Will it be smooth like the ipad, when ics comes? Ive tried the overcome rom and there is still a bit a jerkiness/lagginess when using the screen capture function, exiting in and out, flipping through pages etc.
No. Get an ipad if smooth scrolling homescreens are the most important feature on a tablet for you.
3.2 will give you that smoothness. i use adw launcher ex and it pretty much fixed any lag. also recommend using spareparts+ to speed up opening window.
doesnt hurt to oc either
if you're not going to contribute then you can just keep ur post to yourself slack04
Everything you're asking can only be answered with speculation and dreams dude. I'm on 3.2 and don't see any of the lag you speak of.
Yes, ICS will bring hardware acceleration to the entire experience, should be a transformation.
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Answering the op question what lag? Sure if you have a slow device running top of the range os you will get lag
But since 3.2 I haven't seen any lag
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I think lag can be caused by many issues. For one, widgets with heavy graphics and constant refreshes can use up a lot of resources. There are also poorly made apps running in the background that may slow things down. I would just keep the homescreen as simple as possible if performance is a concern.
If ICS runs as smooth as it does on the Galaxy Nexus, yes, it will.
We will see it as soon as the first "complete" ROMs pop up, everything else is complete speculation.
3.2 made the tab a lot better, but still not completely lagfree in my opionion. Its response time varies from perfect (browser) to mediocre (app switcher - at least until its open).
Are you running on stock rom? I am running Task650 & Phantoms "In Paris" V5 OC'd to 1.4Gz with ADW launcher and it is pretty darn smooth even on Honeycomb 3.1. It will only get better with the 3.2 update coming in the near future. Check it out if you haven't already done so!
hardware acceleration in ICS improve performence allot , see alpha builds on the single core original galaxy tab 7 and HTC hd2 on youtube and you will see the big improvement in speed even with live wallpapers
Though it is true that ICS will have hardware acceleration, android will always lag at some point, seeing as it is an OS capable of being installed on a wide range of devices, and it can not be fully optimized for 1 device to make it lag-free.
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Though it is true that ICS will have hardware acceleration, android will always lag at some point, seeing as it is an OS capable of being installed on a wide range of devices, and it can not be fully optimized for 1 device to make it lag-free.
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this is not 100% true , the kernel function is to make the hardware make use of the options in the software ,so that is why each device has its own kernel , thus with good kernel each device can benifit from the hardware acceleration on its way , so existance of (hardware acceleration ) with supported kernel should eliminate lag
Im using the overcome rom, isnt that the best if i want the smoothest experience possible?
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this is not 100% true , the kernel function is to make the hardware make use of the options in the software ,so that is why each device has its own kernel , thus with good kernel each device can benifit from the hardware acceleration on its way , so existance of (hardware acceleration ) with supported kernel should eliminate lag
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But many companies don't bother with a good kernel. They pretty much use "Does it boot? Get it out the door" as a mantra.
The reason iOS is so smooth is because Apple tests devices for months and months to make sure the user experience is great. They put user experience over anything else, even features. I still get terrible lag on 3.2 while using my GT8.9. But hopefully ICS will fix that. But I won't bet money that all the lag will be gone. There's just not much optimization there, and throwing more cores at the software isn't going to fix that.
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Everything you're asking can only be answered with speculation and dreams dude. I'm on 3.2 and don't see any of the lag you speak of.
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Same here, because of your ROM! OP, get on Task's ROM. And have a funeral for your tablet lag.
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Everything you're asking can only be answered with speculation and dreams dude. I'm on 3.2 and don't see any of the lag you speak of.
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^^What he said...
Running GalaxyTask6.3 rom oc'd to 1.4ghz using adw ex launcher with boosted ics theme and it is SMOOTH as any apple device on the planet!
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Im using the overcome rom, isnt that the best if i want the smoothest experience possible?
