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+1 Good thread sparksco! I'll see if I can donate the one that broke my fall. Need to see if I can work some magic to do so.
I'd love to see lithid dev for the Shift but has there been any indication that he's at all interested?
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I'd love to see lithid dev for the Shift but has there been any indication that he's at all interested?
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that kinda makes me wonder, its been a long while since he has even been online so why get the community all hyped up?
strapped365 said:
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that kinda makes me wonder, its been a long while since he has even been online so why get the community all hyped up?
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Your a day late and about a dollar short
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I'd love to see lithid dev for the Shift but has there been any indication that he's at all interested?
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I'm not sure how busy he is with his other projects now that he's joined the cm team, but we could at least get salvagemod or some other ports perhaps. I for one want salvagemod even if it is just gingerbread. I've tried to port it but well, I'm just not him...I've emailed him but I think he's interested even though I have not heard a response yet. And salvagemod does have it's own nightlies. Who knows, he could bring more then just salvagemod, but I'm not going to jump the gun and start expecting things right away.
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+1 Good thread sparksco! I'll see if I can donate the one that broke my fall. Need to see if I can work some magic to do so.
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ok, well if not we can get a charity thing going maybe? Post who wants to donate, how much ect. I'll pitch 20 bucks but not more because I'm broke right now
bumped OP and fixed development threads link.
So I was lurking in evo thread and came across this lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18431900#post18431900
Thanks Sparksco. Keep up the good work. We need more devs around here like you. Great convo on IRC with you tonight.
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ok, well if not we can get a charity thing going maybe? Post who wants to donate, how much ect. I'll pitch 20 bucks but not more because I'm broke right now
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I'd donate at least 20 to get him over here but only if he wants to and people are committed to getting him to the shift side
YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
I'd donate at least 20 to get him over here but only if he wants to and people are committed to getting him to the shift side
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Well like I said I still have yet to hear anything back from him. What would you say if someone offered you a free phone? And if we do get him a shift no one can expect anything. We can hope for the best I guess. I will even help port/compile salvagemod if need be and contribute to the projects as much as possible. I think that is what it really comes down to. Who wants salvagemod and is will to help contribute to it by at least providing logcats? I mean seriously all I ever see in the forums is people complaining but never offering anything usefull. If I'm the only person then I doubt he will want to do it...
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Well like I said I still have yet to hear anything back from him. What would you say if someone offered you a free phone? And if we do get him a shift no one can expect anything. We can hope for the best I guess. I will even help port/compile salvagemod if need be and contribute to the projects as much as possible. I think that is what it really comes down to. Who wants salvagemod and is will to help contribute to it by at least providing logcats? I mean seriously all I ever see in the forums is people complaining but never offering anything usefull. If I'm the only person then I doubt he will want to do it...
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Yeah i'd take a free phone if people were willing to donate to me. Salvagemod does seem good and i'm glad your willing to help, I've always appreciated what you've done with the shift and if i knew anything about logcats and knew how to provide them i would if anyone needed them but my computer skills are very little in the coding department as i got kicked out of college but i'm all for him coming over and trying to help out as much as possible
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Yeah i'd take a free phone if people were willing to donate to me. Salvagemod does seem good and i'm glad your willing to help, I've always appreciated what you've done with the shift and if i knew anything about logcats and knew how to provide them i would if anyone needed them but my computer skills are very little in the coding department as i got kicked out of college but i'm all for him coming over and trying to help out as much as possible
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Good tip ...for logcat, go to command prompt and type "ADB Logcat" and viloa
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notsointeresting said:
Good tip ...for logcat, go to command prompt and type "ADB Logcat" and viloa
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lol now all i have to do is set up ADB on my computer. New HDD and never set up anything for android
So I just want to share an opinion, don't take this as hating because I'm not I respect lithid like I do any developer.
That being said, I don't see the point.
First off your main argument is that he COULD bring SalavageMod.
Why do we need it in the first place? It would just clutterup our threads with another AOSP ROM. We have plenty (Cyclonic,CM7,Evervolv,Shiftdeck). As far as I know it is not our goal to be cluttering up the shift forums with countless ROMS that are basically the same with different themes
Second of all is the obvious point other people have made. Does he even WANT to. Yes, he would be a worthy person to donate a device to just based on previous expierence from him, but if he isn't as interested as other people what's the point. You just made the assumption that he would, you even said he has not replied, so until then I think this should be put on hold.
These are just my points,
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So I just want to share an opinion, don't take this as hating because I'm not I respect lithid like I do any developer.
That being said, I don't see the point.
First off your main argument is that he COULD bring SalavageMod.
Why do we need it in the first place? It would just clutterup our threads with another AOSP ROM. We have plenty (Cyclonic,CM7,Evervolv,Shiftdeck). As far as I know it is not our goal to be cluttering up the shift forums with countless ROMS that are basically the same with different themes
Second of all is the obvious point other people have made. Does he even WANT to. Yes, he would be a worthy person to donate a device to just based on previous expierence from him, but if he isn't as interested as other people what's the point. You just made the assumption that he would, you even said he has not replied, so until then I think this should be put on hold.
