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Nexus S2 or S "plus"

Well the vibrant plus had been announced.
- T-mo's 4G
- FFC
- Froyo
and more I'm sure.
So maybe the Nexus S2 rumors are true.
I have a feeling Samsung is pushing updated phones too quick. At least wait a year.
I further explain myself here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10540297&postcount=15
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That was a rumor, already dismissed.
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There's not much they can actually add other than an SD slot 4g and maybe the new samoled plus. if I was a vibrant owner I'd be extremely pissed to hear about this though. Its not right to do customers like that but they don't care they just see the $$$$
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That was a rumor, already dismissed.
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Well in that case never mind lol
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If they do that ill go rage mode
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Didn't realize it was dismissed already.
But I guess the only thing keeping the from releasing another nexus would be Google. Unless Google felt the need to have a larger format dev phone like 4.3" screen, bring back HD video recording and possibly add a dual core processor.
Don't forget google already announced ice cream for this summer and the gingerbread isn't stale yet!
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here's the link to Vibrant 4G http://www.tmonews.com/2011/01/samsung-vibrant-plus-will-offer-21-mbps-4g-speeds/ for anybody interested

Well its gonna run Touchwiz and Froyo. Samsung will probably take forever to update it to gingerbread. That's enough to keep me away. I could care less about 4g Since I never see those speeds
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Dont think this will happen to us, the Nexus S is not a feature phone

I'm sorry, but anyone who buys a Samsung-supported phone at this point deserves what they will inevitably get.
The Behold II and Galaxy S fiascos should be ample warning: Samsung will NOT support the software on a phone it releases in the USA. The Vibrant 4G will release with Froyo, and will reach end-of-life with Froyo, except for custom ROMS.

Kill TouchWiz already!

Is it really Samsung, or is it Tmobile that delays the updates; or a combination of both?

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here's the link to Vibrant 4G http://www.tmonews.com/2011/01/samsung-vibrant-plus-will-offer-21-mbps-4g-speeds/ for anybody interested
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I like the fact that the new Vibrant Plus has a 1650mAH battery and 4g
This is why you ALWAYS buy phones with the idea that it will be left for dead by the manufacturer as soon as you buy it (unless of course you have a Nexus )
Couldn't imagine how crappy old Vibrant owners who signed 2-year contracts must feel since most people imagine they will have their phone be relevant for at least a year but it's already a "dinosaur" in their eyes in a little less than 6 months

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I have a feeling Samsung is pushing updated phones too quick. At least wait a year.
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A year is a VERY long time in the smartphone ecosystem, unless you're in a closed system like the iPhone with only yourself to compete with.
I've resigned myself to a new phone every 6 months for as long as I feel compelled to have the "latest, greatest" device.
A lot of Vibrant owners pissed off because of this, but I'm not going to fault Samsung for releasing what's a pretty major upgrade (true HSPA+ and FFC) 6-10 months after the SGS line came out.
Adding SAMOLED Plus would have made it less upsetting to most, I suspect.
I won't give Sammy a pass on the lack of Froyo progress on US model Galaxy S phones, though. They obviously have it (i9000 does, as does this); but is it possible their carrier partners are the problem here?
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Couldn't imagine how crappy old Vibrant owners who signed 2-year contracts must feel since most people imagine they will have their phone be relevant for at least a year but it's already a "dinosaur" in their eyes in a little less than 6 months
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Seriously?
C'mon, the Vibrant is still "relevant" and anything but a "dinosaur". It's still got one of the best screen technologies out there, a damn good GPU and CPU, 16gb internal and external sd cards, supports 7.2Mbs. Most non-XDA-member types will still love that phone for quite some time to come.

My point in all of this was Samsung denied that they were making a nexus 2 phone up until two weeks before release and dropped that they are making the nexus s; very clever.
Just like there were early rumors of vibrant plus and those were dismissed then at the end of CES it is announced.
So there have been rumors of a nexus s2 and I guess those have been dismissed as well unless they are are going to drop 2 weeks before google's release of "ice cream" a nexus s "plus". Speculative, I know but it fits the MO of Samsung and Google - short ly (apx 6mos.) after the mytouch was made into a dev phone the nexus one was announced with android 2.2. Maybe with the rapid rise of dual core phones and larger screens; google and samsung will want a dev phone this summer that will provide these options (dual core and larger screen) for devs to design HQ games and apps on. Because lets face it Apple iOS is one up on android because the quality games and that is it. Sony is releasing this year a PSP android gaming phone so I can only imagine google wanting their dev phones to start computing in that area as well.
G1 dev phone released Dec 2008
Mytouch "magic" ion dev released phone Aug 2009
(6 months span)
Nexus One dev phone released Jan 2010
Nexus S dev phone released Dec 2010
( ~ 6 months span)
Nexus S "plus" maybe in June/July 2011? marketing wise would take some steam out of apple's typical iphone release date.
Can't deny that there is some indicators of a possible marketing pattern.
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Seriously?
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Yes... Seriously