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Nope task650 v6.3 is the way to go
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3.2 was a nice upgrade in speed but after using ICS on my galaxy nexus I really can't wait for it to come to the tab 10.1 in one form or another.
The Galaxy Nexus does feel much smoother. Not sure if it's the hardware acceleration or just tighter code, but I'm eager to get ICS on my tab.
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i'm getting lag when flipping page's & application's as well .
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hey everyone. man been hearing so much about ICS.. dont know what to believe anymore.
"Hardware Acceleration Everywhere!!!"
but really what does this mean? we already have hardware acceleration in our browser, do we have it anywhere else? well as far as i know we dont. and just because ICS has this new (vague) hardware acceleration, where will we see it? and it doesnt mean our angry birds, or 3rd party browsers will suddenly improve (does it?).
"zero lag shutter" - does this apply only to stock rom, or will our samsung camera see this too?
while hardware acceleration sounds like something awesome i know nothing about.. another big point in battery life. what changes will ICS bring to battery life?
i know one of the features of ICS is face unlock, are there any other cool features like these that have gotten less coverage?
If using the GPU to do something is faster than using the CPU, then yes, probably, battery life will be better. Generally the quicker you do something (while using the same or lesser power), the better, since the SoC can deep sleep ASAP.
Yes, battery life can be improved, if it does in fact speed up the mobile even further, my device only runs out of 3% over 10 hours in standby, would like the battery to improve even when turned on though, would like to see more input on HW Acceleration though
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Yes, battery life can be improved, if it does in fact speed up the mobile even further, my device only runs out of 3% over 10 hours in standby, would like the battery to improve even when turned on though, would like to see more input on HW Acceleration though
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3% in 10 [email protected]#>$ i lose 20% in 10 hours.. teach me your ways...
with ICS we can finally have HW acceleration on AOSP roms too.
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with ICS we can finally have HW acceleration on AOSP roms too.
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what is an AOSP rom?
Guantanamo86 said:
what is an AOSP rom?
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Android Open Source Project. Basically, a clean, un-modified version of Android - straight from Google.
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If using the GPU to do something is faster than using the CPU, then yes, probably, battery life will be better. Generally the quicker you do something (while using the same or lesser power), the better, since the SoC can deep sleep ASAP.
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you should read this:
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
GB has hardware acceleration capabilities already - this is not new for ICS. The only difference is that in GB developers would have to specify to use it, whereas apps use it by default in ICS.
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you should read this:
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Thanks for the enlightenment. It's always nice when the developers enlighten noobs like me (no sarcasm intended!)
ive seen the camera app in stock ICS.. dang its pretty sick.. it seems to be more featured than ours, the contrast even goes from -3 ~ +3, unlike ours which is 2/2. but i wonder, are there parental controls placed on the stock camera app like the samsung? like parental controls on battery threshold, and when the camera can and cant be used, how it wont work during music being played, or during a call?
im thinking of going to cm9 if it means getting this camera. can anyone tell me about those features?
I have also wondered what all the hoopteedoo for ics is for. If someone could please convince me that it is the biggest update ever, that would be great. (I don't want to hear anything about the UI or how pretty something is, I really could care less)
With ICS the biggest edtion to our galaxy devices is true multi thread operating system. Gingerbread never supported dual core phones. With ice cream sandwich we will see the true performance of our phones.
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One more thing if you don't have multi threaded phone then there really is no difference.
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Isnt the zero shutter lag dependent on the hardware of the camera?? I.e. if the camera doesnt have the capability we wont get it?
Ricey
Yep, if the hw does not support it, will have minimal improvement.
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With ICS the biggest edtion to our galaxy devices is true multi thread operating system. Gingerbread never supported dual core phones. With ice cream sandwich we will see the true performance of our phones.
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sorry, but there's no increase for "smooth as butter"
gingerbread = smooth as butter
ics = smooth as butter
your second core is sleeping the most time because there's nothing to do. ;-)
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I'd guess for most on here, this will be the major benefit.
