Anybody have any idea if ics will be compatible with the atrix?
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2 threads down from this one is a thread already about this.
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That thread is about the face recognition software, it doesn't answer my question.
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Ramsport said:
That thread is about the face recognition software, it doesn't answer my question.
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Bunch of discussion about whether or not it will work on the Atrix (ics). But whatev.
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Ramsport said:
That thread is about the face recognition software, it doesn't answer my question.
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Let's put it this way, the Nexus S will be getting ICS, and the Atrix basically has twice the specs. So the Atrix on paper can support ICS.
The bigger question is how the carriers are going to allow this?
Bottom line, whether it's OTA or CM7 we will see ICS in some fashion on the Atrix...
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ccrows said:
Let's put it this way, the Nexus S will be getting ICS, and the Atrix basically has twice the specs. So the Atrix on paper can support ICS.
The bigger question is how the carriers are going to allow this?
Bottom line, whether it's OTA or CM7 we will see ICS in some fashion on the Atrix...
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Agreed, I know that the Atrix will get this in some sort of fashion, the only thing that I "worry" about is the finger-print scanner. I wonder if this will delay the Atrix from getting it sooner, since it is a completely unique device. I just hope the FPS doesn't get left out.
Engadget said most ginger bread devices should get the ota
Ramsport said:
Anybody have any idea if ics will be compatible with the atrix?
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If you did your research properly instead of posting another one of those threads that's people go through again and again, you would definitely know the answer by now.
Have a good day or night.
twayneo said:
Engadget said most ginger bread devices should get the ota
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Source?
I know google had mentioned that devices currently running gingerbread would be able to run ICS (hardware-wise). Its still up to the manufacturers to create those OTA updates...
Of course will be totally compatible with Atrix! Nexus doesnt have a hardware so different to Atrix! This is the difference between Apple and Google. When Apple says about iOS, they put a date and always launch a public final one week later. Now, Android its a blah blah, all depends of third person, its a shame an OS that grows up like this and have like half of customers in world, they treat us like this. shame!
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Source?
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He posted the source. Engadget!
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CaelanT said:
He posted the source. Engadget!
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In that case, I read on Engadget that the Atrix will be the first phone to get ICS. Even before the Nexus. Should be pushed sometime tonight.
quicklyspent said:
In that case, I read on Engadget that the Atrix will be the first phone to get ICS. Even before the Nexus. Should be pushed sometime tonight.
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Ha. Im running it now.
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I read somewhere (no source: read at your own risk) that ics is made for omap processors and Tegra devices (ie. Atrix) will take a while longer to develop... At least through official channels - here's hoping to official CM support!
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jivester024 said:
I read somewhere (no source: read at your own risk) that ics is made for omap processors and Tegra devices (ie. Atrix) will take a while longer to develop... At least through official channels - here's hoping to official CM support!
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That would semi sorta explain why Atrix 2 went and put a TI-OMAP Processor in their phone. Interesting.
jivester024 said:
I read somewhere (no source: read at your own risk) that ics is made for omap processors and Tegra devices (ie. Atrix) will take a while longer to develop... At least through official channels - here's hoping to official CM support!
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Wrong. Just like how honeycomb's designated SoC was Tegra 2, the designated SoC for ICS is the OMAP 4. IE Google determined that they were the best SoC available at the time and built their flagship device using that particular processor. It has nothing to do with porting android to various SoCs.
the olympus o2x aint gettings ICS it seems
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308493
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2 threads down from this one is a thread already about this.
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You are so right. Thread closed.
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Well, now that most of us have FroYo, I thought that we might be lacking something to WILDLY speculate about... sooooo GINGERBREAD ANYONE!?
Some of our friends in Europe already have gingerbread on their Galaxy S's, so the question is, when do we get ours?
Now I know that it took us over six months to get FroYo, but that was due to some sort of disagreement with Verizon and Samsung (most likely over Bing). However, since we now have 2.2, I would *assume* that they have gotten past that and that any future updates we get will most likely come in a more timely fashion.
If things go accordingly, and Samsung and Verizon play nice, then I would assume that we would be getting gingerbread around September or October (based on how long it took FroYo to be distributed to other carriers).
