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Sorry guys, bad news. Sorry if this has already been posted and it has eluded me, but the hermes/TyTN cannot play your Divx/Xvid encoded AVI files in TCPMP!
I've read on some other forums that I am not alone in this area as during TCPMP installation, a pop message makes some mention of the on-board ATI imaging.....whatever. Point is the ATI stuff on the VarioII/TyTN interferes with TCPMP to the point of causing such interference that the interface is 'scrambled' almost like severe 'bad reception' to the point of being totally unuseable. I'm gutted. I've tried most versions of TCPMP includinc 0.71 and 0.72, but to no avail.
I've now tried for the first time other players, like PocketMVP, but no joy.
I was wondering if any TyTN/VarioII/VPA...owners have had a positive experience in this regard?
Specifically with their own Divx or Xvid encoded movie clips or full DVD's converted to such an AVI file.
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
P.S. The developers of TCPMP are well aware of this as there are many posts on this topic in their forum but till now no solution.
Has anybody found an alternative player? And for those unfamiliar with this problem, NO Windows Media Player cannot handle Divx/Xvid AVI videos (which IMHO are the best quality video files on a PPC).
mackaby007
MDA VarioII/HTC TyTN
ROM: 1.21.11.3
ROM date: 06/19/06
Radio: 1.05.05.00
Protocol: 32.36.7010.04H
I am just trying VLC for ppc will post findings!
TCPMP working well now on Hermes...RawFrameBuffer mode
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I am just trying VLC for ppc will post findings!
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Not to worry. Got our fav player working thanks to some other guys.
See below for link to solution:
http://www.4winmobile.com/viewtopic.php?p=36600#36600
thank you VERY MUCH for that info. i was getting a bit worried that i wouldnt be able to play my videos with my new xda trion. i actually experienced better performance with the GDI video settings vs. the RawFramBuffer mode.
mdajax said:
thank you VERY MUCH for that info. i was getting a bit worried that i wouldnt be able to play my videos with my new xda trion. i actually experienced better performance with the GDI video settings vs. the RawFramBuffer mode.
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Thanks for that mdajax. Do you or anyone else know what the difference is between them?
Just set TCPMP to use Raw FrameBuffer or GDI through options -> video and it plays fine
ok video play but bad quality... and bad sound !!!!
Framebuffer mode outperforms GDI on varioII in TCPMP
mdajax said:
thank you VERY MUCH for that info. i was getting a bit worried that i wouldnt be able to play my videos with my new xda trion. i actually experienced better performance with the GDI video settings vs. the RawFramBuffer mode.
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When I first read this post, I thought little of it until I came across some stuttering on Video playback under GDI settings.
I decided to run a Benchtest under TCPMP in both modes, and on my VarioII, RawFramebuffer mode outperformed GDI mode by minimum of 50%. Additionally, under 'Media Information' of TCPMP, GDI mode played back the Mpeg1 video file at 18 fps compared to 33 fps in framebuffer mode (no stutters either).
It must be differences between the ROMs or other 3rd party Apps that is causing such a great degree of difference, but for now, I'm sticking to RAWFRAMEBUFFER mode. :wink:
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ok video play but bad quality... and bad sound !!!!
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looks and sounds great on mine. what kind of video files are you trying to play? what resolution/bitrate? if you're trying to play like an hr hdtv xvid file...then yea...your phone will have a hard time playing it.
i just use the psp or ipod video convertor to convert to 320x240, 768kbps...and it looks & plays beautifully.
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atonparis said:
ok video play but bad quality... and bad sound !!!!
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looks and sounds great on mine. what kind of video files are you trying to play? what resolution/bitrate? if you're trying to play like an hr hdtv xvid file...then yea...your phone will have a hard time playing it.
i just use the psp or ipod video convertor to convert to 320x240, 768kbps...and it looks & plays beautifully.
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The forementioned file was an MPEG 1 file @320x240 from pocketmovies.net, though usually I encode my own vids using DVDx and Divx Codec 6.0 @320x240 @ 400 or 500kbps and all play flawlessly. Presently though I can't test them coz I haven't received my Transflash card yet!
