How to fix... - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

ive rooted all my previous android phones and was thinking about doing my mt4g..
however, when i hold the vol down and power button on startup it takes me to my hboot just fine but when i go to recovery to do a backup of my stock rom it shows a phone image with a red caution sign. the phone was bought brand new 2 weeks ago

trmixing said:
ive rooted all my previous android phones and was thinking about doing my mt4g..
however, when i hold the vol down and power button on startup it takes me to my hboot just fine but when i go to recovery to do a backup of my stock rom it shows a phone image with a red caution sign. the phone was bought brand new 2 weeks ago
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Well, you haven't root yet so what kind of recovery were you expecting? You can't make a backup of the stock ROM until you've rooted and installed a custom recovery.

TeeJay3800 said:
Well, you haven't root yet so what kind of recovery were you expecting? You can't make a backup of the stock ROM until you've rooted and installed a custom recovery.
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if you've never rooted an HTC before, you have to obtain S-off and root before you flash a custom recovery on. the stock recovery image is the one you're seeing.

saranhai said:
if you've never rooted an HTC before, you have to obtain S-off and root before you flash a custom recovery on. the stock recovery image is the one you're seeing.
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Yes, thank you. I have a little experience with phones.

Follow this guide and you'll be fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996

TeeJay3800 said:
Yes, thank you. I have a little experience with phones.
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lol sorry.
just trying to help this guy out haha

saranhai said:
lol sorry.
just trying to help this guy out haha
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I know, I just made that comment because you quoted me, instead of the person who had the question.

o ok, see there are many other phones that dont have to do all this.. all my old phones i just used z4 or another single button root and installed rom manager did a back up and flashed.
this phone has 2.3.4 so i have to downgraded and all that.
whats the best rom currently that everything works!
i was reading that cyanogenmod 7.1 wifi teathering isnt working ...

trmixing said:
o ok, see there are many other phones that dont have to do all this.. all my old phones i just used z4 or another single button root and installed rom manager did a back up and flashed.
this phone has 2.3.4 so i have to downgraded and all that.
whats the best rom currently that everything works!
i was reading that cyanogenmod 7.1 wifi teathering isnt working ...
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wifi tethering, works just fine got me on cm7.1 . I was even able to xbox live from it.
From my fist to your face, enjoy!

trmixing said:
o ok, see there are many other phones that dont have to do all this.. all my old phones i just used z4 or another single button root and installed rom manager did a back up and flashed.
this phone has 2.3.4 so i have to downgraded and all that.
whats the best rom currently that everything works!
i was reading that cyanogenmod 7.1 wifi teathering isnt working ...
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WiFi Tether works with any ROOTED OS.
The Best OS with everything working the stock one that T-Mobile issues you. Everything else is a port, or a development project, so they all will have bugs from time to time.

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One click root - DOES work on myTouch 3G

