This has probably been addressed but here goes....
I partitioned a drive for W8, called it drive P. Loaded W8 and ran it, worked nicely and wanted to go install gag. Once I installed gag I ran W8 again and it worked ok again. Then I wanted to use my W7 and tried to get to it, and for some reason I have to go through the Windows bootloader. Where you get a dos style screen and have to choose between W7 or W8 (keep in mind this is after you make your selection using gag), I choose W7. It got stuck on the loading screen (the one where it ways "windows 7" below the windows icon. Had to turn off my comp cause it wouldn't get past that screen.
Then I went into W8, which loaded fine and opened the disk management. It said that my main hard drive partition which has W7 and all of my files on it was completely empty and no longer named the "C" drive. Now my drive with W8 was called the "C" drive.
So I ran uninstalled/reinstalled GAG and somehow I got back to W7 with all of my files there.
But im afraid to run W8 again since I feel like W8 needs to run on the C drive, and im worried I might actually lose my real C drive.
Can someone explain what is going on with my comp, and a safe way to boot between the two OS'?
Its built into windows 8.
This is what I did.
Used disk management within windows 7 to shrink the partition its currently on. Shrunk it 50g.
Now you will have an unformatted partition. Use mini partition tool to format to ntfs. Also assign the partition a drive letter. I used W.
Now use magic disc to mount the windows 8 ISO to the virtual drive.
Don't run setup. Open the drive so you can see the contents of the ISO.
Now in the sources folder run the setup.exe, Not the one on the root of the ISO.
Setup will start. Install windows 8 to the partition you just made.
Let windows 8 complete setup and get all the way to the desktop or metro UI.
Restart your computer.
During the loading you will come across a screen that allows you to choose the OS. Now by default it times out at 5 seconds. At the bottom of the screen you'll see choose default OS and other settings. Click that within 5 seconds.
Change that to whatever you want. I changed mine to 30 seconds to give me enough time.
I had a similar issue when cloning my drive to an external to take with me using pwboot. Windows 8 would load fine but windows 7 wouldn't. But worked just fine on my internal drive. Mostly just use my external to use my old gateway with a broken internal hdd. Seriously hard to find an old school 2.5" IDE hdd. But windows 8 couldn't install my video card driver for s-video out so I stuck with just windows 7 on my external and never figured out the problem. Dual booting on my aspire one works like a champ though.
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I recently installed Windows 8 x86 M3 using Daemon Tools from inside Windows 7. So Far I am loving it, but it has a few glitches, and I cannot install all of my programs since some of them are only for x64. Obviously I cannot run the install from within an x86 environment. I used the Windows USB/DVD Tool to format and copy the install files to an 8gb usb flash drive. It boots fine and I begin the install. However I get an error when I reach the time to choose a hard disk to install to. No Drives Found! I click browse to select the drivers and in the browse menu all of my disk drives are listed...I can even navigate to my chipset driver folder. When I get to the proper folder the driver for the nvidia chipset pops up. I click install, and Windows begins to install the drivers. After a few seconds it completes and then gives me the same error...No Drives Found!
I currently have my 2 SATA drives in IDE Mode. This is because I do not want to set up a RAID Array for fear of losing all the data on both drives. So I assumed in IDE Mode Windows shouldnt need a RAID driver.
Does anyone have any ideas to help me out with this? I was thinking windows 7 portable x64, but that requires a 16gb Flash drive...so I read. Maybe XP portable x64? Or just any clue how to get my drives detected?
what happens to me himself and tried everything copy the drivers on a CD but nothing
so to fix this i am considering switching to raid. i am goint to copy all of my data to my 1tb hdd. then add my 2tb hdd to the raid array by itself. my question is can i mount the 1tb sata hdd, not in the raid array, to copy the data to the new raid array before converting the 1tb hdd to raid? or can this only be done with usb or in linux?
i had this problem and it turned out to be a buggered download of the ISO, re downloaded it and it worked fine.
cant promise it will work for you but im chuffed with it now and thats the only thing i did
Sorry if I miss understand you, but are you trying to install 32bit Windows 8 on an 64x Machine? And the Disk Image is a 32bit Version?