These are just my points,
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Salvage mod is not your standard cm7 alike... Get a clue before you waste space on a thread with dumb uninformed comments... But that's right you call yourself a dev so why don't you compile salvage mod or any rom for that matter? Because you can't... Just my two cents...
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Salvage mod is not your standard cm7 alike... Get a clue before you waste space on a thread with dumb uninformed comments... But that's right you call yourself a dev so why don't you compile salvage mod or any rom for that matter? Because you can't... Just my two cents...
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Why did you have to be such a jerkoff??? He was just stating his opinion and as such, you would THINK that people would act like a MAN instead of a little child. Your abrasive comment was not needed nor was it called for. Now I'm starting to see why people are leaving XDA, people don't know how to act correctly.
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So I just want to share an opinion, don't take this as hating because I'm not I respect lithid like I do any developer.
That being said, I don't see the point.
First off your main argument is that he COULD bring SalavageMod.
Why do we need it in the first place? It would just clutterup our threads with another AOSP ROM. We have plenty (Cyclonic,CM7,Evervolv,Shiftdeck). As far as I know it is not our goal to be cluttering up the shift forums with countless ROMS that are basically the same with different themes
Second of all is the obvious point other people have made. Does he even WANT to. Yes, he would be a worthy person to donate a device to just based on previous expierence from him, but if he isn't as interested as other people what's the point. You just made the assumption that he would, you even said he has not replied, so until then I think this should be put on hold.
These are just my points,
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Don't let one person get to you for many people (including myself) appreciate your work.
Yes he was stating his opinion just like drob was. He is right about salvagemod, but that is no reason to try to discredit salvagemod or say that we don't need more roms. What's wrong with more roms? It's a aosp rom that has very little cm stuff in it. It doesn't matter now anyways, we will not be getting salvagemod and I am not at liberty to say why. I can say people attacking is not helping devs stick to xda.
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you would THINK that people would act like a MAN instead of a little child.
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One can hope...
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Guys. Chill out with the pushing for AOSP, CM, and others to push out a GB ROM. It is completely inappropriate, and disrespectful to what everyone here has done for the community. I'm beyond sick of seeing frantic posts left and right about how "ZOMG I AM DYING FOR GB!!!!1111oneoneone" et al.
Enough is enough, please. and no, nobody asked me to post this... I'm simply fed up with that nonsense polluting threads left and right when the devs are people just like you and me. It's an insult to their talent, time, and efforts.
/soapbox
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I second eliseexige. We all want Gingerbread and, yes, most of our devs work wonders when it comes to building ROMs but we must have petience. Devs aren't magicians, they are normal human beings, most of which have jobs.
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Did you have to create a whole new thread for this? It was already said many times in the AospMod thread..
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Did you have to create a whole new thread for this? It was already said many times in the AospMod thread..
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Not everyone has the time to scour through thread AOSPmod thread. This is much more obvious.
I agree completely with OP!
Yea your right... but still it's even in the wrong section... lol but whatever it is what it is...
yeah, i did. read the thread,both actually by AOSP. it's insanity. enough is enough. the point is made, so that is that i suppose...
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I agree with the OP to some degree. Also, for all those who use the ROMs, I think that donations should be a no-brainer. However, I don't think its wrong to ask for news, we are all excited about the ROMS and are constantly checking the forums for them. I just don't see the harm in asking (demanding is one thing).
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I agree with the OP to some degree. Also, for all those who use the ROMs, I think that donations should be a no-brainer. However, I don't think its wrong to ask for news, we are all excited about the ROMS and are constantly checking the forums for them. I just don't see the harm in asking (demanding is one thing).
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There's no harm, but it's relatively pointless to ask, since rarely are there ETAs for them. Plus, it makes reading through threads to be a bit of a chore when it gets constantly bumped with people asking "When is this coming out?!?!" (also it must be really annoying for the devs).
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Yea your right... but still it's even in the wrong section... lol but whatever it is what it is...
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It may be in the wrong section - but it does get noticed more here. It caught my attention!
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only rule of Cyanogenmod should be a law.
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I hope all of the devs come into this thread and pat you on the back. Yay for you!!
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I hope all of the devs come into this thread and pat you on the back. Yay for you!!
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There's no way to say thanks to devs like posting in the wrong section.
I agree with the OP. Don't like waiting? Make ur own rom. Don't like a post? Really don't care. Enjoy the things that u get, instead of beefing about things u don't have. Enjoy.
MJK
I want a swiss colony beef log.
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Guys. Chill out with the pushing for AOSP, CM, and others to push out a GB ROM. It is completely inappropriate, and disrespectful to what everyone here has done for the community. I'm beyond sick of seeing frantic posts left and right about how "ZOMG I AM DYING FOR GB!!!!1111oneoneone" et al.