What do you guys think?
P.S. I'll post any major updates that appear in the media.
Penis.
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Avelnan said:
Penis.
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Grow up.
OP: I think the gingerbread update is going to take even longer than froyo because the gx2 and the charge are going to be out. Samsung is most likely going to update those before they even think about us.
Unfortunately, the truth is: we don't know when the heck Gingerbread is coming for the Fascinate. And with Samsung's somewhat random updates, its really hard to guess even a general date.
If we can get CM7 and maybe officially supported by CM. who cares about stock GB. If JT and PK's work becomes bug free, and it looks like they have done great job, I think we might see gold.
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Penis.
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You win. See also, no trolling.
Legato525 said:
If we can get CM7 and maybe officially supported by CM. who cares about stock GB. If JT and PK's work becomes bug free, and it looks like they have done great job, I think we might see gold.
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You want official gingerbread because you want source and a. 35 kernel
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If we can get CM7 and maybe officially supported by CM. who cares about stock GB. If JT and PK's work becomes bug free, and it looks like they have done great job, I think we might see gold.
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Having the source code from the gingerbread specifically designed for our phone would make our build of CM even more stable.
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Grow up.
OP: I think the gingerbread update is going to take even longer than froyo because the gx2 and the charge are going to be out. Samsung is most likely going to update those before they even think about us.
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Main reason the Droid Charge will get Froyo before the Fascinate: The Droid name.
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WAT IS GINgERBREADS?
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Main reason the Droid Charge will get Froyo before the Fascinate: The Droid name.
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So... who wants to form a petition to change the name of the Fascinate to something that includes "DROID"?
My vote is the "DROID Wolfpack". Perhaps this requires another thread..
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So... who wants to form a petition to change the name of the Fascinate to something that includes "DROID"?
My vote is the "DROID Wolfpack". Perhaps this requires another thread..
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How about the Droid Orphan, cuz that's what it's felt like sometimes. The only thing keeping it going has been the adoption by this community of devs.
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Main reason the Droid Charge will get Froyo before the Fascinate: The Droid name.
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Completely untrue. The droid name means nothing. Carrier and manufacturer are the same. Hardware is the exact same as a the fascinate other than the fact that it has a 4g radio. Its a last gen phone in the very beginning of a new generation... No one cares about it. If anything, its twice the orphan than the fascinate was.
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WAT IS GINgERBREADS?
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Do you live in a mountain ?
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garywojdan81 said:
How about the Droid Orphan, cuz that's what it's felt like sometimes. The only thing keeping it going has been the adoption by this community of devs.
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But you see, the large dev community is the WOLFPACK! So it makes sense ...okay maybe I should drop this subject before I get attacked by a tiny chinese man jumping out of the trunk of a car..
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Completely untrue. The droid name means nothing. Carrier and manufacturer are the same. Hardware is the exact same as a the fascinate other than the fact that it has a 4g radio. Its a last gen phone in the very beginning of a new generation... No one cares about it. If anything, its twice the orphan than the fascinate was.
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Completely wrong, sammy has a total different hardware than any phone available... they make their own parts, even the screen and i think even the cables and other things.... so never compare a sammy to a motorolla or what ever
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Completely wrong, sammy has a total different hardware than any phone available... they make their own parts, even the screen and i think even the cables and other things.... so never compare a sammy to a motorolla or what ever
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Isn't the Droid Charge also made by Samsung?
Just sayin..
Psh with I/o tomorrow Ice cream sandwich should be the topic of discussion
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Completely untrue. The droid name means nothing. Carrier and manufacturer are the same. Hardware is the exact same as a the fascinate other than the fact that it has a 4g radio. Its a last gen phone in the very beginning of a new generation... No one cares about it. If anything, its twice the orphan than the fascinate was.
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How much do you want to bet the Droid Charge will see Gingerbread and more minor updates than the Fascinate just because it's in the Droid lineup? Both phones are nearly identical when it comes to software. Nearly every phone in the Droid lineup has had great support(except for the Eris and maybe the Pro).