Try Downloading the 64bit Developer Preview from Microsoft. Then use the Windows 7 USB Download tool and create a install drive from the ISO file. Reboot and it should work. I've run into this before an it's usually when I use a DVD.
I'd link you to the ISO's and USB tool but I'm a new user :C
So I'm considering throwing in my first SSD. I'm looking at nothing too fancy (OCZ Vertex 4 128GB SATA3 6GB/s, Read: 560MB/s, Write: 430MB/s).
I already have Windows 8 Pro installed and activated on a 500 Sata HD. I'd ideally like to throw in the SSD and have Windows running off of that. Now I've already seen a lot of posts recommended a clean install. Which I'd like to avoid if possible. I'm wondering if I could say, create a back up image of my C: from my SATA drive, wipe everything, install the SSD and do a fresh Win 8 install. Then once I'm up and running restore that image.
Or use some other Windows 8 recovery feature to back up files, settings and apps.
Anyone know if this is possible within Windows 8? I'm ultimately trying to avoid as much reinstalling of apps and programs as possible.
It doesn't hurt to find out. Do your image backup, pull out the HDD, plug in the SSD, and restore. If it works, great. If not, plug the HDD back in and figure out an alternative.
I don't see why that wouldn't work, other than Win8 installing any needed driver for the SSD, and perhaps a re-auth, since a HDD change qualifies as a "major" config change.
I'm assuming you already have a good image backup program handy.
So I guess I'd lose my activation key?
Try reading some articles about it? I have no experience with it so i have no idea:
http://lifehacker.com/5837543/how-to-migrate-to-a-solid+state-drive-without-reinstalling-windows
why don't you just ghost the drive this is what I do. I forget the name of the software I use but it is free and really easy and you can ghost the drive you on as it runs before windows boots. I will update once I have found the software as its been a while since I needed to do this.
edit: I don't have it on my laptop and I wont be back to work till Monday but if you google clone hard drive there are many options. You want one that will clone the running partition.
http://www.easeus.com/disk-copy/home-edition/
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So I guess I'd lose my activation key?
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Although I have never tried it, you can backup your windows activation activation following this:
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/35737-GUIDE-How-to-backup-and-restore-Windows-8-activation
or just clone the harddrive like I said then its all just as if it was on the old you just plug new one in and off you go, then format the old one once tested. 2 points on this your going back into same hardware so that does not matter and windows 8 you can take the hdd out of a pc plug it into diff hardware and off you go after a slightly longer boot. I have swapped from an amd fx based desktop and put into an intel Centrino laptop and worked. I did this after cloning the drive so both desktop and laptop have activated windows 8 from same cloned hard drive (bit odd though as seems to avoid the need for keys and could be a work around to distro win 8)
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So I'm considering throwing in my first SSD. I'm looking at nothing too fancy (OCZ Vertex 4 128GB SATA3 6GB/s, Read: 560MB/s, Write: 430MB/s).
I already have Windows 8 Pro installed and activated on a 500 Sata HD. I'd ideally like to throw in the SSD and have Windows running off of that. Now I've already seen a lot of posts recommended a clean install. Which I'd like to avoid if possible. I'm wondering if I could say, create a back up image of my C: from my SATA drive, wipe everything, install the SSD and do a fresh Win 8 install. Then once I'm up and running restore that image.
Or use some other Windows 8 recovery feature to back up files, settings and apps.
Anyone know if this is possible within Windows 8? I'm ultimately trying to avoid as much reinstalling of apps and programs as possible.
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Are you more worried about your desktop apps or your RT apps? If you have signed in with a Microsoft account and you are on your Trusted PC, your RT app settings will transfer to the new installs and you already know most RT apps install super fast.
If you are worried about your desktop apps, they will install much faster on an SSD drive and just make a backup copy of your "AppData" folder. That's what I did when refreshing my PC caused a bunch of errors and I re-installed.
Windows 8 uses different algorithms for SSDs than for HDDs so ghosting your drive is a bad idea.
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Are you more worried about your desktop apps or your RT apps? If you have signed in with a Microsoft account and you are on your Trusted PC, your RT app settings will transfer to the new installs and you already know most RT apps install super fast.
If you are worried about your desktop apps, they will install much faster on an SSD drive and just make a backup copy of your "AppData" folder. That's what I did when refreshing my PC caused a bunch of errors and I re-installed.