Enough is enough, please. and no, nobody asked me to post this... I'm simply fed up with that nonsense polluting threads left and right when the devs are people just like you and me. It's an insult to their talent, time, and efforts.
/soapbox
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Lol thank you xda police we are glad YOU are the voice of the people *sarcasm*
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I have actively not been working on Gingerbread.
I have yet to set up 64bit for it.
I have instead spent the entire weekend in an awesome coma due to multiple alcoholic beverages.
I did pass my finals though. It was great.
Tomorrow, I set up 64bit MM.
Ok.
Now someone move this post to general.
Decad3nce said:
I have actively not been working on Gingerbread.
I have yet to set up 64bit for it.
I have instead spent the entire weekend in an awesome coma due to multiple alcoholic beverages.
I did pass my finals though. It was great.
Tomorrow, I set up 64bit MM.
Ok.
Now someone move this post to general.
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You've done plenty of work, you deserved that coma
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hey eliseexige, i wanted to let u know i hit the thanks button for ur post. and to everyone who has been pestering CM and AOSP, STOP. ik u r every excited for GB, believe me, i am too. you shouldnt ask them for eta's, u should be satisfied with the fact that THEY ARE working on it and be thankful that they are wasting their time to bring the world (people they dont even know) a 100% working ROM for FREE.
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You've done plenty of work, you deserved that coma
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Quoting that in my sig, its just too good to pass up.
decad3nce said:
i have actively not been working on gingerbread.
I have yet to set up 64bit for it.
I have instead spent the entire weekend in an awesome coma due to multiple alcoholic beverages.
I did pass my finals though. It was great.
Tomorrow, i set up 64bit mm.
Ok.
Now someone move this post to general.
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:d now this i like :d
You people that are requesting everything on gods green earth just relax. Froyo just dropped yesterday. I'm sure the devs don't want to be up all night porting your theme request, and apps.
Just be thankful that we have froyo. Everyone *****ed about not having froyo. Now your just overloading the forums of request. Just give it time it will come.
Thanks devs for all the work. Happy with a stock froyo !!!
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sent from my fascinating fascinate eating delicious froyo.
I agree brotha! Hell, im loving the vanilla experience alone!
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I approve.
+1 wait for our devs to bring us great things for froyo. If what your looking for is not there in the next weeks or months, then ask.. There is a great possibility that they already know what froyo needs.. I'm sure voodoo and a proper cwm will be first on their list... Then cleaning, fixing, and getting rid of the verizon spy..
Just give them some coffee money to keep them on the fascinate band wagon..and hope it keeps them from jumping on the new dual core phones coming out soon
Thanks jt and kaos!! Good work and thanks to all the rest that I don't know the names of
Rocking dj05 and jt's voodoo 5
Agree completely. I saw requests yesterday evening on the forums, which is absurd. You can't expect the devs to get a froyo leak working AND release a complete library of froyo themes and ROMs on the same day. I'm sure within the next few weeks there will be MORE than enough ROMs and themes to go around.
If anything they deserve a thank you thread for what they do! Not request
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Just because someone requests something does not mean they expect it, much less immediately. Perhaps there have been some rude people who did give off such an attitude, but it's hardly fair to lump the properly appreciative and understanding folks in with them.
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Just because someone requests something does not mean they expect it, much less immediately. Perhaps there have been some rude people who did give off such an attitude, but it's hardly fair to lump the properly appreciative and understanding folks in with them.
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It still doesn't matter. Its not the time. Just relax. I'm sure the last thing the devastate wanna read is requests. How about some thank you threads. It hasn't even been a full day
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You people that are requesting everything on gods green earth just relax. Froyo just dropped yesterday. I'm sure the devs don't want to be up all night porting your theme request, and apps.
Just be thankful that we have froyo. Everyone *****ed about not having froyo. Now your just overloading the forums of request. Just give it time it will come.
Thanks devs for all the work. Happy with a stock froyo !!!
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+1 I've been watchin these forums for a little over a month just waitin for froyo... Im thrilled ****less in 3 days from the official 2.2 leak and we're going to have what 4 diff ROMS... I dont think devs mind bug reports the first while, then maybe some suggestions. If your going to request I'd suggest attatch that to a donation towards there time and hard work...
Blue Froyo
The Nook Color has Honeycomb, where is mine...
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It still doesn't matter. Its not the time. Just relax. I'm sure the last thing the devastate wanna read is requests. How about some thank you threads. It hasn't even been a full day
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Actually it does matter. Attitudes like this and "angry mob" threads will just scare people off or prevent them from posting for fear of being pounced on. Not the best way to foster a community. And I can't speak for XDA as I rarely post here, but PLENTY of people on another board I frequent have not been shy with their praise of devs and contributors. Just because there aren't specific threads for it doesn't mean no one gets thanked
But anyway just my two cents. You may all resume burning effigies.
on a lighter note, nitsuj is a beast at theming, cranking out a couple themes mere hours after the leak went up.