I *think* the browser is already HW accelerated as is the TWLauncher, so I'm guessing if you compared AOSP ICS with any TW ROM the performance will be fairly similar in most areas.
For me, I'm looking forward to trying an AOSP version of ICS, as for me, it is the first AOSP version of Android I've actually liked the look of, I've never really been a fan of older iterations. Gingerbread was an improvement but still not there yet; I actually prefer TW over AOSP gingerbread, but ICS definitely moves the game on.
The improved notifications and task switching is also something I'm looking forward.
However, I'm happy to wait, as my phone with CheckROM Revolution and Verts ICS Domination theme and the ICS keyboard from the market makes the phone pretty damn nice to use already IMHO.
From what i understand though, what do we need this hw for? Our browser already has it, and that seems to be the most intensive of tasks we can do aside from games. What a launcher? It's already smooth enough to me. What the opening speed for menus. Wait lemme check how much fps lagg I get from opening a menu, oh wait can't see. Please, anything else other than hw? I still don't see the importance of ICS. And please i am not bashing it or anything, but i genuinely want to feel excited for this update.
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From what i understand though, what do we need this hw for? Our browser already has it, and that seems to be the most intensive of tasks we can do aside from games. What a launcher? It's already smooth enough to me. What the opening speed for menus. Wait lemme check how much fps lagg I get from opening a menu, oh wait can't see. Please, anything else other than hw? I still don't see the importance of ICS. And please i am not bashing it or anything, but i genuinely want to feel excited for this update.
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Well if you don't see any point to it, then don't update your bloody phone.
Stop crying about something you feel is useless and just don't update. You don't have to, and no one will care if you don't. Stick with gingerbread and stop complaining.
Hello,
Just got my phone yesterday and this is my first android phone i am pretty sure my previous phone Windows phone was a lot lot better at most of the things and performance too!!
some times i see lag in scrolling menus,etc! on a Dual core it was hard to believe but anyways i hope it gets better with ICS soon.
So at the moment can anyone tell me where to get good apps (marketplace sucks to find apps)
and some ways to improve battery usage with keeping phone in push mode?
I would highly appericiate if anyone can give me a clue of good ICS custom ROM build there are so many builds and its highly confusing.
There's only one ICS thread for the Note, and it's on Development. About apps for performance and battery, i suggest applying either custom kernel (AbyssNote's or FM) and using SetCpu or Tegrak for overclock and undervolt. Custom launchers might help too, being Go Launcher and ADW two of the most famous. CPUSpy might help detecting any apps that are unlawfuly sucking juice or strange core behavior.
As a last Note, tough (pun intended) your dual core Android will never be as fluid as your 800mhz WP. That's the price we pay for the ability to customize absolutely everything.
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Amen to that. Viamonte is absolutely right, some of IPhone and window phone users have little idea what a good Android phone can do. Anyway welcome to Android, it's worth the switch.
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As a last Note said:
why not? Curios.
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why not? Curios.
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No idea, but it isn't. No matter how much you customize and alter your Android, you'll always find instances where it doesn't wake, or lag on scrolling, or screen changing, or whatever. After using a Titan, a N9 and a 4S for extended periods of time, I can easily say that's an Android problem, no matter how good the phone or the software is.
Except ICS, I haven't tried it yet...
Yes no android I've ever used was as fluid as an Iphone sadly.
I used a Desire and an HD on 2.0 and 2.1 and now have the Note on 2.3.
Android 4.0 is really stable, my kid plays games with my phone and he got gb almost everytime reboot twice a day, but ICS haven't even once rebooted in a month. And android 4.0 is really fluid, due to hw-acceleration, but still not 100% fluid i think, maybe because i have unofficially ics on i9000
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Update to the latest GB firmware (LA4?), it will resolve all your lag issues.
