I am in a dilemma, the DVP has come done in price in India to approx Rs.20K and I am tempted to buy one next month as a gift to myself.
This puts it up against the the Nokia 710, HTC Radar and the Samsung Omnia W (when it gets released). Both the newer handsets have more powerful processors, but smaller screens and no keyboard.
I would be totally new to WP7, what software features does the newer handsets have that the DVP doesn't? (I am going to answer my own question and say there are no differences, but can actual users please confirm?).
What hardware differences are there between the DVP and the newer gen handsets? I would mainly be using it for light business use, but heavy multimedia and gaming. As gaming will play a big factor, would new game releases become unplayable on the DVP? How long will the DVP hardware last before it becomes obsolete?
What negatives are there to the DVP compared to other WP7 handsets?
I would normally keep a handset for around 2 yrs. I know the DVP is already being discontinued around Europe. Is it worth buying an old model and will it last at leaset another 2 years?
I know some phones are starting to come out that have front facing cameras. Also, the Venue Pro is not very popular with devs, all the other phones are getting interop unlocks and Wifi hotspot hacks and the DVP isn't. I'm not sure exactly, but there are discrepancies going around about what kind of WiFi chip the DVP has, so it may not even be able to support wireless tethering. Media is great, I watch Netflix and other movies on it regularly. Games...ehh...WP7 is probably not the way you want to go when it comes to games. I mean, there are some, but definitely not as many coming out on Android or iOS. With all that said, I love my DVP. I love a physical keyboard and the unique portrait slider design of this phone never gets old. Email from my work is sent to my phone, I take notes on my phone, I make drafts of Word papers on it. It's definitely professional looking. Once you get over the no front facing camera, no interop unlock, *possible* no wifi hotspot, and not many games in the marketplace (you can look on the windows phone website to see all the games available now) you will definitely love the phone. Unless any drastic changes come to the OS, I think it'll last you a couple years.
Hardware-wise, DVP lacks
* A functional compass
* Network features: hidden wi-fi SSD and tethering
* A front-facing camera
Other than that I would not worry too much about it becoming obsolete, any more than the gen-2 handsets.
Best deal, hands down IMO.
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Best deal, hands down IMO.
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Agreed I got mine for £179
Thanks for all the replies.
I am tempted, the lack of Front Camera is not a huge deal breaker for me, but the Compass not working, network features issue and interop unlocks would bother me.
Had these issues not been there, it was my first choice of handset.
Now I need to find the next best alternative (as for WP7).
Hey, are you sure about dropping DVP?
I bought it as a XMas gift for my daughter, and it's been performing wonderously since then.
The NW issue is not a deal-breaker - it's a limitation in WP7, fixed now in Mango.
Unlock is not relevant to India. All phones are anyway sold without contracts.
i think for 20k rs ur better off with the dvp..i personally use one and am really happy with the device..bought the phone as soon as it was released..the initial batch had some firmware problems which were resolved later on...its a really nice phone if you could look over the ffc and the compass which i think could be fixed in a future firmware release..plus the second generation phones have not much difference in hardware except for a slight bump in speed as ive seen it...
i would go for the 2nd gen anyday.
There don't seem to be any Gen 2 handsets with hardware keyboards, so the DVP is a good choice if you need a keyboard.
One other thing to consider is that the Gen 2 handsets are almost certain to be updated to Windows Phone 8. I haven't seen any guidance on whether the launch devices (including DVP) will receive Windows Phone 8 later this year - they may or may not. If you're planning to keep the phone for 2 years, this may be worth considering.
me personnel opinion is that win phone 8 will come to gen 1 devices...cos Apollo is slated for a 2012 release and as of now not many gen 2 handsets have come out with the latest being lumia 900 and htc titan2..talks of a samsung mendel has been going around..and the initially released gen 2 handsets(which do not have much difference with the first win phone handsets other than having mango preloaded and a slight bump in speed)but then thats it..i dont think microsoft would just want a few models trotting apollo since thats supposed to be one of their highlights in 2012....just my opinion though...
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me personnel opinion is that win phone 8 will come to gen 1 devices...cos Apollo is slated for a 2012 release and as of now not many gen 2 handsets have come out with the latest being lumia 900 and htc titan2..talks of a samsung mendel has been going around..and the initially released gen 2 handsets(which do not have much difference with the first win phone handsets other than having mango preloaded and a slight bump in speed)but then thats it..i dont think microsoft would just want a few models trotting apollo since thats supposed to be one of their highlights in 2012....just my opinion though...
