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[Q] HD2 Android?

after waiting for a while to see if windows 7 would be released publicly for this phone, and after finish paying off the phone i have decided to just say "Screw you microsoft" and go with an android build, but i have NO idea where to start with this.
The basics of my knowledge of cell phones is that i have put cookies home tab editor, and a few extra things on my phone, i have backed up my phone a couple of times, and i even done the official t-mobile upgrade for my phone, i know a decent amount about computers in general, but haven't had the chance to play around with my phone and it's OS like i have with a computer, being that my phone is very important to me because of my work, and that i don't have a house phone, only my cell phone.
So, could someone at least direct me to all of the forums with the best downloads for the andriod OS, and extras that i will need to get android working on my HD2?
and am i able to run cookies home tab on my HD2 even if it has android OS?

her u go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=735
and u will need
hspl2 or 3
just try the search option and u will get all the information about it ..
if you are ,form gemany then just try this link
http://www.pocketpc.ch/htc-hd2-android/100639-installationsanleitung-tutorial.html
if not
try search on hspl2 or 3

I'm from the USA, i have t-mobile, updateing to the android will still alow basic calling on t-mobile's edge, gprs, and 3-g networks right?
yea, i've been looking through that forum thread already, i can't find any leadway on what to do, i see about kernels and stuff, but i don't know what all i need to download in case to get the most "Stable" android system, i see there is a linux build, and i guess hastarin is another one?
Is Linux Stable now?

her u go ( hspl2 )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
and ya everthing is working well try for exampel this builds ..
they work fine
[UPD][BUILD][27.10.10]Mdeejay eVo Sense v. 2.3 rEVOlution [kernel:hastarin R7.7]
[UPD][BUILD][07.11.10] MDJ FroYo Sense Revolution v.1.5 [kernel: MDJ S1]
and dont forget this hier is an step by step information
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
hope that will help u

Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...

ogizz said:
Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...
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Don't quote me on this, but from what I've heard HSPL2/3 indeed are not required, but if you somehow screw up your phone without them, you're basically ****ed. HSPL2/3 should always (well, most of the time) be able to revert you back to stock.

ogizz said:
Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...
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You don't need to upgrade HSPL at all. What you must have (100% MUST!!) is a radio version 2.08 or later (2.x.50 versions, NOT 2.x.51 versions).
Until the recent release of the official 3.14 ROM there was no other way to upgrade the radio to the minimum required other than custom flashing, which requires a HSPL upgrade. (Not 100% sure that 3.14 was the first, but I believe it was).
Either way, it's the radio that's crucial to Android - not HSPL.
(I ain't no Android chef or dev - this is just gleaned from what I've read on this forum, so may not be 100% accurate, but it's never failed for me.)

ok, mine Radiois 2.15.50.14, so that means i don`t need to update radio, rom is 3.14.479.2(wwe) it`s stock one...
I have another question then: after installing android on sd card, is there any changes made to stock wm rom or else? or it`s just installing android on sd, and after formating sd card everything will be stock? thnx...

ogizz said:
ok, mine Radiois 2.15.50.14, so that means i don`t need to update radio, rom is 3.14.479.2(wwe) it`s stock one...
I have another question then: after installing android on sd card, is there any changes made to stock wm rom or else? or it`s just installing android on sd, and after formating sd card everything will be stock? thnx...
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Nothing else to do - just copy the android folder to your card and then run the 2 apps (clrcad & haret). Personally, I use a bootloader that runs with Windows, so when I reboot my phone I get the option to run Android or "run" Windows. (Windows is obviously already running at that point. It just closes the app if you select Windows.)
You don't need to format your card to go back to your current config. Just reboot your phone and don't run Android.

johncmolyneux said:
Nothing else to do - just copy the android folder to your card and then run the 2 apps (clrcad & haret). Personally, I use a bootloader that runs with Windows, so when I reboot my phone I get the option to run Android or "run" Windows. (Windows is obviously already running at that point. It just closes the app if you select Windows.)
You don't need to format your card to go back to your current config. Just reboot your phone and don't run Android.
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Thank you, now it`s easier to understand everything, i just thought that clrcad & haret, is needed to run only on first use, and it makes some changes to stock config of hd2. sorry if i misunderstood smthng, i`m new to android on hd2.

ogizz said:
Thank you, now it`s easier to understand everything, i just thought that clrcad & haret, is needed to run only on first use, and it makes some changes to stock config of hd2. sorry if i misunderstood smthng, i`m new to android on hd2.
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No worries mate - glad to help. Hope you get it running - Android's sweet

rather than start a new thread, i have a supplementary question.
It's hard to search for this question, so apologies if it's been covered.
Is it better to run a stripped down custom WM ROM to boot android? or will a stock WM ROM (with the correct radio etc.) run Android just as good?
Does it make a difference?
(I just got a stock HD2 with 3.14 ROM and 2.08.50... radio...)

