It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
First, wrong section; you should know better by now.
Second, just because Acer have made it a bugger to root, doesn't mean the tablet is dead. It's absolutely useable without being rooted, and 99% of consumers don't actually give a monkeys about rooting, or even know what it actually is.
Hell, we get plenty of people on here asking what it is or what it's for...
New iconia is scheduled for Dec release but may get pushed back to january.
Interesting, you are posing that on XDA. We dont believe in Impossible to Root device. That is why people come to XDA; How to break what seem unbreakable or unlock what seem unlock-able. Just give some time, some genius will always find a way to kick some Corporate teeth in.
well wasnt it acer excuse not unlock the bootloader since honeycomb was not open source. I think that was one of their statements, so once we get updated to ICS maybe we all can start with a tweet assault on them again.
Not sure about u guys but I feel more comfortable recommending the xoom or asus tab just cause they are so open, same goes for those nook colors.
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It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
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You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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LOL - that was exactly was I was thinking after reading the first post. I have got a Desire and rooted it with goldcard etc. - long before the newer and way easier methods were developed.
Yesterday I got my Iconia 501 with Stock HC 3.2 on it and rooting it was a real breeze
Seriously? Near impossible to root? This guy must be slow, because this was just insanely easy... been rooted for months and tried nearly every rom at least once, all easy as pie.
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LOL - that was exactly was I was thinking after reading the first post. I have got a Desire and rooted it with goldcard etc. - long before the newer and way easier methods were developed.
Yesterday I got my Iconia 501 with Stock HC 3.2 on it and rooting it was a real breeze
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Same thing with the original mytouch. I had to use a gold card and there were no less than 3 times during the process that i thought i had bricked it. i may be permanently scarred.
There have been many times i have rooted other devices including the iconia that i went searching for more steps because it was too easy.
ya i have the Desire S too and waited for ages for it to be rooted, the Iconia only took me a few minutes, don't really see what the difficulty is, thought this was an old thread haha
ne too lol i was like...all i did was install an app, go to recovery, and flash rom ( give or take a few steps) and i did that the day i got it (sept 2011) and it took a few a mins, this thread confused the heck outta me lol
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ya i have the Desire S too and waited for ages for it to be rooted, the Iconia only took me a few minutes, don't really see what the difficulty is, thought this was an old thread haha
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You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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Hello there... one day I found my camera lense cracked and I sent it in for repair. upon return it had 3.2 on it (my icona a500) since then I have not found a way to root 3.2. I have looked on the threads and until your comment I havent found a way to root 3.2. Would you be so kind as to pm me or post the thread link here please? Its laggy as hell on stock and I want to root and get rid of the bloat ware. Thanks!!
lanisan said:
Hello there... one day I found my camera lense cracked and I sent it in for repair. upon return it had 3.2 on it (my icona a500) since then I have not found a way to root 3.2. I have looked on the threads and until your comment I havent found a way to root 3.2. Would you be so kind as to pm me or post the thread link here please? Its laggy as hell on stock and I want to root and get rid of the bloat ware. Thanks!!
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A member since 2007 and you cannot find a way to root your acer, you either don't read at all or don't understand what you are reading.. any one that really need to root their acer already did so including myself....
When is there going to be something flashable in this thread
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When is there going to be something flashable in this thread
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When you learn to find it and come and post it here? It's pretty well documented, and other than the crap threads that get posted in here like this one, pretty well organized.
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A member since 2007 and you cannot find a way to root your acer, you either don't read at all or don't understand what you are reading.. any one that really need to root their acer already did so including myself....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1136 right here it is 3hreadsown from this one. Giggles even a blonde can find it
This is inbwrong thread sorry for my post all
I rooted my tablet right after I got it in May. Then when the 3.2 update came out, I went back to stock unrooted and ran that way until this morning when I realized I wanted to change my navigation buttons. Downgraded, rooted, installed CWM and flashed the rooted stock 3.2 and was back in business in like 20 minutes maybe. Would've been done quicker, but I had to pause to make some more coffee. Didn't even lose any of my data or apps. I don't know how you measure easy, but by my measure, its a cake walk. A cake walk where you actually win cake, instead of awkwardly shuffling around in a circle with strangers thinking that if you win it might all be worth it, only to have some snot nosed little turd walk away with the very cake you wanted, and you go home and weep gently into your pillow because you never win, and no one ever seems to see that all you want is to be loved, oh God, why can't someone just love you...sorry I digress.
lol i rooted mine like the first 15 minutes that it was out of the box. I don't like not overclocking
Vintage144 said:
It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
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And this thread belongs in the DEV area.
