I read that Fire will have a stripped/modified version of android. Would the devs eventually be able to load the full version of android on to fire? Right now I'm paranoid by the possibility of having limited usage due to the modified version of android.
Its got the Amazon interface, but it will be running over 2.3
Plus, amazon has said they will not stand in the way of rooting the device, so its very likely that within a month or so some ROMS will be out for it.
Speculators say that the specs have potential for Android 3.0
512MB of RAM = kinda sucks.
Same as in ipad 2
Samsung Galaxy S Dos indeed
Honestly. I'm more worried about ice cream sandwich than honeycomb.
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Same as in ipad 2
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Completely different OS with a significantly different style of memory management. Apples and oranges.
Yeah but 512MB certainly isn't lacking, especially considering it's a device that's under $200. It would've been hard to put in any more and keep it at that price point. Also ICS is supposed to be pretty memory efficient.
Once its able to be rooted and loaded with custom roms I'm buying three. One for me and one for each of my kids. IM getting an Htc Flyer for the wifey.
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A little caution here might be in order. The android devs are a wickedly creative crew BUT...until the AF is rooted (consistently) I would NOT presume it can or even will be!
Note how the Transformers were rootable up to the later B70 models. Then after that....nada so far. It's all about the SDK, bootloader, etc.
Wait and see if the AF can be rooted is all I say.
EDIT: Disregard.
i hope it has full android
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i hope it has full android
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No its a heavily modiefied 2.3 android. And putting full android ob there will break the cloud storage one has, and 6gb is not enough to have all the apps you want.
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No its a heavily modiefied 2.3 android. And putting full android ob there will break the cloud storage one has, and 6gb is not enough to have all the apps you want.
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Unless you only plan to use it as an ereader and for watching movies.
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Looks like Google is starting to drop AOSP HoneyComb - Slowly albeit. I am not sure if enough has been dropped for JesusFreak to get us a good BakSmalli/Smalli setup though
http://www.androidguys.com/2011/04/12/pieces-honeycomb-hit-aosp-repository/
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Looks like Google is starting to drop AOSP HoneyComb - Slowly all be it. I am not sure if enough has been dropped for JesusFreak to get us a good BakSmalli/Smalli setup though
http://www.androidguys.com/2011/04/12/pieces-honeycomb-hit-aosp-repository/
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its like we have been in the desert forever and google has the only water and they are just trickaling it down to us :O
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all be it
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"albeit". Pet peeve.
Google needs to put the ****ing source out already. If they want to prevent crappy devices with honeycomb, this is the wrong way to do it.
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What's the right way to do it? Because I can't imagine the flak Google will take once the crappy manufacturers get hold of the source code and devices with 128mb of RAM and 400mhz processor are running Honeycomb at glacier speed.
Suddenly people will be saying, "but I thought it was designed for tablets? Honeycomb sucks!"
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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"albeit". Pet peeve.
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I know I know, I looked at it after posting and said "That just aint right, oh well..."
Fixed now, was hoping not to get called out.
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What's the right way to do it? Because I can't imagine the flak Google will take once the crappy manufacturers get hold of the source code and devices with 128mb of RAM and 400mhz processor are running Honeycomb at glacier speed.
Suddenly people will be saying, "but I thought it was designed for tablets? Honeycomb sucks!"
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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I don't get that argument at all... Companies want their device to sell not flop. The galaxy tab ran 2.2 simply because honeycomb didn't exist back then. Honestly tho... Who the hell is going to buy a honeycomb phone... ?
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Satisfying GPL/LGPL, and they've been there since January. Nobody noticed until they were recently updated.
twitter.com/jbqueru/status/57875038942138368#
Still unlikely we'll see full Honeycomb in AOSP; Ice Cream will drop soon enough.
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"albeit". Pet peeve.
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For all intensive purposes, you're right!
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I don't get that argument at all... Companies want their device to sell not flop. The galaxy tab ran 2.2 simply because honeycomb didn't exist back then. Honestly tho... Who the hell is going to buy a honeycomb phone... ?
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I get your point but I'm not talking about quality manufacturers like Sammy. I'm talking about all the Chinese knock offs like the apad and those pos resistive things like the Disgo and the Next tab that are available in the UK and I'm sure elsewhere.
These things can't even run Froyo properly, what chance do they have of running Honeycomb?
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For all intensive purposes, you're right!
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Heh!
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wynand32 said:
For all intensive purposes, you're right!
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PLEASE tell me that's irony!
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Well the next phones are going to be a mesh of honeycomb and gingerbread so we don't have to worry about a honey only phone which would be as retarded as chicken balls
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The SDK has been released, will we see this on the SGS2 soon?