[Q] Random questions about Android on HD2

Hi. i bought an htc hd2, but i did not like windows, so my brother installed android on it. i belive it is MDJ evo ROM, but i dont know what radio i am using.
-anyway, i noticed android is using about 70% of my battery, is this normal? (my older android phone used like 10%) does changing rom help?
1. If i want to change my rom, all i have to do is replace my old one on the SD card?
2. If i backup using titanium, how do i get the restore-file on my new rom?
3. a friend of mine is buying hd2. do he need to flash hes phone to be able to install android? ive read a "definitive guide to android" here on the forum, but from a "new user" standpoint its kinda hard to understand.
So it is:-flash phone, -install rado, -drag/drop android on sd card?

Weencent said:
Hi. i bought an htc hd2, but i did not like windows, so my brother installed android on it. i belive it is MDJ evo ROM, but i dont know what radio i am using.
-anyway, i noticed android is using about 70% of my battery, is this normal? (my older android phone used like 10%) does changing rom help?
1. If i want to change my rom, all i have to do is replace my old one on the SD card?
2. If i backup using titanium, how do i get the restore-file on my new rom?
3. a friend of mine is buying hd2. do he need to flash hes phone to be able to install android? ive read a "definitive guide to android" here on the forum, but from a "new user" standpoint its kinda hard to understand.
So it is:-flash phone, -install rado, -drag/drop android on sd card?
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1: Yes, Android is contained in it's own folder on the SD Card, if there's nothing else you wish to carry over to the other build, format the card and put the new build on, then boot in the usual way.
2: titanium backup creates a folder called rather unsurprisingly "TitaniumBackup" on the root of the SD card, copy that over to the new build, install Titanium and select restore and it will give you a list of options to reinstall. Google for the wiki on the program and it goes into a lot more detail about how to do all the steps.
3: Yes, pretty much. Although some users will tell you that you'll need a newer SPL version, so long as you're using the latest stock winmo rom the spl is not needed and radio also get's updated along with it, then it's just a case of booting android.

ty
Thanks for the great reply =)
what is HARET? i have a dual boot option on my hd2, is this buildt in the rom itself?

Weencent said:
Thanks for the great reply =)
what is HARET? i have a dual boot option on my hd2, is this buildt in the rom itself?
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HaRet is the hardware emulation invoker for Android to boot. ClrCAD is the audio part of android as well, you need to boot clrcad, then haret on all builds else you'll get no audio.
Lots of roms now have dual boot options, they are just an automatic clrcard/haret loader and some come built into roms, yes. Else they are just a cab file you can install yourself.

[Q] Five OS'es multiboot on the HD2?

Hello everyone,
As far as I see, HD2 can run five different OSes: WM6.5, WP7, Android, Ubuntu and MeeGo.
Is it possible (under certain circumstances such as a huge SD card is required) to boot all these OSes on one device (just like my Macbook boots OSX 10.6, 10.7, Ubuntu and Windows)?
If it is, I'm definitely buying HD2 instead of iPhone 4.
Thanks,
~ Vladislav Korotnev

no, cos winmo and wp7 will only run from the nand, and you can only have one of them on nand at a time. Best option in my limited view would be forget wp7, put winmo on nand, and android, ubuntu and meego on sd card.
Four out of five aint bad.

Thanks for a fast reply.
That would be nice! But if I install WP7, I can get WM back on NAND anytime, right? Cool!

