GSM signal dropping and then disappearing? - HD2 General

I have had my HD2 since March 2011. It is unlocked, HSPL 2.08 and radio 2.15.50.14. Apart from the known issues with the Phone Canvas with later WM6.5 builds it has been fine. I have been cooking ROMs since my Wizard and then the Blackstone so I am reasonably experienced. I currently have my own custom build installed based on 5.2.23568.
For about a week now it seems to have developed a fault in that the GSM signal just drops off and then goes 'searching'. If I soft-reset the phone it will usually come back and then start to drop off again. If I disable the GSM radio and then re-enable it sometimes it won't enable immediately and might take three goes at the slider going green and then it asking for my PIN.
I have hard-reset, installed various different radios and recently re-flashed but the issue remains. I have also taken the case off the phone and ensured the 'touch' connecters are making contact with the antenna in the case housing. I ahave also reflashed te stock ROM and still the issue remains.
I have now reverted back to my Blackstone as it has become intolerable.
At the moment I have the Blackstone and the HD2 sat next to each other (both with Vodafone SIM cards installed) and the Blackstone has all 4-bars displayed and the HD2 has the 'Martini glass' searching symbol displayed.
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Its an eBay purchase but is more or less immaculate - it isn't something I can get my carrier to repair if it is a hardware fault.....
Any ideas

First (not trying to be rude) have you swopped sim cards to ensure its not a sim issue?
Next (I read on you trying different roms) task 29 and reinstall a stock win mo rom, its been known that on occasions failures are resolved by doing this, if it works they put your rom back on.
sadly thats the best I can offer

Like above check sim card fully & network for issues.
I had a very similar issue on my old Touch Pro, signal would go weak & sometimes overnight would loose conection & I would need to toggle flight mode & then all would be ok.
I started think that was likely hardware after calling network & tech support was convinced my device, well turned out was network prob & only linked to that one sim & how it registered to tower !
So check it out well.
Also you could try padding the back of the sim with some tape in case it is a sim contact issue ... & perhaps flash a stock ROM from SD so everwrite HSPL,Radio & also rilphone.dll will all be paired as should be !
All long shots but not much else left ... Good luck ...

I have similar problem. The phone has weak signal and it looses signal on weaker spots where other phones have full signal.
I have HD2 from US and I am in Europe. Maybe I should put some Europe RAdio?
Also sound is very low.

hrga said:
I have similar problem. The phone has weak signal and it looses signal on weaker spots where other phones have full signal.
I have HD2 from US and I am in Europe. Maybe I should put some Europe RAdio?
Also sound is very low.
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Take CARE when flashing radios as non compatible versions on a US T-Mobile HD2 could result in HD2 paperweight.
My HD2 seems on par with other devices I have compared it for reception strength & I use it in some weak areas without issues.
Have seen a few posts on weak reception so it is either a particular SPL Radio & ROM combo is to blame or hardware issue if unlucky ...

Thanks for the replies it's much appreciated.
Firstly I have swapped SIM cards around (Vodafone Contract SIM & Vodafone Pay&Go SIM) and the fault follows the HD2. I think it has to be hardware or somthing 'unique' with my IMEI number and it registering?
It seems bizzare as I can sit here and watch the signal bars gradually drop off and then it go to 'searching' whilst the Blackstone just sits there happily with 3-bars and never budges.
I am unsure how to approach Vodafone about it as its my own phone (not supplied on a contract) and I think they would be able to give me some technical information as to what's happening with the registrations.
Andy

ADB100 said:
Thanks for the replies it's much appreciated.
Firstly I have swapped SIM cards around (Vodafone Contract SIM & Vodafone Pay&Go SIM) and the fault follows the HD2. I think it has to be hardware or somthing 'unique' with my IMEI number and it registering?
It seems bizzare as I can sit here and watch the signal bars gradually drop off and then it goe to 'searching' whilst the Blackstone just sits there happily with 3-bars and never budges.
I am unsure how to approach Vodafone about it as its my own phone (not supplied on a contract) and I think they would be able to give me some technical information as to what's happening with the registrations.
Andy
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I would recommend try other network sims or a foreign sim & you can then connect to various networks (roaming) & test signal reception.
That is how I got evidence that it was my network (DTAC) at fault, luckily my network main Office is near my work office so I turned up & pushed the issue until they produced a technical individual with the required knowledge & gumption to help resolve the issue.
The Phone Techies are useless unless you get lucky & we are talking national lottery lucky here.
Chances of hardware are quite high too as a few threads along same issue as yours are around on HD2 reception.

