possible ram problems, back to the past? - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General

Hi
Anyone is having ram problems ?
On S2 I always have about 400 in use even with 400 apps installed the worse condition was about 200 free, but on note most of the time with less than 20 apps from market I am having about 160 free.
I fear the moment that I install all the old ones and see again the ram memory problems of first android phones and the need to get back the task killers, configure autostarts and all of that crap that I forgot with the S2.

kersh said:
Hi
Anyone is having ram problems ?
On S2 I always have about 400 in use even with 400 apps installed the worse condition was about 200 free, but on note most of the time with less than 20 apps from market I am having about 160 free.
I fear the moment that I install all the old ones and see again the ram memory problems of first android phones and the need to get back the task killers, configure autostarts and all of that crap that I forgot with the S2.
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Android is designed to fill as much memory as it can with apps, so free space generally isn't a concern at all. In fact, in theory you should only be concerned if you DO have a lot of memory free.
Tasker, however, did complain when it didn't think I had enough memory free.
- Frank

The problem it isn't that android use alls, the problem it is that if you don't have enough free all the device will be slower.
why?
Becuase you have all the ram used in programs and if a new one needs more memory, like for example the browser, he will try first to delete others data and then copy her data to the ram and this will make the devices slower. Then we will have another situation, when the program can't delete others data so he can't use the ram and we will get memory notification problems and a slower device that fails to run some programs.
And 150mb free it is very little, some browsers uses about 100/150mb or games or any other apps, so I think it is a situation to be really concerned about.

I've rooted and frozen several apps from Samsung including the TouchWiz Launcher, I've installed a bunch of apps and RAM can be up to ~430mb once I've killed all tasks. I use two task killers (Process Manager & Advanced Task Manager) and I have the latter auto-kill tasks in 30 minute intervals.
But if you've installed 400+ apps, I'd think that would somewhat affect the RAM count.

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Unable to open more than 3 apps

For some reason I am unable to open more than 3 apps at a time. When I open a 4th one of the others close. I am running iLauncher 3.1 and wm6.1 pro. Is it possibly a setting in iLauncher which is causing the problem.
Yes it´s possible.
Also check how many free RAM you have.
I assume you have 64Mb Universal, which leaves you with low RAM if you are running a lot of stuff.
Any home app (spb, titanium, etc) will eat a considerably amount of RAM, try disabling.
Hope it helped,

[Q] Memory Management (Appkiller)

Hello,
Even though I am on Android 2.2 I am not satisfied by the way it handles memory allocation and management. Applications and processes I used 2-3 days ago are still there and taking precious space.
Are Appkiller applications recommended ? If yes then which one should I get.
I am a bit cautious because I have read about appkillers that on Froyo they are detrimental to the way the OS works and slows it down even more.
Any other tips and settings how I can make my phone have a lot more free memory and free space faster ?
Cheers,
MJ
mjehan said:
Hello,
Even though I am on Android 2.2 I am not satisfied by the way it handles memory allocation and management. Applications and processes I used 2-3 days ago are still there and taking precious space.
Are Appkiller applications recommended ? If yes then which one should I get.
I am a bit cautious because I have read about appkillers that on Froyo they are detrimental to the way the OS works and slows it down even more.
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No, appkillers will cause you problems, Android is actually quite good with it's memory management and all appkillers tend to do is kill off apps which the system then restarts for further info please Read, IMO I can't believe that you are running short of memory on your DHD unless you've a huge number of background tasks running
I also used a taskkiller on my DHD for some time until i figured out that it eats up the battery. (~10% / hour). I removed it and it was all good.
I think 2.2 does quite a good job in memory handling and there is no auto killing of applications necessary, except if a application freezes up and won't close or something like that.

Memory and Performance Query

I have one question again. Supposed i have a low phone memory due to so much application installed, will it affect my phone performance, coz i noticed that my phone lags with almost full apps installed in it, I wonder if low phone memory that affects the performance of my phone or bcoz of the running apps simultaneously. One thing after i uninstalled the apps from memory card it still has the folder left in it, is it safe if i remove it manually? Is that the cache? Where is the program files in the memory card where the application is so i can delete the uninstalled apps?
Thanks in advance. Lab2 guys.x0x0
having multiple apps running on your phone will slow it down because each app uses tge phones processor and RAM (random access memory) to function and at different times or circumstances they use different levels of both, leaving multiple apps running leaves tge phone without much memory to get through basic functions such as texting or playing music with ease, there is a simple, easy and free way to solve your first problem, go into your android market and look up "advanced task killer" download the free version and it will show you what is running and how much of your RAM is available and you can stop all the apps from running by just clicking "kill selected apps" and your phone will run alot smoother
as for your second issue, theres nothing to worry about, those folders just contain information the apps that you have previously installed, have downloaded, you can delete them without risk of any damage
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so even tho my phone memory is full that doesnt affect the performance of my phone right. i only have 43mb left in my phone memory and its a big laggy to respond. Thanks much. x0x0
or instead using of Advance Task Killer, use Fast reboot to improve battery life. You'll be more enlighten if you visit this site [FIX] Drain Battery Fix for CyanogenMod.
You should worry about how much specific app uses your cpu not ram, less free ram = faster phone.
So try to determinate wich apps are using your cpu and kill tham.
Ignore this post if youre using eclair
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Thank you guys for the sweet response. BTW it works i think the prob is my spb3d launcher that makes my phone lags.
Install System application and kill processes from there.

