As the title says, it is to discuss whether can we add divx playback support through hardware decoding on devices without native support.
The video playback by hardware decoding will be much better than the video playback of the same file by software decoding. Check it on RockPlayer. Our ZTE BLADE can handle pretty decent MP4 files (within WVGA resolution) whereas it cannot handle decent AVI/divx files. These files other than those supported by system player are played with software decoding which is not that good as the same specs files played with hardware decoding. That's where this question arises. Is is possible to support many file types and codecs (AVI, flv, mkv) for system player.
And I think some devices are having same hardware configuration but differences in divx playback support by system player. I think ZTE blade and LG optimus p500 have all the hardware identical except for the screen resolution. And LG optimus has native divx playback support whereas zte blade doesn't. (Correct me if I'm wrong). So i believe it is a software related thing.
And for 1GHz devices without divx support it might not make a big difference because they have a good processor which can play decent files even with software decoding. But for devices like ZTE blade, it matters because it cannot play most of the decent file types available in the internet.
What do you people say ??? Is it possible.
Give MX Video a Try
I download TV shows and movies in various formats all the time (just about all the popular formats).
The free MX Video Player plays them all on the ZTE Blade wonderfully. Even lets me stretch, crop, and full screen any video. And it remembers where I left off which is great because I can resume playback anytime right where I left off.
Just thought to mention as it solved all my video issues.
I also use MX video player on my blade, handles divx avi files with no problems.
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I have both TCPMP and divxmobile, but the performance is ghastly. For those of you who don't know, WMP has access to qualcomm hardware acceleration, allowing it to play mp4s incredibly well at a perfect framerate. Whereas my expansive xvid collection (something I transcoded to because I figured it would be standard and heavily supported ) from my HTPC play at around 5fps, if that.
I have no desire to transcode everything just to watch it on my TP2, so I get little use out it as a media player. So I'm wondering, have any hackers ever tried to add any codec support to the player? Being able to play my xvids with hardware acceleration, as not even CorePlayer can do, would be amazing.
I'd be willing to donate $10 after the fact if such a hack did in fact take advantage of hardware acceleration and played standard xvids properly.
I just noticed for the first time that HTC Video supports AVI files. I have been using RockPlayer in Software mode with success, but it kills battery like crazy.
RockPlayer is smoother, but I wonder how HTC's battery use compares.
I will of course find out for myself, but I wonder what other people have experienced
SRS enhancement is a plus
how about vplayer
That will also be software based, so probably the same. The native player should be hardware mode, but is pretty choppy with standard "scene" video files. I'll do a test run this week to see how the battery usage compares
well the native player is hardware accelerated or at least it is for .mp4 with x254 video i havnt tried avi but i would assume that it would also be hardware accelerated or at least the renderer would be. alternative players are usless cause they dont support hardware on the adreno 205 yet
Hardware accelerated yes, but software players are still smoother!
just used "power tutor" to compare power used during one Simpson episode using two players.
According to "power tutor" the Internal video player used about half the power that RockPlayer did (with HW acc enabled)
Yes, I know this is not the perfect comparison.
The total power used should be measured, in case one offloads much more to the hardware than the other one.
An perfect comparison should be:
-boot
-radio off
-start measuring total power consumption
-play video for xx minutes
-stop measuring power consumption.
Guys, how do you manage to play xvid with built in video player?
When I put a video on my SD card, it appears in stock player but with no screenshot, only some weird small icon. Selecting the video does nothing at all.
Eddie1506 said:
Guys, how do you manage to play xvid with built in video player?.
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Who plays Xvid ? - the simpsons episodes are H264 with MPEG4 AAC audio -both preview & playback work fine.
what we need - is players like VLC, core-player or tcpmp for Android. - VLC - being open-source & up-to-date - would be absolutely best.
I think Vplayer.beta is the best so far however it doesn't allow me to change audio channels but it was a lot smoother than rock player when playing a dual audio track; also seems to eat battery life. otherwise rock player is great.
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Who plays Xvid ? - the simpsons episodes are H264 with MPEG4 AAC audio -both preview & playback work fine.
what we need - is players like VLC, core-player or tcpmp for Android. - VLC - being open-source & up-to-date - would be absolutely best.
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Sorry, my bad
So I just got the new Epic from Sprint, and I just put on some videos. All of them work, EXCEPT FOR ONE.
I had recently created a video using Adobe Premiere in CS5. It output to MP4 with AVC/AAC (LC) codecs. It plays fine on my computer, my Samsung TV, and even my Samsung Blu-ray player (they all have USB ports for digital media), but no luck with the phone. The phone says displays "unsupported file type," and promptly returns to the gallery.
I have looked at the posted file and codec support, and so I converted copies of the original file to:
MP4: H.264, AAC
MKV: H.264, AAC
DIVX: AVI, MP3
But they all yield the same disappointing result: "unsupported file type." What else could I possibly try to make this play?