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on a lighter note, nitsuj is a beast at theming, cranking out a couple themes mere hours after the leak went up.
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Man I agree! Hes being going crazy with froyo..
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rigglemania said:
Actually it does matter. Attitudes like this and "angry mob" threads will just scare people off or prevent them from posting for fear of being pounced on. Not the best way to foster a community. And I can't speak for XDA as I rarely post here, but PLENTY of people on another board I frequent have not been shy with their praise of devs and contributors. Just because there aren't specific threads for it doesn't mean no one gets thanked
But anyway just my two cents. You may all resume burning effigies.
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You are reading way into this.
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You are reading way into this.
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That's entirely possible, and if I've offended anyone then I do apologize, I just don't see the harm in people (politely) requesting ports of this or that theme. It gives the devs/modders a good idea of what's popular and therefore what to focus on if they feel so inclined.
If the offense scares noobs from posting where's my froyo? I'm willing to do it.
I'm tired of the honeycomb and gingerbread threads...
If it scares them to simply searching and reading threads, than I'm willing to take the hit as an offensive member... It's rediculous how many noobs think they are obligated. If someone needs help, they can follow the proper channels rather than posting on development forum where everyone is eagerly waiting for the latest and greatest...
i dont see a problem with request.. we all love what we have.. but i believe request are an idea.. now ya gingerbread and honeycomb, thats pretty absurd but i believe ppl are giving ideas asking questions.. thats what forums are about right?? we all appreciate what the devs do.. they doo everything.. make all of our hacking dreams come true and its awesome!! and im def down for thank you threads.. they deserve more than that.. any devs in ohio, ide gladly buy u a beer.. but forums are for discussions. ppl should be able to say what they want without being criticized, unless there ridiculous(gingerbread honeycomb)
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i dont see a problem with request.. we all love what we have.. but i believe request are an idea.. now ya gingerbread and honeycomb, thats pretty absurd but i believe ppl are giving ideas asking questions.. thats what forums are about right?? we all appreciate what the devs do.. they doo everything.. make all of our hacking dreams come true and its awesome!! and im def down for thank you threads.. they deserve more than that.. any devs in ohio, ide gladly buy u a beer.. but forums are for discussions. ppl should be able to say what they want without being criticized, unless there ridiculous(gingerbread honeycomb)
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This I agree with, I see no harm in people requesting themes, like someone else said it is good to know what is popular, it's not like most are trying to demand it or expect it to happen immediately.
People asking about Gingerbread and Honeycomb is a little crazy, while I think they should search but it really doesn't bother me all that much. Worse case scenario answer them or don't.
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This I agree with, I see no harm in people requesting themes, like someone else said it is good to know what is popular, it's not like most are trying to demand it or expect it to happen immediately.
People asking about Gingerbread and Honeycomb is a little crazy, while I think they should search but it really doesn't bother me all that much. Worse case scenario answer them or don't.
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exactly.. if you dont like what you see.. ignore it.. plain n simple.. but im not 100% on this but isnt honeycomb a tablet only interface??
I handed off CyanogenMod 6/7 work to other developers, transition is successful i wish you guys luck and have fun!
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I handed off CyanogenMod 6/7 work to other developers, transition is successful i wish you guys luck and have fun!
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wait... what?
I guess you're leaving for good (again)?
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wait... what?
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He gave all his work to the cyanogenmod team and is probably leaving for good... but I don't know completely
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Peace
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noobnl said:
I handed off CyanogenMod 6/7 work to other developers, transition is successful i wish you guys luck and have fun!
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LOL....they started CM7 without your help, starting from scratch and to my knowledge avoided referring to your "work"
And from the looks of it, they've accomplished more in 2 days than you had in weeks...
Oh, and this new thread isn't really necessary is it?
ScientificOne said:
LOL....they started CM7 without your help, starting from scratch and to my knowledge avoided referring to your "work"
And from the looks of it, they've accomplished more in 2 days than you had in weeks...
Oh, and this new thread isn't really necessary is it?
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Nah man regardless just got to the developer section and see how many topics are started by noobl or reference him. Dude is important on these forums and we which him the best because lets face it he did a lot of good around here.
ScientificOne said:
LOL....they started CM7 without your help, starting from scratch and to my knowledge avoided referring to your "work"
And from the looks of it, they've accomplished more in 2 days than you had in weeks...
Oh, and this new thread isn't really necessary is it?
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noobnl has done more for the epic than most people on this forum have, and only a handful of developers have contributed equal or more. most of the people who post here and make roms simply theme a few files and call it developing. what you need to understand that even though they have cm7 booting, noob had cm6 booting months ago, that isn't the hard part. the hard part is getting the radios and data to work, noob did this with help from very few people, and it took a long time (because he largely did it by himself minus help from skeeterslint forcystos and a few others) but so far not ONE other people have managed to accomplish this task.
:middlefinger:
I wish him the the best, and also we don't know what happened behind closed doors, metaphorically speaking. So lets just leave it at this.