It gets more bizzare - Since the Leo is just better than the Blackstone I decided to take both with me and keep the Blackstone as 'fallback'. Tuesday & Wednesday I worked in Hull and the Leo worked just fine. Went out to the pub last night and the Leo just wouldn't register. Over a period of about 15-minutes I tried soft resetting, taking the battery out etc but nothing. I gave up and left the phone on the bar whilst I was talking to someone and then 5-minutes later I get a text - check the phone and its got 3-bars of signal? I sent a text reply and then the phone seemed to be OK.
Today the phone has been in the same position at home where I took the photo above and its not lost connection all day (so far).
I don't know what to think but I still believe it isn't fixed....
Andy

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Preset wifi profiles on my Vario 2 = Free Hotspot access?

I was using my phone on my wifi connection earlier today, and I noticed in the Networks dialog there's a bunch of wifi connections already there (but I've not used the phone in town, and I've never even seen some of these wifi hotspot names before), so that got me thinking...
... Does the fact that I'm subscribed to Web 'n Walk as part of my tariff mean that I also have free access to any of the hotspots predefined in the list on my wifi networks screen?
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Anybody have the faintest clue as to why these are already in my wifi networks list?
Yeah, I've got an idea. It's 2nd hand or ex-display. considering no-one else has reported having these hot-spots pre-configured on their Vario2s, it seems logical or at least likely that the device has been used before.
i.e. returned under the 14 day guarantee that if not satisfied with the product, they'll take it back and squash the contract. look under 'device information' and then call duration. If the call duration exceeds your actual usage, then that prooves it. If however it matches your call usage (see you call history), then maybe just maybe, T-Mobile have introduced this to their extended ROM in newer devices, but I doubt it.
All calls: 27min, 30sec.
This about tallies with the amount of calls I've made (mainly to customer services to get stuff like HSDPA set up) and a query about my account, plus a call to my Dad and a couple of mates...
I did notice during the customisation process that there was a cab containing 'June 2006' in its filename... Here's my ROM and hw stats:
ROM: 1.21.110.3
ROM date: 06/19/06
Radio: 1.05.05.00
Protocol ver: 32.36.7010.04H
My boot screen shows (in red)
M05
S04
B06
D1.21
at the lower left of the screen, and then my Radio and ROM versions show up fleetingly before the device shows the Windows Mobile splash screen. The device also had its protective screen cover on, which I had to peel off - and didn't look like the screen had been touched or used. Of course, they could clean it...
... I don't think this was a refurb though. Course, I could be wrong. I suppose I'll have to go find a wifi hotspot, or maybe ring up T-Mobile cust. services and ask :/
My Vario II also has lots of preconfigured wifi networks on it.
When I received the phone I did check the calls in/out and they were both 0 mins and the phone was immaculate (no scratches, fingerprints etc..) so I would be surprised if it was a return.
I have no idea if these wifi settings relate to free hotspots though or whether you would still have to buy a wifi key if you happened to be in range of one of them. I will give it a go next time I am in a larger town, where I live I don't think there are any public wifi hotspots.
I'm in Brum, so I'll go check it out (there's a T-Mobile hotspot in the bar just outside my uni building, which is actually a student bar too, so I'll have just go and have a couple of pints and investimagate
yeah, mine had all those preconfigured too. think it's standard.
christopherwoods said:
All calls: 27min, 30sec.
This about tallies with the amount of calls I've made (mainly to customer services to get stuff like HSDPA set up) and a query about my account, plus a call to my Dad and a couple of mates...
I did notice during the customisation process that there was a cab containing 'June 2006' in its filename... Here's my ROM and hw stats:
ROM: 1.21.110.3
ROM date: 06/19/06
Radio: 1.05.05.00
Protocol ver: 32.36.7010.04H
My boot screen shows (in red)
M05
S04
B06
D1.21
at the lower left of the screen, and then my Radio and ROM versions show up fleetingly before the device shows the Windows Mobile splash screen. The device also had its protective screen cover on, which I had to peel off - and didn't look like the screen had been touched or used. Of course, they could clean it...
... I don't think this was a refurb though. Course, I could be wrong. I suppose I'll have to go find a wifi hotspot, or maybe ring up T-Mobile cust. services and ask :/