Yes, you can.

vladkorotnev said:
Hello everyone,
As far as I see, HD2 can run five different OSes: WM6.5, WP7, Android, Ubuntu and MeeGo.
Is it possible (under certain circumstances such as a huge SD card is required) to boot all these OSes on one device (just like my Macbook boots OSX 10.6, 10.7, Ubuntu and Windows)?
If it is, I'm definitely buying HD2 instead of iPhone 4.
Thanks,
~ Vladislav Korotnev
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i wont personally like 5 os
thats too much

Hello again,
Sorry to bump this old thread, but i don't wanna clutter the forum with a lot of similar threads by the same author.
I've reviewed all the Android firmwares for HD2 i could find and decided to use Android from NAND.
Will i be able to boot ubuntu from an SD card via a bootloader from Android, not WinMo?
Also, could anyone please point me to a basic installation instruction for Android on HD2 in NAND?
Sorry to bother you.
Thanks

Glad to see you bought your HD2!
You can boot ubuntu from nand android using
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1025499
Or debian from nand android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029390
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095726
But to get USB host to work we have to wait for further developments.
Unfortunately Meego is not yet available on HD2 as stated in your first post.
However, TOP people are on the case, and things can change overnight.
ACA have a brand new nand android (other products are available!), check install instructions of your chosen build.

My HSPL is 3.03
Is it possible to have NANDroid on my HD2 or I am stuck with HaRET?

I have been watching the meego forum, did I miss something? Is it working now?
Sent from my HD2 using XDA App

vladkorotnev said:
My HSPL is 3.03
Is it possible to have NANDroid on my HD2 or I am stuck with HaRET?
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Not with that HSPL; flash HSPL3 and you should have 2.08 which should work perfectly. You flashed HSPL4 which is only better for certain Winmo roms. Use this.

JesusFreak316 said:
Not with that HSPL; flash HSPL3 and you should have 2.08 which should work perfectly. You flashed HSPL4 which is only better for certain Winmo roms. Use this.
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HSPL4 is fine for him, it's just a newer version that can flash any SPL including 3.03, so he doesn't need HSPL3, he can use HSPL4 to flash 2.08

orangekid said:
HSPL4 is fine for him, it's just a newer version that can flash any SPL including 3.03, so he doesn't need HSPL3, he can use HSPL4 to flash 2.08
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Ah, thanks. Either way, he needs to switch to 2.08; on that we're agreed. I actually just flashed hspl for the first time Friday, lol. My previous phone had it already on it but the replacement I got then didn't.

Actualy i think you can boot all 5, but you have to be very careful how you partition the sd card.
Am looking for SIMPLE boot chooser that can run in winmo 6.5 or as boot loader that can handle them all
sent from my htc hd2 leo, using xda premium app, because i can
the only good apple is in a pie !!!!

There is none that can load winmo or wp7 from sd so it is not possible. And meego isn't even released until now.

Hello,
Thanks for helping.
I think I'll never use Windows on it, so I installed HSPL2.08, MAGLDR, Clockwork and Cyanogenmod Typhoon.
I can't run ubuntu with it, so I'll wait for Ubuntu-HD2 v0.4 that will have MAGLDR SD support
Thanks

Cool it will be nice!

vladkorotnev said:
Hello,
Thanks for helping.
I think I'll never use Windows on it, so I installed HSPL2.08, MAGLDR, Clockwork and Cyanogenmod Typhoon.
I can't run ubuntu with it, so I'll wait for Ubuntu-HD2 v0.4 that will have MAGLDR SD support
Thanks
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there are other ways to run unix from within android. you can try the hd2 toolbox app or start a vnc server from android and connect with a client to it. just try searching the forums and you will find something.

rauschkugl said:
you can try the hd2 toolbox app.
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Oh, that's exactly what i need!
But the 2,5 GB linux.img that is included doesn't fit on my SD.
Could someone please provide a resized image? about 1Gb would be nice

sorry i can't help with that but maybe you should think about buyying a new sd-card if you haven't space for the image ^^ they are't that expensive.

Confusion with all those programs

Hi guys,
Id like to run Android on my HTC HD2, so I think Im in the righ forum.
There are however some confusing points. I get confused with all those different abbreviations and programs. Could someone please clarify, what kind of programs we use, what the difference is and so on... I know that there are two ways: by SD card and internal rom... Whats better/the difference?
What does HSPL, CLK, NAND, MAGLDR and CWM stand for, why do I need those programs?
Dont worry: I've used the search function and read some tutorials, but they are all just for one particular way, and not the other... Id just liek to get the basics, so that I can then decide...
Thanks!
the_at

