no root for 3.2,no ad hoc for 3.2... - Acer Iconia A500

i am using android 3.2 now,but the root software for 3.1 is no useful for 3.2.
i like to use a lap-top to share internet by ad-hoc function ,but if the system is not root the ad-hoc will not be added ,right?

Life sux without root! But the devs here are cleaver im sure they will find a solution pronto!

In the mean time you can look for software that turns your laptop into a AP. Like this one:
http://www.connectify.me/
I haven't tried it but from the description it looks promising (and it's free... well the basic version at least). One thing though - it's for win7 but I'm sure you can find something similar for your OS (whatever it is).
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tkolev said:
In the mean time you can look for software that turns your laptop into a AP. Like this one:
http://www.connectify.me/
I haven't tried it but from the description it looks promising (and it's free... well the basic version at least). One thing though - it's for win7 but I'm sure you can find something similar for your OS (whatever it is).
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Going to the download page on this site pushes the file to YOU WITHOUT ASKING.
BAD BAD BAD.YOU CAN DO THIS FOR FREE on any win 7 Prem or above PC.XP and vista as well. Called internet connection sharing

erica_renee said:
Going to the download page on this site pushes the file to YOU WITHOUT ASKING.
BAD BAD BAD.YOU CAN DO THIS FOR FREE on any win 7 Prem or above PC.XP and vista as well. Called internet connection sharing
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It's not about the sharing of the internet connection but the way the iconia connects to your laptop. Simply put in the wifi standard there are two modes - infrastructure and ad-hoc. In the first all clients connect to the AP and transmit data to it only. The other uses direct links between the clients that need to transmit data between them. In the current scenario they look the same (data is transmitted between the iconia and the laptop) but unfortunately iconia can't connect to ad-hoc networks without modification that requires root (which we don't have) and when you create a wlan in windows it's ad-hoc.
I honestly did not know about the downloading of the software - just googled "windows access point software" and came to an article about this one. EDIT: I've just followed the download link and it starts downloading the installer. Not that much of a surprise when you click something called "download". I prefer to get the job done rather than answering to "are you sure you want to download the file?", "are you absolutely positive to that?", "you don't seem too exited about it, maybe you should download it tomorrow?", "do you know what you are doing?", "does your wife know that you want to download it?", "in the current political situation, do you think that it is wise to download this file?" and so on...
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freedom1776 said:
i am using android 3.2 now,but the root software for 3.1 is no useful for 3.2.
i like to use a lap-top to share internet by ad-hoc function ,but if the system is not root the ad-hoc will not be added ,right?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1213014
Maybe the A100 3.2 root technique works?

Connectify is stable and works by turning your laptop into an actual WAP...
I have been using it for over a year at many hotels that charge for one WIFI and then the laptop puts it back out as its own separate WIFI to all of my other devices... (an HP iPAQ, an iPOD Touch 3, another laptop, the Acer A500 and the Dell Streak 7)
I even used it as a stand alone Hot Spot to do a survey for a major company warehouse situation...
And now they have a version for XP and Vista (I have not tried these yet)
Ted...

Im attempting the A100 Technique right now (as soon as I get JDK / ANDROID SDK) installed. I will update this thread to say if it worked. I thought I read somewhere it didn't but I'm bored. LOL

synapses11 said:
Im attempting the A100 Technique right now (as soon as I get JDK / ANDROID SDK) installed. I will update this thread to say if it worked. I thought I read somewhere it didn't but I'm bored. LOL
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IIRC we have a newer bootloader in our version of 3.2 than the A100 has. SPCIIW!

Yeah that was a waste of time there's even a reply in the a100 forum saying their ADB root technique doesn't work. I can't chmod the su file to make it executable or even dump in the /system/xbin folder. Was good practice though, hadn't really used adb before. Really pisses me off that Acer did this. It would be like Microsoft not letting you be an admin to your own windows installation. I'm sure the very capable devs out there will crack it (hopefully) lol.

synapses11 said:
Yeah that was a waste of time there's even a reply in the a100 forum...
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There's an A100 forum here now?