But hey, if it works for you, more power to ya. The other works better for me. :wink:
It's starts playing fine. But what happenes when you pause video and then play again? Mine is stuffers like hell, only solution is reload videofile....
Yep same here, works just great with video set to rawframebuffer and audio to anything, but after a puse or skip to later in the video audio stutters and the only resolution to it is reloading the file.
Same problem over here.
Even with BT radio off, I have the same scrambled view when selecting Ati.
Raw frame buffer works for video, but then I still have the audio skipping after pause.
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mdajax said:
atonparis said:
ok video play but bad quality... and bad sound !!!!
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looks and sounds great on mine. what kind of video files are you trying to play? what resolution/bitrate? if you're trying to play like an hr hdtv xvid file...then yea...your phone will have a hard time playing it.
i just use the psp or ipod video convertor to convert to 320x240, 768kbps...and it looks & plays beautifully.
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The forementioned file was an MPEG 1 file @320x240 from pocketmovies.net, though usually I encode my own vids using DVDx and Divx Codec 6.0 @320x240 @ 400 or 500kbps and all play flawlessly. Presently though I can't test them coz I haven't received my Transflash card yet!
But hey, if it works for you, more power to ya. The other works better for me. :wink:
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those psp/ipod video convertor programs (videora to be exact) convert it to mpeg4 format, using h.264. i've never tried playing an mpeg1 file on my mda or trion, but you should at least test a converted mp4 video file on your device and see how it plays.
edit: i just ran a benchmark of an alicia keys video...hehe, which is mpeg4, h.264, 768kbps...and the test reported an avg. of 27fps.
right now mine works decently with the imate rom with rawframebuffer i can pause and play it (minor hiccup occurs but then its fine) much better than having to reload it every time.
but for the quality ( and use pause) i prefer use WM encoder....
Guys can yo play back an Mpeg2 stream? Every time I try I get an error saying TCMP unsupported. Although I am usin version 0.66!
Guys can yo play back an Mpeg2 stream? Every time I try I get an error saying TCMP unsupported. Although I am usin version 0.66!
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Guys can yo play back an Mpeg2 stream? Every time I try I get an error saying TCMP unsupported. Although I am usin version 0.66!
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It's not supported husain. But WMP10 can play it if the bitrate is not to exessive, but it will most likely be stuttery/jerky. It is after all the DVD format and requires hefty processing power to be smooth. Best bet IMHO is to use an encoder and use Divx or Xvid at whatever bitrate suits your needs. Anything between 500 - 768 kbps will look like DVD quality on a PPC QVGA device @320x240 resolution. :wink:
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Guys can yo play back an Mpeg2 stream? Every time I try I get an error saying TCMP unsupported. Although I am usin version 0.66!
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It's not supported husain. But WMP10 can play it if the bitrate is not to exessive, but it will most likely be stuttery/jerky. It is after all the DVD format and requires hefty processing power to be smooth. Best bet IMHO is to use an encoder and use Divx or Xvid at whatever bitrate suits your needs. Anything between 500 - 768 kbps will look like DVD quality on a PPC QVGA device @320x240 resolution. :wink:
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Thanks m8; have you managed to get rtsp working on tytn? I have tried with various degrees of transcoding with VLC on my PC using VOD (RTSP protocol) which works fine on other pc over wifi around the house; although the video streaming client that comes with my MDA vario 2 does not recognise the stream, Has anyone had any sucess playing any RTSP stream? Thanks in advance!
hai- i have installed the coreplayer 1.32. everything is fine ^^
everthing? not even everything.- I tried to play WMV9 and there is no sound and blank screen. movie is playing... ???
whats wrong?
wmp is laggy ****. coreplayer dont lag but no WMV9?
Try this here (esp. posts #2 & 3): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290176
Helped me with TCPMP, runs also with Core Player
I can not play youtube videos. I can search and browse through the categories, but when i want to play a video i get back to the starting screen.
Anybody else with this problem?
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I can not play youtube videos. I can search and browse through the categories, but when i want to play a video i get back to the starting screen.
Anybody else with this problem?