I honestly don't think the fascinate will ever see gingerbread in any sort of official way.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/2...osphere-comparisons-to-other-devices-as-well/
This means Stratosphere will come out soon. That will help us on MIUI and CM7 etc, because it's kernel source will help us.
Also, same specs as epic.
Same CPU and gpu combo? If that even matter
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Same CPU and gpu combo? If that even matter
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I assume so.
From the specs it's almost the same as the Epic except for LTE instead of WiMax
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From the specs it's almost the same as the Epic except for LTE instead of WiMax
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Exactly. That should help us a lot
fixed link: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/2...osphere-comparisons-to-other-devices-as-well/
looking forward to this!!
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fixed link: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/2...osphere-comparisons-to-other-devices-as-well/
looking forward to this!!
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Thanks. Not sure why that happened.
Awesome! Glad I wasn't the only one who was looking forward to this phones release. Hopefully it'll get us some help with building/porting stuff, as well as some helpfull Devs that might be willing to lend our community a hand
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I remember my old moment got its second life and froyo that was ported from the transform, it would be pretty sad though if we could get a ported gingerbread only weeks from official release though.
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I remember my old moment got its second life and froyo that was ported from the transform, it would be pretty sad though if we could get a ported gingerbread only weeks from official release though.
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weeks from official release? that can only be a rumor.. we may not get it for months?!
I thought it was funny that they didn't include that the epic came with a 16 gb. Sd card. Lol
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I thought it was funny that they didn't include that the epic came with a 16 gb. Sd card. Lol
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I thought I was the only one who noticed that lol
How about 720p video recording. Its suppose to only have 480p.
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I just want CM7 on our Epic and if it comes by way of official GB for our Epic or from getting the things we need from the Stratosphere version of GB, then I'll be happy. As long it can tie me over until the Prime or SGS III, I will be satisfied.
It's all software
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How about 720p video recording. Its suppose to only have 480p.
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I think that's just a software limitation and it could be fixed by modifying the kernel settings.
For example, when I had my HD2 with stock Windows Mobile 6.5, the maximum recording resolution I managed to get was ~ 640x480 .
with hacked Android 2.3 installed (Ported from the Desire) it jumped to 800x600!.
with hacked Windows Phone 7 (Ported from the HD7) it jumped to 1280×720!!!.
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/2...osphere-comparisons-to-other-devices-as-well/
This means Stratosphere will come out soon. That will help us on MIUI and CM7 etc, because it's kernel source will help us.
Also, same specs as epic.
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How can they ship that phone with 2.3 but we cant get a working 2.3 update for the Epic? It's nearly the same phone.
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How can they ship that phone with 2.3 but we cant get a working 2.3 update for the Epic? It's nearly the same phone.
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Because it is Samsung, they did the same with the moment when the transform was the same phone redesigned.
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Because it is Samsung, they did the same with the moment when the transform was the same phone redesigned.
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Yup.. ahh, the good ol moment.. such a failure on Samsung's part.. and it ran froyo so well too.
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Because it is Samsung, they did the same with the moment when the transform was the same phone redesigned.
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Oh trust me I know all about that stupid Moment since I had one before the Epic. LOL
I remember the moment, thanks to mrwrx for getting us froyo when even samsung couldn't was great. It was a fun ride when he was very quickly fixing the issues (proxmity sensor, camera upside down, gyroscope broken) those were the good old days at sdx lol.
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This thing is at a dead end huh? Haven't seen a rom outside of almost 2 mos. and only one rom dev is even around...
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I wouldn't say it's dead. But there's only so much we can do when we are already running stock + there's no honeycomb source. I think things will pick up once ICS source drops.
agree.. got to wait till ICS
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This thing is at a dead end huh? Haven't seen a rom outside of almost 2 mos. and only one rom dev is even around...
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We don't have a fully working unlocked bootloader.....and looking increasingly unlikely that we'll get one.
Wouldn't use the term dead-end myself - rooted stock is quite fine.
If you wanted a phone with lots of ROM development, you picked the wrong phone unfortunately.
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Yeah if you bought the Xoom thinking it's a phone you've already done messed up.
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Yeah if you bought the Xoom thinking it's a phone you've already done messed up.
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agree.. got to wait till ICS
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With this being a Google experience device, were probably going to see an official update to ics. Agree?