I don't think so it was posted under the general section but here is the thread I was readiing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1213014

Related

Poll from Archos - Join :)

Hi guys
just saw this and i think all of us should vote in this poll
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/archo...t-tablets-bugs-enhancements-feature-requests/
lets make our device better
ok...Done
Done. There are some good questions on the survey.
In the comments I requested support for HTTP Proxy, in case anyone is trying to think of things to wish for
poll is not "from" archos
please change the title
Thanks for alerting us to this survey. I hope that Archos really takes note of what we say. Here's what I posted for Archos to consider:
Archos, you guys have done some very good things. The battery life on my A70 is phenomenal for example. But more important than getting everything right, is PRIORITIZING what your customers need.
1. There is no 3G on any of the Gen8, so Bluetooth tethering is absolutely CRITICAL. I have had my A70 for over a month and I still cannot successfully tether it to my Android 2.2 phone (which is absolutely capable of tethering). That is a shame. An Android tablet should be able to tether to an Android phone like brother and sister. If Bluetooth is too difficult to get done now, at least add support for Ad-hoc WiFi. I need SOME way to tether my tablet to my phone. Please.
2. After tethering, your next priority (as in working on it right now) has to be getting Honeycomb pushed to the Gen 8. I know it will be a few months maybe, but please don't make us wait 8-10 months after other devices have it like some manufacturers do.
After you do those things, then you can focus on the rest of the stuff:
3. Increase RAM, yes even if you have to change your file system or whatever.
4. Allow charging via USB.
5. People have been begging for this since we got our hands on Gen8. Please, please, please create a system option to hide the on-screen buttons (back, menu, home, search) in certain situations. It throws off alignment on the homescreen and isn't very useful in the video player either.
OK, Done +1
Done.
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Thx, done.
I requested a standard 'enable root' setting, essential for backups. Without it, you have to use an uncertified tool like Archangel or install the SDE and an uncertified OS image. Not having a standard root option in the development settings is actually more of a security risk than having it.
macemoneta said:
I requested a standard 'enable root' setting, essential for backups. Without it, you have to use an uncertified tool like Archangel or install the SDE and an uncertified OS image. Not having a standard root option in the development settings is actually more of a security risk than having it.
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LOL I asked for the same thing.
Techngro said:
Here's what I posted for Archos to consider:
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Just a word of advice. When writing to a company, generally telling them what to do and how to do it doesn't get you very far. Additionally, when telling a company "what the people want" you need to be able to back it up with fact. Otherwise they will likely view it as your opinion and thus you are speaking for one which lessons and "power" your message could send.
I mean your points are good, don't get me wrong. I just think a different style of writing would have gotten more than a circular file response...
Techngro said:
Thanks for alerting us to this survey. I hope that Archos really takes note of what we say. Here's what I posted for Archos to consider:
Archos, you guys have done some very good things. The battery life on my A70 is phenomenal for example. But more important than getting everything right, is PRIORITIZING what your customers need.
1. There is no 3G on any of the Gen8, so Bluetooth tethering is absolutely CRITICAL. I have had my A70 for over a month and I still cannot successfully tether it to my Android 2.2 phone (which is absolutely capable of tethering). That is a shame. An Android tablet should be able to tether to an Android phone like brother and sister. If Bluetooth is too difficult to get done now, at least add support for Ad-hoc WiFi. I need SOME way to tether my tablet to my phone. Please.
2. After tethering, your next priority (as in working on it right now) has to be getting Honeycomb pushed to the Gen 8. I know it will be a few months maybe, but please don't make us wait 8-10 months after other devices have it like some manufacturers do.
After you do those things, then you can focus on the rest of the stuff:
3. Increase RAM, yes even if you have to change your file system or whatever.
4. Allow charging via USB.
5. People have been begging for this since we got our hands on Gen8. Please, please, please create a system option to hide the on-screen buttons (back, menu, home, search) in certain situations. It throws off alignment on the homescreen and isn't very useful in the video player either.
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The amount of ram can't be changed via software.
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hurrpancakes said:
The amount of ram can't be changed via software.
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I think he means by using a more efficient file system that doesn't eat up so much of the 256...but, that's a good point...if someone is translating his message to French, that could easily be lost/dismissed.
done.
i hope they can enable the wireless connection via ad-hoc in the next update.
My hope is for a honeycomb release.
thanks - done
hurrpancakes said:
The amount of ram can't be changed via software.
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No, but they can either enable a swap file by default or offer it as an option, as is being done with Uruk.
JasonOT said:
No, but they can either enable a swap file by default or offer at is an option, as is being done with Uruk.
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In newest firmware versions there is already a swap partition enabled (32-64 MB)
JasonOT said:
No, but they can either enable a swap file by default or offer at is an option, as is being done with Uruk.
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Swap is nearly useless on android.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11099364#post11099364
This is only one example there are others.