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Wow. Very interesting indeed. I'm glad to be wrong. I wonder what else you and the other guys have in your extended ROMs as this does indeed seem to be a part of Your ROM. Please let us know how you got on with the Hotspots investigation and beers.
My Vario2 came pre-loaded with eleventy million different wi-fi profiles and wondered about free hot-spot access myself but when I tried to access the hot spot at my local Starbucks it still asked me for a log on I'd & password - I tried the log on I have for My T-Mobile but it came back as invalid. My guess is you have to subscribe to hot spot access seperately.
I just noticed in my Programs list I have an Interactive menu (with the T Mobile logo superimposed over a picture of a SIM card)... Clicking it goes into an app called 'STK Service', which gives me an interactive menu.
I have the usual, Fun, Info, Music, Chat, Sports, Games, Text plus, Groups, Voicemail, t-zones (oh aye?) and Prepay topup...
So I click on t-zones, it shows a white screen with the text 't-zones' on it, and the soft keys turn into Yes and No. I click Yes, and it opens IE with a weird URL (all boxes, so in a character set I can't discern), then WM5 shows a dialog box with "Cannot connect with current connection settings. TO change your connection settings, tap Settings."
The plot thickens...
I have all of those access points as well. And mine is a brand new Vario II.
I emailed T-Mobile a while back asking this, and the other week I got a response:
Ross @ T-Mobile said:
Hi Christopher,
Thank you for your email about Wifi on your MDA.
The profiles on you phone are mostly T-Mobile related, there are some which are for T-Mobile in other countries, BT is also there as we have an agreement with them. The others are just large Wifi providers.
They are put on the phone just to make it easier for you to connect to them. They are not essential in any way to making your phone work and if you want to delete them it will not cause any problems.
I hope this answers your question, if you have any further queries please don't hesitate to contact us again.
Kind regards
RossT-Mobile
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Just a bit of preferential configuration on their part Only takes a minute to remove though, so it's ok.
I have the exact same pre-configured Wifi profiles on mine. I just deleted them.
me2
Yeah, I got a response a while back from T-Mobile - they are purely 'to help you connect to one of our hotspots more easily' for want of a better way of putting it.
I did a more custom install this time round when I got my replacement Hermes, and didn't install the CAB which sets up the access point SSIDs in the Wifi Network profiles... They now don't appear.
The TM rep confirmed that I didn't have access to the networks, they were just there as, effectively, shortcuts.
Not true
mackaby007 said:
Yeah, I've got an idea. It's 2nd hand or ex-display. considering no-one else has reported having these hot-spots pre-configured on their Vario2s, it seems logical or at least likely that the device has been used before.
i.e. returned under the 14 day guarantee that if not satisfied with the product, they'll take it back and squash the contract. look under 'device information' and then call duration. If the call duration exceeds your actual usage, then that prooves it. If however it matches your call usage (see you call history), then maybe just maybe, T-Mobile have introduced this to their extended ROM in newer devices, but I doubt it.
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Mine was brand new and sealed and came like this. There is another thread about it somewhere as I remember seeing it - it definately doesn;t mean it isn't new.
Totally brand-new Vario - and these (useful) profiles were included.
If you use BT's Total Broadband package (as I do) then you will have 500 free OpenZone minutes to use every month (something they do not advertise very much).
mackaby007 said:
Yeah, I've got an idea. It's 2nd hand or ex-display. considering no-one else has reported having these hot-spots pre-configured on their Vario2s, it seems logical or at least likely that the device has been used before.
i.e. returned under the 14 day guarantee that if not satisfied with the product, they'll take it back and squash the contract. look under 'device information' and then call duration. If the call duration exceeds your actual usage, then that prooves it. If however it matches your call usage (see you call history), then maybe just maybe, T-Mobile have introduced this to their extended ROM in newer devices, but I doubt it.
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No, it's so not true. I broke the security seal on the package. There was not a single finger mark or anything, you don't need to be a genius to tell if a phone is ex-display or 2nd hand.