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The proper reply to this post is "Thanks for all your hard work and dedication noobnl! i hope you decide to help out more in the future"
ScientificOne said:
LOL....they started CM7 without your help, starting from scratch and to my knowledge avoided referring to your "work"
And from the looks of it, they've accomplished more in 2 days than you had in weeks...
Oh, and this new thread isn't really necessary is it?
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You probably shouldn't run your mouth (fingers?) without learning a bit of history, not-so-ScientificOne. As others have stated, noobnl has contributed much of the early work that current development is built upon...
noobnl, thanks for the work you did to get us this far!
Appreciate your work man. I'm sure your sweat equity will be beneficial to everyone in getting this off the ground.
Thanks for all the hard work you put into both the CM6 project and the Epic as a whole. Your efforts have gotten us really far in this game. Even for the stuff you indirectly accomplished, like gaining the attention of some of the more seasoned devs, so that we could get more stuff done.
You're definitely a great resource and this community is better for it.
I hope I'm as cool as noobnl when I grow up.
+1 thanks.
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ScientificOne said:
LOL....they started CM7 without your help, starting from scratch and to my knowledge avoided referring to your "work"
And from the looks of it, they've accomplished more in 2 days than you had in weeks...
Oh, and this new thread isn't really necessary is it?
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High level of douchebaggery in this post.
Anyways, like everyone else said, thanks for all your work and contributions
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Thanks for everything you've done, its appreciated... how long until you come back??
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I hope I'm as cool as noobnl when I grow up.
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I hope I never grow up ;-)
Thanx for all of your past work noobnl, hope to see you back contributing someday...
sent by an Epic4g through the cosmos
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You probably shouldn't run your mouth (fingers?) without learning a bit of history, not-so-ScientificOne. As others have stated, noobnl has contributed much of the early work that current development is built upon...
noobnl, thanks for the work you did to get us this far!
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My post may have been a little harsh, but obviously you don't know what you're talking about. In regards to CM7, the team of Dameon and others aren't relying on what noobnl has contributed. In fact, who do you think this blog post was aimed towards?
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/a-note-on-unofficial-ports-and-how-to-get-it-right
Dameon and others are trying to get it done the "right way".
It appears, to me at least, that noobnl is attempting (by starting this thread) to get some kind of credit for the work they're putting together, which is probably very little, if any. And if any, I'm sure he'll get the credit he deserves.
Sure, noobnl has done a lot for the community, I for one certainly appreciate it, but that's not what this thread is about now is it?
hmmm, so sounds like we have two dev-groups working on CM now because I'm pretty sure the recently announced group working on CM7 basically said straight up they had yet to even look at noobls progress bc it wasn't actually CM worthy and bc they started group up.
so using logic we can see that noobls 'transition' is to a different group. to bad he won't enlighten us on who that other group is. imagine that, half a statement that tells us not much at all and then some "look at me and what i did" statement, as usual.
Please stop with the dumb comments against the devs. This is totally uncalled for and should stop now. I am someone who really enjoy's coming to this site. I come here to read, learn and always am looking for new fun things to flash.
IMO all the devs here are amazing and remember they do this all for free, They dont have to give us nothing but they give us amazing Roms, Kernels and Themes to make our phones better and allows us to customize it how we like. You are all entitled to an opinion but if you have nothing nice to say then you should'nt say it. Dont start crap because your Rom hasnt been updated in a few days, you know the devs are working on it and will release it after its been tested. I know i want something tested before i flash it and i would think you would also. So lets remember we all are here for the same reasons and i would like to make sure the devs know we appreciate them and all they do for us. I dont want devs to start getting pissed and say forget you all so lets try being nicer to them.
Sorry for this but this is just my opinion and i hope you all would agree with me.
^^^Absolutely agree
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+2 absolutely agree. If you don't like how the devs are, STFU and go AWAY. They do amazing things for us. Period.
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Not meant as a rant, just my POV
Why, Why would anyone who is a member or user of XDA, bash on the Developers?? This is ASININE!! The developers here have made your devices so much better than they are stock. they spend countless hours fixing what the carrier and manufacturer screwed up in the first place and pawned off on us as GOOD STUFF Every time I have Questions or Issues with something it has been a developer who helped me, so in return they get all my support. Then I take what I already knew and what I learn here and apply it to helping other who are not at the level i am yet. So if this forum is dedicated to making things better for your devices and your understanding of those devices and its OS, which they MOST definitely ARE, why not show support and ask for help if something is going wrong or you don't understand, most of us are truly here to help. Instead of complaining and bashing do some research and find out how to help yourself, who knows, you might get so addicted to it you become a developer yourself.
