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[Q] Build Quality or OC Stability

Ok, so I ordered 2 Tablets by mistake.
1. Has great build quality. In fact, it is perfect, but only OC's to 1.4ghz
2. Has squeeky build quality but has an OC of 1.6ghz and has been stable for over a day.
Which one do I keep?

#1
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#1, for sure! 1.4ghz OC stable is a good result, and more than fast enough.

It depends, what are the build problems in the "crappy built" device?

keep #1. What makes you want a faster clock speed?

It squeeks when you fold it firmly.

What kernel / ROM are you using on your 1.4 GHz?
Also note that the kernel could fix 1.4 GHz as your max clock.

I'm using Prime 1.4 with Clemson 1.8a to get the 1.4 and 1.6.

robfactory said:
I'm using Prime 1.4 with Clemson 1.8a to get the 1.4 and 1.6.
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Honestly, I don't even see a need to OC. It's fun to play with, but it's not something I'd use all the time. So I would just stick with #1.

Prime 1.6 + Netformer vs Revolver 1.1(2)

Has anyone got any opinions on performance with either firmware? In terms of how fast/well they perform. FC issues and battery life?
I am currently using Prime 1.6 (without Netformer). Revolver has OC from Netformer built in. I'm trying to figure out which has the best performance/battery. Prime 1.6 with Netformer or Revolver.
If you think Clemsyn is better you can also throw that into the mix. Maybe we should have a shootout using some benchmark apps

netformer at 1.4 is realy fasy
I've installed it just yesterday, and changed the wallpaper to a regular pic (not live), and i gotta tell you the thing is just flying!
i've set the cpu to 1.4 - i could go up to 1.6, but i guess that will have a huge impact on the battery and the temp as well...

Im runing revolver right now and i hinks its pretty good. i have only had my pad for 4 days but have tried out most of the roms and kernals already. best preformance and battery seems to be revolver 1.1.1 (1.1.2 was just a test to see if his OTA app worked) with the elite tegra 18 kernal. not sure if that will work on your i have been told it is unstable for most people who dont have an elite processor. i have model b70 so that might factor into what kernal is best for you
Edit: Benchmarks
Antutu 6393
Linpack 95
Quadrant 3950
Vellamo 1882
Cf Bench 15373,3626,8324

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Vellamo 11882
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Don't tell me it's 10 times faster than an already overclocked TF in Vellamo. I've seen several reports from people with 1.4-1.6Ghz, and they all are in 1100-1300 range, getting 1195 myself @ 1.4.

mrevankyle said:
Im runing revolver right now and i hinks its pretty good. i have only had my pad for 4 days but have tried out most of the roms and kernals already. best preformance and battery seems to be revolver 1.1.1 (1.1.2 was just a test to see if his OTA app worked) with the elite tegra 18 kernal. not sure if that will work on your i have been told it is unstable for most people who dont have an elite processor. i have model b70 so that might factor into what kernal is best for you
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Antutu 6393
Linpack 95
Quadrant 3950
Vellamo 11882
Cf Bench 15373,3626,8324
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minor nit pick: kernel
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Revolver is really fast, I'm running at 1.5 GHz. I haven't tried out Prime 1.6 yet.

I'm on prime 1.6,i havent tried revolver or netformer,of course i am using nets kernel @ 140000GHz,runs real smooth,even with my live wallpaper,battery doesnt drain too fast.I like running the themes and most of them are only made for prime 1.6.