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Good arguement. I disagree though. I don't see Apollo hitting gen 1 devices. Many of the gen 1 devices, were old design, old hardware. They lacked the ability to do 4g and other accepted 'Now" functions....There may be 1 or 2 devices from gen 1 that could qualify, but, if looking for a continuing impact, Apollo on new devices, keeps the Wow going. Though I believe the Lumia 900 could be a Apollo device, the Lumia 710 most likely isn't. Now that OEMs are getting Windows Phones updated or compatible ( with android) hardware, I would think they would want those gen 1 devices to leave the market. Just my opinion....
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me personnel opinion is that win phone 8 will come to gen 1 devices...cos Apollo is slated for a 2012 release and as of now not many gen 2 handsets have come out with the latest being lumia 900 and htc titan2..talks of a samsung mendel has been going around..and the initially released gen 2 handsets(which do not have much difference with the first win phone handsets other than having mango preloaded and a slight bump in speed)but then thats it..i dont think microsoft would just want a few models trotting apollo since thats supposed to be one of their highlights in 2012....just my opinion though...
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Actually I think that is what Ms wants. I think the apple model is their 'dream' destination. The various makes and models are for android competitors. Also, I believe everyone 'ideally' wants to drop the keyboard. Each year fewer and fewer are made...and designed.
I think the Ms models gives us low end, high end and something in between...in several different colors.
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Well, it seems it is a though decision for many people besides me...
I went from a HTC Touch to a i780 from Samsung. Much better phone than the Touch as everybody should know. Used it for more than a year till I got my hands on a new Samsung Jet. Very nice phone, much lighter, smaller, nice interface, and above all a awesome display (AMOLED 800x480). So I bought it a few months ago, but... the problem is when someone is used to a real smartphone with all the software and apps available, and the true customization options... So, Jet to the closet and i780 back on use, but... always a "but"... after getting used to the awesome display, the i780 just looks like crap.
Ok, so even with lot's of phones on every corner of my house, I'm convinced to get something new. I've tried a HTC Hero from a friend and really liked the HTC Sense interface. Android also seem's to work fine under the Sense skin, but the display and an old OS version (android 1.6) doesn't convince me to spend my money as I know I'll always be thinking on something more "up to date".
I went through net surfing and some stores, and the HD2 is really a awesome device: great, great display, fast, etc... But as we know, soon there will be some great new devices: the HTC Supersonic (HD2 alike with Android); the HTC Bravo (much alike Nexus One, but with the awesome HTC Sense); and the Nexus One itself (not yet available in Portugal, but soon it will get here). Besides those, there will be a new iPhone soon, and I don't believe Apple want's to loose the race of smartphones with a new iPhone with lower specs than the others, so probably a great iPhone will come to the light. I must say, I'm a Mac user, but never felt the "need" for an iPhone, but I confess I really like it.
So, in my place, what would you do? HD2 right now or wait for the others?
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HTC Supersonic
HTC Bravo
iPhone
Wait for the 5" Dell mini 5 on Android!
I think the new iphone will be very similar in specs to the ipad and it will not have any special '4G' apps. But I could be wrong.
4G is supposed to be the name of the new iPhone... I'm not thinking about new apps, only better specs: display, camera, faster cpu, etc...
By the time 4G/LTE is actually a reasonably implemented cellular standard across Europe, the iPhone "4G" will look like a toy from half a decade ago...
Be happy that there are at least a few places in Portugal with 7.2mbps HSDPA service, and generally available 3.6mbps/1.8mbps maximum speeds (all theoretical, of course).
Just get a HD2 now, friend.
I think you can expect a 5mpix camera, 1GHz Apple processor and MAYBE a better display... which means, in the best case, the specs will match the HTC Bravo.
So, I'd say forget about the iPhone. No iPhone could yet match the hardware specs of its competitors, and that won't change with the next version.
Question that remains: HTC Bravo or HD2... right now, I'd say Bravo, BUT that won't be available until March, which is when Windows Mobile 7 will have already been unveiled.
Bottom line: Wait until the announcement of Windows Mobile 7 on February 15. Chances are that it will blow away every bit of desire you now feel for Android or iPhone
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By the time 4G/LTE is actually a reasonably implemented cellular standard across Europe, the iPhone "4G" will look like a toy from half a decade ago...
Be happy that there are at least a few places in Portugal with 7.2mbps HSDPA service, and generally available 3.6mbps/1.8mbps maximum speeds (all theoretical, of course).
Just get a HD2 now, friend.
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You are right my friend, but once more I want to make an attention call for this: iPhone 4G, it's only the name of the device. It doesn't mean it's built for 4th generation networks. At least, it's the name already seen in the source code of the latest updates of iPhone OS. The new iPhone, will be called 4G the same way it could be called 3GSS, or something else...
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I think you can expect a 5mpix camera, 1GHz Apple processor and MAYBE a better display... which means, in the best case, the specs will match the HTC Bravo.
So, I'd say forget about the iPhone. No iPhone could yet match the hardware specs of its competitors, and that won't change with the next version.