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Why, Why would anyone who is a member or user of XDA, bash on the Developers?? This is ASININE!! The developers here have made your devices so much better than they are stock. they spend countless hours fixing what the carrier and manufacturer screwed up in the first place and pawned off on us as GOOD STUFF Every time I have Questions or Issues with something it has been a developer who helped me, so in return they get all my support. Then I take what I already knew and what I learn here and apply it to helping other who are not at the level i am yet. So if this forum is dedicated to making things better for your devices and your understanding of those devices and its OS, which they MOST definitely ARE, why not show support and ask for help if something is going wrong or you don't understand, most of us are truly here to help. Instead of complaining and bashing do some research and find out how to help yourself, who knows, you might get so addicted to it you become a developer yourself.
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Thank you... It's nice to see people are agreeing with me on this.
Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Also, remember to not be frustrated when they can't instantly solve a problem. There is a reason that they make the roms, and you don't. Most people are busy.. maybe they have a job, family, and/or school. The fascinate really has talented people working on it. We are some of the lucky people that flash new toms and kernels without a locked bootloader.
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you know the sad thing about these people, is that they come back.
Could not agree more. There is no need for any slinging in here.
I also get bummed when I sere people *telling* themers what to change.
None of us has to be anything outside of stock. If you opt to participate in the progress, great, enjoy. But know that the guys that build out owe you nothing.
You have it because THEY are awesome.
And OP, I love that you made a thread for this. :thumbup:
Swyped...
Best post I've read in a long while.
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Excellent post.
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Wait, so I can't demand faster updates and better support for all the money that I'm NOT paying? You mean to tell me that I can't catch attitude with the devs who are doing all of this for free? Are you trying to suggest that I can't complain about the bleeding edge software/firmware and a**kicking mods that we get from them when Samsung and Verizon wouldn't walk across the street to piss on our heads if we were on fire? Are you implicating that I don't have the right to leave criticizing posts and berate the devs when this awesome stuff isn't exactly to my liking? Especially when it's user error and all my fault? To sum it all up you're basically saying that it's wrong for me to be an a**hole and totally ungrateul when I've contributed absolutely NOTHING to this community? That's it! I'm getting an iPhone and I'm leaving!
Lol! Great post man! For real! 100% AGREE!
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Great post fitti...and on that note...remember to donate to those you use. It takes so much time to do this kinda stuff, we should at least buy em a beer.
Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer? The only bashing i have ever seen in the fascinate forum was of people who post things that are obviously not their own work. A lot of comm rom supporters used to have bad attitudes towards nitro for including tsm parts in his rom, but he has gotten rid of those now so there is no reason to be mad at him.
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Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer?
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I've no idea what he's referring to either.
And the use of the prefix, "[ANNOUNCEMENT]" for this self-righteous rant seems rather pretentious.
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Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer? The only bashing i have ever seen in the fascinate forum was of people who post things that are obviously not their own work. A lot of comm rom supporters used to have bad attitudes towards nitro for including tsm parts in his rom, but he has gotten rid of those now so there is no reason to be mad at him.
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I think this thread was started in response to chronster's comments in your Crysis Revolution thread about Community ROM being broken and your theme not being made for other ROMs.
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Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer? The only bashing i have ever seen in the fascinate forum was of people who post things that are obviously not their own work. A lot of comm rom supporters used to have bad attitudes towards nitro for including tsm parts in his rom, but he has gotten rid of those now so there is no reason to be mad at him.
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Well there has been people coming into the posts and complaining that this Rom or theme hasnt been updated. i mean i am all for the newest updates to any of the Roms, themes, launchers and anything you all do for us. So basically i was just trying to put it out there that anyone who is not contributing to any dev or mods should just be patient and in time all their ROMS, Themes, CWM and everything that you all do will get done. I was just getting tired of people demanding stuff, i mean come on if you want something bad enough and you can't wait then oh well learn to do it yourself. There are plenty of people waiting for Comrom v 2.0 and they will have to wait until it has been tested and released, when it is it will be awesome b/c these good people who have jobs and lives outside of this posts are willing to do amazing stuff in their free time. I know your Tw4 is going to be awesome and you do amazing work.
I just want everyone to be nice to you all as they should be showing their appreciation instead of sometimes being asses to some of the devs. I didnt enjoy my phone when i first got it and now i love it because of all that you all do... I just wanted you all to know it and i hoped everyone else agrees with me.
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I think this thread was started in response to chronster's comments in your Crysis Revolution thread about Community ROM being broken and your theme not being made for other ROMs.
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Landshark you hit the nail on the head. Thank you for that.
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Landshark you hit the nail on the head. Thank you for that.
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Well, remember the troll from that thread blamed his lack of meds as the problem.... yeah I didn't buy it either.
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Our devs rule and everyone knows it. Anyone who would bash them is clearly a troll or an idiot, or both, and shouldn't be paid an ounce of attention.
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Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer? The only bashing i have ever seen in the fascinate forum was of people who post things that are obviously not their own work. A lot of comm rom supporters used to have bad attitudes towards nitro for including tsm parts in his rom, but he has gotten rid of those now so there is no reason to be mad at him.