1.64.08.21 Radio Incompatible for many!

This is the second phone i noticed this problem. After flashing my radio from 1.58.25.14 to 1.64.08.21 I'm only getting two bars at the network icon.
Even after reverting back to 1.58.25.14 I'm unable to get four signal bars as I use to earlier.
Can someone tell me what has gone wrong and how can I fix this?
Thanks!
EDIT: I have received many PM's and have read posts/threads mentioning the same issue that I have gone through. Please make this a STICKY, warning people from Asian countries not to flash Radio v1.64.08.21.
EDIT: Please bear in mind that my phone comes with the factory radio 1.58.25.14 whereas I have seen most of the devices on this forum come with the factory radio 1.58.21.23
*bump* anyone please help?
Jibreil said:
Can someone tell me what has gone wrong and how can I fix this?
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Fix what? Your mobile operator?
Henry_Lee said:
Fix what? Your mobile operator?
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Mate, that was NOT funny.
First read my first post properly and then care to answer... appreciate if anyone else can take a look into this.
Jibreil said:
Mate, that was NOT funny.
First read my first post properly and then care to answer... appreciate if anyone else can take a look into this.
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Your right, its noy funny.
Its VERY FUNNY.
Dont be stupid, its radio, its possible to changed by anything reason. Your flashing does not influence for it.
Henry_Lee said:
Your right, its noy funny.
Its VERY FUNNY.
Dont be stupid, its radio, its possible to changed by anything reason. Your flashing does not influence for it.
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Then can you explain why even after flashing back my factory radio i.e. 1.58.xx.xx the network remains to be low signaled?
What is your R G D figures reading? Cause mine D reads 1.52.PKD (or something like that, is that normal?)
Jibreil said:
Then can you explain why even after flashing back my factory radio i.e. 1.58.xx.xx the network remains to be low signaled?
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You need read something about GSM network.
But for begin, try read manual about elementary physics and radio waves.
I try think.... Sorry.
Henry_Lee said:
You need read something about GSM network.
But for begin, try read manual about elementary physics and radio waves.
I try think.... Sorry.
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I asked a simple query for which you just made stupid fun and haven't even answered properly because you can't even read the first post thoroughly.
I've reported your behavior to the Staff. Happy dissing people in the future looser!
Jibreil said:
Then can you explain why even after flashing back my factory radio i.e. 1.58.xx.xx the network remains to be low signaled?
What is your R G D figures reading? Cause mine D reads 1.52.PKD (or something like that, is that normal?)
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I also flashed 1.64.08.21 and it has no influence on my reception yet concerning GSM/UMTS network.
What Henry_Lee want's to tell you is: the loss of signal quality does not nessecarily have to be connected to your change of radio ROM. It could have different reasons, for example having more subscribers in the GSM/UMTS cell you are booked in.
The D figure you're asking for is AFAIK the ROM version (not radio ROM) in your device.
But: I flashed the mentioned radio ROM yesterday on WM 6 (not 6.1) and encountered the following problem: the signal quality icon did not change after logging on to network. So if I logged on with two/three bars it stayed that way until complete loss of connection. After changing to WM 6.1 it worked again properly. You could have the same problem which I had under WM 6.
Oh nearly forgot there was some kind of a work-around for updating the signal quality icon: tapping on the task bar to open the popup where you can view details of data connections, signal quality, volume and battery updated the icon.
And please calm down both of you. We're here to learn and not to fight.
Thanks friend. Appreciate your answer.
I flashed WM6 and WM6.1 ROM both im facing the same problem.
Besides the quality is so bad that if I move even a few cms from that location the signal drops completely.
Earlier, on the factory radio I had four bars constant no matter where I was moving about. May be a drop of one bar but never a complete loss of signal.
I noticed mine had dropped but this was due to it automatically enabling 3G (H Icon enabled) the signal went down to 2 bars however turning off 3G the signal was back at 4 bars. I guess mine is the signal strength on whatever type of service was selected. I do however think 1.64.08.21 to be the better radio rom.
Toxic17 said:
I noticed mine had dropped but this was due to it automatically enabling 3G (H Icon enabled) the signal went down to 2 bars however turning off 3G the signal was back at 4 bars. I guess mine is the signal strength on whatever type of service was selected. I do however think 1.64.08.21 to be the better radio rom.
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Is 3G Enabled by the Radio or the ROM. I'm asking you this because I flashed my Radio on my factory ROM and noticed the bars drop.
Can you tell me where can I disable 3G?
Thanks for your feedback.
Jibreil said:
Is 3G Enabled by the Radio or the ROM. I'm asking you this because I flashed my Radio on my factory ROM and noticed the bars drop.
Can you tell me where can I disable 3G?
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3G is enabled by ROM through radio. Meaning that if you have a radio not providing 3G capabilities your ROM wouldn't be able of using it. (btw by default 3G is enabled)
To your second question where to disable 3G:
Settings -> Phone -> Band (not sure if that's also the term in WWE edition, the one between Network and PIN2) -> Select your Networktype -> GSM
This will disable 3G completely.
Same Problem..
I have same problem..
When I use same simcard,
I have 4 of 4 bars on my PROPHET,
I have 2 of 4 bars on my POLARIS (I changed network type to GSM, before I had no bar !!)
Anybody has a solution?
Jibreil said:
This is the second phone i noticed this problem. After flashing my radio from 1.58.25.14 to 1.64.08.21 I'm only getting two bars at the network icon.
Even after reverting back to 1.58.25.14 I'm unable to get four signal bars as I use to earlier.
Can someone tell me what has gone wrong and how can I fix this?
Thanks!
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Same here. But this appear to be a cometic thing. Voice and video calls works nice and i've noticed no extra battery drains. Goods: bt speed doubled (112KB/s)
ycimpir said:
When I use same simcard,
I have 4 of 4 bars on my PROPHET,
I have 2 of 4 bars on my POLARIS (
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Your phones do not necessarliy connect to the same relay station at any given time.
And the number of bars is an estimation of your ROM-version and does not show the real signal strength at all.
You'll also notice that sometimes you start a call having one bar while having 3 or 4 when hanging up (relay station switched while phoning).
Sascha
Actually, 1.64.08.21 works very well in ChinaMobile, both WM6 and WM6.1(19202 and 19209). no BT issue, fastest GPS locate, due to there is no 3G support in China yet, can't test the 3G performance.
I think the issue which Jibreil mentioned happens on the individual device. maybe the device version(HK??ASIA??).
my polaris is the european version.
windirt said:
Actually, 1.64.08.21 works very well in ChinaMobile, both WM6 and WM6.1(19202 and 19209). no BT issue, fastest GPS locate, due to there is no 3G support in China yet, can't test the 3G performance.
I think the issue which Jibreil mentioned happens on the individual device. maybe the device version(HK??ASIA??).
my polaris is the european version.
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Yea, may be the case. Please bear in mind that my phone comes with the factory radio v1.58.25.14 whereas I have seen most of the devices on this forum come with the factory radio 1.58.21.23.
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I am in Thailand.
Always 4 bars.
vivi
I have no problem using 1.64.08.21 in both HK & Mainland China. Reception is as good as the original shipped 21.23 version.