Question that remains: HTC Bravo or HD2... right now, I'd say Bravo, BUT that won't be available until March, which is when Windows Mobile 7 will have already been unveiled.
Bottom line: Wait until the announcement of Windows Mobile 7 on February 15. Chances are that it will blow away every bit of desire you now feel for Android or iPhone
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Aside from the awesome display, the Bravo it's the one most appealing. HD2 or Supersonic, really have great displays, but they are uncomfortable big to carry out on your pocket (pants pocket of course).
About Windows 7, let's wait and see. To say the true, I've always been a Linux/MacOS user and fan (I work as IT Security Specialist, so Windows is always a bad work tool), but to be honest, I've never had problems with Windows based mobile devices...
At least I hope WinMobile 7 to be as good as Windows 7 for PC.
Aside from the awesome display, the Bravo it's the one most appealing.
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Yeah, NOW... but as I said, by the time the Bravo gets available, you may already have seen WM7 and may not find the Bravo appealing anymore.
You should just wait now, it's a long time until Bravo, iPhone 4G etc. get available and with the speed that smartphones are evolving, what seems appealing now may already be boring with a month.
If you want a new phone right now, get the HD2. That's undoubtedly the best smartphone thats available now in Europe.
But if you don't mind waiting, just stop wondering now about what you should buy and wait what will happen.
And by the way, the HD2 will not be too big for your pocket at all. In fact, I find it more comfortable than the iPhone 3G and the Touch HD I had before, due to the reduced thickness.
At least I hope WinMobile 7 to be as good as Windows 7 for PC.
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Which would make it the best mobile OS
(says someone who has never touched Mac OS X again since the first beta of Windows 7)
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If you want a new phone right now, get the HD2. That's undoubtedly the best smartphone thats available now in Europe.
And by the way, the HD2 will not be too big for your pocket at all. In fact, I find it more comfortable than the iPhone 3G and the Touch HD I had before, due to the reduced thickness.
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Right now, it is really the best one. But will in the future be available an official OS update with WM7? This is probably the most popular question on the forum about the HD2, and if it really has some "hidden" memory to support it...
About it's size, I tried one in the shop when I was carrying my i780. It is bigger than the i780 and it really feels that big in my pocket, even without the leather case. Bigger than my i780, which is uncomfortable in the pocket (front left pocket of my pants) specially when driving... but I forgive it for the awesome display
Right now, it is really the best one. But will in the future be available an official OS update with WM7?
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The HD2 definitely supports it. It does not need any hidden memory, the official specs are enough. I can promise you this.
What I can not promise, is that HTC will release an official upgrade. If they don't there's still a chance that WM7 for the HD2 will be leaked.
But if you want to be sure, just wait another two weeks, cause it's likely that if they will release an official upgrade, they will announce it at the same time Microsoft annouces WM7.
My advice is: Wait for two weeks, and if you like WM7 and there will be an official upgrade, then buy the HD2.
If you don't like what Microsoft shows at MWC, then you can still think about what device to buy. Right now, wondering about what to buy is just a waste of time, because a lot will change in the next few weeks.
The wait will kill me
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JorgeMPVCosta said:
Well, it seems it is a though decision for many people besides me...
I went from a HTC Touch to a i780 from Samsung. Much better phone than the Touch as everybody should know. Used it for more than a year till I got my hands on a new Samsung Jet. Very nice phone, much lighter, smaller, nice interface, and above all a awesome display (AMOLED 800x480). So I bought it a few months ago, but... the problem is when someone is used to a real smartphone with all the software and apps available, and the true customization options... So, Jet to the closet and i780 back on use, but... always a "but"... after getting used to the awesome display, the i780 just looks like crap.
Ok, so even with lot's of phones on every corner of my house, I'm convinced to get something new. I've tried a HTC Hero from a friend and really liked the HTC Sense interface. Android also seem's to work fine under the Sense skin, but the display and an old OS version (android 1.6) doesn't convince me to spend my money as I know I'll always be thinking on something more "up to date".
I went through net surfing and some stores, and the HD2 is really a awesome device: great, great display, fast, etc... But as we know, soon there will be some great new devices: the HTC Supersonic (HD2 alike with Android); the HTC Bravo (much alike Nexus One, but with the awesome HTC Sense); and the Nexus One itself (not yet available in Portugal, but soon it will get here). Besides those, there will be a new iPhone soon, and I don't believe Apple want's to loose the race of smartphones with a new iPhone with lower specs than the others, so probably a great iPhone will come to the light. I must say, I'm a Mac user, but never felt the "need" for an iPhone, but I confess I really like it.
So, in my place, what would you do? HD2 right now or wait for the others?
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whats the point in waiting ? every few monats a new really cool phone come out. and you can not compare these phones, there is one windows mobile phone,3 android phones and a osx phone.