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yeah it wasnt just chronster though....if you actually want to bang your head against the wall there are dozens of lousy comments in the com rom thread about "this rom is broken, why release this..blah blah"
really irritating
Hey Epic Community,
I'm starting up a donation fund that will allow us to buy Samsung Epic for a CM7/MIUI developer. Several members including me have pm'd devs like cyanogenmod and toastchf. As we are waiting confirmation, I thought we start off the donation drive in meeting our goal. Also fusingblackrose in the miui.us forums is also helping with a ASOP kernel for the epic. If you think there are other devs in the XDA community willing to help us out please let me know and I will see if they will support the Epic if we donate one to them.
Currently a used Epic on ebay is around $125 -/+ $10 at a good price.
If you are going to donate to this worthy cause please reply with how much and I will keep this OP updated! Again, this is a community effort! Any and all donations are welcomed. Once we meet our target number of about $125, I will set up Paypal link for everyone to donate.
Current Donors:
omair2005 -$10
lynyrd65 - $10
shiroimin -$10
Ceelos09- $10
jdelano -$10
anonymous donations
Total: $60+
how are you getting an epic for 125 dollars?
edit: nevermind i see you put ebay. going back to my hangover
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how are you getting an epic for 125 dollars?
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Whatever is cheapest on ebay i guess..
http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Samsung-Gal...&_sticky=1&_trksid=p5360.c0.m299&_sop=1&_sc=1
You ignorant nitwits. I am a CM developer.
Bringing someone in who doesn't know the hardware would just set them back even further.
And trust me when I tell you this, I've exhausted a lot of the resources in #teamdouche to attempt to get somewhere.
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Hey Epic Community,
If you are going to donate to this worthy cause please reply with how much and I will keep this OP updated! Again, this is a community effort! Any and all donations are welcomed. Once we meet our target number of about $125, I will set up Paypal link for everyone to donate.
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I'll do a 10 spot as well.
Decad3nce said:
You ignorant nitwits. I am a CM developer.
Bringing someone in who doesn't know the hardware would just set them back even further.
And trust me when I tell you this, I've exhausted a lot of the resources in #teamdouche to attempt to get somewhere.
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hey Decad3nce, in no way am I trying to belittle your efforts and achievements because you have done a lot of work.. but this whole situation started out with several members wanted MIUI really bad. as miui/cm7 use same asop kernel, we thought a donating an epic to another dev would speed up and help your efforts?
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You ignorant nitwits. I am a CM developer.
Bringing someone in who doesn't know the hardware would just set them back even further.
And trust me when I tell you this, I've exhausted a lot of the resources in #teamdouche to attempt to get somewhere.
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I think they just assume that since your team isn't blabbering away on some cm7 thread that all plans have been abandoned.
Just let them be deca...there will be a lot of eggs on a lot of faces once you guys finish it. That alone should be plenty of motivation.
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hey Decad3nce, in no way am I trying to belittle your efforts and achievements because you have done a lot of work.. but this whole situation started out with several members wanted MIUI really bad. as miui/cm7 use same asop kernel, we thought a donating an epic to another dev would speed up and help your efforts?
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No it won't. It really won't.
I've personally exhausted half of teamhacksung in an attempt to refactor the gpio pins. toastcfh is and will always mainly be an msm arch guy, samsung epic is a completely different platform; he'd have to learn a whole new set up.
In case of MIUI "developers", they wait until we have our work done, and have a device repo merged into CM until they decide to support the device. They just take our work and merge it into their repo and start cranking out builds.
This **** you guys are doing is getting on my last nerves man. I know your intentions are good and you mean well, but god damnit. Money doesn't buy you support.
Patience.
If you want to check my credentials, and continue to belittle my work and step all over my credence in this matter. Go for it.
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hey Decad3nce, in no way am I trying to belittle your efforts and achievements because you have done a lot of work.. but this whole situation started out with several members wanted MIUI really bad. as miui/cm7 use same asop kernel, we thought a donating an epic to another dev would speed up and help your efforts?
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FYI, no such thing as an AOSP kernel.
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I think they just assume that since your team isn't blabbering away on some cm7 thread that all plans have been abandoned.
Just let them be deca...there will be a lot of eggs on a lot of faces once you guys finish it. That alone should be plenty of motivation.
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I mean this is a community of epic users. Not everyone knows whats going on with CM7 dev. and its hard to find answers unless you search through threads not even pertaining to epic cm7 or irc which i'm never on. A simple thread explaining what has and hasn't been done would make matters much more clearer. Also what harm would it do if we get one more dev on board?
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I mean this is a community of epic users. Not everyone knows whats going on with CM7 dev. and its hard to find answers unless you search through threads not even pertaining to epic cm7 or irc which i'm never on. A simple thread explaining what has and hasn't been done would make matters much more clearer. /QUOTE]
They tried to have a thread about CM7 development and after two different threads fell to trolls and people *****ing about not having CM7 there probably won't be another until a major breakthrough happens.
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Quit while youre ahead guys... its been done. Listen to Deca, he knows the stuff. Just wait for source code and be patient. I dont want to lose another dev, specially one like Deca.
