running overcome kratos, or stock non-carrier gingerbread-can find both in the dev section. They work very fast with no bad lag.
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Convince us first why there is a need for us to convince you.

I'm running gingerbread stock, no kernals just plain stock.
Sent from my Google Nexus S using XDA App

Run the ROM/Kernel from Overcome and you will have your speed back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1205990

Or we could send around 4 big blokes with various tablet devices to show you the error of your ways....

Overcome is good, but I prefer CyanogenMod, completely sans TouchWiz. Both are great, and you should definitely switch to one of them. You will gain a lot of performance and battery life back, for sure.

Might be a rogue app. I run the 'Fast Reboot' to dump stuff before and after a game, seems to help. The 2.3.3 update made things far smoother too.

Thanks for the replys cm put me right off i used it with my nexus i had constant reboots and a greenish screen animation bug
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completely sans TouchWiz.
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........?
Whats "sans TouchWiz"

SANS means "Without (French)"
http://www.internetslang.com/SANS.asp

I'm running the old gingerbread prep rom that came packaged with the overcome rom. I had such great speed from this that I didn't even bother to move onto overcome.
Apart from the occasional stutter, everything is very smooth, particularly web browsing. This prep rom is just stock ginger with root, and it's almost perfect. All of the ginger builds are largely identical so I can't see how you could have ginger and bad lag unless you have an app bogging it down.
Have you tried a factory reset and started fresh?

Use Fast Reboot
its free on the market, it made my tab run whole lot faster than it was.
ofcourse after installing Kratos and overclocking to 1.3Ghz it runs a lot better, but i still use Fast Reboot. it simulates a restart without doing one, causing all processes to close and come back up.
very nice app.
you can buy the paid one for scheduling it to run at times when memory usage is too high

I dont like doing factory resets my uses the tab for them farm like money games and its anoying starting from scratch
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keep your tab bro. still so many areas to explore your tab.

i see what you mean op....my tab is a beautiful device.... hardware wise.. but going from mango to sluggish android is horrible... how i wish i could install wp7 or windows 8 on my tab....

or u can try task650 rom too

ATN24 said:
or u can try task650 rom too
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It looks nice, but I expect it won't work on the P1000 (7") Tab.