Um, what about the Diamond 3/Obsession, or whatever it will be called???
I'm itching to buy an HD2, I even went and had another play with one today : ) However, there are two things stopping me buying it. One is size, the other is that the lack of an AMOLED display.
At the end of last year I bought an Acer S200 with Snapdragon chip. It was awesome because it was so fast : ) The downside was the lack of people developing stuff for it here on XDA, so when the headphone jack failed after two weeks, I sent it back. The next phone I tried was an Omnia II, which was dog slow compared to the Acer, but, of course, it was a little bit smaller than the Acer and it had a beautiful AMOLED screen...
So, I reckon, if you're unsure of the size, wait until the MWC in a couple of weeks and see what is announced. If HTC release a WinMo device that is the size of the Bravo or smaller, but still has a 3.7" sreen and Snapdragon chip, I'm buying it ; )
With regard to WinMo 7, I have one big worry. What if the specs that have been leaked are a minumum standard??? What if our Snapdragon devices struggle to run it like earlier Qualcomm chipsets struggle with 6.5?? What if you actually need the faster Snapdragon, or even dual core Snapdragon chipset to run it well? Just a thought : )
If you want a new phone now, buy the HD2 as it is by far the best one out there. If you can wait, there is always something better coming in the future.
But then, if "something better" is finally out, there will probably be another something better if you can wait another while...
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With regard to WinMo 7, I have one big worry. What if the specs that have been leaked are a minumum standard??? What if our Snapdragon devices struggle to run it like earlier Qualcomm chipsets struggle with 6.5?? What if you actually need the faster Snapdragon, or even dual core Snapdragon chipset to run it well? Just a thought : )
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Don't believe the bull**** people spread on the internet. The HD2 runs WM7 perfectly.
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and you can not compare these phones, there is one windows mobile phone,3 android phones and a osx phone.
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What he said. To me from what I've tried android is a big "meh", so it's out. iPhone is even more out for lack of multitasking, closed environment, etc. So that leaves only the HD2. And, good news, I've loved it when trying it. So my order will go out next week
You cannot chase technology and win my friend, whatever you buy now will be old in 4 months time. R&D is always way ahead. Whatever you buy, buy it for your needs and learn to be satisfied, remembering that they will ALWAYS be something new just around the corner, and if you don't adjust your thinking you will always be unhappy as soon as the next thing comes out.
Looks like there is major issues with getting parts for these new phones, wifi issues and no expandable Micro SD (without voiding warranty).. DVP has been delayed till January 2011 in UK.
I'm feeling a little sorry for MS at moment, they've put alot of work in to this OS and they have been really let down by there handset Partners. Should have gone with one phone and one manufacturer like the G1 and the Iphone 1.0, got a platform that worked and a good handset.... then developed from there. MS's partners have saturated the market with bad handsets and it would seem they done have the stock to sell them either. Orange UK always seems to be out of stock on their online store.
What they seem to have is the titanic, great in theory but due to substandard build quality it will sink.
I've been looking forward to a qwerty phone for a while, had the SPV E650 with Wimo 5.0 and loved it.... but im really doubting the build of these new phones... that being said played with an Omnia 7 the other day and thought it was great....
Here's the acticle I got my info about delays from.. take a read if you like and post any thoughts you may have.
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/dell-venue-pro-delayed-in-the-uk-due-to-component-supply
We've known that for a few days, it's been discussed in other threads (the UK delay I mean).
Otherwise I totally agree with you about Microsoft being let down by manufacturers, they just went for minimum specs and we just have ok WP7 devices (a couple of 16GB phones and no 32GB, are you serious?). I am particularly disappointed in HTC as they usually create amazing phones. I guess that's why people are excited about the Venue Pro, it seems to be clearly above the rest.
2nd gen can't come soon enough.
sorry didn't realize it had been mentioned already, did look through titles but didn't see anything specific. My Bad on double posting, cheers for heads up
As for the handsets.. im starting to think Im gonna go with Omnia 7, its looking a lot more appealing and i can deal with lack of keyboard. The screen on it is beautiful.
2nd Gen is a great thing to have but I'm at end of my contract this week, so need a new phone now... also been waiting a year for WP7 to come out and starting to get a bit impatient lol.
I'm in the same position, contact ends this month and been waiting for WP7 since I can't remember. That said, got the HD7 for my wife so I at least have one around that I can play with to partly sate my hunger!!
The DVP did seem to be the perfect device that I was looking for (I struggle without hardware keyboards although I have to say that the soft keyboard on WP7 is much better than any I've used before). So annoyed that it's delayed so badly, but I think I will resist jumping in with a device that's not quite what I want, and wait for the new year, and maybe some rivals to the DVP when it finally arrives!