GwynBleidd said:
Don't tell me it's 10 times faster than an already overclocked TF in Vellamo. I've seen several reports from people with 1.4-1.6Ghz, and they all are in 1100-1300 range, getting 1195 myself @ 1.4.
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sorry hit the 1 twice. its at 1.64 ghz and getting about an average of about 1800

bench score

Hello,
What is your bench score with QUADRANT BENCHMARK
the mine is 1550 with hc3.1 OTA, Villain_iconia_kernel_2.5 kernel

Quandrant Score : 3423
Acer Iconia A500
Villian_Iconia_Kernel 3.2
LightSpeed Rom
over clocked to 1.4ghz

MrTonyToca said:
Quandrant Score : 3423
Acer Iconia A500
Villian_Iconia_Kernel 3.2
LightSpeed Rom
over clocked to 1.4ghz
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How does it get that high? Mine is oc. To 1.5 and my highest is 2100!
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monkey10120 said:
How does it get that high? Mine is oc. To 1.5 and my highest is 2100!
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I don't know, It might be the Rom.....Its the newest version of the Light Speed Rom....OC'd to 1.4ghz using SetCPU Ondemand governer , with the Honey Villian_Iconia_Kernel 3.2, thats the highest I've gotten but since I've flashed both it has ranged from 2800-3300

[ROM][26/08]Lightspeed_1.0.2[HC3.2]
[KERNEL] Stock/HV/Taboonay V3.3 for HC 3.2 07-09 - 1.64Ghz/UV control

quadrant is very unreliable. to some searching on it, it is easy to manipulate I/O or other factors just get high scores. Doesn't really mean it is a great ROM/kernel combo. I've seen posts where people can get their quadrant score upwards of 20,000. All benchmarks apps have their pros and cons but from i've been told/seen in threads CF bench and vellamo seem to be the most reliable.

mburke178 said:
quadrant is very unreliable. to some searching on it, it is easy to manipulate I/O or other factors just get high scores. Doesn't really mean it is a great ROM/kernel combo. I've seen posts where people can get their quadrant score upwards of 20,000. All benchmarks apps have their pros and cons but from i've been told/seen in threads CF bench and vellamo seem to be the most reliable.
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I've also tried Smartbench 2011, since it measures both cores instead of one and push around 4400 there.....Im loving the speed on this thing....

What is the fastest least buggy rom with best battery life and OCing

So many to choose from and i don't have any experience other then Virtuous Picasso 1.1.0. that is the only one i've flashed. Does it hurt your tabby installing new roms constantly over and over again. Just seems like something at some point would get corrupted or something. I don't know.....lol This is very new to me.
What rom is everyone using.

I was wondering the excact same thing,maybe everyone's waiting for an acer 3.2 update.I'm on virtuous picasso 1.1 also,I was hoping for a vp update as that rom seems pretty good so far.Anyone know when we'll see anything as good or are there better that you guys use like taboonay,etc? Thanks.

you will ALWAYS get different answers to this question. It all depends on how you use your tablet. Your best option is try them out and see for yourself. Load the ROM use it for a day try a kernel see what fits your needs, don't rely on other peoples answers.

joegreen1967 said:
I was wondering the excact same thing,maybe everyone's waiting for an acer 3.2 update.I'm on virtuous picasso 1.1 also,I was hoping for a vp update as that rom seems pretty good so far.Anyone know when we'll see anything as good or are there better that you guys use like taboonay,etc? Thanks.
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Hey question for you since your using the same rom. Does your Tablet turn off at night by itself. I used my tablet all day and at night I charge it while i sleep. When i wake up in the middle of the night i unplug the tabby if the power button is white meaning peak charge and then go back to sleep. when i get up in the morning the tablet is turned completely off and the battery is around 90%.........i don't get it. does yours do this?

I'm on Taboonay and loving it...
Currently using Taboonay 3 and richardtrip's 3.3 kernel.
Loving the speed and stability. Good power usage despite being OC'd to 1.5ghz. Had to apply patches to get Netflix going and still having ALL cameras intact.
Needed alt wpa supplicant file to enable adhoc networking...
... But yeah. Good ROM. I'd highly recommend it.
Some people were having issurs with the install, but I followed the instructions CAREFULLY and had zero issues...
Good luck!