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select one to the RTSP formats. works for most but still not all videos.
hi. i just try to copy the files in windows directory. no way. no video, no audio.
very curios if i download a wmv9 test file and open it with tcmp or corepl it works correctly. but if i wanna stream from maxdome.com it dont work ???
on windows media player it works. there is video and audio!!!!!!
but windows media plaer is laggy in all video formats ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
lag lag lag wmp
anyone ideas?
thx
anyone knows what format and resolution and everything is best for coreplayer on tp2?
Well I tried to open a dvx movie with tcpmp and I could not get anything but few purple lines.... and the pro2 freezed.
The same movie with the same tcpmp works perfecly on my old htc touch!
Any clue?
FD
im having loads of issues with core player so much i have stopped using it
i purchased it and it plays everything but it just laggs and stutters along so much its un watchable
any tips on how to sort it out would be great, i keep hearing its the muts nuts of media players but so far ive struggled with it
on one file its played 265 frames dropped 1923 and a FPS of 3.63 this is an mpeg4 files 800 x 480 avc h264
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im having loads of issues with core player so much i have stopped using it
i purchased it and it plays everything but it just laggs and stutters along so much its un watchable
any tips on how to sort it out would be great, i keep hearing its the muts nuts of media players but so far ive struggled with it
on one file its played 265 frames dropped 1923 and a FPS of 3.63 this is an mpeg4 files 800 x 480 avc h264
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Same lag and stutters overhere. Any solutions out there allready?
Default mediaplayer suddenly stopped working on my TP2, though the quality was way better then the core player's. Too bad it doesn't work no more.
can anyone help with this after paying for core player it wont play anything with out stuttering along
everything used to lag for me in coreplayer, including videos but if i switch the audio settings to higher priority for mp3 files they play without a hitch. now if only i can find out how to do the same for videos
Add me to the list of VERY unsatisfied results with Coreplayer on the TP2... it absolutely SUCKS. BIG TIME. Laggy and crappy... how is a man suppose to watch all those great videos stuttering!
I had the same issue (laggy, ...) a couple of months ago. I sent an email to CorePlayer support and got this answer back :
"Hello,
This is a known issue and we are working with several people on trying to track it down and are hopeful to have it included with the next release. I can offer you a full refund if you would like.
Regards,
CoreCodec Support Group"
They expect to release the new version by the end of this month.
Just have to wait...
Hope it helps.
Are you using DirectShow? If not, try it.
Great on TP2
Coreplayer is running great on my TP2. Watched 2 movies today and the video looked great and frames were solid. Honestly its the best thing i did for my TP2 yet. I dont believe it will handle 800x480 but a little bit lower resolution should still be fine and the video scales very well. Check this review on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uONMuEeTo7A&feature=related
Watch near the end when he shows how Coreplayer runs.
REFUND!!!
So I just sent my refund request for Coreplayer. It has a bug with Tv-Out causing it to show a blue flicker. Also it has no real hardware support yet. The best thing I found was the Touch HD gui encoder program. It puts your videos into formats the built in players can use and those do have hardware support. So while coreplayer is a great app its not for the TP2.
Disable DirectDraw in TCPMP. Use GDI mode.
I am not sure if the following has any effect when DirectDraw is disabled, but this is the way I have it:
Select Options\Settings, then click on "Select page" and select DirectDraw.
You will see three options. Only select the one that says "use blitting instead of overlay"
This worked for me...
I am trying to play downloaded DVD movies on my Rhodium and i presume its using Windows Media, the playback is sluggish and the sound is not in sync with the playback, is this the best i can expect after spending £500 or is it just that i need another media player? Shooting video and playing back seems fine the problem is when i convert a DVD the playback is pretty appalling, ANY HELP FROM ANYONE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
tHANKS
Allan
What format are the movies you're downloading? What are you using to convert them? Are the downloaded movies in sync? How about the converted ones? If you play them on your PC, are they synced up?
Check the resolution of the movie. Make sure it is 640x480. You don;t want to have the CPU doing all the resizing as the movie is being played. Some format may be better than the others too. And try with WMP. I believe it has hardware acceleration built-in.