There was a locked thread in development where someone asked if it would work. A lot of people replied (obviously without even knowing what they are talking about) that it wouldn't work.
it DOES work on the myTouch 3G's - I just did it on one.
It works on any android phone - but the current apk implementation flashes the 1.4 cyanogen recovery image so it only works on phones that image will boot (i.e. the HTC Dream, or the Sapphire... etc)
It's way easier to apply that than it is to apply the nbh downgrade... etc.
Cool
I posted the question in a wrong area im glad someone with a mytouch tried it i bricked my first mytouch
Worked
This worked for me also I am now on CyanogenMod v3.9.11.2 and it works very well.
TY Cyanogen!
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Works...but hesitant
This definitely works on the MT3G just tried it...whew glad it worked Still extremely hesitant on flashing new rom though. Dont know why even though I have a rooted G1. Perhaps I just love this phone too much to f*#$ it up
RyeBrye said:
There was a locked thread in development where someone asked if it would work. A lot of people replied (obviously without even knowing what they are talking about) that it wouldn't work.
it DOES work on the myTouch 3G's - I just did it on one.
It works on any android phone - but the current apk implementation flashes the 1.4 cyanogen recovery image so it only works on phones that image will boot (i.e. the HTC Dream, or the Sapphire... etc)
It's way easier to apply that than it is to apply the nbh downgrade... etc.
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Now that I think about it...If you just use this to get the recov img the MT3G still has the "perfected" spl. So exactly will this allow you to flash any new ROMs? That is why the "goldcard" was used to trick it and flash to an earlier "non-perfected" spl which would then allow you to flash ROMs updated radio etc etc etc. Shed any light on this?
I know there can be risks when doing any kind of modding/hacking. What is the main risk with rooting the MT3G? Is it mainly an issue with the battery falling out or running out of juice? Or is the rooting process invasive enough (i know it is root = can touch everything) or unstable enough that there is a relatively high probability of an issue running the canned procedure?
I have my phone, love it, my wife would kill me if I wrecked it. I just want to know how likely I am to end up with a brick using this method.
Also a question to understand this procedure, if I run the apk and reboot normally then there is no lasting root, correct? I have to go into the recovery mode and flash over a new rooted rom for root to become permanent? Does this actually change the SPL on the MT3G, does it preserve the ability to flash other roms at any time in the future? I want to know if this is a one time open up your phone for rooting or if after I do this will I always have root.
Sorry for all the questions, but I have been lurking around and haven't found definitive answers to these questions. Thanks!
Dave
Dave, Ive used this method. However if you didnt notice in my previous post...the spl does NOT change. Which is why I questioned the ability to flash any ROMs. The more "complicated" method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547133) requires a "goldcard" with an earlier version of the spl. Which I believe allows flashing to occur.
Yeah, I saw your post after I posted. I think this is great for a simple root I am thinking to have future rooting I will need the goldcard method anyway.
It would seem that this method should be able to modify the SPL since it is able to run as root, maybe not though...
I did mine last night and now doing my wifes MT3G and I was comparing cyanogen's vs stock and its night and day...no loading screen issues with cyan's build and keyboard response got better too...
LOL yeah Ii was thinking about the SPL if we can change it out? I kinda want to call my phone semi-rooted
so anyone flash a new spl/radio using this one click root? success? or no?
bobzoz said:
so anyone flash a new spl/radio using this one click root? success? or no?
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Still waiting on this one also hehehe haven't seen anyone do it yet!
im debating on getting a mytouch if i can get full root in just a few clicks hmmmm definatley a positive haha. hows the mytouch work in recovery terminal? since theres no hardware keyboard?
bobzoz said:
im debating on getting a mytouch if i can get full root in just a few clicks hmmmm definatley a positive haha. hows the mytouch work in recovery terminal? since theres no hardware keyboard?
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just use the trackball to select what you want...cant use console though (ALT-X)
Works
bobzoz said:
so anyone flash a new spl/radio using this one click root? success? or no?
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Just did it...1.33.2005/ also S-off. this is definitely legit and makes things a hell of a lot more easier than all those damn adb commands. Dont get me wrong at all I do appreciate all the work that was done by Haykuro and the other boys because without them Im sure this wouldnt be possible. Anywho...it works.
Okay. As newb as one can get with phone mods, etc. But it actually works. I dont know what the exact benefits of it are but I am running... Mod version CyanogenMod-3.9.11.2 per about phone. All my downloads are gone but it worked. I dont know what the difference/any limitations is for down the road, in comparison to the gold card method (I hope none), with this type of root but hey it actually worked and I would have kick my own a$$ if I bricked my phone. Thanks to folks who found this way and are their any "rooted" differences now that I am on cfw using this method for say updating to cyanogens 4.0 eventual release?
Alright, I took the plunge and it worked flawlessly!
I use the 1 click install via the market app called Recovery Flasher. I installed CyanogenMod 4.0.1 Stable. Zoom zoom zoom...
I thought I may have had an issue when I rebooted after flashing since it sat at the MyTouch 3G splash for a ton longer than normal. I had read it was normal for the first boot to take longer so I didn't freak out and pull the battery. I just let it come up and now I couldn't be happier.
If I remember reading correctly CyanogenMod has the fix for the root vulnerability used in this hack to root plugged. So, now that I have a rooted ROM and recovery 1.4 will I ever need to worry about having the dreaded "Perfect SPL?"
so easy a caveman could do it! a thousand times, thank you.
so its confirmed you can FLASH a different SPL with no problem ? cuz if so im gettin a mytouch ! lol
go for it
bobzoz said:
so its confirmed you can FLASH a different SPL with no problem ? cuz if so im gettin a mytouch ! lol
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go to town boss...now i need to get out of the stupid hero boot loop.
Thanks. I also took a chance since I got my Touch for free by Timo mistake. Couldn't resist. Aside a few apk not able to install everything works fine. Noob question, can I now format sd card?
Oh, thanks for Quick Office.