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Yes... Seriously
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Someone needs a reality check...
EVERY phone you buy is irrelevant within a matter of months, if not weeks by the standards you seem to be applying.

I would never buy a Touchwiz phone. Ever. Straight garbage.
Stock or HTC Sense. That's it. Everything else sucks, IMO.

Teddy Bruckshut said:
I would never buy a Touchwiz phone. Ever. Straight garbage.
Stock or HTC Sense. That's it. Everything else sucks, IMO.
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Nexus S is not a touchwiz phone. The primary reason of thread was to create a discussion whether or not people saw the viability of another nexus product releasing in 6 mos.
If interested please read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10540297&postcount=15

The way i see it, is they will NOT do this to the Nexus S, there isnt enough profit in it for them

What's your thoughts on the upcoming Galaxy S II

I ask this question as a current Vibrant owner from the day it came out. I have seen all that Samsung has done with its first line of Galaxy S phones and so I'm not sure if all the new technology is going to be worth the upcoming headaches. Its easier to get a working ROM from the community rather than deal with official Samsung updates.
If you feel the same way I do, do you feel like the Vibrant is the last Samsung device you'll ever buy?
I'm just curious and it might help me make a decision on buying any upcoming devices from Samsung. Also since I've learned that the new Sidekick is going to be a Samsung device, I'm already depressed about that one.
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If you feel the same way I do, do you feel like the Vibrant is the last Samsung device you'll ever buy?
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I will definitely be upgrading if possible. I love the vibrant, but I'm not sure if it will ever see 2.4. I remember reading somewhere that 2.4 will utilize hardware acceleration for the ui, I'm really looking forward to that.

This will be my next phone love the phone............

I'm currently trying to decide if I am going to upgrade to it or hold off for something else. I think it just depends on what else comes out at MWC and when the release date will be on the S II.
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It's between this and HDdesire2 similar specs HTC doesn't seem to have a ffc.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.

http://galaxys2.samsungmobile.com/html/specification.html
I bought the galaxy s cause it had the most powerful cpu in the bunch + screen. The s2 = better screen + 1gb ram + dual core processor that's better than the hummingbird and the mali400 gpu is way better than current sgx540. Overall, it'll be the most powerful device in terms of hardware, i'll find some way to afford one!!
But yes, i'm pissed about the updates, wish they'd just release the source for everything and let the community do it if they don't want to.
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It's not about buying it or not. That's a sure buy for me.
It's about when it'll be available on the T-Mo network. T-Mobile has its own 3G frequency(1700?) making buying a smartphone without this feature(i.e., that's not OEMed for T-Mo) a hard decision.

Im buying the first HSPA+, 4.3 inch Android phone T-Mo puts out. If this is it then ill be upgrading to this.
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I don't know... it is going to be sooooo expensive unless they subsidize it on T-Mo. Right now you can get a decent Vibrant off craigslist for $250 off contract. That's pretty unbeatable. I doubt I'll be getting one of these for at least a year.

i prob wont end up getting it, samsung ruined their phones for me!

My next phone. Perfect timing with tax time
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Thank you community! Your input is very helpful. I guess time will tell when it has a tmo version. If it costs to much then no, if the price is right then Yes! or I just get the sidekick as im getting sick and tired of this virtual keyboard lol.
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Never again. Fed up with Samsung and their wannabe-software.
Concentrate on what you know; hardware.