Windows 8 uses different algorithms for SSDs than for HDDs so ghosting your drive is a bad idea.
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True, the RT apps will come back after the install.. I guess I was more concerned for the 15 to 20 games I had installed. I'm looking at a good 4-6 hours of re-install time to get it back to the same state I'm at now. All personal items are backed up externally so I'm ok there.
I guess I've considered just re-installing from scratch now. But last question is will I need to re-activate Windows 8 if I'm adding an SSD? Since I'll be formatting my current HDD, installing an SSD which I'll want the OS running off of I guess there's no way to do a fresh install and keep activation since I'll be formatting the drive the OS is on.
Can I hypothetically, install the SSD initiate a Windows "reset" and hope that it gives me the choice to format my old HDD and install to the new SSD. For some reason I think not. Or do I need to image my C: drive, install the SSD then copy the image over then do a reset? I'm so confused..
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True, the RT apps will come back after the install.. I guess I was more concerned for the 15 to 20 games I had installed. I'm looking at a good 4-6 hours of re-install time to get it back to the same state I'm at now. All personal items are backed up externally so I'm ok there.
I guess I've considered just re-installing from scratch now. But last question is will I need to re-activate Windows 8 if I'm adding an SSD? Since I'll be formatting my current HDD, installing an SSD which I'll want the OS running off of I guess there's no way to do a fresh install and keep activation since I'll be formatting the drive the OS is on.
Can I hypothetically, install the SSD initiate a Windows "reset" and hope that it gives me the choice to format my old HDD and install to the new SSD. For some reason I think not. Or do I need to image my C: drive, install the SSD then copy the image over then do a reset? I'm so confused..
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You can type in your serial and it will fail to activate by internet. Select to activate by phone and it should work, deactivating your old, erased installation.
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Ok guys let me give you a little background first.
I have a Lenovo Laptop and i wanted to upgrade to Windows 8. Lenovo puts alot of their own programs and stuff on the computer that were actually quite useful at times but they posted a pdf on their website that told me to uninstall 10 billion programs and drivers so I decided to install Windows 8 on a new partition I made which I then installed Windows 8 too without a hitch. I also did this because I didnt know how I would feel about the new OS but I really like it so i'm going to stay with it.
BTW I'm not savvy with this partition stuff at all. I was walked through it. I'm not a total noob though. i just get nervous.
My question to you guys is how can I remove the Windows 7 OS completely and merge that storage with my Windows 8 OS.
I have read its not as simple as just deleting the Windows 7 partition. I have read that if you delete something called a bootmgr (im pretty sure that means bootmanager)it will screw everything up and that it is sometimes in different locations.
I'm attaching a photo of what my drives look like currently. I'm guessing the bootmgr is on the partition with the red arrow pointing to it? If I am correct how do I add the Windows 7 partition (yellow arrow) to the Windows 8 partition (blue arrow)
The photo was taken from within the Windows 8 OS. i hope I have been clear enough for you guys.
You can delete your Windows 7 partition because Windows 8 now controls the bootmanager. Also, If you do delete the partition and boot manager is erased, I can walk you through restoring it. Plus the disk you burned to install Windows 8 with contains recovery tools that can restore the it. Just boot from the disk like you did when you installed Windows 8 and instead of selecting install now choose "Repair my computer" or "Fix problems that prevent Windows from starting". Microsoft has done a good job of making stuff like this recoverable from. Also, make sure you make a System Restore point. If you have an external drive you can also make a "recovery disk" in Windows 8 that will make an exact copy of the partitions of your choice. It takes a lot of space and will completely wipe the drive, so be sure to save any important files on the external drive before doing this.
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You can delete your Windows 7 partition because Windows 8 now controls the bootmanager. Also, If you do delete the partition and boot manager is erased, I can walk you through restoring it. Plus the disk you burned to install Windows 8 with contains recovery tools that can restore the it. Just boot from the disk like you did when you installed Windows 8 and instead of selecting install now choose "Repair my computer" or "Fix problems that prevent Windows from starting". Microsoft has done a good job of making stuff like this recoverable from. Also, make sure you make a System Restore point. If you have an external drive you can also make a "recovery disk" in Windows 8 that will make an exact copy of the partitions of your choice. It takes a lot of space and will completely wipe the drive, so be sure to save any important files on the external drive before doing this.