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I think I will resist jumping in with a device that's not quite what I want, and wait for the new year, and maybe some rivals to the DVP when it finally arrives!
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My thought exactly. I'm tempted by the HD7 because it's available now and with 16GB but really I want a Venue Pro so I'll wait... unless I import .
well im resonably happy to say that I rang orange today and got an Omnia 7 upgrade for £9.99, with good contract. Seems MS are going with Cloud storage these days which is why they handsets have small HDD's.. i can live with that along as I can get on WIFI lol..
So i will now wait untill the next incarnation of the DVP and see what that has too offer, maybe they will be on 3rd gen by then
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Seems MS are going with Cloud storage these days which is why they handsets have small HDD's.. i can live with that along as I can get on WIFI lol..(
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I have a Zune HD with 8GB of music on it, if I get a WP7 I want it to also be my Zune so I need at least a 16GB device
Bad news about the lack of memory card on this as it was the main reason I was considering it over the other WP7 devices.
Hi all
I was just wondering if you can share any comments what smartphone have best apps in 2011.
What you will buy after HD2 ?
thanks
This is a question thats on my mind at the minute as well.
The main problem for me is that Ive become so used to the 4.3" screen that I really dont think I could handle using a phone with a screen of less than 4".
Im currently torn between the DHD, Nexus S, Incredible S, Desire S or the Sensation.
Im seriously thinking about waiting until June for the sensation, my concern is the battery though. HTC seem to be pretty lax when it comes to getting optimal battery life from a phone, the sensation with its dual core and new sense (which will probably be even more of a memory hog than the old sense) is going to tear the arse out of any battery.
Theres also the issue of how long its going to take to acheive root / s-off.... (Im very impatient and will not be able to put up with sense for that long, I really dont like the android version for some reason.)
DHD, obviously very similar to the HD2 with a good amount of development going on. However, poor battery life and the age of the device put me off a little. When I upgrade I'm going to have that phone for 18 months so I feel like I should probably go for a evice thats as new as possible.
Nexus, the only thing really putting me off is the fact that its made of nasty looking shiny plastic and doesnt feel as solid as the HD2. Also not a huge selection of custom ROMS for it from what I can see, compared to some devices.
So errr yeah... lol
Well I would recommend you to watch the latest updates at MIX 11 about WP7 Mango update I think you will like it a lot. And now that DFT is bringing Custom SPL to WP7 Source: Twitter (CotullaCode)
I think Android is great, it opens many doors specially for people on XDA, but the thing is. I always think android is missing the experience. It's not fun, and it's just an OS with apps. I will use Android till the end of my contract... And when the time comes I definitely get a WP7 device. Of course an 4.3"(+) screen. Once you get a fridge phone always a fridge phone Personally I'm waiting for Nokia to join the WP7 party, I know Nokia has the best and trustworthy hardware for their phones.
I just took Nexus S, actually looks not bad but screen is noticeably smaller. I did it because I wanted to resell my HD2 while still in warranty and Samsung are offering very good discounts on the SNS in France (it costs less than the Galaxy!). When Sensation comes out and price calms down I'll resell the SNS to get that marvel. Sadly, I'm hugely missing HTC Sense...
seriously even i am kinna confused i i say i want desirehd its been already ported to hd2 & so also nexus...i hope htc comes out dual core hd2...so we can start the fun all over again i know its not possible!
But ATM its just hd2 for me!
I think HTC EVO 3D will be my next phone after HD2 TMOUS
Simple, ....Another HD2
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Well I would recommend you to watch the latest updates at MIX 11 about WP7 Mango update I think you will like it a lot. And now that DFT is bringing Custom SPL to WP7 Source: Twitter (CotullaCode)
I think Android is great, it opens many doors specially for people on XDA, but the thing is. I always think android is missing the experience. It's not fun, and it's just an OS with apps. I will use Android till the end of my contract... And when the time comes I definitely get a WP7 device. Of course an 4.3"(+) screen. Once you get a fridge phone always a fridge phone Personally I'm waiting for Nokia to join the WP7 party, I know Nokia has the best and trustworthy hardware for their phones.
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Sadly I totaly disagree with your Nokia statement - they have lost the plot in high end phones over the last couple of years.
The N8 is a software nightmare, as was the 5800 and that range of phones.
Their new mid range phone C7 - C5 have software issues.
This is not just my view I work it Mobile technical support. Nokia are no longer the top manufacturer - they do not rate the top 5 now. Use Google and read the comments from their CEO, he says about the same!
Incredible is my next phone - if my provider supply it
I think that Iphone 4 is superior for the touch screen and for the smoothness of system...Nevertheless I'm waiting for new devices of Htc like Sensation or evo 3d to make a choice...
Samsung Galaxy S 2 anyone?