Mods must be on Thanksgiving break already
Back to the OT! Did Acer Kill the Iconia?
Here it is.... Plain and simple.... Acer is killing the the Iconia since they are taking their time to produce good accessories for it. Also, what were they thinking in giving the power adapter such a short cord?
Other than that.... I love my A500, and would not mind upgrading to a the Tegra3 version.
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For those holding out on root & awaiting "Official 2.2 OTA", DON'T!! -> read w/in ->>
When I got my Evo, I wanted to wait for the official Sprint ROM/OTA upgrades because I wanted to keep my phone stock. I didn't want root to affect my phone's ability to OTA upgrade and get the latest and greatest from Sprint.
After many advice from others, I decided to root. This is where you will see the repeating theme - "I rooted and loaded a ROM and have never looked back", or "I rooted and upgraded the ROM from the dev section and have never been happier". I certainly agree.
The fact is, when (now IF) the official 2.2 comes out, you will get the EXACT OTA content here just as quickly (probably faster) and be able to flash to that if you wish. Most likely, at that time, you will want an enhanced version such as deodexed. It is not worth holding out on root just because you want the OTA.
With root, you are opening new options such as forcing the phone to roam only, make real/full backups, modify your phone both visually and functionally, and so much more. After root, battery life can certainly be improved by tweaking your phone (remove bloatware, keep unwanted services from starting, etc.)
When I got my Epic, I rooted immediately. I have been running DK28 since it dropped and enjoying what 2.2 has to offer. If/when the official comes out, I will upgrade. There is simply no risk of missing out.
So for you who are on the line, I encourge you to root and move forward. You will have a new world of options and enjoy your phone so much more.
Cheers.
It's true, and we're not that far from seeing a true Gingerbread port too.
Not to mention, with Odin, this phone is extremely hard to FUBAR and very easy to revert back to stock if needed. One click root makes the rooting process brainless...
I was in the same boat a few months ago. I viewed "rooting" as a hack or purposely "damaging" the phone. Eventually, I caved in; everything is hindsight from that point. Now, I will NEVER use a stock ROM again. Having access to the system allows me to take control of the device that I OWN; not Sprint or Samsung. If I don't want and application on the phone, I simply remove it. If I want to change the appearance, I install a theme.
Honestly, if you own an Epic, there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't root the phone. Heck, I'm not even using 2.2 for the lack of a stable GPS lock...
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Not to mention, with Odin, this phone is extremely hard to FUBAR and very easy to revert back to stock if needed. One click root makes the rooting process brainless...
I was in the same boat a few months ago. I viewed "rooting" as a hack or purposely "damaging" the phone. Eventually, I caved in; everything is hindsight from that point. Now, I will NEVER use a stock ROM again. Having access to the system allows me to take control of the device that I OWN; not Sprint or Samsung. If I don't want and application on the phone, I simply remove it. If I want to change the appearance, I install a theme.
Honestly, if you own an Epic, there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't root the phone. Heck, I'm not even using 2.2 for the lack of a stable GPS lock...
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I agree with most of this. But from my point of view, I don't even use it for the control, I use it cause it works better. Oh, and the themes. I just hope the devs and themers stick around a while, cause I have this phone for another 20 months :/
new devs and themers will come along. the cdma touch pro 2 is approching 18 months in age and when i stop by that forum, its just as busy as ever, and i dont even recognize the names of roms people are talking about, because the chefs that were cooking when i was rocking that have moved along, but new ones are stepping up in their place.
Installed TrulyEpic 1.2 last night in just a few minutes. No problems at all. GPS is fantastic (I thought it was working before, but now - ) Is it just me, or does the stock ROM limit the display brightness? I think it actually LOOKS better but YMMV.
It's comforting to know that I now have a phone that will probably never be truly obsolete for the next couple years as long as there are ROM builders out there.
but i tried to root using the one click and recovery and had issues it would tell me permission denied at the end after it reboooted, i used z4 to root and it worked fine, tried to use it again and still same thing, then installed rom manager and then try clockwork, nogo. so i took it all off and will jsut deal with it when it comes ota
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Not to mention, with Odin, this phone is extremely hard to FUBAR and very easy to revert back to stock if needed. One click root makes the rooting process brainless...
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I'd agree with you, except that I've had all kinds of issues rooting my Epic, ranging from USB drivers that fail to install, various one click root scripts that error out, a cruddy usb cable from Samsung, and an inability to get Odin to even look at my phone crosseyed.