Im kind of up in the air...cool comes with 2.3 but 2.3 isn't that great that's why 2.4 is out in couple months to fix what issues 2.3 has and to add features 2.3 should have had if it wasn't rushed.
So who knows when it will get 2.4
If i do decided to get im getting a real galaxy s 2 and not from carrier one thing to wait from Samsung another to wait for tmobile on top of it

Depends on what HTC has available on T-Mobile, if somehow HTC puts out a competing phone it will be a tossup, but will come down to the screen size and how well SLCD holds up against SAMOLED

demo23019 said:
If i do decided to get im getting a real galaxy s 2 and not from carrier one thing to wait from Samsung another to wait for tmobile on top of it
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My sentiments exactly. Straight from Sammy or no thank you.

Wow have you guys seen this video? Seems very laggy - http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-official-tegra-2-4-3-inch-super-amoled-plu/

Getting a Windows Phone. Tired of dealing with manufacturer skins or crippled Nexus phones (i.e. Nexus S).
Also, why do people put up with the high rate at which Android Manufacturers cannibalize their devices.
Vibrant 4G may have good download speeds but who will want it if T-Mobile gets a Galaxy S II Variant - the same way some people are getting Nexus S due to the Vibrant's issues?
That's 4 new phones announced since the Vibrant was released... 6 months or so? And I'm ignoring it's sister phones on the ohter 3 major carriers and phones like the Continuum on Verizon...
It's hard for these non-Nexus devices to keep value when manufacturers are releasing new phones at such breakneck paces, and it makes it hard to commit to purchasing anything, since the chances of a better phone being released so soon is so high.
There's a reason why iPhones and even Windows phones are selling for more on eBay and CL than even high end Android phones...

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Wow have you guys seen this video? Seems very laggy - http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-official-tegra-2-4-3-inch-super-amoled-plu/
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Par for the course...
The fanbois are running out of excuses. I wonder if they'll claim Android isn't optimized for Tegra II this time, like they did with the Hummingbird.
The issue was always Samsung's RFS and crappy TouchWiz. Why buy something with TouchWiz on it, and I wouldn't rule out RFS, either...
Also, is it just me or does that phone have some odd choices of pre-loaded applications... Vlingo, for example...
Looks like an iPhone 4, though.

I really wish they would get rid of the chrome and round out the phone little
like the NS but still looks nice
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Par for the course...
The fanbois are running out of excuses. I wonder if they'll claim Android isn't optimized for Tegra II this time, like they did with the Hummingbird.
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Tegra 2 guess was a typo its supposed to come with Samsung Exynos
either way 2.3 isn't even optimized for dualcore 2.4 is suppose to be

[Q] Which new phone are you getting this year?

I think if the Samsung Galaxy S 2 comes out for Verizon, I'll get that one. But if not, I think I'm getting the Samsung Charge, or Iphone 5. What phone are you most excited about?

iPhone
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sgs2, I hate apple so undecided on iphone 5
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None. I'm stuck on the two year contract. I don't know how you are not?

SGSII definitely. I'm avaliable for an upgrade anytime til my contract ends November.
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Nothing from Samsung, that's for sure.

I actually really like this phone once its de-bloated and de-crapified. Actually its probably my favorite phone I've ever had. (that includes numerous smart phones and platforms going back to the nokia 3650 on symbian os). Im going to stick around with it until there's something amazing released.
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do you know if its coming to verizon?

I'll get the SGSII, IF and only if it doesn't have anything locking it down and preventing custom ROMs/Kernels. Otherwise, I'll find something else.

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I'll get the SGSII, IF and only if it doesn't have anything locking it down and preventing custom ROMs/Kernels. Otherwise, I'll find something else.
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Supercurio has been posting numerous Tweets on his Twitter bout that, seems that there's not too much to worry about that
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This mod will be getting a Thunderbolt when his contract with ATTmobile is up.
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Supercurio has been posting numerous Tweets on his Twitter bout that, seems that there's not too much to worry about that
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Yeah, didn't see those when I posted that. Just need to make sure that VZW doesn't request that the bootloader be locked and Samsung follow through with it.

bwt_3 said:
Nothing from Samsung, that's for sure.
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What she said! F' Samsung! I've had all 3 omnia's and now the Fascinate and am sick of having to wait for updates whilest others bask in the update glory!
jv