I've been wondering this too. I just bought an HD2, but of course, the phone is a year old already, and smartphones are now getting 1GB RAM, 16GB internal storage, and dual core processors.
Before long, the HD2 is going to be out of date.
Personally, the most attractive aspect of the HD2 to me is how incredibly hackable it is. If I were to upgrade, I would hope whatever phone I upgrade to would have several OSes available to use too (as opposed to just several derivatives of the same OS).
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Hit the nail on the head there brother!
The HD7 is a minor temptation, but after playing with a Mozart I found that there is no connecting to a hidden network, or as a mass storage device. A shame as everything else is very nice in WP7.
So I am keeping my eye out for hot deals on HD2's
Edit: Forgot about the non-removeable/expandable storage in WP7 (I have 32Gb in my HD2)
probably getting sensation for daily driver but will be saving this HD2 because its superphone over anything, probably ever because of OS possibilities.
If there doesnt come any other better phones than sensation I will be getting it when it releases.
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Samsung Galaxy S 2 anyone?
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this or the htc sensation, im tempted to save the money and buy an s2 with the tegra 2 chip. It seems like tegra 2 will be widely supported and it'll have games optimised for it also it may lead to the phone being cracked faster.
For me there realy isnt any phone that beats HD2 (still). Im a WM6.1 ,WM6.5.x fanboy. the only hing that I miss at HD2 is harwware keyboard. but other then that it still is the perfect phone in my opinion. I never oliked phones that you get bored of quickly. HD2 has alot of development going on xda. you can have numerous OSes running on it. It never gets boring. I probably will not change my phone before there is realy something special (no, galaxy S 2 isnt special enough ).
At the moment I'm still torn between different OS's(ssssss). I've been warming to WinPho 7, but after reading over on Pocket Now about some of the things that might STILL be missing even after the Mango update later this year, I don't think I can wait. http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-mango-the-missing-features No smart dialing, no flash support in the browser? What on earth are Microsoft doing?
Having said I can't wait for Microsoft to get their act together, if I could stick a super LCD in my HD2 and a better camera sensor, I would happily keep it for another year or two until quad core chips are out and are selling at reasonable money.
The Sensation will be such a rip-off SIM-free here in the UK this summer I couldn't bring myself to buy one; there'll be much better and more efficient hardware out by the end of '11, beginning '12 ; )
G2x
Stock Android
Tegra Dual Core
4g
Supports a WIDE range of spectrums and supports ATT 3g along with T-Mobile's 4g and 3g
All screen and no keyboard.
It's literally future proof (since ATT will be eating Tmobile soon)
The SGS2 looks better than the Sensation in terms of specs?
So I've been using an HD2 for a few months, and I absolutely love it, being able to run Phone 7, Android, Ubuntu, and just having so much freedom with it. However, it is an aging device, and while it hasn't had any problems for me as of yet, I'm still considering what my next device will be. My question is: are there any phones out as of now, or to be released soon, that are/could be the next HD2? I mean, I also have a Touchpad, which as of now seems to be heading towards HD2 awesomeness, but I can't quite fit that in my pocket. Any suggestions/thoughts?
Yea I want to know too. I also have an HTC HD2 and a Touchpad. The HTC HD2 is getting really old and the battery life isn't up to par with current smartphones.
In my opinion, there will be no other phone as hackable as the HD2 with the ability to run multiple Operating Systems. Windows Phone is just starting to pickup but give it sometime as it will slowly be hackable. We got no other choice other than Android, Iphone or (Correct me if im wrong) Nokia Meego. I will just wait for next year and wait what HTC or Nokia will bring us.
Yea I've been due for a upgrade for months, just not anything I've seen worth 2years.
Well, if you guys are considering ditching your HD2s drop me a line ;-)
fmmsf said:
Well, if you guys are considering ditching your HD2s drop me a line ;-)
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Ha, I browsed Craigslist for a month waiting for a decent price one, then got damn lucky and bought one off some guy LNIB and unlocked for $85 USD. Such a great phone at a great price.
Anyways, there's that Phone 7 Nokia phone coming out soon, the Lumia I think it is? Do you guys think there's any chance for that being super hacked? It seems like a possible contender....
I don't know, I still have my nokia e71 unlocked, the first phone in the States with a front facing camera, and that was three years ago, but after a 4.3inch screen of the HD2, I cant see myself with a smaller screen. So the nokia is a no go for me.
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So I've been using an HD2 for a few months, and I absolutely love it, being able to run Phone 7, Android, Ubuntu, and just having so much freedom with it. However, it is an aging device, and while it hasn't had any problems for me as of yet, I'm still considering what my next device will be. My question is: are there any phones out as of now, or to be released soon, that are/could be the next HD2? I mean, I also have a Touchpad, which as of now seems to be heading towards HD2 awesomeness, but I can't quite fit that in my pocket. Any suggestions/thoughts?