Turn HSDPA mode off and "pure" 3G mode on

I've recently bought the HD2, former I ownt the TyTn II and th XDAII
Now I want to turn off the HSDPA data connection (The "H" icon appears in the taskbar) I only want to hav a "normal" 3G connection!
Can somebody help me to finnd the switch in the settings to do this!?
Cheers Chris
Why would you want to ruin your cellular data connection?
Connections > Advanced network...disable HSPA. Soft-reset.
Spike15 said:
Why would you want to ruin your cellular data connection?
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what he said...
why turn off the thing thats going to allow you to have much higher speeds?
spiderhider said:
what he said...
why turn off the thing thats going to allow you to have much higher speeds?
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1) If you're in an area with low to nonexistent HSPA, having it on will drain your battery immensely as it searches for signal as you're surfing.
2) Similar to #1, using EDGE or 3G will reduce battery consumption because data pulling will be less intensive.
3) if you're not doing a lot of streaming and only use your phone to read websites and/or update stock/weather/twitter/fb/etc, having it on EDGE or 3G produce similar results.
I can't believe I'm listing the options as to why the original poster would want to limit his data to just 3G, but I guess I shouldn't give too much credit to the kind of people who post on this forum.
HSDPA - isn't it working only under umts? I have EU HD2 - GSM model, should I turn it off permanently?
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HSDPA - isn't it working only under umts? I have EU HD2 - GSM model, should I turn it off permanently?
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uhh what? Do you have an "H" symbol on your HD2? If not, then there's nothing you should be worried about.
nor really an bump but
HSDPA is not very reliable once single levels get below 100/95dbm (or 2 bars some times 3 as it does not always update in real time)
other note if H is enabled the phone will waste time trying to connect to an H signal that's not there or mite just be in range but is not
on my HTC HD1 the phone works 95% of the time with UMTS basic 3g some calls are diverted, but with HSDPA it sucks more power and more of my phone calls get diverted on an daily basis (diverts to my other network phone when phone not connectible, not stating networks as its the phones Fault for connecting to an H or 3g when it should be on stepping down to 3g then 2g due to signal) norm as i use my phone for business use i leave the phone on 2g only so (my other phone that's an htc desire i norm do use the h on it as it tends to play nice and drop to 2g when it should normally)
any way my phone is not the issue as i have the benefit to disable H speed and use 3g (umts) on the htc hd1
i have the hd2 phone here right now but the phone keeps on insisting to stay on H when single levels are poor and resulting in txt'ing only working , forcing the phone onto 2g fix's the problem but norm 3g coverage is fine
is there any way to turn off H on the hd2 like the hd1 can or is there custom firmware that adds the option or adjusts it so its less aggressive
don't know why we are bringing this up from the dead, but I get great download speeds with only 1-2 bars of hspa (+). I can't see why I would want to turn that off.
And to the poster that says edge works fine for most things, most of my updates time out trying to update on edge.
nrfitchett4 said:
don't know why we are bringing this up from the dead, but I get great download speeds with only 1-2 bars of hspa (+). I can't see why I would want to turn that off.
And to the poster that says edge works fine for most things, most of my updates time out trying to update on edge.
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i hate edge.
the thread was never answered correctly (users posting on how good H is over 3g but from where i am its not so good as its turning the hd2/1 into an iphone 3 dropping calls wise when 3g/H is enabled) also turns the phone into an oven compared to umts mode and phone only lasts about an day with H enabled (2-3 days UMTS, 3-5 days 2g/GPRS depending on use)
3g?UMTS {most reliable for 3g} > HSDPA > HSUPA think there is an H+ as well for 7.5mb support