Android Lag Argument Nullified
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBTqYvJVHCA
I know, I know quad core, BUT people say ICS makes a world of difference on any device 4 cores or 1!!
Viamonte said:
There's only one ICS thread for the Note, and it's on Development. About apps for performance and battery, i suggest applying either custom kernel (AbyssNote's or FM) and using SetCpu or Tegrak for overclock and undervolt. Custom launchers might help too, being Go Launcher and ADW two of the most famous. CPUSpy might help detecting any apps that are unlawfuly sucking juice or strange core behavior.
As a last Note, tough (pun intended) your dual core Android will never be as fluid as your 800mhz WP. That's the price we pay for the ability to customize absolutely everything.
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Yes i saw that ICS thread but i was little set back to see it isnt stable yet and being stated as it wont get camera till official ICS rom so i am looking at a no camera rom for at least 2 months for sure so cant dive into ICS as of now.
Your reply helps a lot
Was thinking if i can directly go to install any custom rom although i found more than 9 ROMs on the first page and all looked so same but not being good with technical of android i was thinking if you can suggest me a good rom.
I dont care about the theme and visuals at all i need cutting edge performance and battery life thats the only thing needed/
Do let me know if you have any specific rom in mind.
I guess N7000 and your i9000 both are not the same so probably i cant install ICS in GNote (at least not the stable one right?)
swiping between homescreens with a decent amount of widget and you wil notice a bit of lag, also using the tab in portrait mode is also laggy(sad to see it still havent been fix). The ics roms are still in alpha i believe? Do you guys think it will be smoother when everything is final?
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swiping between homescreens with a decent amount of widget and you wil notice a bit of lag, also using the tab in portrait mode is also laggy(sad to see it still havent been fix). The ics roms are still in alpha i believe? Do you guys think it will be smoother when everything is final?
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i hate to say it but its most likely a hardware issue... the Tegra-II (2) is a very crappy processor (depending on who you talk to i guess) they [samsung/nvidia] didnt really think this through when they created this tablet... MHO...
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I don't use many widgets but I have absolutely no lag. So try reflashing. but even still once its finished it will be even faster.
and I think its technically in beta now.
the portrait mode in CM9 is still not there yet though. but I never use portrait mode so it doesn't bother me.
are you overclocking at all?
TBH I'm not sure why you felt that complaining deserved creating a new thread.
Mine is butter smooth in portrait or landscape... using ICS.
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i hate to say it but its most likely a hardware issue... the Tegra-II (2) is a very crappy processor (depending on who you talk to i guess) they [samsung/nvidia] didnt really think this through when they created this tablet... MHO...
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I don't know, you can use adw and there's one lag whatsoever.
maybe try closing any background apps that are running. They could take up RAM and slow down the tab
I have ICS with NO widgets and flashed 3x and still have some lag, not a lot but no butter smoothness as some of you claim.
And I refuse to use ADW because it makes it feel like an oversized phone, and this is a real Tablet
It's pretty smooth for me, even with a couple of widgets on the main screen.
You don't need to be worried about it, if anything look for the Xoom ICS videos. That is a finished update for a very similar hardware tablet. It's a lot better than the current incarnation of ICS to the Galaxy Tab.
Not to mention that ICS is still pretty alpha, if not just experimental.
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swiping between homescreens with a decent amount of widget and you wil notice a bit of lag, also using the tab in portrait mode is also laggy(sad to see it still havent been fix). The ics roms are still in alpha i believe? Do you guys think it will be smoother when everything is final?
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Hmm likely a reflash is needed. i have ADW using 3 screens with 9 widgets and 32 apps and no lag
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Never had lag on my tablet with any kang rom in either portrait or landscape.It's the smoothest I've ever seen.
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swiping between homescreens with a decent amount of widget and you wil notice a bit of lag, also using the tab in portrait mode is also laggy(sad to see it still havent been fix). The ics roms are still in alpha i believe? Do you guys think it will be smoother when everything is final?