I'm not brainless ... but nothing about rooting and flashing my phone has been straightforward. After wasting hours wading through (volunteer-written, open source, karmically-blessed) inconsistent instructions, I've lost patience. I just want an official, OTA copy of Froyo that isn't going to brick my phone or waste my time.
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but i tried to root using the one click and recovery and had issues it would tell me permission denied at the end after it reboooted, i used z4 to root and it worked fine, tried to use it again and still same thing, then installed rom manager and then try clockwork, nogo. so i took it all off and will jsut deal with it when it comes ota
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I've never had this problem. There must be something wrong and it isn't the one click. Could be your USB cable. Make sure your phone is in debugging mode. The OP is 100% right. Why use any stock ROM? If we do ever get the OTA, our devs will make it better and in about 100 different flavors.
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I have been holding out but even my patience is tested...
It was tested even more today trying to find a way to root without a PC (as I don't own a PC... well I have one that runs Win2K and no internet at home... yeah.) I did download z4root but it never got past the first screen...it literally loaded for an 1hr the 1st time and 35mins the second before I got ticked and just uninstalled. I may be new to the android scene (long time winmob user that fled after testing a wp7 craptastic phone) but something just isn't right here X/ I mean really.... I simply want flash (outside of skyfire) and to wirelessly tether without having to pay ANOTHER $30 a month.... ...
So yeah, /rant
Ota can come ANY DAY NOW *looks angrily at the sky*
Epic is as Epic does
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I've never had this problem. There must be something wrong and it isn't the one click. Could be your USB cable. Make sure your phone is in debugging mode. The OP is 100% right. Why use any stock ROM? If we do ever get the OTA, our devs will make it better and in about 100 different flavors.
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yea it was set to debug , its the original cable that came with it. i have not tried it on a diff pc, it could be a vista issue
Good point. But unless Samsung or sprint announce the update is out. Somebody has to be stock just incase they quietly release the update.
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yep. Im staying on stock for the simple fact that my phone aint broke why try and fix it lol.
I recently flashed DK28, then converted to ext4 and the bonsai mod. Froyo means I can view more webpages and download the froyo apps from the market place. ADW lancher was slow on 2.2, but lancher pro works fine. Also I wasn't getting great battery life but it's back to normal after I set my screen brightness to automatic. Overall I'm happy with my decision.
I too was one that didn't want to root and I was paying for the sprint hotspot :-\ but once I got the first bill for $130 I quickly youtube how to videos on rooting the epic and never looked back. 2.2 runs great with my only bug being, on some calls out I couldn't hear the other person unless I put it speaker phone. I worked my way around this bug by just hitting the speaker button before every call then quickly hit it again to shut off the speaker. It takes very little effort and I'm happier than ever with my epic and I don't give a rats ass about the OTA 2.2
The reason i first rooted was for wireless tether and to get rid of all the bloatware. After that i found all these awesome root apps like ADFREE and ShootME titatanium back up and many others and i can now not live with out adfree its the best app ever!!
After trying wireless tether it was ok then mobile ap came along and i love it. And for this reason alone im staying stock and honestly this is the first phone that does everything i need and doesnt give me any issues even on stock rom. I did get a custom kernal i flashed a good amount of the 2.1 roms and didnt really care for any of them besides noobnls rom. i mean i like custom roms that are blank of extra bloatware and what not.
But yes i agree dont wait to root, you get so many added benefits to make your phone run fast and get many free apps that are ad supported but because of ad free they are like the real one.
Best decision to root.
And for any reason i need to go back to stock to take the phone in i have all the stock flashables on my sd card so i just flash them and its easy as pie.
One click root never gave me any issues with the samsung cord or with any other cords i have.
I agree, I just got tired of it and rooted and installed a custom ROM (Trulyepic 1.2). It's definitely nice. It's also nice to feel free from the shenanigans of corporations trying to do as little as possible to make money off you while maintaining PR.
I admit, it's a bit scary to do with your phone. I'm lucky in that I've gotten familiar with rooting with my Viewsonic Gtablet, but I have to admit that I was pretty nervous the first time.
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I'd agree with you, except that I've had all kinds of issues rooting my Epic, ranging from USB drivers that fail to install, various one click root scripts that error out, a cruddy usb cable from Samsung, and an inability to get Odin to even look at my phone crosseyed.
I'm not brainless ... but nothing about rooting and flashing my phone has been straightforward. After wasting hours wading through (volunteer-written, open source, karmically-blessed) inconsistent instructions, I've lost patience. I just want an official, OTA copy of Froyo that isn't going to brick my phone or waste my time.