2g> gsm/gprs is king for keeping signal levels (EDGE unknown as I never get it but should be the same as GPRS) as there are more 2g towers then 3g or 3g/H towers, not cost affective to upgrade them all to 3g
one thing i not done yet is update the phones firmware as its still running on an 1-2 year old os this HD2 (uk t-mobile), the radio on it is 2.04 as well (my HD1 is 2 years or older) some one did post that it is in settings > adv network {was an older post that i found on google} that is missing on this currant HD2 phone i have
Most of the UK networks have not upgraded to edge around where I am so its GPRS or 3g/H
Some ROMs have the Advanced Network control panel applet in Settings/Connections where you can disable HSDPA and HSUPA.
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I believe the relevant registry setting is at registry key HKLM\Software\OEM\RIL - DisH (Where a value of 0 disables HSDPA/HSUPA, 1 enables HSDPA and 2 enable HSDPA/HSUPA, reboot needed)
That was very useful comment I try it when I get back home later on (should really update the firmware as well the HTC touch flow is quite unstable on it)
i dont know where the problem is.
start -> settings -> connections -> advanced network.
there u can choose "disable hsdpa / hsupa"
bling, u got no H anymore..
if u use sense, u have to go via the windows settings, u cant change that in sense settings tab i think
D4rkSoRRoW said:
i dont know where the problem is.
start -> settings -> connections -> advanced network.
there u can choose "disable hsdpa / hsupa"
bling, u got no H anymore..
if u use sense, u have to go via the windows settings, u cant change that in sense settings tab i think
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I know where it should be
It's not on this phone they removed the advanced network or never added it on this build on comes with the hd2 from t-mobile (phone has never been updated)
leexgx said:
I know where it should be
It's not on this phone they removed the advanced network or never added it on this build on comes with the hd2 from t-mobile (phone has never been updated)
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i would hate t-mobile for this.
so if ur not going to flash another rom, registry is probably really the only way
D4rkSoRRoW said:
i would hate t-mobile for this.
so if ur not going to flash another rom, registry is probably really the only way
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i have to ring him on his G1 phone, if i ring the HD2 i get 2 things that happen its not connect (5 secs then the peeps call not conencted) or he answers it and it disconnects after 2 seconds
mite flash the device i never done it my self so mite do it on my HD1 first as mine is running on winmobile 6.2
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i use an blackberry 8520 as an test at this time, was only £100 for it but i am missing the touch screen but like the idea of the 9800 having both screen and slide out pad but i prefer the windows phones input calendar points (hoping the win7 way be the same or like it)
that seems to have worked, did not seem to take it on the first reboot,was set to gsm only, set to auto was doing H still, still set to auto and powered down again and pulled the bat (prob did not need to) no h any more phone has constant 2-4 bars now on 3g (before 1-2 bar or drop call, on H if the phone was picked up 4 bars idle) can use phone and internet (was an fast call test was stable an clear not breaking up) should also stop it turning into an oven as well (as my HD1 does with H enabled), 3g is fine with opera as it has the turbo feature so web pages load fast still
give you rep if i could
i am not new to these forums but i have not done any messing with rom as my HTC HD1 one is currently just an unused PDA so i will have an go with it just need to look at the updating guides (need some class 6 sd cards as well all the ones i got are class 2 and are bit slow) if
once i have played with my hd1 i update the HD2 as that is an active phone (but needs updating on both phones as the default htc touch flow is an bit of an ram or cpu hog making the phone unstable, i disabled the touch flow on my hd1 as preventing phone call answer from working after 2-3 days as i needed it for business use but i like the default windows mobile layout anyway but i also like the htc layout when it works but must work all the time)

HD2 Handset or 3G Blackspot?

