Will usb port work as a host on the Amazon Fire to support USB flash drive, card readers and other USB peripherals? The USB - micro-b port powered would have to be powered...
If it is, it would compensate to some extent for the lack of microSD card slot.
I have my pre-order in and will cancel if the USB port doesn't work on the host.
Hopefully Amazon will release review models soon!
Thanks!
If you've asking if the device can connect to a pc as a mass storage device, I've read that it can but won't know for sure until I get it in my hands.
Reread your question and I don't think it will do that.
sent from my Infuse at Tranquility Base.
What he asked is if it will work as a host - which means if we could attach pendrives and card readers to it. No one knows right now.
I seriously doubt if the port will work as a usb host. Since, it is a micro usb port, you would need an adapter. But that's easy enough to acquire.
If it does have the capability to host, IE hardware. I don't think amazon would code the software side of things. Espy with all the hype of their could service.
I am hearing that the kindle fire can't use USB host support because it wasn't released until 3.1. Then what about the tablets that do support USB host like the skypad. Also amazon is using a custom version of android which very well could support USB host.
i think it will just be an issue of software, and that is fixable with time, i hear that other android builds with the same proc have the drivers so after rooting you may just be able to sideload the driver on and load it up.
i haven't got mine yet or i would already be tring to get this working, it opens up alot of possiblities with this device (more storage, head set, webcam, printer, etc)
i also hear that the wifi module has support for bluetooth, there just isn't a driver, this is also something to look into.
My boss had his fire delivered today. He borrowed the USB OTG cable (adapter from micro to Full Size Female USB) that I use for my Xoom.
We plugged a thumb drive into it and nothing happened.
Time will tell if software can fix this.
wesscoggin said:
My boss had his fire delivered today. He borrowed the USB OTG cable (adapter from micro to Full Size Female USB) that I use for my Xoom.
We plugged a thumb drive into it and nothing happened.
Time will tell if software can fix this.
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Did you root it?
PS Some news>?
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Did you root it?
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No.
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Really interested in this. I haven't opened my Kindle Fire yet and this is the deal breaker for me. Would be great if some tests were done including:
(Tests for USB Drives & SD Cards w/ USB>SD Adapter)
OTG Adapter Cable while Rooted
OTG + Splitter Cable w/ Power Source
OTG + Splitter Cable w/ Power Source while Rooted
Gamernivek said:
Really interested in this. I haven't opened my Kindle Fire yet and this is the deal breaker for me. Would be great if some tests were done including:
(Tests for USB Drives & SD Cards w/ USB>SD Adapter)
OTG Adapter Cable while Rooted
OTG + Splitter Cable w/ Power Source
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Ill save you the trouble ....this MUST be built into the kernel. Amazon would have told us if this was an included feature.
2 options for you guys.
BUY AN ACTUAL ANDROID TABLET AND RETURN THIS...
OR
HAVE SOME PATIENCE!
Do you guys have any idea how annoying it is to be working on something and getting bothered about whether or boy its done yet? All I ask for is patience. Apparently that's too much to ask for!
Us developers are doing all this for free. Donating fuels us.
Ungrateful nerds asking 'Is it done yet?' Just makes us want to say **** all of you and forget it.
Oh and just because someone's name doesn't have 'Recognized Developer' underneath it doesn't mean they aren't a developer.
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I understand your frustration, but development has been quiet on here. I think if someone put up they are working o nit and have list of possible features, questions would be quieted.
Either way, if you are working on this, then I am grateful, whether or not you post up what you're doing
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Ill save you the trouble ....this MUST be built into the kernel. Amazon would have told us if this was an included feature.
2 options for you guys.
BUY AN ACTUAL ANDROID TABLET AND RETURN THIS...
OR
HAVE SOME PATIENCE!
Do you guys have any idea how annoying it is to be working on something and getting bothered about whether or boy its done yet? All I ask for is patience. Apparently that's too much to ask for!
Us developers are doing all this for free. Donating fuels us.
Ungrateful nerds asking 'Is it done yet?' Just makes us want to say **** all of you and forget it.
Oh and just because someone's name doesn't have 'Recognized Developer' underneath it doesn't mean they aren't a developer.