Read this guide by mskip, it will help u: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948

the_at said:
Hi guys,
Id like to run Android on my HTC HD2, so I think Im in the righ forum.
There are however some confusing points. I get confused with all those different abbreviations and programs. Could someone please clarify, what kind of programs we use, what the difference is and so on... I know that there are two ways: by SD card and internal rom... Whats better/the difference?
What does HSPL, CLK, NAND, MAGLDR and CWM stand for, why do I need those programs?
Dont worry: I've used the search function and read some tutorials, but they are all just for one particular way, and not the other... Id just liek to get the basics, so that I can then decide...
Thanks!
the_at
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HSPL = When you bought your phone, it was showingspl. After you have unlocked you phone, it will show HSPL. This means that you can flash anything you want.. What hspl simply does is edit security_1 to security_0
CLK and MAGLDR - two different bootloaders. You need these to flash an android rom.
NAND - A "place" on your phone where android is saved.
CWM - Clockworkdmod, a "thing" that's needed to flash android (.zip's)
Tried to explain it in the easiest way, I hope it helped

Also try SD Android before playing with NAND version - you may just dislike it and you won't lose time spent on flash ;-)
SD Android is slower than nand version, but if you want android just for play angry birds etc. - would be enough. Great for beginners - you won't mess anything in device.

Hey guys,
thanks that helped a lot, esp. the answer of yz.hd!
Additional questions:
1. Whats the difference between the bootloaders CLK and MAGLDR? Is one better? Do they have different prerequisits/uses?
2. I dont need CWM for all android ROMs, right? Just for special ones? Is there a program for other ROMs? Does CMW have a special advantage?
Thanks so much!
the_at

the_at said:
Hey guys,
thanks that helped a lot, esp. the answer of yz.hd!
Additional questions:
1. Whats the difference between the bootloaders CLK and MAGLDR? Is one better? Do they have different prerequisits/uses?
2. I dont need CWM for all android ROMs, right? Just for special ones? Is there a program for other ROMs? Does CMW have a special advantage?
Thanks so much!
the_at
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1. MAGLDR allows you to have more control over how you boot your roms, it allowas you to run a Nand Android rom, or boot from sd, or boot a WP7 rom if you have it installed. It also allows you to boot to CWR (as well as play a kick ass game of tetris ).
CLK gives more of a "stock" android experience as your phone will not have to boot MAGLDR first, when you turn it on it boots strait to Android just like a native phone. You can also reboot right to CWR and you can charge the phone while off which is something MAGLDR currently lacks.
2. If you are going to go Nand and are using CLK or the CWR is a must as all Android Nand roms are flashed this way. It also allows you to backup and restore your rom before making changes so you can go back right where you were if you make a mistake.

Ok, thanks again.
I believe Id like to flash Android (Ice Cream sandwich) to NAND. Using CLK. Also install CWM and CWR, for this nice recovery feature.
Could you point me to the newest/best versions of those programs for a clean install?
- Android ROM, ICS, without any additions like filemanager etc. if possible
- CLK
- CWM and CWR
Great help here, guys!
Cheers, the_at
PS: Also, I read something about not having enough space on the phone for apps. As I usually install apps (in WM 6.5) to SD anyway, this is not an issue for me. However, do I need something special in Android to install to SD or can I easily choose as in WM 6.5?

[Q] Frustrated NOOB needs a little help installing rom

After several days struggle, I'm burned out. Some of the threads here have 100+ pages, and searches yield too much outdated, irrelevant info. So, I'm asking for some direction (as simple as possible, please).
I'm trying to set up my unlocked HD2 (originally T-Mo, but unlocked and using AT&T) for dual-boot, WM6.5 and Android. As you know, the choices for android rom are mind-boggling. I don't need anything fancy, just something up-to-date and stable. I would like, however, something LOUD.
Here's what I've tried so far:
Using despy1989's March 2010 guide (four years old already!), I have my HD2 booting up asking to choose Android or WM. If I choose Android, it does nothing, and defaults to WM.
I have SUNDAWG-CM7-NATIVESD rom loaded (or I think I do) in the android directory of the SD card. I'm not sure this one will meet my LOUD requirement, but since it won't load, I can't tell.
If I tap the new Android icon, it does nothing. If I tap the Android SoftReset icon, it resets but does not load Android, goes to WinMo.
If I go to File Explorer, and run haret, I get the message "failed to load file \storagecard\android\sdcard\nativesd\zimage"
What do I do next?
ANY help is much appreciated.