Rooted phone issues

I used the one click rooting process from the theunlockr and have RA-magic-v1.2.3H Recovery image and I can acces the recovery mode and all...
Yet, apps keep telling me that I dont have rooting access or priviledges =(
Whats going on?
please help me!!!! =(
Rosco911 said:
please help me!!!! =(
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What rom are you running ?
ronni.rasmussen said:
What rom are you running ?
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Original from Rogers... Havent installed any ROMs because this problem showed up!
If you can access the recovery image, you can flash any ROM that you want. That Rogers original ROM must not be rooted, so you have not root access.
skhell said:
If you can access the recovery image, you can flash any ROM that you want. That Rogers original ROM must not be rooted, so you have not root access.
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Ok, so to be able to have root access, i need to flash to a ROM? even when I already did the rooting stuff?
Oh ok. I was scared I wouldnt be able to flash to another ROM cuz this applications were telling me I had no root access even when I rooted already.
But wait, if i flash my Rogers Magic, wont I have bluetooth isues and market issues and all of that?
Rosco911 said:
But wait, if i flash my Rogers Magic, wont I have bluetooth isues and market issues and all of that?
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Depends on the rom new hero roms shouldn't have any BT issues but some have problems with protected apps from the market. But just find a rom you like and read what issues the rom might have and find one there cover your needs.
Thanks a lot for ur help

Sprint Hero rooted, now what?

Sorry if there is a list or thread about this already. I am pretty new to the Android OS and I'm wondering what's the next thing to try with this phone.. I have rooted the phone (tested with screen print utility), now I'm just wondering what else I can do with this rooted beast.
jtadeo said:
Sorry if there is a list or thread about this already. I am pretty new to the Android OS and I'm wondering what's the next thing to try with this phone.. I have rooted the phone (tested with screen print utility), now I'm just wondering what else I can do with this rooted beast.
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Well, did you flash a recovery image?
I am going to bit the bait...First of all I know nothing about android, what a recovery image is or for, or such.
Anyways, I followed directions, and believe I have flashed a recovery...how can I tell? this is what I followed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4899722&postcount=17
Wasney said:
I am going to bit the bait...First of all I know nothing about android, what a recovery image is or for, or such.
Anyways, I followed directions, and believe I have flashed a recovery...how can I tell? this is what I followed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4899722&postcount=17
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Well, if you didnt receive any errors then just type in reboot recovery in adb shell or shut the phone off and then hold in the home button and the power button. The phone should reboot with the htc logo and then it will load recovery. Once in recovery you can do a nandroid backup which will create a complete image of the phone. This is good in case anything goes wrong with any future changes. You can also partition the sd card to prepare it for apps2sd. And finally when roms are created you can flash the new roms with the recovery image.
how did you guys root it?
thorracing1 said:
how did you guys root it?
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By READING
thorracing1 said:
how did you guys root it?
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Thor, there's a number of threads that talk about rooting now.
There's a step by step guide in this forum, and in the android development section of the hero area on the forums there's another that talks about the "one click" method that's been setup for us (flashrec). If you go to theunlockr.com ( http://theunlockr.com/2009/11/07/how-to-root-your-cdma-htc-hero-sprint-verizon/ ) and follow instructions there, it will also walk you through it.
It can take a moment but taking the time to do a bunch of research and looking around at both the past GSM hero rooting as well as the new CDMA rooting will ultimately answer a lot of questions that might otherwise come up.
I'm assuming wifi tethering does not yet work on the rooted CDMA Hero.
themyst said:
I'm assuming wifi tethering does not yet work on the rooted CDMA Hero.
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I'm not sure why it wouldn't...?
EDIT: I just got around to the rest of my tabs and see that most aren't able to make it work. Like root, it's only a matter of time now though.
i think i rooted lol even tho i dont c anything different :S
is there any new roms or anything else out for this phone what about led colors can they change colors yet?
thorracing1 said:
is there any new roms or anything else out for this phone what about led colors can they change colors yet?
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I think there is an app for changing led colors. As for new roms, I am working on one. I am brand new to rom development so I may be quitting that side of things soon but we will have to see. I am basically just trying to merge the CDMA parts of our hero with Modaco's GSM hero rom. If I can do that then maybe I can port other things. Like I said, we'll see.
yea i just rooted my hero im still trying to get app2sd to work do you happen to know what app it is?
can someone see if the setcpu or overclock widget works?
yea they work as far as i know i downloaded them and it all works so yea
Shall I do a CDMA MoDaCo Custom ROM?
P
modaco said:
Shall I do a CDMA MoDaCo Custom ROM?
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That would be awesome! I think you shall!
modaco said:
Shall I do a CDMA MoDaCo Custom ROM?
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That would be awesome. I was trying to port your rom over but I am new to this. I would love to learn from your rom.
yea you should make a rom please
modaco said:
Shall I do a CDMA MoDaCo Custom ROM?
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Yes please! I have read that your ROMs are the $hiznit.