Acer Iconia Tab A500

First of all, I would like to request a section on this tablet, funny how the Transformer even got one when is not released yet.
Second of all, I'm quite a noob on the subject matter. But to all the A500 owners out there, any idea how to get the tethering to work?
I have the Atrix 4G rooted, and for some reason my A500 can't pick up the signal. Any ideas? (I read something about the "infrastrusture" and "ad-hoc" things, but not sure about it)
Thanks
i think so!!!please have a section on this tablet
I'm having the same problem tethering my A500 to my T-Mob G1.
You're correct in saying that it's down to the difference between Ad-Hoc and Infrastructure Wireless Networking. Some phones tether using Ad-Hoc, some use Infrastructure. The Iconia A500 only supports Infrastructure. Hopefully it won't be too long before Paul O'Brien et al can root it and we can get a custom kernel with support for Ad-Hoc networks.
Also, +1 for Acer Iconia A500 Forum please!
colbur87 is working on it.. maybe you guys can follow the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046277
If you have root then you should be able to replace the wpa_supplicant file with the one from this thread like we did on the Xoom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033314
You can use Root explorer rather than ADB if you want.
First you want to turn off your wifi. I have used the ADB method a couple of times but I find it easier to use Root explorer. Save the file to your memory, Copy it using root explorer, navigate to the system/bin folder and click mount R/W then paste the file into the folder replacing the original (make sure to make a backup!) then long hold on the file and view permissions, check all the boxes in the first two columns and the first 2 in the last column. (chmod 775) You can then restart your wifi and enjoy ad-hoc networks (no reboot needed.)
I've done this a couple of times on my Xoom and it works great
Another vote for Iconia A500 forum !!
Tethering my inspire to my iconia here with no problems. I tested using a non-encrypted adhoc network.
Forum section
another vote..plus im having problems with setting up exchange activesync on my a500..TouchDown works fine though..any one having the same sorta problem?
Thanks, I've been looking into this method too.
But we are currently still waiting for the Acer Tab to be rooted. Hopefully will be soon.
mr_wrong_0 said:
If you have root then you should be able to replace the wpa_supplicant file with the one from this thread like we did on the Xoom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033314
You can use Root explorer rather than ADB if you want.
First you want to turn off your wifi. I have used the ADB method a couple of times but I find it easier to use Root explorer. Save the file to your memory, Copy it using root explorer, navigate to the system/bin folder and click mount R/W then paste the file into the folder replacing the original (make sure to make a backup!) then long hold on the file and view permissions, check all the boxes in the first two columns and the first 2 in the last column. (chmod 775) You can then restart your wifi and enjoy ad-hoc networks (no reboot needed.)
I've done this a couple of times on my Xoom and it works great
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colbur87 said:
Tethering my inspire to my iconia here with no problems. I tested using a non-encrypted adhoc network.
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You didn't mention how you got your A500 to see ad-hoc. Must tell!
this forum just started on the acer..
http://www.iconiatabforums.com/iconiatabforums/index.php?topic=32.msg50;topicseen#new
disruptorx said:
another vote..plus im having problems with setting up exchange activesync on my a500..TouchDown works fine though..any one having the same sorta problem?
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I have the same problem. Does not let me setup an exchange account only pop3 and Imap. I thought that's standard with all Android version since 2.0 or so? Any ideas?
Thanks
acebogomir said:
I have the same problem. Does not let me setup an exchange account only pop3 and Imap. I thought that's standard with all Android version since 2.0 or so? Any ideas?
Thanks
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Same here on that. Touchdown works fine, but no native Exchange support...
Inspire's Wifi Hotspot is Infrastructure mode, and works for me.
AND GIVE US A FORUM!!!!!!
Please...
Just got mine yesterday. Obvioulsy their honeycomb release still needs polishing. Also upset there is no exchange support out of the box. +1 for Iconia forum!
Just got mine a little while ago!
Yes, a forum for us, please.
Got mine yesterday in anticipation the Asus launch would leave many (including myself) with out one. From the research I have done, Exchange is not supported natively in Honeycomb at all, coming in a future update. You can, however, use K-9 Mail which is working flawlessly for me and free in the market.
+ 1.5 (I am a big guy) for the Acer Iconia dedicated forum.
Got my A500 yesterday and already like it infinitely better than the xoom I returned shortly after launch!
++A500 dedicated formum... pretty pretty please!
Can't wait until we can crack this sucker open!
Yes please, give us a forum. I think this tablet has a lot going for it.
sent from my inspire no 4g!
+1 for an Acer Iconia A500 forum
Forum please!!!