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TBH this is as smooth as ics gets. android as a whole is not known for butterly dripping smooth, android is a full blown os for mobile phone / tablet with unspeakable power. the power to one day rival laptops not to rival butter for smoothness! if all you want is butter smooth transition moving from screen to screen, wait for a windows phone os tablet or get an ipad.
Tegra2 libs/drivers are outdated. Once source is released then I believe there will be a significant improvement. Head over to the cyanogen webpage, where cyanogen basically says what I stated above.
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Disable wallpaper scrolling. It definitely solves the lag problem on homescreen. Use trebuchet, apex etc. But only on landscape mod not on portrait. It's a Tegra 2 issue. Every device that comes with Tegra 2 have it.
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Disable wallpaper scrolling. It definitely solves the lag problem on homescreen. Use trebuchet, apex etc. But only on landscape mod not on portrait. It's a Tegra 2 issue. Every device that comes with Tegra 2 have it.
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But, even the galaxy tab 7.7 with it's 1.4ghz exynos cpu was very laggy on honeycomb when watching it on you tube, the smoothness difference between that and the galaxy tab 10.1 was very little. So it's more of a android tablet ui problem rather than a tegra problem, I believe. The tegra 2 isn't that bad; when overclocked to 1.2-1.4ghz to keep it up to date with other tabs.
I have never experienced much lag at all on my Tab.. Have tried both ICS versions and they both flat out fly! Task's ROM 14 Slim which is TW 3.2 based is screaming fast as well...
I think some people may have a poorly written app(s) running in the background that's zapping memory..
portrait lag is never going to be fixed unless a dev here fixes it for them.
the xoom has official ics and its still laggy in portrait and in other places....so counting on the devs here for something
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But, even the galaxy tab 7.7 with it's 1.4ghz exynos cpu was very laggy on honeycomb when watching it on you tube, the smoothness difference between that and the galaxy tab 10.1 was very little. So it's more of a android tablet ui problem rather than a tegra problem, I believe. The tegra 2 isn't that bad; when overclocked to 1.2-1.4ghz to keep it up to date with other tabs.
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The UI problem I'm talking about occurs only on portrait mode. It's buttery smooth on landscape but lags on portrait doesn't matter whatever you do. That's the Tegra 2 problem.
Some have pretty low standards for defining lag. Lag for me is anything below 30 frames per second. 60 is optimal, 30 is minimum.
With that said, my gtab gets really laggy when LWP is activated (which isn't the case for the SGS2) despite running on task rom + pershoot [email protected] 1.4ghz.
..and yes I'm running ADW launcher.
I hope that ICS will fix this but im not expecting too much given that Tegra 2 is a POS processor that could hardly run anything properly.
I have to say, I am not impressed with this thing. Right out of the box I noticed that it was MUCH laggier than my Galaxy Nexus.
I figured it was just the bloated Samsung skin that caused it so I instantly rooted it and installed CM9 4.0.4. However, that doesn't seem to have helped much.
I've found that even just typing an email in Gmail causes the onscreen keyboard to become extremely slow after typing the first paragraph, to the point where I have to close out of Gmail and re-open it in order to get it to respond correctly again.
Is there something I'm missing here? Shouldn't this thing be much snappier than my Galaxy Nexus? Is there another ROM I should be using?
The two Rom's I like right now on mine are either the Galaxy Task or Clean Rom.
You could also try AOKP, that seemed to do pretty well on mine too.
Tegra 2 (or Tegra in general) just blows. At least for a device this size.
Have you tried using different keyboards? If not, it might be an idea to download and experiment with some to find if any resolve the lag issue. Just an idea.
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I have to say, I am not impressed with this thing. Right out of the box I noticed that it was MUCH laggier than my Galaxy Nexus.
I figured it was just the bloated Samsung skin that caused it so I instantly rooted it and installed CM9 4.0.4. However, that doesn't seem to have helped much.