Still I would love the phone be able to play HD 720p videos natively. Maybe one day.
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Still I would love the phone be able to play HD 720p videos natively. Maybe one day.
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amen! lol anyways ya you just arent formating the dvd'rips very well then cause i have a few full dvd's playing in perfect quality and timing on WMP and that's not even the best player to use
Use core player, it works fine with most videos (far better than the standard app)
Vio
try VIO Video Converter for your DVD conversions and select full quality. The file sizes are large but the quality and audio/video sync is superb.
Core Player is great and I consider 640x384 to be the optimal resolution for playback. Get a good video encoder and experiment for yourself though.
Use Super C to resize the video and then coreplayer to play it, no problems at all!
I can play 800x480 AVC @1.2Mbit/s through HTC Media Player smoothly. In Coreplayer I can't even get 1 FPS out of that file. I use MEGUI with the Zune settings to convert the video from a Bluray format.
As far as I can see, there isn't a good option right now, unless someone can say/prove otherwise.
For example: I have an AVI encoded with Divx 5 636*346, avg bitrtate 900, mp3 stereo. I can get this to play smoothly on much older hardware (a Palm TX), without conversion, via TCMPC.
So, WHY can't I find a player that works smoothly on the TP2?
I've read that the TP2 can handle avg bitrates up to 1,400 kbps; and it doesn't make sense to re-encode at a screen res lower than the bloody device.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
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I can play 800x480 AVC @1.2Mbit/s through HTC Media Player smoothly. In Coreplayer I can't even get 1 FPS out of that file. I use MEGUI with the Zune settings to convert the video from a Bluray format.
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What is the HTC Media Player? Anyonehave a cab?
barneypooch said:
As far as I can see, there isn't a good option right now, unless someone can say/prove otherwise.
For example: I have an AVI encoded with Divx 5 636*346, avg bitrtate 900, mp3 stereo. I can get this to play smoothly on much older hardware (a Palm TX), without conversion, via TCMPC.
So, WHY can't I find a player that works smoothly on the TP2?
I've read that the TP2 can handle avg bitrates up to 1,400 kbps; and it doesn't make sense to re-encode at a screen res lower than the bloody device.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
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What I don't understand is that Coreplayer on my device has a verry low FPS. BUT when selecting the Benchmark function, the movie will play beautiful... (Only the movie and sound synchronisation is not so best...)
Anybody a working solution? On a different forum, i've read that HTC Album has the best hardware acceleration. They adviced to play movies with thc album (In the mp4 format)
Greets, Ranney
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It come on the device. HTC Album
i just can't imagine that there is no possibility to play normal divx/avi movies on my tp2 .. just like on pc.
i don't want to waste my time converting all videos just to watch it on tp2 ..
same prob with subtitle support .. can't be that difficult ?! only tcpmp can play them with an extension .. (and that video playback isn't smooth!)
http://kinoma.com/
give that a try and let us know if you are happy or not please
kinoma doesn't support divx/xvid
i use a free program called handbrake and my settings are 480x320,mpeg4,480 biterate-Audio,AAC 160 biterate. i actually used these settings on my G1 originally but when i got my TP2 i tried a few of the movies out since they wur already on my memory card and they all play and sound great on the default player.
im using coreplayer and ive not had a problem playing any movie downloaded from the net. anything from 700mb to 1.6mb dvd rips, ive watched probably 60 odd and they've all played perfectly. never had to convert anything.
coreplayer is definetely the best thing to get supports pretty much everything
i only use the album player for converted hd content (using the converter someone made on this site) = that plays excellent as well, and looks better (i might be ight in thinking album uses hardward acceleration as well)
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What I don't understand is that Coreplayer on my device has a verry low FPS. BUT when selecting the Benchmark function, the movie will play beautiful... (Only the movie and sound synchronisation is not so best...)
Anybody a working solution? On a different forum, i've read that HTC Album has the best hardware acceleration. They adviced to play movies with thc album (In the mp4 format)
Greets, Ranney
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Menu > Tools > Preferences > Select Page > Video
Change "Video Output" to GDI if the player is choppy/crappy. On my Telus (CDMA) Touch Pro 2 the QTv Display works fine but I know other HTC devices have required GDI instead.