P.S. The supported file and codec list that I found is located here (apparently, I don't yet have enough posts for the site to let me link to the rest of the internet):
*ars.samsung.com/customer/usa/jsp/faqs/faqs_view_us.jsp?SITE_ID=22&PG_ID=0&AT_ID=316039&PROD_SUB_ID=0&PROD_ID=559&EMAIL_ID=*
Go to the market and download RockPlayer
Technically, the player was successful in opening the video, since it has a choice of "software decoding" and "hardware decoding" mode. "Software decoding" mode made the video lag the audio big time (>1 sec into playback before lag started). Selecting "Hardware decoding" mode for the file returns the error "This file cannot be played with System Player." After some digging on the company's website, it says that the "software decoding" mode can play just about anything, and while the System Player integrated into Android itself can only play a limited list of files, the System Player can use hardware acceleration.
So the question of the day becomes, is there a media player app that doesn't rely on the System Player for hardware acceleration?
Rockplayer is it...
What is the resolution of your video? 1080p? 720p? (1080p wont work from what I hear..even though Hummingbird does support it :/)
Also, is your audio 5.1? try removing the audio from your file and see if the video works.
Yeah, the video was coded into 1080p. The software decoding mode will play it, but it lags a lot. If Hummingbird CAN handle the hardware decode, then my issue is with the Android System Player's ability to use the hardware, right? If so, is it that Android doesn't like 1080p period, or is it a matter of using a separate program that CAN use the hardware effectively?
The audio plays without a hitch. It's coded for just simple stereo.
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Yeah, the video was coded into 1080p. The software decoding mode will play it, but it lags a lot. If Hummingbird CAN handle the hardware decode, then my issue is with the Android System Player's ability to use the hardware, right? If so, is it that Android doesn't like 1080p period, or is it a matter of using a separate program that CAN use the hardware effectively?
The audio plays without a hitch. It's coded for just simple stereo.
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Yes the 1080p is your issue..software decode is always a lot slower..while the Hummingbird does support 1080p, either Samsung did not include the drivers to make it happen or it is an Android limitation I am not sure...but its 100% in the Hummingbird specification..so its not impossible... just someone has to figure out how lol
For now your best bet is to re-encode it to 720p and you will be fine.
Hi
any news about mkv (h.264) videos whith this tablet?
Hardware is the problem? or android is the problem?
regards
AFAIK, the Vega can't play MKV as this is a limitation of Android (as opposed to the tablet). perhaps in 2.3 / 3.0 we'll see MKV support introduced.
thanks
I can to play mkv with h.264 files, but it's too slow, 4-6 fps only with any players (vital player, meridian, etc)...
saludos
Did you try rockplayer? Have good experiences with it, but haven't tried mkv yet...
You can always use a program like Handbrake to convert it to mp4/h264, which works fine for me.
Remember that MKV is just a container if the base AOSP build of Android suddenly gained the ability to parse Matroska containers it would not magically give you the ability to play High-profile 1080p H.264 video streams, or DTS/AC3 audio that may be contained in the MKV.
Rockplayer and all the ffmpeg-alikes are able to parse the containers but _none_ of them will be able to use the native hardware acceleration and as such will be useless for HD content.
SilentMobius said:
Rockplayer and all the ffmpeg-alikes are able to parse the containers but _none_ of them will be able to use the native hardware acceleration and as such will be useless for HD content.
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This is the problem
I use vital player, the best for mobii/vega, because I can view all videos with AC3 without problem (divx or wmv with AC3). MKV with vital player are slow too...
The best codec for mobii/vega 720p? mp4/h264? wmvhd? I have a lot of mkv/h.264/mkv...
regards
Funny thing is my first tablet the ZT-180 was able to play mkv 720p high profile with DTS beautifully! It stuttered a bit on 1080p, watchable though. This is on a low budget machine, on the vega it should fly! This was in real player for android by the way. Explain that
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Funny thing is my first tablet the ZT-180 was able to play mkv 720p high profile with DTS beautifully! It stuttered a bit on 1080p, watchable though. This is on a low budget machine, on the vega it should fly! This was in real player for android by the way. Explain that
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this is the big question WHY??!!!
demonknight9 said:
Funny thing is my first tablet the ZT-180 was able to play mkv 720p high profile with DTS beautifully! It stuttered a bit on 1080p, watchable though. This is on a low budget machine, on the vega it should fly! This was in real player for android by the way. Explain that
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I second this. MKV was perfect on the ZT-180's 2.1 rom. Proof that this is not a limitation of android.
hi,
i have installed rockplayer and mVideoPlayer. it seems that they install some codecs because now i can play 720p and partly 1080p MKV videos on my mobii tegra (vega rom + modaco) via the video player that comes with the rom.
greez
ndroid2k11 said:
hi,
i have installed rockplayer and mVideoPlayer. it seems that they install some codecs because now i can play 720p and partly 1080p MKV videos on my mobii tegra (vega rom + modaco) via the video player that comes with the rom.
greez
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really? witch rom are you using? addons? I can play 720p MKV, bur slowly, at 5-10fps
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I can play the mkv files but just no sound.. running vega rom with modaco.
dopeh said:
I can play the mkv files but just no sound.. running vega rom with modaco.