Mac OS X Lion - Galaxy Tab Problems

Ok, it seems that Apple has changed something in 10.7 Lion's AFP/Samba, because file managers like Estrongs and File Expert can no longer connect to my Mac via LAN or connect to them via network.
Basically i can't access my shared folders on my Mac from my Tab like i've always done (before 10.7). Any ideas anyone?
*Mods, if this is in the wrong area, be gentle. *
***very very gentle***
If you facing problem matter and seek for help i think its belong to Q & A section.
If you seek for opinion, then you are on the right section.
Anyway, decision is by mod, not by me and im sorry if i am wrong.
Anyway, i dislike mac by apple from beginning. Their device is not a friendly device from beginning. Even bluetooth communication enable only between Apple devices.
Really heat them!!
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Although this is probably a [Q] thread, Im gonna leave it here in general because Im sure there will be more people having issues with apples new offering so I'll amend your thread title and leave it here...
Not perfect but fixed
Had the same issue. In Lion they added something to the AFP protocol which is called "Replay Cache". This is not supported by netatalk 2.1 (which I am assuming you are using).... In the beta version 2.2 (beta 4) of netatalk the support seems to be there but it is a bit slow. All in all if you upgrade it will work, hopefully future brings better performance.
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Had the same issue. In Lion they added something to the AFP protocol which is called "Replay Cache". This is not supported by netatalk 2.1 (which I am assuming you are using).... In the beta version 2.2 (beta 4) of netatalk the support seems to be there but it is a bit slow. All in all if you upgrade it will work, hopefully future brings better performance.
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So how does one upgrade netatalk? I'm using Estrongs File Manager on my Tab.