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Yeah, didn't see those when I posted that. Just need to make sure that VZW doesn't request that the bootloader be locked and Samsung follow through with it.
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Saw this posted on twitter ... Wayne and company are generally a solid source.
http://www.gizmoninja.com/2011/04/15/samsung-will-not-lock-its-bootloaders/
So will unlocked bootloaders win out over slower software updates? For me personally I say yes.
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I actually really like this phone once its de-bloated and de-crapified. Actually its probably my favorite phone I've ever had. (that includes numerous smart phones and platforms going back to the nokia 3650 on symbian os). Im going to stick around with it until there's something amazing released.
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I'm probably going to do the same, I'm hoping that it can get me til sometime in december of 2012 so i can leave verizon...though my contract is "up" in march of 2012 my girlfriend's line doesn't end until 12/23/2012

I just jumped ship from the Fascinate to the Thunderbolt a few days ago. Rooted and have been experimenting.
After getting a sense of the Thunderbolt and putting it side by side with the Fascinate, its not as dominant as I would have expected. The Fascinate's SAMOLED screen is just substantially better than the Thunderbolt's S-LCD. Its not even close really. Also, the latest gen Snapdragon + Adreno 205....doesn't seem as snappy as the Fascinate SoC. Fascinate definitely has better graphics. Very subtle stutters on the Thunderbolt after testing a few ROMs and Kernels. Also, its certainly a matter of opinion, but the Thunderbolt is just a tad too big compared with the Fascinate. They have the power button on top like an iPhone, and the way I would naturally grip the phone puts the power button barely out of reach of my index finger. I have to do a very small phone adjust in my hand to allow my index finger to get on top of the power button, but the Fascinate's 4 inch screen is about as large as I would imagine it could get for it to require no movement of the phone in the palm while operating it, which is preferable I think.
On the other hand - Verizon's LTE network is stupid fast. NYC with its saturated 3G networks -- the LTE network is like coming up for air after nearly drowning. Its rock solid everywhere I've been, almost like ubiquitous WiFi. When you really think about it, even the best Dual-Core Cortex A9 phones on ATT can't really touch a Cortex A8 experience on WiFi. The network makes an enormous difference and that can't be stressed enough.
The Thunderbolt is sexier than the Fascinate with its screen off. I don't really care about the kickstand, but the feel and heft is a welcome change from the Fascinate. Although not a graphics beast, it is by no means a slouch. The UI is very snappy, and I'll be very curious once CM7/AOSP gets released.
Thats the final thing about the Thunderbolt that I think is worth mentioning. The Thunderbolt forum is buzzing. Lots of devs, people are gearing up for CM7 nightlies/crackflashing. Not to say this forum wasn't Fantastic, but the Thunderbolt, and HTC in general, seem to have a slightly more robust community. I'm not at all upset with my decision to switch, but the Fascinate is by NO MEANS old hardware right now, in fact using the Thunderbolt makes me appreciate how good Samsung was on the hardware side.

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Saw this posted on twitter ... Wayne and company are generally a solid source.
http://www.gizmoninja.com/2011/04/15/samsung-will-not-lock-its-bootloaders/
So will unlocked bootloaders win out over slower software updates? For me personally I say yes.
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I agree, and with an unlocked bootloader and a whole SLEW of awesome devs that I know are gonna jump on this beast of a phone and with Sammy leaking source code and updates like EB01/EC01 for free beta testing, we don't need official OTA updates. I WILL BE GETTING THE GALAXY S 2!
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That is a great question. I bought a used Fascinate to hold me over, and to learn the Android system. I am hoping that later in the year I can get something with dual core and LTE. But I also don't want to give up battery life. So this may not be possible.
I like Android, but have a bad opinion of Samsung compared to my previous multiple HTC WinMo devices.
So I want:
For the OS: Android, likely not Microsoft, never Apple.
Manufacturer: HTC, maybe Moto, Samsung is low on the list.
Carrier: Verizon...........period.. What I need it for, other choices fail.
Dual core would be nice, but not at the expensive of a lot of battery life.
I want LTE. Not badly, but there is not much reason to throw away a 2 year contract and not get it.
The Thunderbolt is almost it, and may BE it, for me. Maybe I really don't want dual core just yet anyway. The new SGS II is probably nice, but I'm sure I would be returning in to Verizon as it would have the same hardware weaknesses that I see in the Fascinate.
So I'm waiting it out for now to see what else comes along. Until I smash this P.O.S. Fascinate against the ground and I'm forced to decide.