Achristocat said:
Currently using Taboonay 3 and richardtrip's 3.3 kernel.
Loving the speed and stability. Good power usage despite being OC'd to 1.5ghz. Had to apply patches to get Netflix going and still having ALL cameras intact.
Needed alt wpa supplicant file to enable adhoc networking...
... But yeah. Good ROM. I'd highly recommend it.
Some people were having issurs with the install, but I followed the instructions CAREFULLY and had zero issues...
Good luck!
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+ 1 on this.
It's the best rom i've ran. Stability and performance, least amount of bugs. highly recommend.
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Can you give me links. I don't get the whole kernel thing.........i flashed a rom because it was like wipe and flash....lol how do i flash a rom and a seperate kernel.......
do you have links to the rom your using and then the kernel so i can check out the instructions and get the right one.
Did you mean Taboonay 2.0 and richardtrip's 3.3 kernel?

JiggaGeazY said:
Did you mean Taboonay 2.0 and richardtrip's 3.3 kernel?
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That's what he meant. I'm also running the same combo and I love it.

prophetic said:
That's what he meant. I'm also running the same combo and I love it.
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so how do you install a kernel? Do i go through the same process wipe all, flash taboonay 2.0 rom reboot into recovery and then just flash the new kernel the sameway i flashed the rom without the wipe and stuff?

I'm running Taboonay and richardtrips kernel but I found that when I intstalled the latest version youtube wouldn't work. So i reinsatlled the earlier version of the kernel and now youtube works fine. Bit starnge but a few others had the same problem. I'm also haveing problems with the keyboatrd on the site here. No matter which keyboa$d i use the back/delete button doesn't work hence all the typos here
Not sureif this is a kernel/rom/site issue?

Taboonay 2.0 using richardtrips 3.4 kernel (3.4 addressed h.264 playback and overclocking stability)

stock 3.1
Rooted via IconiaRoot - Richardtrip's kernel installed - max cpu set to 1504, min 256 - switch my Setcpu app between "ondemand" (when i have plenty of battery) and "conservative" (when my battery is low).

is taboonay built on original iconia stock or some other rom? or total original honeycomb (if there's a such a thing)
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Taboonay 2.0 using richardtrips 3.4 kernel (3.4 addressed h.264 playback and overclocking stability)
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nexgenasian said:
is taboonay built on original iconia stock or some other rom? or total original honeycomb (if there's a such a thing)
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I would check the taboonay thread but afaik the a501 is the only one we have a 3.2 rom to work from. So if i remember correctly it is based off of a a501

I am running HV 1.1 with HV 3.4 kernel, OC'd to 1.4Ghz. I find this combo stable and fast. My quadrant score is 4124 and I have no WiFi or YouTube issues. YouTube would not work when I was running the HV 3.3 kernel with the HV 1.1. I wonder what quadrant scores other people are getting with their ROM/kernel combos?

I re-flashed with Taboonay v.2.0/Richardtrips v.3.3 Kernel and it fixed every problem i was having. Best ROM/kernel combo ever! Super smooth, zero lag and amazing battery life!. Overclocked to 1.4ghz and getting better gaming performance then i was before as well! Awesome!
My Quadrant Standard Score at 1.4ghz is ( 3952 ) but i'm a hell-of-a-lot cooler then you! LOL

JiggaGeazY said:
I re-flashed with Taboonay v.2.0/Richardtrips v.3.3 Kernel and it fixed every problem i was having. Best ROM/kernel combo ever! Super smooth, zero lag and amazing battery life!. Overclocked to 1.4ghz and getting better gaming performance then i was before as well! Awesome!
My Quadrant Standard Score at 1.4ghz is ( 3952 ) but i'm a hell-of-a-lot cooler then you! LOL
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I'm jealous. I keep getting random disconnects with all acer firmware 3.2 roms. I hope with the acer pushing out the new update today it'll fix that issue in the custom roms.
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JiggaGeazY said:
I re-flashed with Taboonay v.2.0/Richardtrips v.3.3 Kernel and it fixed every problem i was having. Best ROM/kernel combo ever! Super smooth, zero lag and amazing battery life!. Overclocked to 1.4ghz and getting better gaming performance then i was before as well! Awesome!
My Quadrant Standard Score at 1.4ghz is ( 3952 ) but i'm a hell-of-a-lot cooler then you! LOL
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You should update your kernel to 3.4. Its even better.
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Just updated! Haven't noticed any difference in the way i use my tabby but still such a nice smooth combo!