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you can use vitalplayer, the best for me.
demonknight9 said:
Funny thing is my first tablet the ZT-180 was able to play mkv 720p high profile with DTS beautifully! It stuttered a bit on 1080p, watchable though. This is on a low budget machine, on the vega it should fly! This was in real player for android by the way. Explain that
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Because that tablet its _so_ dodgy that the OEM built in MKV/DTV/AC3 decoding into android (like Samsung/etc) and released it without paying for the licences (for DTS and AC3).
If dolby et al notices then the retailers will get a lawsuit.
Though it does mean that there is Android source floating around China that includes MKV parsing. Latest Gingerbread update add WebM so lest see if that comes with a full matroska parser.
pildo said:
really? witch rom are you using? addons? I can play 720p MKV, bur slowly, at 5-10fps
regards
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Advent Vega 1.09 ROM + MoDaCo r8
when i play the movies with rockplayer or mVideoPlayer it's slow, too. But with the original player it works fine. Don't know why
Hi all
Apologies for the thread revival. There's no need to use any third party apps to play MKV files, you can play MKVs using the built in media player. I use Astro file manager and do the following: navigate to file, long-press on the file itself, select "Open As", select "Video", then choose the default media player. It might be easier to have the app recognise it as standard, but this method works. I've tried quite a few 1080p x264 vids and the only thing the Vega struggles with is the audio codecs - it supports AAC, but AFAIK it doesn't support AC3.
EDIT: I should probably mention that I use the default 1.09 ROM, modded with MCR R8.
The reason that third party apps probably get a low FPS is that they do not use the Tegra2 hardware accelerated decoding - the built in player does however.
The core Android system actually supports the MKV container format - it's listed on the spec page; I guess implementation is obviously different for each device. As someone pointed out though, the important thing is the codec in use for each video/audio stream; MKV is just a container format.
Is there a program which can link file extensions with app s?
I believe that mVideoPlayer literally just makes the mkv format available/viewable/whateverable in the stock player, so if you install it, you should just be able to play mkvs in the stock player (mVideoPlayer does not have any codecs, so it will only be able to play the codecs that your device can already play)
most devices can play H264 mkv, hell my phone can even play them with one player or another, the issue here is decoding, the vega simply cannot decode h264 high profile video hence the slow framerates as the player has to switch to software.
Suggesting this is possible by switching to the stock player is just nonesense, those that claim to have good frame rates are NOT playing h264 high profile, the hardware cant do it, period, end of thread.
Note: most "ripped" MKV films / tv files (1 gig usually for TV rips 6 gig + for films) that can be downloaded in 720p and 1080p will be encoded in high profile, you simply wont ever be able to play these with decent frame rates without re-ecoding into a codec tegra can handle like H264 main profile - unless the open source VLC team manage to create their own CPU optimisations when VLC finally come out, even then it wont be buttery smooth.
give it up people, you are going to have to re-encode or not bother using it as media tablet.
Hello everyone,
I can't find any way to have a video decoded using H/W Decoding with any player, video, nor custom roms.
With official Roms, I used WMP to transcode and send videos to my MB526 via MTP mode, which resulted in wmv files. This way, MX Player was able to play videos using hardware decoding (how ever, as far as I remember, the quality was sloppy).
But of course, that solution does not work anymore with custom roms, as MTP, wma and wmv are gone.
Right now I send .avi or .mp4 files using ftp; but I can't figure out a way to make them play using hardware decoding. All I got are insults like "can't play using H/W Decoder" (S/W works just fine, as long as I simplify the work for the chip : lower quality and mpeg2; but even then I think that HW decoding would spare the battery)
I tried :
- Different ROMs : Quark's CM10 roms, and White Rabbit (CM7) roms (among others)
- Different Codecs : MP4 (h264), Mpeg2, aac audio, mp3 audio, etc.
- Different Resolutions and Qualities : 854x480, 320x240, 25fps, 15fps, etc.
- Different Transcoders : vlc, ffmpeg, ...
- Different Players : MX Player (with or without armv7 codec), VLC, stock
Even in software mode, I have to decrease quality of the video to (150Mb for 20 minutes in mpeg2) to be able to run videos smoothly.
I searched everywhere in the forum but couldn't find any answer (I saw people complaining they can't play 720p with HW decoding, but I can't even play anything with HW decoding).
Do anyone knows what I did wrong ? Or how I could get a workaround ?
Regards