/END RANT
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I'm sure everyone is appreciative of your efforts. That being said... After reading this thread and specifically the comment you qouted I don't see where you're coming from. It seems to me that people are asking questions and offering up some thoughts or suggestions that they have, which is what i believe the purpose of a forum is. I intend no disrespect to you and appologize in advance if it is taken that way.
death2all110 said:
Ill save you the trouble ....this MUST be built into the kernel. Amazon would have told us if this was an included feature.
2 options for you guys.
BUY AN ACTUAL ANDROID TABLET AND RETURN THIS...
OR
HAVE SOME PATIENCE!
Do you guys have any idea how annoying it is to be working on something and getting bothered about whether or boy its done yet? All I ask for is patience. Apparently that's too much to ask for!
Us developers are doing all this for free. Donating fuels us.
Ungrateful nerds asking 'Is it done yet?' Just makes us want to say **** all of you and forget it.
Oh and just because someone's name doesn't have 'Recognized Developer' underneath it doesn't mean they aren't a developer.
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I was asking if it was already built in, just wanted to know if it would perhaps work under the correct editions. If you're working on it, great! I just haven't seen any information regarding such. Oh, and at the time I posted that, I didn't have a Kindle Fire so I couldn't test it out myself. I also don't own an OTG Adapter Cable but am planning on picking one up later this week.
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I was asking if it was already built in, just wanted to know if it would perhaps work under the correct editions. If you're working on it, great! I just haven't seen any information regarding such. Oh, and at the time I posted that, I didn't have a Kindle Fire so I couldn't test it out myself. I also don't own an OTG Adapter Cable but am planning on picking one up later this week.
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I apologize.
I have just been getting bothered about a custom kernel alot and dealing with some unpleasant customers (i work retail) I was just overly irritated.
Again, I apologize to you and everyone else.
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Okay I have a few ideas on getting this to work, none of which are that difficult. I'm writing up an app right now to try it out, I should have it ready within the next couple hours.
However, I do have a problem, I have no HDMI cable! So can someone who has one get into contact with me on Gmail.
Just send me an email and tell me you'd be happy to test and as long as you'll get with me on GTalk once I send the app to you to discuss whether it works or not and any issues you have.
I'll update this post with more info when I'm done.
EDIT: First alpha sent to my 3 testers. Waiting for a reply from them before more info.
You probably got some volunteers already.. but I do have an hdmi cable and can help if needed.
Thx for working on this
guyver2077 said:
You probably got some volunteers already.. but I do have an hdmi cable and can help if needed.
Thx for working on this
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Actually I haven't had anyone email me yet, so if you wanna hit me up so I have your GTalk for later feel free.
Also, just a little more info, this will probably KILL performance while it is running, since it'll be a loop constantly copying frames from buffer to buffer, but it will probably still be usable. I don't know yet.
Be prepared, it may kill your cat, blow up your house, and then take over the world, all while creating as much heat as a nuclear reactor. (Or it may just work )
Added on Gtalk and email sent. Ready to help you test
Sorry for the delay. Even with the Android dev I've done I've never done anything multithreaded. I have to run the copier in another thread to keep the system from freezing, so I should still get it tonight, but it'll take a little longer than I thought.
Added you to gtalk. Just tested SlingPlayer w/ Evo over HDMI, no joy of course.
Eager to test your app when available.
Thanks,
LK
A quick trip to monoprice.com will net you a male to male mini HDMI to HDMI for about $6 shipped.
oRAirwolf said:
A quick trip to monoprice.com will net you a male to male mini HDMI to HDMI for about $6 shipped.
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As good as that sounds, it wouldn't do me any good
My only HDTV is an old rear projection 1080i that refuses to show 720p. It doesn't even have an HDMI input, it has a DVI, which I have an HDMI adapter for, but it still won't make it show 720p lol.
I need a new tv. Haha
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A quick trip to monoprice.com will net you a male to male mini HDMI to HDMI for about $6 shipped.
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Mini HDMI and Micro HDMI are different.