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I have the same issue as you, one month ago; I switched on Sensation Black, a very good phone for daily usage (regardless its battery issues) but, I manage to keep also the HD2 which is the most tweak-able device I've ever used.
best regards
I'm feeling left behind now that most high end phones are dual core, and quad core are right around the corner! Not that I need that kind of power, I'm just afraid that stock Android will start to lag on the HD2 and I'll have to upgrade [ or be stuck with a slow phone :O ]
ElectroBeijing said:
So I've been using an HD2 for a few months, and I absolutely love it, being able to run Phone 7, Android, Ubuntu, and just having so much freedom with it. However, it is an aging device, and while it hasn't had any problems for me as of yet, I'm still considering what my next device will be. My question is: are there any phones out as of now, or to be released soon, that are/could be the next HD2? I mean, I also have a Touchpad, which as of now seems to be heading towards HD2 awesomeness, but I can't quite fit that in my pocket. Any suggestions/thoughts?
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Dear,
try to check the SonyEricsson Arc, it's very nice one
The Arc is a nice phone, but its not a flagship device like the hd2 was when it was first released.
As for a phone worth upgrading to, there are none that fit the bill just yet. I'm personally waiting for Qualcomm's S4 quad core CPU (2.5Ghz per core, each core running at 25% power of the snapdragon in the hd2) to be released into a phone before I upgrade. Theres quite a bit of waiting involved, however. I think the dual-core variant is already being shipped to manufacturers, and the CES conference in February should release more information.
FYI, the rumour mill is already at work regarding these chips - http://androidandme.com/2011/11/news/rumor-first-28nm-snapdragon-s4-devices-to-arrive-by-february/
First quad core device codenamed HTC Edge (running Tegra 3 quad core @ 1.5Ghz per core) - http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/11/htc-nvidia-quad-core-tegra-3/
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Dear,
try to check the SonyEricsson Arc, it's very nice one
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I actually love the Arc ROM available for the HD2, and I would consider an Arc [ or the Arc HD], only thing is that I don't think they're available to us here in the US...or is it called something else here?
WOW - that HTC Edge device looks awesome - would love a windows phone with similar spec.
Maybe last WP7 device will be next HD2? (if they switch to W8)
I don't feel the need to replace my HD2 yet, but I'm still looking after "new HD2", to see what might be worthwhile updating later. But I'm yet to see something like that.
Maybe it will come, after HD2 gets really old (when majority of games and heavy apps will not run smooth) and start loosing developers at very fast rate. After all, developers will have to go somewhere. Let's just hope that they will all move to same device.
See samsung galaxy tab sII. Number 1 in many reviews.
In fact, although HD2 is stable at android, wm6.5, wp7,
but it more like a toy...
if you need stablest communication, you may buy a nokia....
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See samsung galaxy tab sII. Number 1 in many reviews.
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Do you mean galaxy tab or galaxy s2? If first, we are looking for phone here.
And I don't care about reviews. I'm looking for must customizable and developed phone, not necessarily best one.
So far from I have seen the only other phone that looks like it might be competition is the Galaxy sII.
But, I have had a horrible experience with the last one(A true POS - the Vibrant).
Yet the new one looks pretty promising. . . . Maybe
But, I just can't swing a close to 500 Dollar price tag.
Here in the UK the SGSII is still too expensive SIM free, considering how long it has been out. If it were 50% cheaper I would buy one to tide me over...
Other than that, the jury is out for me. Every time I see a new handset announced that interests me, the manufacturer screws it up by omitting something that is important for me that I already take for granted - e.g a MicroSD card slot (Micro SDXC is the way forward - especially once I start to watch hi-def movies on my phone and stream to my tv).
I'd also like the same size screen or slightly bigger, but in a smaller device. It will happen in time I'm sure but I'm amazed how long it is taking. Why are so many OEMs are focusing solely on the thickness of the device? Okay, so the Razr (or part of it) is super thin, but it's wider than our HD2 for goodness sake!?!?
Finally.....I like buttons. There, I said it, my shame is out in the open. I remember when just about every hardware button on a device could be programmed for both short and long presses. Notification LEDs rock too. Oh dear, now I have publicly humiliated myself completely.... ; )
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Finally.....I like buttons. There, I said it, my shame is out in the open. I remember when just about every hardware button on a device could be programmed for both short and long presses. Notification LEDs rock too. Oh dear, now I have publicly humiliated myself completely.... ; )
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So true, I don't like having a single button to wake the phone up. Even the iPhone has 2.
Hi folks,
I was planing to buy the N4, but, seriously, after almost 6 months of the launch date, I don't know if it still is a great buy or if I should wait for the next wave of cellphones coming this spring (and if there are good phones upcoming).