It's going to be really tough for me to buy another Samsung phone. The internal guts of the Fascinate are awesome (which is why I bought it), but the lack of support and poorly written code is a real let-down. I'm definitely going to explore other phone manufacturers and carriers to see how things compare. If another network suits my daily needs, I'll definitely switch... possibly to T-Mobile given their upcoming line-up of phones. I'm not excited about the possible AT&T merger, but I definitely won't be locking myself into any contracts in the near future. Android progresses way too quickly to get locked into anything longer than 1 year - and those contracts are going away.
As much as most would hate to hear it, if the iPhone had Google Navigation, a universal micro-USB port and maybe removable internal storage + battery... I would consider it. I doubt those things would ever happen, so no iPhone for me. An MIUI-compatible Android would be much better anyways.

Galaxy S2. Samsung is improving. I mean, GB is rolling out to the i9000 before any other phone. Their hardware is superior. With the Galaxy S2, it's EXT4. AND, the bootloader is gonna be open. It seems that they ARE listening to the consumers. Though I'm angry that we still don't have 2.2, I blame Verizon for that more than Samsung.

I love my vibrant

I love my Vibrant. I really do. It's been running great since the day 1.
In 20 days, I am moving overseas. I know for a fact that the cell phones are much more expensive in the country that I will be traveling. If I ever decide to change my Vibrant, I need to do it now! But I don't know what to get
Essentially, there would be at least half a dozen new phones to choose from, which all would have a ton of new stuff; but I don't believe this is the case. HTC Sensation? Droid X? What is out there that would blow my brains out?
Anyways, if you think Vibrant is weak compared to newer phones and recommend I should change it before my travel, please say so. Thanks!

Galaxy S2 nuff said
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There have been a lot of killer phones recently released, but I'm lovin' my Sensation!

depends... where are you moving to? - don't have to answer if its that personal to you.
then we can tell you that phones are released there, or what phones are set to be released.
Anyways without knowing your location a random shot - i'd say Galaxy S 2

I personally don't think any of the new devices (Galaxy S2 included) really justify the cost of buying a new device. Unless Android finally gains some multi-core support now, dual cores will underperform compared to a higher clocked single core chip or due to the higher resolutions on newer devices such as the Sensation. As of now, your best bet is to just upgrade to CM7 or a nice JVR rom (has a buttery smooth browser similar to the one in SGS2) and wait the for next Nexus. Even on its single core Hummingbird, the Nexus S still probably performs the same of slightly better simply due to its stock vanilla rom.

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I personally don't think any of the new devices (Galaxy S2 included) really justify the cost of buying a new device. Unless Android finally gains some multi-core support now, dual cores will underperform compared to a higher clocked single core chip or due to the higher resolutions on newer devices such as the Sensation. As of now, your best bet is to just upgrade to CM7 or a nice JVR rom (has a buttery smooth browser similar to the one in SGS2) and wait the for next Nexus. Even on its single core Hummingbird, the Nexus S still probably performs the same of slightly better simply due to its stock vanilla rom.
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Exactly what I was trying to say (my poor English) .
Any device out there that will "justify the cost of buying a new device" ??

anilo said:
Exactly what I was trying to say (my poor English) .
Any device out there that will "justify the cost of buying a new device" ??
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Nope. All are the same ****.

anilo said:
Exactly what I was trying to say (my poor English) .
Any device out there that will "justify the cost of buying a new device" ??
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Just wait for the next nexus it will be worth the wait.
I myself would not be buying another android phone if it's not a nexus phone.
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No nothing is worth the money to upgrade right now. The vibrant (if its modded and customized) should be good enough wherever you're going. See if you can get your hands on a regular internation galaxy s. Its supported infinitely more (they've been on gb since like september lol) and still gets updates...
The gs 2 isn't worth the upgrade. Well to me atleast. The screen is the same that's the only deal breaker
I have the epic 4g and this phone is definitely good enough. My friend just got the sensation and I'm envious, ofcourse, but its not as much of a jump from, say, the mytouch 3g to the mytouch 4g slide.
If you really want to upgrade, then get another gsm phone. The droid x is a downgrade and its also CDMA which is mainly only supported in the US and japan.
Good luck, my fellow galaxy s brother
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Or wait for ice cream sandwich it should have a great speed boost since the phone will be GPU assisted or just get next nexus
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I would love mine more if it wasn't for all the things that should just work that are kinda quirky. I love the screen and everything else that isnt
At least this phone has given me insights into exactly what to look for and test before i will take another phone home. Most of the time you do not realize what is important to you until it doesn't work as expected.
Vibrant - Its like that beautiful expensive car you got then realize that it was a car rental at one time and things just start to surface.... flat tire... um where is the spare... its just a rim with no rubber on it.