Bought N1 on eBay - how to "unroot?"

Yes, I know. Why do I want to unroot? Well, the AT&T Nexus One is stuck on 2.1 update 1 and the baseband of the phone is unlocked.
How can I return to bone stock so that I receive all OTA updates. I'm good with what google pushes out and really don't want to fool with homebaked updates.
Thanks!
Read my signature, follow "unroot/restore" guide.
Your bootloader has been unlocked, not baseband. So follow the guide for unlocked bootloader. Use FRG83G ROM straight from HTC.
Thanks. Doing this now.
Actually, do I just follow the "fastboot" method and that's it?
Yes. Having unlocked bootloader makes things easier...
Jack_R1 said:
Yes. Having unlocked bootloader makes things easier...
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How so? I'm not really certain I am good with the method in the FAQ. I'm not familiar with adb and fastboot. In fact, I have no idea how to do these methods.
I am googling and reading as much as I can, but it's a bit intimidating. Any video walkthrough or idiot proof document that shows exactly what to type, etc?
Sorry, I'm just not as into this as most here (but I'm very eager to learn).
ericshmerick said:
How so? I'm not really certain I am good with the method in the FAQ. I'm not familiar with adb and fastboot. In fact, I have no idea how to do these methods.
I am googling and reading as much as I can, but it's a bit intimidating. Any video walkthrough or idiot proof document that shows exactly what to type, etc?
Sorry, I'm just not as into this as most here (but I'm very eager to learn).
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Try and follow these instructions, I think it may be the easiest way for a beginner. It doesnt unlock boot loader but it roots your phone and gets 2.3 on it. Good luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11087674#post11087674
arastamon said:
Try and follow these instructions, I think it may be the easiest way for a beginner. It doesnt unlock boot loader but it roots your phone and gets 2.3 on it. Good luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11087674#post11087674
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Thanks.
The phone I have already has an unlocked boot loader (there is an "unlocked" lock image below the nexus image upon reboot).
I believe returning to stock is as easy as downloading a factory N1 image, re-naming it to update.zip (or is it passimg.zip?) and running it from the boot loader...right?
I'm actually afraid to do this for fear of bricking this thing. All I want to do is go to a stock version of Android from the current 2.1-update1 Build EPE54B rom that came with this N1 so I can OTA up to the current 2.2.2 (or whatever) official google version is out. I'd like to go OTA from here on out, which the phone will not do now (stuck on 2.1 and saying "your software is up to date").
Is it as easy as what I suggested or am I a mega-noob?
Sorry for giving you the wrong info, I miss read the thread. I havent ever unrooted would hate to give you the wrong advice on the proccess. Sorry Im not more help
Since you are rooted and nervous about bricking your phone you can do this.
Flash a custom recovery if there is not one already on the phone via rom manager. Then in rom manager back up your rom (nandroid) . There is even a stock rom in rom manager that you can download and install all in rom manager. That will put the default recovery back as well. The phone will then the OTA's to the latest one.
Or you can just flash any other rom etc. It is really hard to actually brick the phone.
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Thanks. Downloaded the Rom Manager, and guess what? The phone isn't rooted (I don't know anything about it .... just received it used from eBay).
The boot loader is definitely unlocked though and it's stuck on 2.1.
I will figure out the one-click root and go from there. Is that the best advice?
ericshmerick said:
Thanks. Downloaded the Rom Manager, and guess what? The phone isn't rooted (I don't know anything about it .... just received it used from eBay).
The boot loader is definitely unlocked though and it's stuck on 2.1.
I will figure out the one-click root and go from there. Is that the best advice?
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I would go that route if I was you. It is very quick and simple and noob friendly. You could also use the guides the other posters put up to learn some things as well.
Not sure why your phone is "stuck" at 2.1 in the first place. But yeah rooting/rom manager should do the trick quickly and easy.
Turns out I was able to install superuser, so it's rooted. Not sure why Rom manager complained about it not being rooted.
This is a pain in the ass so far. I will just try to flash to a ~light~ 2.3 ROM. Don't want a bunch of battery draining stuff. Recommendations?
Also, I still want to go to bone stock so I can get google OTAs. Oh well. Maybe I'll figure it out one day.
ericshmerick said:
Turns out I was able to install superuser, so it's rooted. Not sure why Rom manager complained about it not being rooted.
This is a pain in the ass so far. I will just try to flash to a ~light~ 2.3 ROM. Don't want a bunch of battery draining stuff. Recommendations?
Also, I still want to go to bone stock so I can get google OTAs. Oh well. Maybe I'll figure it out one day.