JiggaGeazY said:
Just updated! Haven't noticed any difference in the way i use my tabby but still such a nice smooth combo!
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Youtube hd was choppy before, and if you did a lot of benchmarking it would throttle back the cpu. Both addressed in 3.4

Nexus benchmark

Hello.this is my antutu result.please share opinion and screenshots.i use cm10 stable with marmite kernel.
Whats your score?
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My first run was 2700 something, then i rebooted and got this. Running latest cm10.1 nightly, with marmite 8.4. Stock freq.
Looks like cm10 is way faster than cm10.1. OP do you have any mods?

Serris said:
My first run was 2700 something, then i rebooted and got this. Running latest cm10.1 nightly, with marmite 8.4. Stock freq.
Looks like cm10 is way faster than cm10.1. OP do you have any mods?
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Yep i used oc 1400.I just flashed jellyshot with mermite kernel with 1.32 OC and smartass and got this

First two screens are result for cm-10.1-20130408-NIGHTLY rom with cm kernel.
The 3rd and 4th screenshot were made after updating to 20130416-NIGHTLY and flashing mermite-v8.5cm kernel.

Carbon ROM, no over clock and stock
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Over clocked 1300 Carbon ROM
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Yesterday I've overclocked CPU to 1100mHz on marmite_8.5 kernel and got score around 3850 but forgot to take a SS :/
Today, I flashed Air_Kernel_Weekly_r341_JBN_BlueColor_CM, overclocked CPU to 1200mHz and then made the test again. Results in first ss. After that I was courious what are the results for normal CPU frequency. So the results for the same kernel, running at 1000mHz are in the second screenshot.
So the best results were using Air kernel with overclocked CPU. When CPU wasn't overclocked the best results were with latest marmite kernel.
so, I urge CM10.1 users to post their results and that way we'll find the best config

B33zal said:
Yesterday I've overclocked CPU to 1100mHz on marmite_8.5 kernel and got score around 3850 but forgot to take a SS :/
Today, I flashed Air_Kernel_Weekly_r341_JBN_BlueColor_CM, overclocked CPU to 1200mHz and then made the test again. Results in first ss. After that I was courious what are the results for normal CPU frequency. So the results for the same kernel, running at 1000mHz are in the second screenshot.
So the best results were using Air kernel with overclocked CPU. When CPU wasn't overclocked the best results were with latest marmite kernel.
so, I urge CM10.1 users to post their results and that way we'll find the best config
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On general (my experience) 3200-4000 is pretty normal without overclocking depending on rom/kernel/phone/battery level and temperature.. Two identical phones with the same set up will get different scores. Some mods/tweaks can increase this as well as having a good amount of free ram and no other programs running.
But these are just "fun" tests and not a true assessment of real performance..
With that said, Carbon rom is SOOOO much faster..

Ofcourse But as you've said.. It's fun to test out different combinations and it also feels good when you out do the first score for 1000 points and make your phone as good as some more expensive phone ^^

B33zal said:
Ofcourse But as you've said.. It's fun to test out different combinations and it also feels good when you out do the first score for 1000 points and make your phone as good as some more expensive phone ^^
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Agreed... And it is fun mopping the floor with slow ROMs (joking)...
This was set at only 800 mhz
Consider yourselves challenged..
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Why your 3D scores under 2k?
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Why your 3D scores under 2k?
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No matter what rom I've tried, I don't get much over 2k on 3d.. this test I was just a bit under, but still damn good for a Nexus S.. I saw you are trying to improve the graphics in your rom, I hope it works, but I really want a faster load time on apps and less lag in everything else. I have tried your rom, on this test as well, and you came up over 500 points below my score of 5300. I test all roms the same with multiple kernels (stock included as well) and different schedulers/ governors.. but as battery life goes you are towards the top..