I've found that even just typing an email in Gmail causes the onscreen keyboard to become extremely slow after typing the first paragraph, to the point where I have to close out of Gmail and re-open it in order to get it to respond correctly again.
Is there something I'm missing here? Shouldn't this thing be much snappier than my Galaxy Nexus? Is there another ROM I should be using?
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While tegra 2 isn't great, it shouldn't have problems with ICS. Even on a mostly stock honeycomb build, my tab is running pretty smoothly without overclocking. Except for the rare scrolling hiccup. Most likely the build isn't optimized well enough, and CM9 nightlies are still alpha builds at best. I would suggest either flashing a more stable debloated honeycomb build or waiting for at least an RC version of CM9.
I feel the same way, it's so slow its going backwards. I have almost stopped using it all together because it's a pain to use xd
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I have ICS AOKP installed on my GT-p7510 and I gotta say, it's pretty fast. Except from not having a working camera driver, there's nothing to complain about.
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I have to say, I am not impressed with this thing. Right out of the box I noticed that it was MUCH laggier than my Galaxy Nexus.
I figured it was just the bloated Samsung skin that caused it so I instantly rooted it and installed CM9 4.0.4. However, that doesn't seem to have helped much.
I've found that even just typing an email in Gmail causes the onscreen keyboard to become extremely slow after typing the first paragraph, to the point where I have to close out of Gmail and re-open it in order to get it to respond correctly again.
Is there something I'm missing here? Shouldn't this thing be much snappier than my Galaxy Nexus? Is there another ROM I should be using?
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Why would you ever think this tablet would be snappier than the Gnex? The Gnex is newer and has a newer and faster processor, with newer, more optimized software.
I don't get why you would think a tablet produced in May/June of last year would be somehow snappier than a device produced in October/November.
While I haven't found the tablet to have the same problems you described, I have to say I'm not very impressed with the Tab's performance. But we shouldn't be so quick to judge ICS; the drivers are community written so I wasn't expecting a lot out of them. ICS ROMs are smooth but there's always some sort of thing that pisses me off, or something that sparks a lagfest. Honeycomb ROMs seem to be a lot smoother. But I seem to notice a slice of laglaglag when the tablet is in portrait. Not that I use it in portrait, but still.
Games were a lagfest in both ICS and Honeycomb, the graphics looked pretty good but what use was it when the games are running at 10FPS? The only thing I can really say I like about this tablet is everything it's not supposed to do; run Ubuntu, both inside Android, and a native install of Ubuntu with Android removed. I like playing PS1 games on it too, something that crappy iPad couldn't do.
Another thing; tablet apps. Developers seem to ignore tablet users. Most apps I've used made me feel like my tablet was a big ass phone, and I've seen this complaint a lot.
But I gotta say I really regret not waiting. I wanted to go for the Transformer Prime but didn't want to wait. I regret letting my lack of patience get the best of me.
I hope you actually flashed a rom after flashing CWM or else there's obviously going to be no difference. I somehow have never experienced issues on my end. Everything is fast for me, with either a stock rooted/unrooted rom or a custom rom. And if you couldnt see a difference between Honeycomb and ICS on your tablet, then something must be wrong. Even with the small glitches and bugs, it's very fast. Maybe you should overclock as well.
same here- galaxy task10 is very smooth - couple it with ADW and it is very very snappy - ICS gives me a little bit more snap - so not sure what standards the OP is referencing since i also have Gnex and it does not feel any faster than my current tab
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I hope you actually flashed a rom after flashing CWM or else there's obviously going to be no difference. I somehow have never experienced issues on my end. Everything is fast for me, with either a stock rooted/unrooted rom or a custom rom. And if you couldnt see a difference between Honeycomb and ICS on your tablet, then something must be wrong. Even with the small glitches and bugs, it's very fast. Maybe you should overclock as well.