The playback on this phone sucks big time! Not sure what it is .... coreplayer GDI does not work and Tcpmp with all kinds of tweaks settings does not play videos smooth at all. You can tell there are frame skipping in my phone. My wing plays videos better than this. GEEZ!!!!!
Its well documented that Core player (this forums media player of choice) only uses CPU for play back and doesnt utilise any GPU acceleration.
Do you know of any players out there that use both GPU and CPU for vid processing?
Smart Movie from lonely cat games is pretty decent any one got an opinion on that as a media player?
Would I be right in assuming that using GPU over CPU to play back video will have a good effect on the battery life, or will powering that screen outweigh any benefits.
Windows media player and the htc album player both use gpu playback on the codecs they support i cannot remember the ones that definately have it. Im sure someone else will or go find the default ones, post and i may be able to remember from that list instead.
any way of installing "codecs" to the standard players then ? since they use both cpu and gpu wich coreplayer dosent ...
That's a very good question I have tried coreplayer and tcpmp and too be honest I am not that impressed by them.
+1 for being able to use additional codecs via WMP.
I just want to be able to play xvids!! Really shouldn't be too difficult in the days where Windows 7 supports them naively on my laptop
I'm using Touch HD.
I have used this tool to convert videos to MP4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
And play them using Album.
kengkaj.s said:
I'm using Touch HD.
I have used this tool to convert videos to MP4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
And play them using Album.
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Hi there - thanks for the tip. However, personally I don't want to have to go to the trouble of converting etc. I generally have all of my videos in xvid format as this is a fairly universal format (sometimes play them on my Media Centre, sometime on others Xbox 360s etc), so just want to be able to play these on my HD2!
It seems that Rockplayer is now out of beta and is in the market.
It's free with adverts and $9.99 without.
There's a webpage here too:
http://rockplayer.freecoder.org/index_en.html
Sicknesssssssssssssss
ROCKSSSSSSSSS on my DESIRE!
thanks for info just trying it now and gotta say im impressed :O great player thanks !
Any major change from the last beta?
I'm aware the UI and options have been improved drastically.
EDIT: Many changes: http://www.diffthink.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=42&sid=f9cc2d545484da204e54b2b144d12627
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Sucks that the red "R" is back unless you buy it.
GUI looks really nice, but I just tryed playing one of the movies recorded with my Desire and sound is all messed up like a really high squeeky sound all the time. Anyone else experience that?
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
Yep, sound is just a high squeeky noise on anything recorded using Desire camera on mine as well.
Xvids are fine.
Playing issues
I am impressed how well this player can play DIVX or Avi movies smoothly, but I think this player has problem playing MP4 or MPEG files that are recorded from other phones. For example I have some collection of MP4 files that I have recorded from my previous windows mobile phone, but when I tried to play them with rockplayer, the sound are so horrible. High pitch and full of noise, very distorted. I thought maybe the files are corrupted, but when I tried to transfer them to my blackberry phone...they just work perfect! SO pretty sure this is the rockplayer issues. I guess this player is NOT yet perfect after all.
The player does not play well mp4 and mkv files with multiple audio tracks in container.
What a f... SRT support?
Amazing!
Yes, but it doesn't support special characters.
(Nema šumnika. )
THE PLAYER IS REALLY NICE but i too get some audio problems once in a while
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Yes, but it doesn't support special characters.
(Nema šumnika. )
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It does, subtitles just need to be UTF-8 encoded (File -> Save as -> Coding:UTF in Notepad is enough)
Change to "System Mode" in the settings and then try the 3GP and MP4 vids. Should work far better... works for me
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Change to "System Mode" in the settings and then try the 3GP and MP4 vids. Should work far better... works for me
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WOW you are right....that fix the sound problem I have in playing those clips I have recorded with my other phones Awesome...In all honesty I really think HTC should release this type of application FOR FREE too! Come on even Samsung has this capability...most other phone even blackberry can play without converting. Anyway good job to the Rockplayer...=)