If not by Samsung by the rom gurus?
http://blog.gsmarena.com/google-releases-android-3-2-honeycomb-sdk-list-of-updates/
Nope. It's for tablets only, and I doubt anyone can manage to port it to our device.
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Nope. It's for tablets only, and I doubt anyone can manage to port it to our device.
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Ahh ok, thanks, shame though
3.0 was ported to HD2, so it's possible.
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Nope. It's for tablets only, and I doubt anyone can manage to port it to our device.
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You mean "could be bothered" to port it. I'm sure that someone _could_, but an OS designed for a tablet on a 4.3" screen would be a bit average.
Wait for the Cyanogen guys to port IceCream Sandwich (Android 4.0?) if/when it turns up. By that time Samsung will have dropped the SGS2 like last weeks spam sandwich and will be pushing the SGS3 instead.
Of course, that won't be until around Christmas sometime I'd be guessing.
God dammit, this is about the 3rd topic on the same thing. SDK does not equal the whole os, google have only put out the source for the gpl bits and a lot of android is apache.
And a 3.0 port wouldn't make much sense on a 4.3inch screen
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this is the exact reason why Google hasn't made honeycomb open sourced.
Honeycomb is only meant for tablets. Until people learn to accept that it will remain closed. We've already seen android ruined by sub-par OEMs putting android on their **** hardware.
I hope not, honeycomb looks so messy at the moment
There really is no point putting honeycomb on a phone, the optimisations are mainly just for larger screens. If there is something nice in there it normally gets ripped out and cooked into a ROM or app anyway, its just a waste of time doing a full port IMHO.
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3.0 was ported to HD2, so it's possible.
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Yeah i remember the thread in question,BUT it was practically useless most functions were not working on the phone.
Then i hope a dev could make a really good honeycomb theme in that case
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Just gotta wait about 2~4 months for ice cream sandwich to release and then a bit longer for update. But it's gonna be awesome
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Honeycomb is just for tablets, ok.
How about ICS?
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Yeah i remember the thread in question,BUT it was practically useless most functions were not working on the phone.
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Of course, but it was fun to play with
I even played Angry Birds.
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Do you guys think the vibrant could handle this? But I'm sure the development here will someday get it working. Your thoughts?
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It can handle it easily nexus S is pretty much same hardware an y wouldn't u want it its the future
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Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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Its not even close to being done do the kernel is not even updated do an the person who leaked it said its a work in process it's alpha they got something up there sleeve
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Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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What's Gingerbread missing that you want so bad from IceCreamSandwich?
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Do you guys think the vibrant could handle this? But I'm sure the development here will someday get it working. Your thoughts?
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oh... i thought you meant like... you know.. a real ice cream sandwich... im disappointed :\
The Nexus S supports ICS so our Vibrants should run it just fine. A Nexus S is basically the same hardware as a Galaxy S with NFC support. Unfortunately I don't think we'll be getting any official ICS from Samsung. We have yet to even see Gingerbread, although Tmobile also has a say in it. I've already decided to either get the Samsung Hercules or Nexus Prime to replace my age old Vibrant. I'm leaning towards the Nexus Prime simply for first-served updates directly from Google.
Looking at the leak that could have just been edited GB, I mean any of the devs here could have made that.
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The Nexus S supports ICS so our Vibrants should run it just fine. A Nexus S is basically the same hardware as a Galaxy S with NFC support. Unfortunately I don't think we'll be getting any official ICS from Samsung. We have yet to even see Gingerbread, although Tmobile also has a say in it. I've already decided to either get the Samsung Hercules or Nexus Prime to replace my age old Vibrant. I'm leaning towards the Nexus Prime simply for first-served updates directly from Google.
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What really sucks is I just started 2year plan I thought this was a new phone lol so who knows what they will have in 2 years.
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What really sucks is I just started 2year plan I thought this was a new phone lol so who knows what they will have in 2 years.
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lol that sucks but this phone is not too bad compared to new phones ive had mine for a while but im still satisfied with it, ive had honeycomb run on my vibrant, not fully functioning but it runs so why not ice cream
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lol that sucks but this phone is not too bad compared to new phones ive had mine for a while but im still satisfied with it, ive had honeycomb run on my vibrant, not fully functioning but it runs so why not ice cream
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Exatly
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We dont even have (official) GB fully functioning, so I wont think about any further for vibrant
I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.
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I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.
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Well I don't expect alot either but they could surprise us.
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I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.
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No uhh not really its suppose to make android one cross all platforms so transition to new version should be much better than it was for CM7 an there still gonna update international galaxy s we will see ICS soon cuz u can port over since its so similar an Google yet to fail me except for Gingerbread
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We dont even have (official) GB fully functioning, so I wont think about any further for vibrant
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actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that
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actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that
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For me gps works when it wants not when i want, its not what i called fully fixed. I always get back to froyo after using cm7 for a week.