Okay so the first release is an epic fail. It tries to copy the frame, but it doesn't ever end up over HDMI. Also it takes too long to copy the frame to get smooth video, I can copy ~ 3-5fps max, which is ridiculous. There has to be a better way. And I may have it. Uno momento
ill add my name to the hat if you want to add more to this fun...
oops but im not rooted. so if you need rooted folks then i cant play.... :-(
Can you send the updated versions to the people you sent the beta to?
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where in the heck are you guys finding these HDMI cables?
marctronixx said:
ill add my name to the hat if you want to add more to this fun...
oops but im not rooted. so if you need rooted folks then i cant play.... :-(
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Yeah unfortunately root is required
And I've only send out one version so far, but I'm working on another right now that stands a better chance of working.
I'll keep y'all posted
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where in the heck are you guys finding these HDMI cables?
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Got mines rather quick from ebay.
They also have them on amazon from Amzer but they wont ship out for a while
tester
[email protected] would love to test this
Subscribing.. Been looking for this for my slingplayer.. -m
I got mine here, it shipped in good time and works perfectly. Also payed with paypal so far I haven't had my identity stolen or anything else crazy like that.
dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.37396
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Hows this coming
davidhill21 said:
I got mine here, it shipped in good time and works perfectly. Also payed with paypal so far I haven't had my identity stolen or anything else crazy like that.
dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.37396
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DX is the bomb!
Shameless plug: Get me DX points without any extra effort! Click these referral links instead: Same as davidhill21 ($12.20)
Cheaper one I found. Looks like a generic, while the one above is a brand-name copy. ($8.30)
I personally guarantee that when you order them, I will be happy.
Regarding the project: I'm really glad you're doing this. I can't test right now because I don't have a cable (I need more DX points, and then I'll get a free one) but I'm really glad to see this coming along.
So I'm thinking about makign the switch to sprint and getting the epic 4g but I'm wondering a few things... I always said I needed video out if I were to replace my Nexus and I'm kinda confused how it works on the Epic 4G.
What I want to do is have video/out out as regular RCA that I can plug into my car stereo for navigation on the dash... would the epic 4g have an output that would allow this? The only thing I've found is this DLNA stuff which really makes no mention for any hard-wire solutions
My 2nd thing is the tethering. I tethering at work to get my own private connection and have been doing this with my Nexus over USB (charges while it serves internet) the most effectively. The wifi thing is nice but not required because wifi usually drains the battery and usually doesn't yield the best broadband performance in my experiences. In any event, sprint charges for the extra ability to tether... but I'm wondering if custom ROMs will allow for at LEAST the USB tethering (built in to android) and hopefully the Wifi tethering as well.
Without reading tons of threads trying to identify the featuers of google vs this phone vs rom, I was hoping someone who has hands-on experience could comment on it.
Thanks!
BTthomas is currently working on a tvout for the epic on 2.2 but no luck has been made also he is waiting for the source so when ever the offical froyo source is here we will all find out to see if the drivers are in there. As of know there is no tv out working for 2.1 or any of the leaked 2.2 rom and we are all waiting for the source.
as for usb tethering there are many roms/kernals that support this as well as wireless tethering.
davidrules7778 said:
BTthomas is currently working on a tvout for the epic on 2.2 but no luck has been made also he is waiting for the source so when ever the offical froyo source is here we will all find out to see if the drivers are in there. As of know there is no tv out working for 2.1 or any of the leaked 2.2 rom and we are all waiting for the source.
as for usb tethering there are many roms/kernals that support this as well as wireless tethering.
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Sounds promising thanks for the reply... Is it true you can get videoout from the headphone jack? I read that somewhere but it was inconclusive. I figured there would just be an adapter or something but I'm not sure why they would mention the hardware support without the software functionality...
Zenoran said:
Sounds promising thanks for the reply... Is it true you can get videoout from the headphone jack? I read that somewhere but it was inconclusive. I figured there would just be an adapter or something but I'm not sure why they would mention the hardware support without the software functionality...
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That is what is being worked on.
Zenoran said:
Sounds promising thanks for the reply... Is it true you can get videoout from the headphone jack? I read that somewhere but it was inconclusive. I figured there would just be an adapter or something but I'm not sure why they would mention the hardware support without the software functionality...