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Hey dude, i haven't rooted my phone and I have the 2.2. rom on my computer... it was super easy to install. If you want the update without having to root, just pm me if you want it, and ill upload it and send u a link. with instructions.
I did the update and my GPS was fubar. I had to flash back to stock and now I'm scared to flash back to 2.2 for fear of losing GPS again. How is your GPS because I really liked froyo but don't want to jeopardize my GPS.
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I did the update and my GPS was fubar. I had to flash back to stock and now I'm scared to flash back to 2.2 for fear of losing GPS again. How is your GPS because I really liked froyo but don't want to jeopardize my GPS.
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My GPS was actually fixed by going to FroYo...but I had some miscellaneous issues, so I flashed back to DI18 and am on SyndicateROM with the Xtreme Kernel. I have to get rid of setCPU soon...1.2 GHz overclock is killing my battery
Hey guys I'm just wondering if there is a real benefit to rooting at this point. I'm really pro rooting your devices but I want to see a real benefit to it too.
Am I missing something but as of now I cant really find a real motive to Root my xoom considering also that I will have to do a factory reset and revert to unrooted unlock stock for the LTE upgrade.
Can anyone that has rooted his Xoom give me their feedback on their experience and benefits they found by rooting?
And yes, I know the 1.5 GHz overclock but is that enough?...
Thanks.
Of course, you can play Donkey Kong on it
yankele said:
Hey guys I'm just wondering if there is a real benefit to rooting at this point. I'm really pro rooting your devices but I want to see a real benefit to it too.
Am I missing something but as of now I cant really find a real motive to Root my xoom considering also that I will have to do a factory reset and revert to unrooted unlock stock for the LTE upgrade.
Can anyone that has rooted his Xoom give me their feedback on their experience and benefits they found by rooting?
And yes, I know the 1.5 GHz overclock but is that enough?...
Thanks.
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Motorola has said you do NOT need to unroot your device if you want the 4G upgrade. They said they will still install the modem and try to install the software needed. If the software doesn't work, they will still ship it back to you, but now you have to figure out how get the software to work.
In all likelihood, if you're just rooting so you can install some basic apps. You won't have an issue, but if for some reason you're flashing to different roms, then yes you would have to take a little time to either revert back to stock, or get it back and figure out how to install the modem software yourself.
if your asking this question then must not have done enough research or you shouldnt even bother attempting to root
I have done a lot of research and every day go to xoom android development to keep up to date with whats happening but I wanted to ask people who rooted already what are their experience with it.
As of now there is no custom ROM but there is a kernel and a few boot screens but and the overcloking but I from the outside IDK what are people experiencing on a rooted xoom that makes a lot of difference from my non rooted one.
And I may not have a lot of posts in the forums but even tho I'm no expert I'm not a complete stranger to rooting.
If you are so talented in rooting, you should already be aware of the benefits. If what you see in the development section isn't enough to satisfy you then simply don't do it.
Rooting opens doors to custom system-level themes, custom ROMs, root required apps, custom kernels, and so forth. Obviously you know this much and half of it isn't available on the Xoom at the time. It may just not be worth it.
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If you are so talented in rooting, you should already be aware of the benefits. If what you see in the development section isn't enough to satisfy you then simply don't do it.
Rooting opens doors to custom system-level themes, custom ROMs, root required apps, custom kernels, and so forth. Obviously you know this much and half of it isn't available on the Xoom at the time. It may just not be worth it.
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^^^ Exactly what i was trying to imply well put ^^^
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If you are so talented in rooting, you should already be aware of the benefits. If what you see in the development section isn't enough to satisfy you then simply don't do it.
Rooting opens doors to custom system-level themes, custom ROMs, root required apps, custom kernels, and so forth. Obviously you know this much and half of it isn't available on the Xoom at the time. It may just not be worth it.
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He didn't say that he was a pro "at" rooting devices, rather he was pro rooting devices (ie. He's generally in support of the idea).
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I'm no rooting expert, or anything close to that title.
Thanks for your response, and yes, I agree with you about the fact that many of the features that we enjoyed in our phones being rooted are still not working for HC.
That's why I was asking if there is anything that I will like and that I'm missing at this point being that I enjoy other devs work but I'm not able to develop on my own.
Anyways I think maybe rooting may not be for me at this point, but I'm really looking forward for something worth rooting my $800 toy!
Thanks
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He didn't say that he was a pro "at" rooting devices, rather he was pro rooting devices (ie. He's generally in support of the idea).
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That is correct, I missed that part in my previous response.
Thank you!