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idkwhothatis123 said:
With this being a Google experience device, were probably going to see an official update to ics. Agree?
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Yes, Moto has announced that we will.
More likely this is the calm before the storm. Everybody sits and waits for ICS to drop.
The guys at the Atrix 2 forum have found their leak too. Seems like Moto is really working on the updates. I hope we are next!
Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778953
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OMG! O_O
Sorry, nothing constructive to add. Just excitement
I kinda get why everyone is upset about not getting ICS already. Atrix came out in February 2011 and every phone that came out after that got ICS first.
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Why everyone is so desperated for the update? Its says Q3. It may happen in july, August or September. When the phone was released, it was gingerbread upgradeable not ics upgradeable
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Why everyone is so desperated for the update? Its says Q3. It may happen in july, August or September. When the phone was released, it was gingerbread upgradeable not ics upgradeable
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Indeed. This is a Froyo phone, no matter.the specs. Im grateful that Moto is going to give us official ICS. With ICS, we are going to get the new drivers that are going to work well on JB and maybe in the next Android release.
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cooljeremy84 said:
Why everyone is so desperated for the update? Its says Q3. It may happen in july, August or September. When the phone was released, it was gingerbread upgradeable not ics upgradeable
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When the atrix was released gingerbread was already out, in all honesty, it should have come with gingerbread.
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Indeed. This is a Froyo phone, no matter.the specs. Im grateful that Moto is going to give us official ICS. With ICS, we are going to get the new drivers that are going to work well on JB and maybe in the next Android release.
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I think they will help as far as jellybean, but that's depending on how big key lime pie is.
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I think they will help as far as jellybean, but that's depending on how big key lime pie is.
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Im totally positive that they will help for JB, and judging from Android's past behavior with updates, im about 75% sure that they will also be good for Lime Pie (if thats the name for the next release of Android. These drivers are going to be good for Android 4.x.x, they will stop working for sure on Android 5.0. Thats going to be the end for the Atrix, at least with drivers. Thats just my guess tough.
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Im totally positive that they will help for JB, and judging from Android's past behavior with updates, im about 75% sure that they will also be good for Lime Pie (if thats the name for the next release of Android. These drivers are going to be good for Android 4.x.x, they will stop working for sure on Android 5.0. Thats going to be the end for the Atrix, at least with drivers. Thats just my guess tough.
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Judging from Android's past behavior with updates, Key Lime Pie will be Android 5.0.
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Upon further review you may be right. I certainly hope Key Lime Pie is Android 4.2 with driver compatibility with ICS/JB.
so sad im here that atrix 2 leaked...
huhuhuhuhuhuhuhu..........
please make it faster for atrix 4g....i cant wait it anymore...huhuhu...:crying:
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Sass86 said:
When the atrix was released gingerbread was already out, in all honesty, it should have come with gingerbread.
I think they will help as far as jellybean, but that's depending on how big key lime pie is.
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haha by the time key lime pie is released, pretty much all of us atrix owners would have upgraded lol
Crap, I ordered a used Atrix 4G five minutes ago and now I read this.
achangavi said:
haha by the time key lime pie is released, pretty much all of us atrix owners would have upgraded lol
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Disagree why would we? Dual core and 1gb ram....plenty for my phone.
rancur3p1c said:
Disagree why would we? Dual core and 1gb ram....plenty for my phone.
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Because 97% of people upgrade.
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haha by the time key lime pie is released, pretty much all of us atrix owners would have upgraded lol
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Not me. Unless this phones dies or something like that, i will be using it at least one more year.
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haha by the time key lime pie is released, pretty much all of us atrix owners would have upgraded lol
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Not me. My contract ends next July. Until then, I'm stuck with my Atrix. Now, where is the "unthanks" button? Accidentally gave you a "thanks" and I can't seem to undo it :/
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Because 97% of people upgrade.
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And 63% of all statistics on the internet are made up anyway.