Right. You might remember I had connection issues with the HD2. I sent it off for repair, and it came back, but now displaying "3G+" at the top. This was super fast and everything was working fine. Now, all of a sudden it has gone back to 3G that is REALLY slow! Now, I see other people are having this problem. According to Vodafone, I am in a 3G blackspot and there is nothing I can do. If this was the case, I would never receive 3G+ in the first place, which they just ignore when I ask them about it. Could it possibly be the phone? I personally think Vodafone are just messing me around
Only 1 view? Any reply would be appreciated, this is an ongoing problem for me...
Edited : Was being a fool
Just because people look at it it doesn't mean they are going to have an answer i have seen some threads on here go unanswered for the best part of the day until someone comes on-line that actually has an answer, so just give it time, not every member knows what everybody else knows, that's why its a forum for people to club together and help each other out.
rant over
Oh ok, I'm sorry
Ok, so now Vodafone are ignoring me, which is just great (pfft). I would appreciate ANY help if there are any tips as to any procedures I could undertake. The HSDPA I was receiving just cut out the other night, and won't budge from 3G any more, not even to G or E, which is kinda annoying.
Have you tried it in a different area? You'll not get HSDPA coverage everywhere - that's normal. The way you're talking, seems like you're just sitting in your house testing it.
Of course I've tested it elsewhere. What you need to understand is though, I was receiving HSDPA full in my house for a good few days after I got the phone back from repair, now its just gone. All of a sudden, gone. I try doing the network selection process again, and the 3G+ flickers for a millisecond at the most, and then disappears. I don't know why this is happening, I used to get brilliant HSDPA connection wherever I went in Preston
Just to give you guys a glimpse of EXACTLY how bad the connection is, I ran a speed test on my phone via speedtest.net. Here are the results:
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There is DEFINITELY something wrong here, but what could it be?
Faz20 said:
Just to give you guys a glimpse of EXACTLY how bad the connection is, I ran a speed test on my phone via speedtest.net. Here are the results:
There is DEFINITELY something wrong here, but what could it be?
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What is wrong? that you're getting as-expected 3G speed (.38mbps is the equivalent of 384kbps 3G standard) or the fact that you're getting a 3G+ symbol but are only getting 3G speed? Just because it's showing 3G+ (im assuming that it's similar to HSPA) doesnt mean you're at the optimal cell distance to receive it. It may be VERY POOR in your case, so it bounce you down to 3G.
That's the thing, its not poor in my area. I mean, I don't think even standard 3G is as slow as I'm experiencing. A 12 second YouTube video taking a minute to buffer? www.google.com taking a LONG time to load, there's something wrong man. I feel like just selling this phone and getting a BB or something, I know the connectivity will be strong with that.
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That's the thing, its not poor in my area. I mean, I don't think even standard 3G is as slow as I'm experiencing. A 12 second YouTube video taking a minute to buffer? www.google.com taking a LONG time to load, there's something wrong man. I feel like just selling this phone and getting a BB or something, I know the connectivity will be strong with that.
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How do you verify? Do you have another vodafone nearby that you can test out?
That's the annoying thing, I can't test out my SIM in another smartphone, as this is the only one I have. I have however tried another SIM in my phone and there is the same problem. This is the reply I get from Vodafone eForum:
Hi Faz20,
If it was a site fault that was to blame for this before, then it's highly likely to be the same sort of problem again. Issues like this are rarely ever the fault of the handset.
I have checked the postcode listed in your profile, and can see there are three possible HSDPA sites around you, none of which are showing any open faults at this moment, so we'll need to raise a case to our Faults Team for this to be investigated further.
I've emailed you so that we can start this process off
Jon
eForum Team
What is annoying me is that they keep ignoring me when I say I was experiencing fine internet connection with smooth speeds, and it just suddenly cut out. They just change the subject ALL the time when I mention it :angry:
One more to remember: you have to consider the speed AND QoS as well.
Try another site, I'd google for visualvare my speed.
If you have poor quality of service (you have veeeery long ping) that means: your phone tries to download.. then waits.. then tries again.. and some packets are lost.... so tries again... and so on.
1699ms ping is quite a lot I imagine? As my puter is only like 0.6ms, but surely the phone can't have that big a difference. Is there anything I could do to lower the ping, I don't want to flash and cooked ROM's atm as I am very inexperienced and don't want to void the warranty.
Faz20 said:
1699ms ping is quite a lot I imagine? As my puter is only like 0.6ms, but surely the phone can't have that big a difference. Is there anything I could do to lower the ping, I don't want to flash and cooked ROM's atm as I am very inexperienced and don't want to void the warranty.
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Then you're simply in a 3G blackspot. I know it's disheartening for having an HD2 and stuck with ****ty data coverage, but that's what seem to be the problem right now. You have a seriously high ping coupled that with slow transfer speed would only dictate that you're not in an ideal area where 3G coverage is plentiful.
How would that explain that I was receiving fine connection speeds before? This is where my hair is falling out
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How would that explain that I was receiving fine connection speeds before? This is where my hair is falling out
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Maybe you're hallucinating that you had fast connection before? Maybe Vodafone thought that your area doesn't deserve the bandwidth and thus prioritizing the 3G speed for other, more robust, cities? Or maybe radioactive termites have run amok on the cell tower, causing you to not get fast 3G speed?
Who knows...
Nah, I can assure you I wasn't hallucinating, I stay away from the Magic Mushrooms
I just think Vodafone are a bag of s*it. All my friends with the same phone on O2, Orange are receiving HSDPA all the time. Its stupid
I'm gonna phone up Vodafone today and kinda go mad at them. The last time I phone they "escalated" the connection, maybe the reason why I was getting HSDPA all the time, wherever I went. Now suddenly its gone again. Quick question for you guys, when your phone is on 3G Full bars, how is the speeds. Are they quick and rapid? Do Internet pages load quickly? etc. etc.
Ok, so what do I get told when I ring up Vodafone. I have bad 3G coverage in my area (blatant lie). When I ask how do I resolve this? Buy Vodafone Sure Signal, £50 one off payment or £5 a month. Great way to resolve a problem, try to sell me something else, another one of Vodafone's probably bullsh*t products. Its so frustrating, having to live with a stupid network provider with such a beautiful phone!
Can I cry on someone's shoulder?