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Like is said there is no working tv out period atm, im thinking we might only see one to micro usb to rca or micro to hdmi adapters working, as of now there is no working tv outs, hopefully we will have micro to rca and hdmi ability, or even the headphone jack however it is not know til froyo source is released.
Check this thread out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803335
i use USB tethering all the time just like your talking about with this in fact i would be using it right now but my POS Vaio cant power my external HDD and charge/tether my phone at the same time. thats the only down side i have with USB tethering & it has nothing to do with the phone thats a PC issue
Roebeet at slatedroid has a step by step for using the Xoom usb port for host mode: http://www.slatedroid.com/index.php...le-usb-host-mode-ie-thumb-drives-on-the-xoom/
and it is on days like today that I love my Xoom that much more. By the time the devs are done designing things for this tablet, it is going to be a whole new experience. I feel sorry for people that returned theirs after not even giving it real time to grow.
so this enables host mode, but can you switch back and forth between host and client?
I guess his new boot.img that enables the USB host will be a moot point with regard to the new update coming from Moto tonight. This sucks.
an update is coming?
joeski27 said:
I guess his new boot.img that enables the USB host will be a moot point with regard to the new update coming from Moto tonight. This sucks.
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Regardless of the update, we will still be able to run this great mod. There has been little work done on the kernel as seen on aosp. so all the kernels floating around will still work just fine. In fact, the only kernel work committed from upstream has primarily been bcm4329 work for the wifi only models.
Will this allow me to plug in my external hard drive?
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App
After I update I am going to run this bad boy
mattkeane88 said:
Will this allow me to plug in my external hard drive?
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Yes, if your drive is AC powered. And u get the cable. I will release this in my next kernel release with due credits given in my OP.
how hard would it be
To have the OC and USB host lines in the boot/root img?
I would love to have this and OC at the same time!
bigrushdog said:
Yes, if your drive is AC powered. And u get the cable. I will release this in my next kernel release with due credits given in my OP.
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how about portable external HD's that draw power through the usb cable. theese will also be supported too, correct?
The actual change is very minor from stock - a few extra lines in the init.rc and then the /etc/vold.fstab change.
10roller said:
how about portable external HD's that draw power through the usb cable. theese will also be supported too, correct?
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Going on my GTAB experience, it should work. But, there might be a size restriction -- 128GB, I believe (?) and of course FAT32. Again, going on memory here from the GTAB forums.
My external HDD's are all EXT3/4 so I usually don't test them against an OTG cable.
roebeet said:
Going on my GTAB experience, it should work. But, there might be a size restriction -- 128GB, I believe (?) and of course FAT32. Again, going on memory here from the GTAB forums.
My external HDD's are all EXT3/4 so I usually don't test them against an OTG cable.
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FAT32!!!! who uses that anymore?!?!
Anyone got a good link for the right cables. The last one I bought to add storage to my jailbroke apple tv failed miserably.
qw3r7yju4n said:
To have the OC and USB host lines in the boot/root img?
I would love to have this and OC at the same time!
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Yeah I think this might be needed, since it seems that the boot.img for USB host conflicts with the boot.img for OC, rendering your tablet wifi-less. Hope we can get a workaround for this
mattkeane88 said:
FAT32!!!! who uses that anymore?!?!
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(gets on soapbox)
Most of the vendors, unfortunately, because they can't hammer out a long-term solution they all can agree on. FAT32 is still used on flash-based devices because of this problem. And it is a problem.
MS, in its infinite wisdom, created exFAT to replace FAT32. But of course its proprietary and has to be licensed. Why couldn't they just open source it and allow it to used for free? That would be too easy, so they can't do that. NTFS is also proprietary, so getting OS's like Android and iOS requires reverse engineering. And HFS+ is, again, proprietary.
What would be best for consumers is that all the major vendors agree on an open-source standard (like EXT4?), and create drivers for their various OS's to support that standard. Then, we could migrate all new devices to that new standard and be done with this problem. Wouldn't that be wonderful?
(gets off soapbox)
Non zoom owner here, potiential in the future. I guess this mean flash drives not camera and phone etc or is it all the same? Wont different drivers b required?