I finally rooted my evo to freely tether my xoom! But no, I havent seen a compelling reason to root the xoom yet, with so many expected critical software updates coming in the future (4g, flash, sd card) I'll personally wait a bit until at least the sd card update is pushed (fingers crossed)
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But no, I havent seen a compelling reason to root the xoom yet, with so many expected critical software updates coming in the future (4g, flash, sd card) I'll personally wait a bit until at least the sd card update is pushed (fingers crossed)
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This is my exact feelings. I'm waiting for the Xoom to become the device it's supposed to be before I get too into tinkering with it. Eventually I will go the rooting route, but not quite yet.
That is what I needed to hear, from normal people like me that had rooted already.
I guess if would have a data plan with vzw it would make more sense to root now but since I don't, and there is not a custom rom and I'll have to revert to stock if I want the software update when I send my xoom for the LTE upgrade, I'm not gonna be rooting yet all tho I'm dying to root, or maybe I'll root just for the fun of it because anyways I flash a new rom almost every week or twice a week so the reverting to stock may not be any harder to do.
I'll see....
Thanks for your feedback guys!
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hi_its_ryan said:
I finally rooted my evo to freely tether my xoom! But no, I havent seen a compelling reason to root the xoom yet, with so many expected critical software updates coming in the future (4g, flash, sd card) I'll personally wait a bit until at least the sd card update is pushed (fingers crossed)
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You're still able to get those updates even while being rooted. You won't however, once you choose to install a custom rom on it... made possible by rooting.
Can someone just help the Guy/Girl?
come on now. It seems like everyother thread has someone saying "If you know so much blah blah" We all know he doesn't know, which is the point of his thread. To Learn.
You don't need to come in here and try to insult him/her and tell em that if they don't know they don't need to bother rooting, etc.
If you have rooted, What have you done with your device that would make a knowledgeable end user want to root? Thats all he wants to know.
I wish I could help, but this Xoom is my first android device.
I am looking forward to rooting for my first time, and playing with everything, but personally I am just going to wait till after the LTE upgrade just to save myself a headache.
Maybe someone could help me with this question. Since after rooting/flashing ROMs might cause Moto's software for the 4g Radio to work improperly, does that mean if I wait till after the LTE upgrade, rooting/flashing might cause the Radio to not work?
Or is it somehow, once the software is on there, changing the ROMs and Permissions won't affect the Radio?
yankele said:
That is what I needed to hear, from normal people like me that had rooted already.
I guess if would have a data plan with vzw it would make more sense to root now but since I don't, and there is not a custom rom and I'll have to revert to stock if I want the software update when I send my xoom for the LTE upgrade, I'm not gonna be rooting yet all tho I'm dying to root, or maybe I'll root just for the fun of it because anyways I flash a new rom almost every week or twice a week so the reverting to stock may not be any harder to do.
I'll see....
Thanks for your feedback guys!
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Did you not read the third post of this thread? It doesn't matter if you root the device or not, You'll get the 4G update. However if you're running a custom rom, they might not be able to install the software for the modem, in which case, you need to do it yourself. If you keep the stock rom and stay rooted, I doubt you would have any problems.
The third post in no way answers his question. Nor do the posts to "research." Don't be a ****, either answer the question or ignore it. The question is a reasonable one and posted in general.
In my opinion right now there is not a need to root right now unless:
-you want to deploy a custom Tom
-you want to overclock
-you want to customize the default rom. .. I.e. remove default applications such as the games, replace system files for turning purposes, etc...
-you want to run an application that requires root.
Until you have a desire or need that requires root there is no need to root the device. If you do root though Motorola seems (as stated in post 3) willing to upgrade the device at a minimum. So fear of ineligibility for the upgrade should not be a deterrent to upgrading.
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JayBeezy802 said:
Did you not read the third post of this thread? It doesn't matter if you root the device or not, You'll get the 4G update. However if you're running a custom rom, they might not be able to install the software for the modem, in which case, you need to do it yourself. If you keep the stock rom and stay rooted, I doubt you would have any problems.
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I did read it but if you read my post I'm acknowledging that my device will get the LTE upgrade no matter what, but I don't want to take the risk to not be able to get the software upgrade just because they see my xoom is unlocked and rooted.
If you read the Motorola moderator in that forum he says more or less that if you are rooted pretty much don't get the software... and you know they could use any kind of excuses to not do it.
But still I might root just for the fun of it and going back to stock just to ne safe and not have to look for the freacking thing myself.
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Hey guys I'm just wondering if there is a real benefit to rooting at this point. I'm really pro rooting your devices but I want to see a real benefit to it too.