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The 2.3 ROMs aren't really "ready" yet, and I don't know if I would really recommend them to a new user. Very buggy. If you can get ROM Manager to work (which should be as easy as installing it from the Market if you have root), then go to "Download ROM" and find your way to CyanogenMod 6.1.1. It will ask you if you want to install gapps as well, and you should select yes.
Once a phone has been unlocked and had custom roms installed on it, there's no way to ever go back to completely stock with OTA updates unfortunately. CyanogenMod is probably the cleanest and most supported rom you can find, but another would be Enomther's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427).
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The 2.3 ROMs aren't really "ready" yet, and I don't know if I would really recommend them to a new user. Very buggy. If you can get ROM Manager to work (which should be as easy as installing it from the Market if you have root), then go to "Download ROM" and find your way to CyanogenMod 6.1.1. It will ask you if you want to install gapps as well, and you should select yes.
Once a phone has been unlocked and had custom roms installed on it, there's no way to ever go back to completely stock with OTA updates unfortunately. CyanogenMod is probably the cleanest and most supported rom you can find, but another would be Enomther's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427).
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Thanks. Well, I'm a total idiot. My passion.zip was passion.zip.zip. Nonetheless, the FAQ .zip original image file was "older than the currently installed version."
I'm done. I'm just going to play in the rooted 2.3 world. Currently downloading CyanogenMod's latest nightly for passion.
So, I am curious. Does this file I'm downloading update the radio and everything else? I'm certain the firmware versions for the radio, etc, are outdated.
Thanks.
EDIT: On second thought, is there a large reason not to go with a nightly? The latest stable version is two months old...I want clean and fast with minimal battery drain, etc.
You can always go back to stock and get the OTAs from Google. Only thing you can't do is relock the bootloader. ALWAYS can do it.
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ericshmerick said:
EDIT: On second thought, is there a large reason not to go with a nightly? The latest stable version is two months old...I want clean and fast with minimal battery drain, etc.
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The only reason not to go with the nightly build is stability. CM7 isn't ready for general use yet, and there are a lot of problems still. Last time I used it the phone app was almost completely unusable and would lock up whenever someone called. It doesn't hurt to try it out though. You can always flash something else if it's not stable enough for you.
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You can always go back to stock and get the OTAs from Google. Only thing you can't do is relock the bootloader. ALWAYS can do it.
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Nope, this isn't true. Once the signed boot loader is replaced, there's no more OTA's. You can get the notification that an update is available, but they wont install. Once the clockwork or ra_recovery are installed, OTAs will never work again. There is currently NO way to go back to 100% stock on a Nexus One.
Jesus. I'm going to jump off a bridge.
I successfully installed the STABLE CM6 update (radio update, google apps). My GD N1 keeps rebooting.
WHERE can I find a stable 2.2.2 or 2.2.1 stock ROM and end this madness. All I want to do is use this phone. It's currently possessed.
(I'm beginning to think it's defective...)
ericshmerick said:
Jesus. I'm going to jump off a bridge.
I successfully installed the STABLE CM6 update (radio update, google apps). My GD N1 keeps rebooting.
WHERE can I find a stable 2.2.2 or 2.2.1 stock ROM and end this madness. All I want to do is use this phone. It's currently possessed.
(I'm beginning to think it's defective...)
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its not defective and at this point its just a matter of time until you fix it.
If you still want to be stock, ignore below and follow the links to restoring the stock rom above.
a) do you have a custom recovery installed? (i.e a nice navigable menu) if not flash one from a terminal/shell (on your desktop) in fastboot mode (power+trackball to start the phone, choose fastboot)
b)since you dont have much to lose, wipe everything after rebooting into recovery mode.
c)flash any ROM that works with your phone. (the LCD nexus ones need a different version I think)
When you install a stock rom it overwrites the custom recovery everytime it boots. It always does this. The unlocked boot loader is irrelevant the OTA's.
He or anybody else can flash a stock rom and get the ota.
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ericshmerick said:
Jesus. I'm going to jump off a bridge.
I successfully installed the STABLE CM6 update (radio update, google apps). My GD N1 keeps rebooting.
WHERE can I find a stable 2.2.2 or 2.2.1 stock ROM and end this madness. All I want to do is use this phone. It's currently possessed.
(I'm beginning to think it's defective...)
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Try this: http://www.shipped-roms.com/downloa...le_WWE_2.16.1700.1_FRG33_MFG_Shipment_ROM.zip