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Agreed with the previous 2 posters. I have used cyanogen, and am currently using task 14. While I too am wishing I had waited and bought the transformer (for other reasons), I am very happy with the responsiveness of my tab. Task 14 is, for me, a very smooth take on honeycomb. Add in some of boosted's themes for that ICS look, and I am quite content.
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I have to admit that I am upset with the smoothness of ics. Whilst it is smoother than honeycomb, it still has a long way to go before I would call it smooth. But, I am not making judgements on ics until Sammy release their official version, and hopefully that will be smoother as it isn't all the honeycomb kernel source code patched and hack to make ics work. Also, does anyone else notice that on cm9 games feel like they have a lower frame rate than honeycomb, I was comparing games like mine craft on cm9 compared to my friends stock gtab10.1 and his stock 3.2 had a much higher frame rate, does anyone worse find this the case please?
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I have to admit that I am upset with the smoothness of ics. Whilst it is smoother than honeycomb, it still has a long way to go before I would call it smooth. But, I am not making judgements on ics until Sammy release their official version, and hopefully that will be smoother as it isn't all the honeycomb kernel source code patched and hack to make ics work. Also, does anyone else notice that on cm9 games feel like they have a lower frame rate than honeycomb, I was comparing games like mine craft on cm9 compared to my friends stock gtab10.1 and his stock 3.2 had a much higher frame rate, does anyone worse find this the case please?
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U still have to bare in mind ics on our tablet is still alpha....
So I think comparing a alpha build with a yr old os is silly really :L!
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If I'm sick of lags I just overclock to 1400 and change the governor to performance.
Unfortunately I usually end up slowing that down when my battery drains in approximately 15 seconds...
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If I'm sick of lags I just overclock to 1400 and change the governor to performance.
Unfortunately I usually end up slowing that down when my battery drains in approximately 15 seconds...
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Galaxy task 14 + ADW + 1400 OC = smooth...
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I also notice the Galaxy tab 10.1 is laggy.
I own an Asus transformer prime and the missus owns the galaxy tab, and its true that out of the box the asus is much much faster, mostly on the home screens. I had attributed this as a difference between HC 3.2 and ICS, we shall see.
However,
I cant mention enough just how vastly superior the wifi is on the galaxy tab. The difference is night and day. Oh it works on the asus alright (I have the latest serial version), but it seems to be very patchy. After an hour of using the browser on my TF prime and then picking up the galaxy tab the connection feels so much more solid and responsive and using the tab comes as something of a relief.
Thing is, it doesnt really matter what the specs are on paper, all I really care about is responsiveness of a good looking UI and good wifi. I feel that the tf prime is going to need a hard mod to sort out the wifi, which i will not do. On the other hand, I feel that a software update on the tab could sort out some of its lag issues, which would make the tab more useful in my household for our needs.
ShockPuppet said:
I also notice the Galaxy tab 10.1 is laggy.
I own an Asus transformer prime and the missus owns the galaxy tab, and its true that out of the box the asus is much much faster, mostly on the home screens. I had attributed this as a difference between HC 3.2 and ICS, we shall see.
However,
I cant mention enough just how vastly superior the wifi is on the galaxy tab. The difference is night and day. Oh it works on the asus alright (I have the latest serial version), but it seems to be very patchy. After an hour of using the browser on my TF prime and then picking up the galaxy tab the connection feels so much more solid and responsive and using the tab comes as something of a relief.
Thing is, it doesnt really matter what the specs are on paper, all I really care about is responsiveness of a good looking UI and good wifi. I feel that the tf prime is going to need a hard mod to sort out the wifi, which i will not do. On the other hand, I feel that a software update on the tab could sort out some of its lag issues, which would make the tab more useful in my household for our needs.