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No uhh not really its suppose to make android one cross all platforms so transition to new version should be much better than it was for CM7 an there still gonna update international galaxy s we will see ICS soon cuz u can port over since its so similar an Google yet to fail me except for Gingerbread
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Yes, it is going to make Android the same across all Nexus branded platforms. Touchwiz, Sense, and Blur are not going anywhere and the manufacturers still have to modify ICS for each individual device. The Galaxy S is done for official support, period. Samsung is not making any more money from the original Galaxy S compared to the SII; most owners of the original have or will already have switched devices so Samsung has no true need to update the international version. Google's 18 month update suggestion was what it was, a suggestion, and by the time December comes, the Galaxy S is about 18 months old anyways.
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actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that
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I tried multiple builds and just couldn't get reasonable battery life. I got tired of charging through usb at work. With my usage and location I get about 24 hours on undervolt 2.2 builds.
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Yes, it is going to make Android the same across all Nexus branded platforms. Touchwiz, Sense, and Blur are not going anywhere and the manufacturers still have to modify ICS for each individual device. The Galaxy S is done for official support, period. Samsung is not making any more money from the original Galaxy S compared to the SII; most owners of the original have or will already have switched devices so Samsung has no true need to update the international version. Google's 18 month update suggestion was what it was, a suggestion, and by the time December comes, the Galaxy S is about 18 months old anyways.
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Really only time can tell what they do
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Snagged from this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309598
That last bit about being able to work on 2.3 devices snagged from this other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309724
I think we're all aware of this as well, but for those that don't read many threads, GB Source for our Epics have been released.
Also, after the unveil of the Samsung Nexus Prime, The 4.0 SDK is also available.
Here is the Roboto Font from ICS.
(Edit: Roboto is available on Custom Font Switcher App)
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Snagged from this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309598
That last bit about being able to work on 2.3 devices snagged from this other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309724
I think we're all aware of this as well, but for those that don't read many threads, GB Source for our Epics have been released.
Also, after the unveil of the Samsung Nexus Prime, The 4.0 SDK is also available.
Here is the Roboto Font from ICS.
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I've had the font for a little bit now it's pretty nice, but all the apps are odexed and there isn't a means to deodex them yet, so we have to wait and see I believe.
Yeah, I saw that you posted, I installed soon after, very easy on the eyes. I'm excited for ICS even though we just got GB source. I'm thinking maybe Google's ICS framework is what's needed for that sexy contacts or as they say, "people app", but I want that on my epic.
Yeah, I'm trying to take images from the ICS keyboard and move them to the Gingerbread keyboard. I replaced all the files....and yet, it still shows Gingerbread images. D:
But the font makes it more enjoyable.
Thanks Shiny, now that GB source just hit, you would think all the Debbie Downers would shut the hell up but now I am already seeing threads as to when will we get ICS. And this adds fuel to their fire....LOL.
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Thanks Shiny, now that GB source just hit, you would think all the Debbie Downers would shut the hell up but now I am already seeing threads as to when will we get ICS. And this adds fuel to their fire....LOL.
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LOL some ppl will just never be satisfied
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While it would be great, I highly doubt the Epic will ever see official ICS
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While it would be great, I highly doubt the Epic will ever see official ICS
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But will probably get a ported version...just as good, sometimes better.
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But will probably get a ported version...just as good, sometimes better.
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Yep. Just the fact that ics doesn't require a newer kernel is good. (I think)
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Yep. Just the fact that ics doesn't require a newer kernel is good. (I think)
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Don't know if that is what they meant by it should be capable on 2.3 devices. More that the hardware will be able to handle ICS if it could handle Gingerbread. This would not be the first time though that a phone runs a newer version of android with a modified older kernal.
Well, this is it.
Is it worth trade? I was thinking about use the webtop and try to buy a vehicle dock and lapdock for a better use of the phone... But seeing on another way I have an ipad 3 and its better than the docks for Atrix, I can just plug my iPad via hdmi on my TV and I get a better "webtop".
But I still getting it on my head, is it really worth? Maybe is just excitement now with the docks that Atrix have.
Sorry my bad english btw.
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i dont really use the hdmi of the atrix but im excited to do so when i get my new tv. its a quite good phone and i hate lg but the screen quality is extremely bad (rgbw pentile matrix)... plus no 3D. the hardware is good enough, but the lack of official ics is not very positive
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Looks like Optimus 3D will get official ICS...
So you think better keep my LG? Because it have the hdmi function as well, only not the webtop, but I really dont think it is that better when compare with my Ipad 3.