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This article told me the partition that is marked as active has the bootmgr on it. Is that correct?
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This article told me the partition that is marked as active has the bootmgr on it. Is that correct?
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I think it is inside Windows 8. If you have Windows 7 installed and then install Windows 8, all the boot operations are handled by Windows 8 unless you have a third party boot manager installed or a Linux partition that would use grub. You are safe to delete the Windows 7 partition. It won't screw anything up. You are over thinking and over reading. If this partition WAS the one handling the boot operations, then as soon as you installed Windows 8, that changed. Just delete the Windows 7 partition and extend the Windows 8. You will probably have to do it during a boot up and it will probably take a third party program like Paragon Partition manager free or gparted live cd, but it's not going to screw up your bootmgr. Only way that would happen is if you deleted a Linux partition.
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This article told me the partition that is marked as active has the bootmgr on it. Is that correct?
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yes, the active partition must be the boot partition
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I think it is inside Windows 8. If you have Windows 7 installed and then install Windows 8, all the boot operations are handled by Windows 8 unless you have a third party boot manager installed or a Linux partition that would use grub. You are safe to delete the Windows 7 partition. It won't screw anything up. You are over thinking and over reading. If this partition WAS the one handling the boot operations, then as soon as you installed Windows 8, that changed. Just delete the Windows 7 partition and extend the Windows 8. You will probably have to do it during a boot up and it will probably take a third party program like Paragon Partition manager free or gparted live cd, but it's not going to screw up your bootmgr. Only way that would happen is if you deleted a Linux partition.
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Err, no, that isn't always true, my Boot files are on a separate partition to my Win 8, if I delete my Win 7 I will lose the ability to boot, of course its fixable with the Win 8 DVD. Win 8 does take over the boot manager as is fairly obvious, but it doesn't change the location, its for this very reason that when installing multiple copies and versions of windows you always start with the oldest, each successive install will update the boot manager but it will leave it in place, unless of course you install Linux which can and will screw it right up an around the corner if your not very careful!
It's been stuck on this screen after I deleted and extended the drive with ease us partition manager. It rebooted I saw the lenovo bios screen then the Windows logo. Then this screen showed up and hasn't moved for about 2 hours. I'm guessing I got screwed.
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I've been having an absolutely horrendous time installing Window 8 onto an SSD i bought. Let me give you a rundown of what's going on.
I bought a 120gb SSD off of my friend for a new laptop I was getting. My intentions were to replace the 1TB HDD in this laptop with the SSD and use the HDD as an external, so I can have massive speed increases in everyday computing activity. Originally, I thought the laptop had 2 hard drive bays, making it simple to install Windows onto it. However, due to my negligence to pay attention, it turns out that this laptop only has 1 hard drive bay. So next, I say, "oh simple, I'll just get an external HDD enclosure and install windows that way." Nope, cockblocked by Microsoft on this one; I figure out the hard way that one cannot install Windows onto a device via usb. I then researched some more and found "Windows 7 USB DVD Download Tool". I tried installing Windows onto a flash drive, but then accidentally formatted my camera's 16gb memory card losing hundreds of pictures. In vain, I should add, since it didn't even work in the end. Currently, I am stuck on how to install windows 8 onto my external SSD to later swap with the internal HDD. Hopefully this paragraph made sense lol. Any help here is greatly appreciated.
You've got the enclosure you need for the 1TB drive, right? What's stopping you from swapping the drives now, and installing the OS on the SSD when it's mounted internally? Alternatively, create a new partition on the current drive that is the same size or smaller as the SSD, and then install Win8 there. You can then copy that partition (the whole thing, using something like dd on linux) to the SSD, although getting the bootloader to come along for the ride would be tricky.
Also, with all due respect, if you managed to lose hundreds of pictures that weren't yet copied off the camera card while attempting (and failing) to install Win8 on a flashdrive, this might be a "don't try this at home" moment. I'm sorry for your loss, and I realize it was probably a very simple accident - confusion of which drive you were targeting, perhaps - but messing around with disk partitioning and advanced installation techniques without somebody who knows what they're doing guiding you is a dangerous idea.