[Q] usb host mode with iconia a500 and android 3.2: no devices

(this is a sw development question but I'm a noob and not allowed to post in the development forum)
I'm trying to communicate with a usb device, using an acer iconia a500 upgraded to android 3.2 (kernel 2.6.36.3+, not rooted, I just used the regular update feature). In a nutshell, what happens is that after I get the UsbManager, getDeviceList returns an empty map. The same happens with the adbtest sample from google:
mManager = (UsbManager)getSystemService(Context.USB_SERVICE);
// check for existing devices
for (UsbDevice device : mManager.getDeviceList().values()) {
// I get nothing here, the values() list is empty
I've tried several devices (various usb solid state disks, an hard drive, a mouse, a garmin watch, etc). nothing. Some devices (disks, mouse) are indeed recognized by the OS (they work: I see the filesystem, the mouse works fine, etc), but they don't get reflected at the API level.
Googling around, some people say that mouse and keyboard don't get enumerated but disks do, but they're using 3.1 while I'm using 3.2. I don't get the disk either, or anything else I've plugged in.
The code above should enumerate all devices. Anyway, I also tried the intent + xml file approach as documented in the google samples. Still nothing.
The manifest seems ok, and as I said, the adbtest sample straight from the sdk shows the same problem.
Given the paucity of the API, I don't really know what to try next. Has anybody succesfully used host mode on an iconia a500 with android 3.2? I mean "used" at the API level. As I said, "standard" devices gets recognized at the OS level and works, but aren't visible through the API.
In the end I need to communicate with a non-standard device in host mode, so I really need to get it through the API. Also, my (potential) users are just regular users, they won't root their device, install custom roms, etc. I need to make it working with a "standard" 3.1 / 3.2 tablet. I got the iconia after reading it works in host mode, but can't make it work :-(
The only thing that comes to mind is that you missed declaring that you would use usb features in the manifest. Happens to me all the time when using internet in my apps . Check this (you probably already have): http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/usb/host.html#usage
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Unfortunately no, that's not the case (I triple-checked). I thought I may have made some mistake in the manifest etc, so as I said I've also tried the adbtest sample from google - same problem.
I've also found a free app in the marketplace ("usb device info") which is supposed to show connected devices - I get no devices. I see you have an A500, which android version are you running?
vic ripa said:
Unfortunately no, that's not the case (I triple-checked). I thought I may have made some mistake in the manifest etc, so as I said I've also tried the adbtest sample from google - same problem.
I've also found a free app in the marketplace ("usb device info") which is supposed to show connected devices - I get no devices. I see you have an A500, which android version are you running?
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3.2 pre-rooted near-stock. Will try later with the app you mentioned and post the results (my daughter is watching a movie from my external hdd hooked to the BD player, so can't try it right now)
EDIT: my 500 GB HDD shows up in usb device info app
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: (( so it works on a rooted device. Or perhaps there is just something wrong with mine :-((. Maybe someone else with a non-rooted 3.2 will help me sort this out.
I don't want to abuse your kindness, but which kernel version do you have? Same as mine (2.6.36.3+)?
Thanks
Vic
vic ripa said:
: (( so it works on a rooted device. Or perhaps there is just something wrong with mine :-((. Maybe someone else with a non-rooted 3.2 will help me sort this out.
I don't want to abuse your kindness, but which kernel version do you have? Same as mine (2.6.36.3+)?
Thanks
Vic
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It shouldn't have anything to do with root since the app hasn't requested root access. I have the exact same kernel version. The fact that the disks connect to your tab and you can see the file system, but not the devices themselves is really weird...
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yes, and sort of sad : (((((((((((
vic ripa said:
yes, and sort of sad : (((((((((((
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Maybe if someone with stock unrooted 3.2 has the same problem, it would make sense for you to root and flash the near-stock prerooted ROM... or you may always try factory resetting your tablet if you don't have anything essential on it. Also you may try with a usb memory stick just to eliminate the possibility of the port not supplying the needed amperage to power the hdds (though you shouldn't see them in the file explorer if that was the case...)
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I did try the memory stick - just like the HD and mouse, it is recognized by the OS, I can use the file system, yet get no devices from the API.
Unless someone else comes up with a good idea, I'll go with the factory reset. Unfortunately, rooting is not really an option, I need to develop something that works for the average guy...
Thanks a bunch!
packard bell liberty-iconia tab a500 ROOTING
prejudice would like to know if there is a way to make the root to my tablet having upgraded to 3.2 .... I used when I was gingerbreack 3.1 1.2 no longer works, but obviously I need to change the way ..... can you help?
lollo21 said:
prejudice would like to know if there is a way to make the root to my tablet having upgraded to 3.2 .... I used when I was gingerbreack 3.1 1.2 no longer works, but obviously I need to change the way ..... can you help?
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Right here. It's no longer as easy as it was on 3.1, but it can still be done.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
lollo21 said:
prejudice would like to know if there is a way to make the root to my tablet having upgraded to 3.2 .... I used when I was gingerbreack 3.1 1.2 no longer works, but obviously I need to change the way ..... can you help?
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Can you please install the above mentioned app and try to see if a usb device shows up in the list? I see that you have a non rooted 3.2 just like the OP.
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Help with Mac OS X

I plan on hacking my new Note 4. Will I be able to do all the same things windows users will be able to? What sort of restrictions will I have, if any?
Anyone?
What do you mean by be able to do what Windows users can? Any specific things?
I haven't installed Kies on my Mac so no idea how well that works but I used Android File Transfer to move some stuff over yesterday with no issues. There is also Airdroid which has always worked well for me.
I am currently using Note 4 octa version with mac book air OSX 10.9.5 using (Samsung's) kies software but the software is so buggy you are better off downloading stuff to ur usb and than using OTA and note 4's flie manager to transfer, If the software was bug free I guess u cud do everything like on windows
Wow I can't believe I didn't make the OP clear. I updated the OP to show that I'm talking about hacking. I'm worried that I might have access to less tools than windows users, or that I might be completely unable to do some things.
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Wow I can't believe I didn't make the OP clear. I updated the OP to show that I'm talking about hacking. I'm worried that I might have access to less tools than windows users, or that I might be completely unable to do some things.
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I installed Windows 7 on my MacBook via parallels and rooted just fine using that method.
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