[Q] iconia tab amount of free ram is too little

i thought honeycomb tablets have 1 gb of ram ( ~770 in reality) so I thought I would be multitasking quite well. But my icona usually have about 200 ram free when I check it in a task switcher. I hear other people with other tablets have more than 500 mb free or at least near that amount. I rooted my tab and deleted some system apps that I don't use so that they dnt run in the background, but still my free ram is very low. Just to let you know, I have about 2 pages of apps in my app drawer with all the system apps such as gmail included. I don't think that's too many.
Will installing a custom rom fix this issue? Any help is appreciated!
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and I would like to know also that installing a custom rom will make this tablet faster when switching between apps. It becomes very laggy sometimes doing that. Also right now on stock rom, I sometimes have even around only 150mb free ram. That's like 256mb ram on a smartphone..
Might want to use Advanced Task Killer By reChild
It was the only way to keep 300 ram free.. i would love 770 free
Lets see IF they ger windows 8 tablet edition on here.....How much would we have....1/16 of 1gb xD
yea the maximum I get is about 350mb after killing all the tasks. At the very first right after killing everything, its a little bit more than 400, then it keeps decreasing because of the closed services starting to run again. I once saw a video review of touchwiz on galaxy tab 10.1 and in the task manager, the free ram was over 600 out of 7xx. I couldn't believe it. Of course nothing was running, but when mine doesn't run any apps I have about 350mb. As I said I dont have that many apps..I didn't want to install custom roms and wanted to keep mine as stock as possible, but IF a custom rom will help will free ram issue, I am willijg to install one. Or if there is any other solution, please let me know! Oh and right now, I have a gmail and a web browser with 1 tab open, and I only have 264mb ram left. Please help if you know how to solve this issue..
Androids memory model causes it to cache very vigorously. The amount of RAM free is pretty much a worthless number because the system automatically relaxes the cache when the system is lower on memory, so programs don't get rejected RAM requests.
netham45 said:
Androids memory model causes it to cache very vigorously. The amount of RAM free is pretty much a worthless number because the system automatically relaxes the cache when the system is lower on memory, so programs don't get rejected RAM requests.
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Yea I know about that, but because of that, multitasking is not really good on this tablet...I really need help on this issue..
netham45 said:
Androids memory model causes it to cache very vigorously. The amount of RAM free is pretty much a worthless number because the system automatically relaxes the cache when the system is lower on memory, so programs don't get rejected RAM requests.
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+1
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sw6lee said:
Yea I know about that, but because of that, multitasking is not really good on this tablet...I really need help on this issue..
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There is no issue here, it's working just fine. If it didn't cache anything, then it'd take 30 seconds longer to load an app. As I said, if your system is low on ram, it'll automatically release as much as required to maintain the system from the cache. It's not causing any hit on multi-tasking, in fact, it helps keep the programs loaded and in cache so they switch faster.
I think you are saying that android system kills the app that's not as much used that's running in the background, so that the system cannot run out of memory. If you are really saying this, I already know it.. or maybe you are saying something different. What I'm saying is that BECAUSE the system kills background app to run a newly opened app if memory is too little, when I reopen that killed app, it has to reload again, and that affects effective multitasking. If it kills the browser, then all the tabs has to reload again, and it's so annoying..I have to have browser with 2 to 3 tabs, a dictionary, pdf reader, word document, and sometimes more, and I thought with 1GB RAM tablets, this would be easy to handle. If there are about 500 MB RAM free when nothing's open, then it could be possible to use all those apps without any one closing due to low memory, but I only have about 350MB free when nothing's open. I prefer not to install custom ROM, so I rooted with 'Iconia Root' app, then deleted some bloatwares, then unrooted again with the app. I thought this would help a lot, but it didn't..I probably didn't uninstall all the system apps that's useless. I don't know what AcerNidus (I'm not sure if this is correct) is, and some other acer apps that I should keep and I should delete..I would like to keep receiving updates, so I shouldn't delete something like system updater, but I don't know what else I should keep and delete. Thank's for trying to help me though. If anyone know, could you guys tell me what system apps should I delete, so that I will have the most free ram, run smoothly, keep getting acer updates, an not void warranty? Thank you so much!

[Q] What is the best RAM cleaner?

Hy.
What is best RAM cleaner for Android 4.3? My RAM is always about 700-800 MB (I play games, watch videos, use facebook so everything what is eat the RAM) on my S4. But after I reboot my phone it is about 1200 MB. So how can I fully clear the RAM without a reboot?
your system is cleaning RAM so you don't have to think about it..................best cleaner is no cleaner at all :good:
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Couldn't agree more.
Those apps are designed to Hoover money from suckers. Android manages RAM just fine itself; it doesn't like 'free' RAM. Thing is people are used to Windows managing RAM badly/not releasing RAM when programs are exited/etc, so when they see low free RAM in Android they think they need to free some up/use an app to do this.
If you constantly free RAM up in Android, rather than having apps ready to go based on your usage patterns which Android does normally, it has to start apps completely from scratch, and you will end up using more battery long run as a result.
Lewis0214 said:
Hy.
What is best RAM cleaner for Android 4.3? My RAM is always about 700-800 MB (I play games, watch videos, use facebook so everything what is eat the RAM) on my S4. But after I reboot my phone it is about 1200 MB. So how can I fully clear the RAM without a reboot?
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As mentioned above the system is designed to manage RAM itself by freeing up as and when required. But if you want to quickly refresh you could use the built-in task manager (hold home button) to close all open apps. Theres also Greenify (search play store) which hibernates apps and prevents them from running constantly in the background using up resources, its not as harsh as a "RAM cleaner" as it works more with the way processes and services are handled by android.
And just a command?

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