Data Network Mode

KE7
Is anyone else experiencing the Data Network just turns itself off when it likes .
Just wondered before I refresh again.
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KE7
Is anyone else experiencing the Data Network just turns itself off when it likes .
Just wondered before I refresh again.
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Yes... same issue. I have to reboot to have data network again.
I just had this happen to me for the first time as well..
Woke up this morning, unplugged the phone to see it had neither 3g or H showing in the top bar, and obviously no connection... had to reboot to get it back...
Them again about an hour our so later I was browsing and my signal kept jumping from 3G to H ... and then out of the blue they both disappeared and u lost internet...
Although this time I got it back by switching plane mode on and off..
Just 1 other thing... Is it normal for the signal to continuously move from 3G to H even if your in a full H signal area? My old desire HD just used to stay in H all the time if our could...
It never happened to me and i'm on KE7 since last week.
I'm on Orange network so I wonder if that has something to do with it as per the last firmware
Mines unbranded and unlocked... Using a t-mobile sim
I also upgraded top ke7 last week and today is the first time I've ever seen this happen..
Never in 24 days on all firmware O2 network.
jje
Same but i think it is due to the sh*tty Orange network....gawwwd when are they merging 3g network with tmo and 3...........
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Same but i think it is due to the sh*tty Orange network....gawwwd when are they merging 3g network with tmo and 3...........
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late summer i think.
Can't wait for that to happen. I will turn off roaming so that it doesn't hope onto T-Mobile . See if that helps
Yeah happened to me once, I'm on Optus Australia. I thought there was something wrong with Optus or my sim/apn settings. But when I went to reboot the phone I noticed data had switched itself off.
Hasn't happened since though, been on KE7 since the day after it came out...
Hmm this is strange . This seems to happen when the phone is switched off and on again . If you check the settings by holding down the on/off button it shows as disabled.
I have also noticed that it turns itself into off mode intermittently as well .
I have turned roaming off , made no difference ... The fix is to turn it back on again but as it turns the radio off without me knowing I would not like to miss any important calls etc.
Anyone else have any ideas . I'm sure its software related as wouldn't a hardware issue be more pronounced and permanent?
I still think its network dependent can any other Orange UK users confirm if they have the same issue ?
It hasn't happen to my SGS2 yet but I'm on orange UK for over 5 years now and it happen to several times including my last phone SGS1
Happened to meget aswell. Telmore, Denmark
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Just been using my mates O2 card and would you believe it ! It dont do it . Tried a Vodafone card and didn't do it either.
Im hanging a guess if could be my sim but will wait to see if other Orange Uk users can confirm the same issue.
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It hasn't happen to my SGS2 yet but I'm on orange UK for over 5 years now and it happen to several times including my last phone SGS1
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Hmm have you a new sim.since the sgs II . I wondrr if its an account setup issue as the sim I used use to be in an iphone
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New Sim ordered and my account is fine .
I am guessing this is a software issue with the radio as I see other data related problems are being threded
Generally orange 3G network the worse. Trust me. I've used O2, voda, tmob and 3. Orange boasts that they have best coverage. its true. They do.
But SIGNAL *****INTENSITY***** (POWER OF THE SIGNAL IS AT LEAST 3 TIMES SLOWER THAN VODAFONE)
this is a test between my sgs2 (orange) vs sgs (vodafone)
In central london.
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No point having the strongest router in the world if you have 2mb internet connection. That's how I sum up orange 3g network. Its a shame. No many people know this. I didn't until I signed up a 24 month contact with them...
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Does anyone know why Orange Network reads my nearest server as Birmingham?
when vodafone's network reads it correctly?
It was happening to me a lot, everytime the phone went to sleep on a 3G, H, H+ network. Now I disabled fast dormancy via the *#*#9900#*#* and my data is stable.

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