Hmm...not so sure. One thing that its actually better on the Atrix is the development support. Last time i checked when i was looking to root and update my friend's O3D, the development was kind of dead at the moment. Not so sure how it is now, but it usually slows down with time, so my guess its that it must be kind of dead right now. Atrix's development is not the best one, but its great. And the community here is great. If you are OK with not receiving official ICS, i would do the trade.
I would look for something better though. Maybe a Galaxy Nexus if you can find a deal for it.
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Hmm...not so sure. One thing that its actually better on the Atrix is the development support. Last time i checked when i was looking to root and update my friend's O3D, the development was kind of dead at the moment. Not so sure how it is now, but it usually slows down with time, so my guess its that it must be kind of dead right now. Atrix's development is not the best one, but its great. And the community here is great. If you are OK with not receiving official ICS, i would do the trade.
I would look for something better though. Maybe a Galaxy Nexus if you can find a deal for it.
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The thing is that O3D community is kind waiting the ICS uptade... But I dont know, Im really confused about trade it.
Cause the O3D can not get the ICS and stuck on 2.3 forever, thats my fear, on the other hand In Atrix I would get enough custom roms as I can.
Any additional info would be appreciate!
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... the O3D can not get the ICS and stuck on 2.3 forever, thats my fear, on the other hand In Atrix I would get enough custom roms as I can.
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It seems like you've answered your own question :good: go for it!!
Noway i will go for an android phone with less than 1Gb ram.
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i dont really use the hdmi of the atrix but im excited to do so when i get my new tv. its a quite good phone and i hate lg but the screen quality is extremely bad (rgbw pentile matrix)... plus no 3D. the hardware is good enough, but the lack of official ics is not very positive
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voncount said:
Noway i will go for an android phone with less than 1Gb ram.
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O3D is dual-channel 512mb = 1GB.
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O3D is dual-channel 512mb = 1GB.
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Nope, total is 512 and you have 2 channel with 256mb each.
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Nope, total is 512 and you have 2 channel with 256mb each.
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Really man? Argh... I Just tough it was 1gb.
Now im really considering to trade it.
If I look at my Atrix here, I wouldn't choose it again. Honestly, I love the fingerprint scanner - and due to that + the chipset we're pretty stuck on gingerbread. A ton of apps do require ICS and JB and we're pretty stuck; Don't want to sound desperate or pessimistic, but even my P1 runs on JB by now - so I wouldn't swap if I were you.
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If I look at my Atrix here, I wouldn't choose it again. Honestly, I love the fingerprint scanner - and due to that + the chipset we're pretty stuck on gingerbread. A ton of apps do require ICS and JB and we're pretty stuck; Don't want to sound desperate or pessimistic, but even my P1 runs on JB by now - so I wouldn't swap if I were you.
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LG Optimus 3D won't gonna get any ICS it appears... And the Atrix can use JB from custom roms right? So it won't be stuck forever.
If it was me I'd do the trade but I think you should look at other phones too maybe ones with ICS and JB support. But you should also look how active the development is. Luckily us atrix users have great developers
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inaudibly said:
If it was me I'd do the trade but I think you should look at other phones too maybe ones with ICS and JB support. But you should also look how active the development is. Luckily us atrix users have great developers
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I don't have any other options, and for me... I use my phone to SMS, calls and a little bit web search, but I use alot the HDMI feature to see some movies on my girlfriend's house, so webtop would be cool too.
If I can upgrade, even from custom roms to JB or ICS Im going to be happy anyway, I dont need a powerful smartphone, only one which dont freezes and lags when im texting or awnsering an call like my old Moto Milestone (hate it).
Atrix can do all of them things perfectly and webtop on ICS is looking promising. Or you can use tablet ui which is quite good. If you have no other choice I'd recommend the atrix I'm running epinters latest CM10 build, the battery is great and it is a great daily driver would highly recommend that.
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Atrix can do all of them things perfectly and webtop on ICS is looking promising. Or you can use tablet ui which is quite good. If you have no other choice I'd recommend the atrix I'm running epinters latest CM10 build, the battery is great and it is a great daily driver would highly recommend that.
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Yea, I just want an good phone to daily uses... If the customs roms from Atrix grants this, Im happy to make the deal.
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i have just gone from evo 3d to atrix 4g, my opinion the atrix is better ,great phone
It is just not funny to have more workarounds than features due to nvidia and Motorola
And also the lapdock is so useful, I can even plug my PC on it and use.
Atrix is really a good deal, Im going to make it if my friend still wants.
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Lies. The ICS leak has semi-good drivers and FP support.
I also think that the Atrix is a better phone. Only issue with it is that the Atrix tends to damage the digitizer by itself. It happens suddenly. One day you are using your phone normally, 100% ok, and the next one you have a dead strip on your digitizer with no response at all. Look that issue up before you make the trade.
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