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haha by the time key lime pie is released, pretty much all of us atrix owners would have upgraded lol
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I have to agree with some of the others. My next upgrade is in February. Even I had an upgrade now I wouldn't use it yet. My Atrix has be great and there isn't any phone at the moment that really jumps out at me and says get me. The Atrix HD came close for me (want to stick with Moto because I love their hardware and software is finally starting to catch up). The only things that bother me with the Atrix HD is that because it is very similar to the Razr I'm worried about the battery life. Also, there is no Webtop. Webtop 3.0 was looking good and doesn't tax the cpu like the current version since essentially it is running in tablet mode. I'm kind of holding out to see if Moto does with the Atrix HD what they did with the Razr. The Atrix HD Maxx maybe. I would hope that they bring Webtop 3.0 to it and bring back the fingerprint scanner (fingerprint scanner not a deal breaker). Sorry got a bit off topic.
Hope we will see an OG Atrix leak soon.
Some people only want what they don't have. Don't have ICS therefore they want it.
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Crap, I ordered a used Atrix 4G five minutes ago and now I read this.
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atrix2 if I'm not mistaken has a locked bootloader, so that's a no go. We could get CM 4.1 with customized kernel
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Dark9781 said:
I have to agree with some of the others. My next upgrade is in February.
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Let me tell you about this place all around the USA that is called the world where you don't necessarily tie your phone with a contract...
I see ZTE are releasing the Grand X which is listed as being a tegra2 phone running ICS.
A good source of drivers/libs for the ATRIX?
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I see ZTE are releasing the Grand X which is listed as being a tegra2 phone running ICS.
A good source of drivers/libs for the ATRIX?
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We have to wait motorola for releasing proper drivers/libs
If it have the same chipset probably we can make an aosp.
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gambe89 said:
We have to wait motorola for releasing proper drivers/libs
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Indeed it's coming soon so it may be easier to use Moto's drivers than using ZTE's drivers that will not provide any support for the Lapdock. The new Webtop is just the tablet mode on a bigger screen so it should be portable to make an AOSP for the Atrix.
also sony is releasing a walkman(f800) with ics and tegra 2., but don't know if is the same
hmm yes here http://www.androidcentral.com/zte-announces-grand-x and here http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/review/2192722/zte-grand-x-handson-review it seems it runs the same soc as the atrix, but it uses adifferent modem (from nvidia actually), so it might be useful.
please make it really official for miui...hehehe
There's a lot of impatient people here I think. Were so close to getting official ICS.
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There's a lot of impatient people here I think. Were so close to getting official ICS.
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Useless comment... As is mine, but I really had to point it out... The point of these forums is development and discussion and not waiting around.
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Useless comment... As is mine, but I really had to point it out... The point of these forums is development and discussion and not waiting around.
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Called it useless but forum is for discussion...yeah that makes sense.
Patience is something everyone has to learn. Sometimes it takes more than others. You learn by waiting around.
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There's a lot of impatient people here I think. Were so close to getting official ICS.
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2 months ain't close dude
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2 months ain't close dude
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I love phones and all..but come on.....2 months is too long? You gotta wait 18 months to upgrade your phone with At&T. You are litterally a different age by then.
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I love phones and all..but come on.....2 months is too long? You gotta wait 18 months to upgrade your phone with At&T. You are litterally a different age by then.
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I remember you saying I'm selling my atrix a year ago. You horror about everyone posting the quadrant scores and yet you come back and contradict Egbert smart ass post you have ever put in the atrix forum. It'sjust post of the forum life. Some people are happy with what they got and some aren't. Preaching your crap don't help.
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I remember you saying I'm selling my atrix a year ago. You horror about everyone posting the quadrant scores and yet you come back and contradict Egbert smart ass post you have ever put in the atrix forum. It'sjust post of the forum life. Some people are happy with what they got and some aren't. Preaching your crap don't help.
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I did sell my Atrix....your right. Because I had 2.
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is it just me or the chip Grand X have is clocked at 1.2 Ghz. so this means we can over clock to 1.3 without any problem (i think) can any one help me understand this ****. i cant seams to get my head around over clocking my atrix and undervolting **** and one relate to another.
I take it that it won't be much use to get hold of a rom from one then?
Was going to try asking our voda rep to try one.
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A quick look at the build.prop from the room dump says it's a ventana chip. Same as ours, right?
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