Windows 2 Go locks down a number of system features, which limit its usefulness as a day-to-day OS. There's some configuration in the registry that controls this, so you might be able to use the W2G installation and then "fix" it, but you may want to do some research into W2G before attempting this.
I guess one could call me a noob when it comes to Windows lol... my expertise is Android
So I can swap the ssd and hdd while the computer is running? Wouldn't that cause all sorts of errors? Because when I tried swapping them, I couldn't get windows to boot from the hdd (which was in the external enclosure)
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Take the HDD out. Put SSD in. Put windows install disk in (not upgrade disk, most disks sold are upgrade only, you need install). Boot from instrall disk, follow instructions.
The hard disk replacement can only be dome when powered off. SATA devices do not support hit swapping and may even be damaged by it.
We ignore the HDD completely. Once win8 is on the SSD then you can put the HDD in the USB enclosure, plug it into your laptop now running win 8 and retrieve your files.
Copying wijndiws between different hard disks rarely works in my experience.
Oh, for the SD thing. Partitioning SD cards is not recommended, not all laptops can boot from SD either so it may have been completely futile.
If you don't have an install disk (only upgrade), you can copy the contents of your current Windows OS volume onto the SSD and then do the swap, which should cause the installer to think you already have Windows installed (if perhaps in a corrupted form). If you can do a full partition clone, then it needn't even be a corrupted copy; you could simply clone Windows onto the SSD (it may demand to be reactivated if you do this; ignore that) and then use an upgrade install.
Contrary to the name, upgrade installs do not need to be in-place upgrades; you can in fact wipe the entire SSD (and I recommend you do so) using the advanced install options once the installer has verified that these is (or was) a Windows install there.
I've done it on my HP DV6, the process was with a samsung ssd to clone the hard drive on the ssd with the program furnished by samsung. I expect there are other programs doing the same. I used a second external HD to take the files that didn't enter the SSD (256 GB).
Then I swap the disks (SSD internal) and I replace the DVD reader by the old HD repartition and format it (Now I use an external DVD Writer.
Then I upraded with win 8.
Take a bit of time but works
I hope it helps
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Hi guys,
I've been doing the above ^^ for some time now. I've been using W8.1 as the main OS for my notebook. Yesterday I rebooted into Win7 to poke around. Every time that it said 'Starting Windows' it bluescreen (very rapidly) and restarted.
I tried the disc auto-repair, and this cut the bridge to W8.1 of course. When I tried Win7 it then said that there was another problem. The logon screen appeared, as if in safe mode, then produced numerous errors about being untable to log on or start logon services. I could not resolve this.
I eventually decided to try the manufacturer inbuilt restore of Win7 while leaving data alone. This seemed fine until it says 'preparing Windows for first use', then it said that the installation was interrupted (not by me or power use). I tried this several times but no use.
Shortened, I could not get back into Win8, I tried all the repairs, though it should only have been a bootloader issue, right? The Win8 bootloader will look back and see Win 7 and offer both. I formatted that partition, reinstalled Win8 on that partition, removed all data from the Win7 drive and then tried a complete reinstallation of the entire hard disk with the manufacturer restore disks. This worked.
I would like to poke around with W8.2 when it comes in the Spring. I need to understand what happened. My top two guesses are:
1. Minitool Partition manager, I suspected that program of being ... ruthless in hard drive partitioning and resizing in the past.
2. Perhaps some incompatibility coming from Win8?
Any ideas? I would be very grateful if anyone has any ideas.
Were they installed on completely separate partitions (i.e. not sharing any files at all)? If they were sharing a file system, the NTFS permissions could have gotten messed up and blocked access from one install or some such silliness...
Why were you using a third-party partitioning tool? Windows has been able to shrink NTFS partitions - even mounted ones! - just fine (and quite safely) since Vista.
I'm afraid I haven't got any other ideas based on what you've said so far.
Hmm well about 95% of data was on the C Win 7 drive and Win 8 linked into it, as if it were a data drive.
With the inbuilt partitioning tool, it never allowed me to say, shrink drive C and expand drive D. I can shrink C and leave a slice for another OS, but not expand it in the future ... perhaps it's a manufacturer lock? If it were a permission problem, it would be best to create a third partition as a data drive?
Thanks for the feedback.