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You ignorant nitwits. I am a CM developer.
Bringing someone in who doesn't know the hardware would just set them back even further.
And trust me when I tell you this, I've exhausted a lot of the resources in #teamdouche to attempt to get somewhere.
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Lol. As I am someone who is now a bit older than most on here, I have learned patience. I think some of the younger people on here don't have the patience and get more restless every time another phone gets Cyanogen. My name is on a donation list and I haven't even gotten paid yet..lol. I think the donation fund was started with the best intentions but we haven't hit a wall yet. Nullghost, DevinXtreme and Deca have repeatedly said they need the Gingerbread source to make things several times easier. Until that point comes and an impass is reached, we are kind of pissing into the wind. I can understand Deca's frusteration because, in a way, its like saying that our devs aren't good enough to get the job done. I don't think that's the case at all.
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No it won't. It really won't.
I've personally exhausted half of teamhacksung in an attempt to refactor the gpio pins. toastcfh is and will always mainly be an msm arch guy, samsung epic is a completely different platform; he'd have to learn a whole new set up.
In case of MIUI "developers", they wait until we have our work done, and have a device repo merged into CM until they decide to support the device. They just take our work and merge it into their repo and start cranking out builds.
This **** you guys are doing is getting on my last nerves man. I know your intentions are good and you mean well, but god damnit. Money doesn't buy you support.
Patience.
If you want to check my credentials, and continue to belittle my work and step all over my credence in this matter. Go for it.
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man i didn't think raising money would get you this vexed! If donaters agree, I can completely end the donation drive or we can gladly donate it to whatever you think fits best. You are most knowledgeable when it comes to this..
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Lol. As I am someone who is now a bit older than most on here, I have learned patience. I think some of the younger people on here don't have the patience and get more restless every time another phone gets Cyanogen. My name is on a donation list and I haven't even gotten paid yet..lol. I think the donation fund was started with the best intentions but we haven't hit a wall yet. Nullghost, DevinXtreme and Deca have repeatedly said they need the Gingerbread source to make things several times easier. Until that point comes and an impass is reached, we are kind of pissing into the wind. I can understand Deca's frusteration because, in a way, its like saying that our devs aren't good enough to get the job done. I don't think that's the case at all.
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haha yeah i know you are waiting to get paid.. list is potential donors. but i'll probably end the fund before it takes off
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omair2005 said:
I mean this is a community of epic users. Not everyone knows whats going on with CM7 dev. and its hard to find answers unless you search through threads not even pertaining to epic cm7 or irc which i'm never on. A simple thread explaining what has and hasn't been done would make matters much more clearer. /QUOTE]
They tried to have a thread about CM7 development and after two different threads fell to trolls and people *****ing about not having CM7 there probably won't be another until a major breakthrough happens.
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yes I just read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16147166&postcount=24
So i see where dec is coming from.. once again I meant no disrespect starting this donation fund.
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haha yeah i know you are waiting to get paid.. list is potential donors. but i'll probably end the fund before it takes off
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Oh hey man, I know you have good intentions and all but I do see the other side as well. Since the Epic is my first smartphone I have never even gotten to try Cyanogen or Miui before. I am sure they are great and I look forward to the chance to try both. I am sure it won't be much longer.
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Sigh... I really wish people would read more..
The real reason we don't have cm7 is not because of gb source... (if that were the case we SHOULD have had cm6 already), but the fact that samsung has poorly documented drivers for their hardware, and we are stuck guessing/emailing the actual hardware providers for chip layouts and certain calls and actions... HTC and other phones have all of that information well documented and the makers of the phone will actually help you instead of just saying "IDFK" cyanogenmod, miui, and aosp are all in the same boat as they all coincide with each other. It is bs because I know that unless we get this information, we probably won't ever get a fully functioning AOSP Kernel/rom... now, I took programming classes in college and I know the steps to developing something and how it works, but the gentlemen working on these ports asdfghjkl, ahgmsk, Decad3nce, epicCM team and more really do know their stuff. However, I really do think we need proffesional help. At this state, no amount of money, no amount of bickering, and no amount of ETA asking will help these things be developed... All they can do.. is wish and hope that the gb source will help.
Well the idea behind the donations I think is that many of our devs have either jumped ship to other phones or are banned from XDA, so new devs could help.
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Lol. As I am someone who is now a bit older than most on here, I have learned patience. I think some of the younger people on here don't have the patience and get more restless every time another phone gets Cyanogen. My name is on a donation list and I haven't even gotten paid yet..lol. I think the donation fund was started with the best intentions but we haven't hit a wall yet. Nullghost, DevinXtreme and Deca have repeatedly said they need the Gingerbread source to make things several times easier. Until that point comes and an impass is reached, we are kind of pissing into the wind. I can understand Deca's frusteration because, in a way, its like saying that our devs aren't good enough to get the job done. I don't think that's the case at all.
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Honestly, the source is right around the corner...