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Well a combination of ICS and a quad-core processor will blow away the Galaxy Tab without question.
stock = sucks
stock + swype keyboard = sucks ^2
In my case I flashed Gtask rom or overcome with pershoot kernel and keep avoiding swype.. and everything runs like silk now.
i'm not experiencing ANY lag what so ever after i flashed this rom:
[ROM] [ICS] Android Open Kang Project - p4/wifi/vzw - milestone 4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459287
I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?
Nope I can see the difference its faster & smoother than ICS open app draw opens fast in ICS it took a little longer jellybean is the best OS update from Google so far 2 big thumbs up & I'm getting the same or a little better battery life than I was on ICS
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I can definitely see a huge difference it terms of smoothness. You should probably delete some apps you don't need or do a factory wipe.
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I mirror your experience, however am still hopeful that when Sprint releases the actual files, things will be better. I haven't experienced JB on any of the newer devices, but the reports are good. Life is all about expectations ... guess we should be thankful that we're even receiving the updates.
Killasmoke said:
Nope I can see the difference its faster & smoother than ICS open app draw opens fast in ICS it took a little longer jellybean is the best OS update from Google so far 2 big thumbs up & I'm getting the same or a little better battery life than I was on ICS
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FYI---it is VERY hard to understand you without any punctuation.
You still should keep in mind that we're on a 2 year old device... yeah yeah the original Nexus S came out in Dec 2010... not quite 2 years, but it's based off of tech that debuted in the original Galaxy S in the summer of that year. It's great hardware, but it's expected that we'll have a tough time dealing with newer OS' ... quite frankly I've considered going back to a stripped down CM7 just because of the smoothness compared to ICS (and JB) ... we're just running into serious RAM limitations on this device.
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I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?
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Try different kernels as well with the rom.
I definitely see a difference,
I have no more lag at all with what i used to before.
I think, the UI can be a bit smoother, but multitasking and opening/closing apps works smoooooth!
Much faster and smoother than ICS.
Running Jelly Belly 1.5.1
Don't expect 2 much from old device like nexus s.
Google is getting sued for project butter being "too smooth" by apple because apple claimed smoothness was patented.
Kidding,
But, I could see it happening.
JB is 3 steps ahead of any other OS :x
I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.
I just don't like the fact that it keeps the phone awake over night. You ask me jellybean trying to do too much in the background. Last night I turned off 3g. When I woke up someone sent me a mms at 12am. When I check the battery stats it kept my phone awake trying to download a mms without data on. Not to smart
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lekhwani said:
I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.
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Dialer slow, opening Apps in Settings freaking slow, chrome slow...
JB gave new life to my NS, definitely the smoothest it has ever been, and I don't feel the need to OC. As I do with all phones/roms, all transitions and animations are turned off, including the third one added with JB. Also using Nova launcher, but am going to try Apex again now that they updated it with JB base.
And the biggest thing I noticed is how quickly the recents come up now, it's instant. I honestly didn't think that would be possible on the NS.
Piaband said:
I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?
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Pick up the Galaxy Nexus and you'll see the difference much clearer. NS is just plain old.
Why don't you try setting animations to 0.5?
Nexus S (GMS i9020a)
Paranoid (1.6 - 4.0.4)
Matrix Kernel (CFS - 20.0)
Ondemmand (800/100)
Deep Idle (On - Deadline)
Live OC - 100 (400/800)
BLX - 98 (Inverted Apps)
People don't like change, I remember seeing threads bashing ICS when it came out. Its new and the devs here have done made great progress in the short time since its release.
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smoka206 said:
People don't like change, I remember seeing threads bashing ICS when it came out. Its new and the devs here have done made great progress in the short time since its release.
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I'm not bashing at all, love jelly bean.
Just mentioned where is slow.
Piaband said:
FYI---it is VERY hard to understand you without any punctuation.
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I didn't know I was in school & you where an English teacher. I think you need an eye exam if you can't see or feel that jellybean is faster than ICS.
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lekhwani said:
I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.
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Chrome is a ram hog. Add in all the other processes eating ram, and you'll see why it's laggy.
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