How did you installed Android as NativeSD? Did you made a partition on your SD in EXT4 which is needed for installing the Rom? Why you want keep WM 6.5 anyway?

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eclyptos said:
How did you installed Android as NativeSD? Did you made a partition on your SD in EXT4 which is needed for installing the Rom? Why you want keep WM 6.5 anyway?
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AFAIK, yes it is installed as NativeSD, Did not make a partition (there was conflicting advice as to whether it was necessary. I'm not ready to go "all in" and reformat my old SD card yet.)
Want to keep WM6.5 since it is the only one that works the way I need. I've been playing with a Sony X10a with Android 1.6 and am frustrated. I specifically need LOUDNESS and customizable ringtones and notifications, and relatively easy syncing with my PC.
Thanks for your reply and any further advice.

If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working. From WM6.5 can be run only SD Android version or there is another way, much longer but it's the way how it have to be.
Install MAGLRD and Recovery, probably this will wipe the phone, make the partition on SD to Install NativeSD, Install the Rom as Native SD. Then flash back the Stock WM6.5, this will wipe MAGLRD and Recovery. Now start again Android from the folder created from the installation. It should boot.

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eclyptos said:
If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working. From WM6.5 can be run only SD Android version or there is another way, much longer but it's the way how it have to be.
Install MAGLRD and Recovery, probably this will wipe the phone, make the partition on SD to Install NativeSD, Install the Rom as Native SD. Then flash back the Stock WM6.5, this will wipe MAGLRD and Recovery. Now start again Android from the folder created from the installation. It should boot.
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Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated. I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.

techcntr said:
Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated. I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.
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I did this 100 times and HD2 is not that easy to brick, I never heard about bricked HD2 before. Then if you don't want to do it you will never have NativeSD on your phone because the NativeSD have to be installed on EXT4 partition, there is no other way. The only Android which you can use is from this section HERE. Put it on SD with other stuff and run with the application from WM6.5. First boot is very long.

eclyptos said:
If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working
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Sounds like "eating without plate"..
techcntr said:
Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated.
I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.
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No, wipe (task29) won't even touch SPL parts.
So, unless you're super duper unlucky using wipe command, you won't bricking your device.
I don't know if you're already flash HSPL.
I suggest you to flash HSPL first, then the rest is up to you..

Shadow_Nexus said:
Sounds like "eating without plate"..
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Shadow_Nexus said:
No, wipe (task29) won't even touch SPL parts.
So, unless you're super duper unlucky using wipe command, you won't bricking your device.
I don't know if you're already flash HSPL.
I suggest you to flash HSPL first, then the rest is up to you..
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Yeah, You are right too, I forgot to mention HSPL and Radio have to be installed before do anything. :good:
It's all easy like eat ice cream.
Some Tips How To Do It HERE

do update for a fee
eclyptos said:
Yeah, You are right too, I forgot to mention HSPL and Radio have to be installed before do anything. :good:
It's all easy like eat ice cream.
Some Tips How To Do It HERE
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Do you anyone who does this sort of thing for a reasonable fee? Preferably in the SW USA?

techcntr said:
Do you anyone who does this sort of thing for a reasonable fee? Preferably in the SW USA?
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If you really can't do this I can assist you via Team Viewer, I will tell you what to do and what to download. Before that I have to see your bootloader. Send me a PM to arrange an appointament. I don't know nobody in USA at the moment or I don't know they are.

techcntr said:
So, I'm asking for some direction (as simple as possible, please).
I'm trying to set up my unlocked HD2 (originally T-Mo, but unlocked and using AT&T) for dual-boot, WM6.5 and Android.
What do I do next?
ANY help is much appreciated.
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Read this thread in HTC Leo: HD2 > HD2 Android > HD2 Android SD Development > [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
Feel free to ask for help there.
Cheers
Tom
My Note 2 to you

broken links, etc.
Szczepanik said:
Read this thread in HTC Leo: HD2 > HD2 Android > HD2 Android SD Development > [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
Feel free to ask for help there.
Cheers
Tom
My Note 2 to you
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Been trying to follow your steps, but when I get to "Native SD Install Recovery", the links are broken. (this is the very kind of frustrations I'm having - there does not appear to be one single step-by-step guide without numerous links to invalid or outdated sites. I don't need advertising either.)
I can't find the 4EXT partition (in W8.1) in order to install anything.
So, now what?