A little help with a defy mb525 (soc) please!

Just bought one of these for £15.
But now am unsure of the safe/correct way to move from stock 2.2 to a more upto date OS..
Advise and working links would be great please..
PS rooted and did the second boot thing.
UPDATE not a SOC but Bayer
lohtse said:
Just bought one of these for £15.
But now am unsure of the safe/correct way to move from stock 2.2 to a more upto date OS..
Advise and working links would be great please..
PS rooted and do the second boot thing.
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I have the same problem as you... Rooting is the easy part.
Then, whenever I try installing a new update, my phone tells me it can't.
MatB
MatB7 said:
I have the same problem as you... Rooting is the easy part.
Then, whenever I try installing a new update, my phone tells me it can't.
MatB
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I tried flashing twrp which worked but then tried to flash msginger 5.1 and just sat there at a black screen ... just moving a way from damn 2.2 would be a start
MatB7 said:
I have the same problem as you... Rooting is the easy part.
Then, whenever I try installing a new update, my phone tells me it can't.
MatB
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Ok so have now got it working....
here's what I did.
flashed twrp from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...mple-guide-android-2-2-to-kitkat-4-4-t2897465 direct link to twrp is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48501247&postcount=1250
then I flashed ms2ginger from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140839
let it boot and run to make sure alls well
and finaly flashed android 4.2.2 from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768702
you could probably miss the ms2ginger but I felt it was safer to do it to confirm all was well etc..
hope that helps

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