Am I missing something but as of now I cant really find a real motive to Root my xoom considering also that I will have to do a factory reset and revert to unrooted unlock stock for the LTE upgrade.
Can anyone that has rooted his Xoom give me their feedback on their experience and benefits they found by rooting?
And yes, I know the 1.5 GHz overclock but is that enough?...
Thanks.
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My main motive is nothing more than having the capability of defying the machine/syztem
I rooted and OC'd with both BidDogs and Koush's kernels.
I had reboot issues with both (not complaining here). Had it OC'd for about 4 days, tried BD update this morning and still did the reboot thing (sometimes several times an hour). MOST peoples OC seems to be wokring well.
Other then that, while rooted I didn't really do much other then poke around as su in the file system.
This morning i flashed back using the SFB file. I will try to root it again and OC if my xoom remains solid for the next day...maybe i did one of the steps wrong somewhere.
So to finally answer your question, I had a awsome time rooting/OC'ing and learned quite a bit doing so!
Do you think the Iconia is dead for hacking?
hope not..
otherwise i will buy other honeycomb tab that have usb port
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Do you think the Iconia is dead for hacking?
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I'm hoping Acer stops being douches and unlocks the bootloader, but who knows. It's depressing to look in the Transformer subforums and see "kernel 1.5GHz custom XYZ ROM" and we're lucky to have NTFS modules working.
It's a solid device and I'll likely keep it, but I also have the luxury of being able to buy another tablet in a couple of months if all goes well, so that can be my hack-away tab. By then 3.1 should be more widespread and Kal-El will be out soon, so I may wait for that even.
If.you.go under android development tab the system images post i think. The guybsays his acer contact is.looking at the bootloader policy and they will see what they can do to help out the dev community needs
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How about another poll option - don't care?
I've been a member of XDA for some time (5 years) and have benefited from XDA experience to install custom ROMs on three different Windows Mobile phones.
But I've had my HTC EVO 4G from when they first came out and I've never rooted it or put on a custom ROM. With Android, I never really needed to do so. It did pretty much everything I wanted it to do.
When I bought my Nook Color, I did root it and did play around with some custom ROMs, but now that I have my Acer, I've taken the Nook back to the standard release.
I've only rooted my Acer in order to get CIFS support. As long as we can root, I'm very happy with it.
So put me down as "don't care, love my Acer anyway!" !
So put me down as "don't care, love my Acer anyway!" !
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What he said!
Yes. Do not buy this tablet if your main goal is to work on hacking and custom roms. I just bricked my tablet yesterday while working on a custom ROM by inadvertently deleting a critical file from the /data partition that doesn't actually get flashed during the firmware update process. Now I'm stuck in a boot loop with no root and no possibility to fix it because of Acer's dumb bootloader lock.
I'm moving on from Acer. The A500 is a loat cause. Hopefully the Samsung 10.1 will have a more lenient boot loader policy otherwise I'll be getting the Asus Transformer.
Ya. That 'don't care' thing? That's me.
Though I did vote #3.
Dead. No.
Dying. Maybe.
It's still too early to judge. Maybe not in 'cracking' time, but in 'product life-cycle' time it is.
I vote for a 5th option, "This poll is stupid."
The device has barely even been out for a month, if you're that worried about it being hacked by now, then go get the transformer.
Fine tablet for me no need to go to a transformer or wat kind of tablet.....but....i will be waiting for Windows8 tot run on a500 so i can run software for the autistic kind of my girlfriend
dr1337 said:
Yes. Do not buy this tablet if your main goal is to work on hacking and custom roms. I just bricked my tablet yesterday while working on a custom ROM by inadvertently deleting a critical file from the /data partition that doesn't actually get flashed during the firmware update process. Now I'm stuck in a boot loop with no root and no possibility to fix it because of Acer's dumb bootloader lock.
I'm moving on from Acer. The A500 is a loat cause. Hopefully the Samsung 10.1 will have a more lenient boot loader policy otherwise I'll be getting the Asus Transformer.
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wait, wait, wait -- i thought you got rid of yours a few weeks ago. now it's "yesterday"?
cool story bro, tell it again.
dr1337 said:
Yes. Do not buy this tablet if your main goal is to work on hacking and custom roms. I just bricked my tablet yesterday while working on a custom ROM by inadvertently deleting a critical file from the /data partition that doesn't actually get flashed during the firmware update process. Now I'm stuck in a boot loop with no root and no possibility to fix it because of Acer's dumb bootloader lock.