Any clues on a better cellphone than N4 ? (I was also thinking about the Optimus, the one with the best hardware specs, but I have the same doubt, is it worth right now?)
Thanks!
I say if price is a concern then the N4 is the most bang for your buck.
I honestly did not need this thing but I am glad that I got it (coming from G2X running CM7).
Running stock unrooted (for now) and still happy (odd, I know)
Naa...
The Google I/O Come In May so wait two monthes for the X Phone or next nexus ...
From the phone that I have, I shouldn't even think and buy it right away (I'm using an old HTC Diamond touch, was using a BB but a thief robbed me 2 months ago...), but I'm not really sure if I buy it today, tomorrow I won't be sad due to a launch of a new version or really better phone, I mean, it's been around 6 months since the current generation of smartphones started (quad-cores @1.5Ghz [S4] 2GB ram), I wonder if the next gen (either 8-core or @2.5 or S5 or more ram, or even better video processors) will be launched really soon or will take at last more 6 months or so..
Anyone that has more information and is more into it, know something or have any hint on what to do ?
@Omer, that is my biggest concern, I wonder if they will really launch the next X Phone there (since they said that it isn't time yet for a new Nexus) and since I saw some news saying that the X-Phone won't be topmost hardware but will be the better price/hardware equivalency, I wonder if it will be really better than the upcoming Samsung S4 or perpahps the next gen upcoming HTC phone.
AW: [Q] Is it worth ?
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From the phone that I have, I shouldn't even think and buy it right away (I'm using an old HTC Diamond touch, was using a BB but a thief robbed me 2 months ago...), but I'm not really sure if I buy it today, tomorrow I won't be sad due to a launch of a new version or really better phone, I mean, it's been around 6 months since the current generation of smartphones started (quad-cores @1.5Ghz [S4] 2GB ram), I wonder if the next gen (either 8-core or @2.5 or S5 or more ram, or even better video processors) will be launched really soon or will take at last more 6 months or so..
Anyone that has more information and is more into it, know something or have any hint on what to do ?
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And what do you want to do with an 8 core processor and more than 2 gigs of RAM? Dude, seriously. I can't even imagine how to use the Nexus while 2 gigs of RAM or all four cores at max frequency except for weird games with, for a phone, great graphics but generally bad controls.
That said I think the manufacturers should start focussing on other things than processors and RAM. Today's generation of phones got enough resources. It seems that in the future we will see big improvements in the phones displays. See 1080p and flexible displays. Especially flexible displays could really change the way we use smart phones but I doubt we will see that in 2013.
Just wait what manufacturers show on MWC. Then think about if you really need the ridiciulous specs shown there and furthermore think about the fact that the N4 will be supported by Google for at least two years.
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First of all, it's been exactly 4 months since the release, not 6.
If you keep the mentality of "waiting for the next best thing" you'll never buy anything because there's always a next best thing around the corner. Whatever phone you decide to buy, it's not gonna be the greatest thing for more than a few months and you'll just have to live with that.
There's already the wave of 5", 1080p, 13MP phones coming out, but the reason why the N4 is still attractive is all those new phones will still cost 600+ off contract.
No one's stopping you from waiting another 6 months, but that's 6 months you could've been enjoying a good phone. I had one before and that HTC Diamond is some hot garbage.
Yep I was thinking about this 2 things too, what will be the upgrade in Phone X / next Nexus ?
Google usually do have major differences between the releases, so I'm really curious about the next phone, I'm wondering if the features that this new one gonna have will be amazing (it doens't really need to be better proc. or ram, as you said, we currently don't even use it all), but will be the next "awesome feature", and I'm worried to buy now beucase there seems to be so little time left for the next wave that really holds me back of buying it today.
Btw, @100eyes that is another concern, the price, from the leaks, and news and blabla, it seems that Phone X will be coming with a lower price basis.
The mistery on it is holding me more than anything, if I already knew some of the new features, probably I would buy today the N4 as it seem to be more than good enough for me (I have a N7 and I love the proc and all the things, and it is slower than the N4 LG)
Btw, about the release date, the wide release was 4 months agora (end of october) but the first release to a restricted public and testing public was 6 months ago, I'm talking about knowing what you gonna get and not what I'll really have my hands on in 1 or 2 months, I was planning on a max 4 months from now timegap.
Anyway, those 2 answers were pretty good, this topic is more to make a discussion of the real value than to make me decide hehe
Get the Nexus 4, you won't regret!
I say pull the trigger. coming from a G2x as well I couldnt be happier with rooted stock. All of the threads you see around here with people complaining are either
a) legitimate issues that can only be resolved by RMA. Its very possible to receive a faulty unit.
b) complete and utter retardation.
The threads complaining about "washed" out colors and other things such as that are completely bias and you really shouldnt let that effect your decision. Hope that helps!