Nope there is noting new that is worth changing phone.
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If you love the Vibrant, you will love the Galaxy S2. If possible, get the international version.

Thank you very much guys. I kind of knew it wasn't worth spending a ton of money on something not so much different than our Vibrant running strong on CM7.
Although, I still wish someone had said I have to have an HTC Sensation so that I can start shopping for one just for the adrenalin

i love my vibrant 2

Gs2 or wait for next nexus
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Nexus S T-Mobile

Does anyone know if there is still any place that sells brand new GT-I9020T Nexus S phones?

Best buy
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and will that work on T-Mobile 3G? I see that it is listed as an AT&T phone

You have to pick the Tmobile one. They sell all 3.
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are you sure? I don't see the T-Mobile Nexus S listed on their site...

Try a Store!

traded an htc sensation for mine. no regrets

having trouble deciding between the Nexus S and the upcoming nexus prime.. the prime looks cool but 4.65 inch screen just seems impractical for a smartphone...

the prime is not going to be released any time soon
hope that helps

wait seriously? how do you know?

melterx12 said:
having trouble deciding between the Nexus S and the upcoming nexus prime.. the prime looks cool but 4.65 inch screen just seems impractical for a smartphone...
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4.65" is including the part for "buttons" since they will be on the screen as there aren't any physical keys. so technically it isn't 4.65"
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but is it really not coming out anytime soon?

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but is it really not coming out anytime soon?
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Depends on your definition of "soon".
As of right now it looks like it will be released around November.

If you want a cynic's opinion, here it is: The Nexus S was old-hat before it was even released. The only benefit was the ease of unlocking and getting updates first, which sounds awesome until you realize that the initial versions of GB were massively buggy. I'd expect the same for ICS. Add to that the fact that HTC is making it so you can easily unlock all of their phones and the list of reasons why I would want one gets much, much shorter. Non-existent, in fact. I'm actively looking for a way to get my hands on a device with hardware that wasn't dated before the first model rolled off the line or wasn't succeeded months later by a phone with a key feature the original was lacking for a more than sub-par carrier. I've said it before, but to save you the trouble of reading it somewhere else, I should have learned my lesson about buying Samsung phones after the Epic 4g debacle but I didn't. I have now and I'll advise anyone against buying their POS devices.

what does gingerbread being buggy have to do with samsung?

AllGamer said:
the prime is not going to be released any time soon
hope that helps
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I'd say before the end of the year is "soon"

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what does gingerbread being buggy have to do with samsung?
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When did I say it did? Never? Yeah that's the answer to that. See there are things called 'lists' where you mention many things that are all related to one other topic but are not necessarily related to each other. Like a grocery list. See cereal and baby spinach are not related to each other but they are both things I need from the grocery store. Just like GB being buggy and my hatred for the way Samsung treats its customers are both reasons why I wouldn't want another nexus device but they are not related to each other. Does basic sentence structure make sense now?
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kenvan19 said:
When did I say it did? Never? Yeah that's the answer to that. See there are things called 'lists' where you mention many things that are all related to one other topic but are not necessarily related to each other. Like a grocery list. See cereal and baby spinach are not related to each other but they are both things I need from the grocery store. Just like GB being buggy and my hatred for the way Samsung treats its customers are both reasons why I wouldn't want another nexus device but they are not related to each other. Does basic sentence structure make sense now?
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I think he was confused (as was I) by the fact that your conclusion didn't really follow from your argument. You complained about the phone being outdated and you complained about gingerbread being buggy and then you ended by concluding that you shouldn't have bought a Samsung phone. But everything you complained of was Google's doing.
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I just picked up an i9020t Nexus S knowing full well that the Nexus Prime is coming. You know why?
Refined Galaxy S hardware
Comfortable rounded edges (looking at you, captivate)
Great ROM support, with ICS on the horizon
Respectable battery life
Pretty freaking fast
So yeah, the phone's hardware is dated. However, the Nexus S is my favorite size and shape, and OC'ed to 1.2ghz with some speed hacks from different places, I can't even imagine wanting for more speed. Now, this is all my opinion, but you can land a Nexus S now for a reasonable price. So get one and have several happy months of hacking!

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