I'm moving on from Acer. The A500 is a loat cause. Hopefully the Samsung 10.1 will have a more lenient boot loader policy otherwise I'll be getting the Asus Transformer.
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Have you tried the Chinese firmware update file? My understanding was that that file was a full system reload.
I had screwed my unit and thought it was bricked however this saved mine and I then put the US 1.141.07 upgrade over it.
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wait, wait, wait -- i thought you got rid of yours a few weeks ago. now it's "yesterday"?
cool story bro, tell it again.
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I just love it when a troll gets dragged out from under his bridge.
lawl, he posted like a week ago that he unbricked it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108928
Damn trolls.
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I just love it when a troll gets dragged out from under his bridge.
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What have you contributed to the XDA community? I was the one who pointed out that you didn't need the Flexrom to unbrick your system and was the one who pointed out that you didn't need a previous ROM's boot.img to update. I also happen to work on a few Nexus One ROMs and I was the first to get a firmware out with a working video camera recording on Gingerbread.
I would suggest you do a bit more research before you start flaming my posts. My reasons for bricking is a whole lot more complex than simply deleting the TelephonyProvider.apk etc.
If you really want to compare, just head down to Freenode and check out how many devs are on the #xoom and #asus-transformer channels and compare that to the #acer-a500.
*shrug*
I couldn't really care less about your contributions. In this thread, you appear to be trolling.
You seem to be pushing the transformer quite a bit, too, judging by your twitter page.
I think you just have something against the Iconia, and are therefore trolling.
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In this thread, you appear to be trolling.
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It's not just this thread..
I'm putting this in general because there is no Q&A, why is that?
I'm going to be receiving the x-former in a couple of days, and I just wan to know where to start.
Should I just leave it alone, or root?
Should I custom ROM it up?
I also have a Samsung Captivate with CyanogenMod 7, currently in nightly. My point is I'm not new to the android game, I just want your opinion, is there and need to bring my x-former to the dark side, or is it already capable enough?
I would suggest you try it out for a while and see if you need to root it. Unlike my phones and Nook, I have found no reason to root my transformer.
Hi!
Before receiving it I thought that first thing I'd be doing upon receiving my TF was going to be get it rooted. Actually I haven't needed rooting it until now.
I'd recommended you updated it OTA to 3.1 if necessary and then simply enjoying it. If time comes that make you think you need rooting then go ahead.
Enjoy yur new TF.
Regards.
I like the other posters, Have not rooted or Modded my Transformer. I was a big G Tablet user/fan, but the Transformer blows it away for about the same Retail Price. The stock 3.1 (Via OTA update) really makes this a great tablet. I have not seen any reason for me to ROOT (Other than Supplament WIFI for Ad-Hoc teathering) and maybe CWM Backup. I am going to wait for a while for things to settle down before I go down the Alternate ROMS path. The G tablet was different as it was useless out of the box.
CalvinH said:
Hi!
Before receiving it I thought that first thing I'd be doing upon receiving my TF was going to be get it rooted. Actually I haven't needed rooting it until now.
I'd recommended you updated it OTA to 3.1 if necessary and then simply enjoying it. If time comes that make you think you need rooting then go ahead.
Enjoy yur new TF.
Regards.
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Thanks! My thought has been to just try it, but knowing that I would put a ROM on it, but the Transformer seem solid on its own, from what I have read.
Starting to second guess rooting.
How is this possible, a non rooted android device in MY hands... crazy.
Update to 3.1, find good honeycomb apps (the thread in the apps/theme forum can be very usefull) then enjoy.
Right now, rooting the TF isn't nearly as interesting as it is for phones.
Oh and there's various dual battery widget specificaly made for the TF wich display the battery left in the dock (wich you cannot see otherwise), i suggest you grab one as soon as you can.
kokusho said:
Update to 3.1, find good honeycomb apps (the thread in the apps/theme forum can be very usefull) then enjoy.
Right now, rooting the TF isn't nearly as interesting as it is for phones.
Oh and there's various dual battery widget specificaly made for the TF wich display the battery left in the dock (wich you cannot see otherwise), i suggest you grab one as soon as you can.
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Not getting, at-least yet. I'm just a poor 16 year-old kid, the dock put me out of my budget. Ill hopefully get it later!
aaaww
How sad! the dock is awesome.
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aaaww
How sad! the dock is awesome.
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Yep, that's my thought, but hell, I gotta look at the bright side, I did get 400 bucks for it in one day! (My family is AWESOME!)
jerrykur said:
I would suggest you try it out for a while and see if you need to root it. Unlike my phones and Nook, I have found no reason to root my transformer.