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I think in the link the person has a link to eBay
strifejester said:
Anyone got a good link for the right cables. The last one I bought to add storage to my jailbroke apple tv failed miserably.
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I think in the link the person has a link to eBay
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Sold out and all the other ones on ebay will take weeks to arrive.
Anyone find a US site that we can buy one of these cables on?
Did anyone have the problem with WiFi breaking after flashing the boot.img? The only way I could get WiFi back was to boot a previous image.
Andy
Using the hack created by reobeet i decided to test something. I hooked up my evo and charged it Test it on your phone, lets see which work and how much power we can get out off the XOOM.
2011/04/03|12:08:29 AM|548mA|61%|3996mV|84.7ºF
2011/04/03|12:09:29 AM|524mA|61%|3996mV|84.7ºF
2011/04/03|12:10:29 AM|558mA|62%|4006mV|85.2ºF
2011/04/03|12:11:29 AM|554mA|63%|4014mV|85.2ºF
2011/04/03|12:12:29 AM|556mA|63%|4014mV|85.2ºF
2011/04/03|12:13:29 AM|500mA|64%|4012mV|85.6ºF
2011/04/03|12:14:29 AM|480mA|64%|4012mV|85.6ºF
2011/04/03|12:15:29 AM|552mA|65%|4025mV|85.6ºF
What's this now? You can charge your phone from the Xoom????
Well, without any hacks, I can plug a usb host cable in to the xoom, and then plug my standard USB cable in to the Host Cable and and the other side of the standard usb in to my phone. It then charges the phone.
Will also search for the hack bwcorvus refers to.
Glad it works without root. The hack has been pushed into all rooted kernels, so if you download any kernels from the dev section your good.
Its the mount usb drives hack...thumb drives.
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nice tip if i ever find myself in a bind.
bwcorvus said:
Glad it works without root. The hack has been pushed into all rooted kernels, so if you download any kernels from the dev section your good.
Its the mount usb drives hack...thumb drives.
Sent From My Evo
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Good point.. I should clarify 'without a hack'. I am likely mistaken as I probably am just too ignorant to know what 'hacks' are already built in to the system since I rooted and tiamat kerneled my wifi xoom last week. I just meant no 'additional' hacks today.
Plus my phone is rooted and has the phoenix rom. Sooo.. maybe they are already 'hacked'. So I don't yet know about a 'unrooted xoom' as mine is not.
UPDATE: From my personal perspective, my xoom already had Roebeet's hack. I verified by hoocking up a thumbdrive and the mount was already directed to the /usbdisk folder. What I realized I cannot yet do.. is to copy files from my phone's external sdcard.. to the xoom. Not that I would really need to... plus I could do it over BT if I really needed it.
Just saw this on Engadget...
[engadget]/2011/04/29/xoom-camera-connection-kit-makes-us-lust-for-photoshop-on-honeyc/
Any chance this functionality could be backported to the nook?
We lack true USB support on the Nook currently.
The hardware is there in nook but it might take a bit of time to get it to work, and right now its proving to be more and more difficult to do it. Till now no one has been able to get power across usb port and still have a working nook
hmm...maybe with a powered USB hub? anyway, I'd rather someone find a way to get SDXC cards working on the nook, I kinda wish I could walk around with 64 or 128GB of storage [drool]
rigy73 said:
The hardware is there in nook but it might take a bit of time to get it to work, and right now its proving to be more and more difficult to do it. Till now no one has been able to get power across usb port and still have a working nook
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Take a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105497&highlight=USB
BobK46 said:
Take a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105497&highlight=USB
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This topic is from back in april, lol. Not to mention USB host has been integrated in the OC kernel, and I believe the stable build now.
If they don't know by now they're just not in with the [email protected]@
Gin1212 said:
This topic is from back in april, lol. Not to mention USB host has been integrated in the OC kernel, and I believe the stable build now.
If they don't know by now they're just not in with the [email protected]@
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While it is true that the USB Host primary function has been incorporated into dalingrins 06/18/2011 Kernel, there is much more to implementing full functionality than that. The reference verygreen thread is a continuing update for the processes needed to implement USB functions.