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I agree,
I had a htc desire and rooted it because I wanted to overclock the CPU to save battery, but I don't think thats necessary with the transformer.
version 7.006.01 available....
downloading as we speak... can't wait to start playing
I got an hour ago. So far it seems to play smoother video but I haven't really had a chance to test drive
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Anyone tried Netflix yet?
jeelo said:
version 7.006.01 available....
downloading as we speak... can't wait to start playing
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Don't get too excited. You can't root 3.2 yet.
I got the update this morning in Vancouver. If there is no root by the end of the weekend (I don't have my hopes up), then I'm downgrading. I need ad-hoc to work.
Got it last night in Nova Scotia.
pacificwing said:
Don't get too excited. You can't root 3.2 yet.
I got the update this morning in Vancouver. If there is no root by the end of the weekend (I don't have my hopes up), then I'm downgrading. I need ad-hoc to work.
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Unfortunately I am not currently aware of a way to downgrade. trying to flash a lower version appears to leave the tablet unbootable. (otherwise I would be back on 3.1 until root for 3.2 appears)
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Unfortunately I am not currently aware of a way to downgrade. trying to flash a lower version appears to leave the tablet unbootable. (otherwise I would be back on 3.1 until root for 3.2 appears)
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Well hopefully someone will figure something out... otherwise its easier to upgrade keeping root than to upgrade and try and re-establish root.
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Well hopefully someone will figure something out... otherwise its easier to upgrade keeping root than to upgrade and try and re-establish root.
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Unfortunately it's too late for that for many of us...
When I upgraded I realized root may not work, but I always figured if it didn't I'd simply downgrade again and be ok... I never imagined that the downgrade wouldn't be possible either.
As my girlfriend said when I described it to her "who do they think they are? don't they know that you already paid for the device, it's not theirs anymore, why do they think they can still tell you what you can and can't do on it?" (Unfortunately I am not currently aware of any large technology company who believes that they actually sell you a device, they all think you merely rent it from them)
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Unfortunately it's too late for that for many of us...
When I upgraded I realized root may not work, but I always figured if it didn't I'd simply downgrade again and be ok... I never imagined that the downgrade wouldn't be possible either.
As my girlfriend said when I described it to her "who do they think they are? don't they know that you already paid for the device, it's not theirs anymore, why do they think they can still tell you what you can and can't do on it?" (Unfortunately I am not currently aware of any large technology company who believes that they actually sell you a device, they all think you merely rent it from them)
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I'm in the same boat. Acer has always been pretty flexible, so I just assumed I'd be able to downgrade. Now I'm stuck.
This could likely be my last Acer product. Not that that carries any weight, considering how many returns they had on the initial run of the A500, which didn't appear to bother them that much. (Have you tried the new A500's, or the refurbs? The GPS actually works!)
I understand that they don't want us mucking around with these types of things, in order to keep themselves from getting flooded with warranty and service calls from the idiots who bricked their tablet, but they often adopt the wrong attitude. It's like some irrational need to police what people do with a product, after they bought and paid for it. I'm not sure why consumer electronics differ from any other purchased property (cars, houses, appliances, etc). I wish they would understand that they do not still own my tablet.
Then again, we did choose to install the update. It wasn't exactly forced on us. So maybe we're the idiots.
-PW
Every android device I had was not able to be downgraded. Not just acer. Ask the people who upgraded their EVO 4G to gingerbread. If your expecting to root you should always way until their is a rooted ROM available and never accept ota
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Why is the US version always the last one to get the update? On .13 and none yet :-\
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I am happy that the new update seems to have made things smoother, but I am still getting the odd crash from apps like Dolpin Browser which is highly annoying, especially when I am in the middle of typing somthing big and then it FC's on me and I lose everything.
was in update loop
Dunno if this happened to anyone else. The tablet kept downloading the update and failing. I downloaded 3.2 update at least 8 times. The solution was to reset the tablet and then apply the update.
I've read its likely due to incompatible apps.
I'm happily on 3.2 now.
Does someone have the link to Acer for this update? If so please post the link.
Thanks
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Does someone have the link to Acer for this update? If so please post the link.
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No link, however a couple of us captured the update as it came in to our tablets, and have you can find the files here
A couple things.
I am still on 3.1 but this is because i patched for Netflix.
Now the device thinks it's a Xoom on 3.2 (which it is not, as we all know).
First question is has anyone tried Netflix with the update?
I'll search for it but does anyone have the original file that the netflix patch replaced?
I can't remember what it's called so it's difficult to search for it
Hmmm sounds like ill stay on 3.1
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