[Q] need some clarification on unlocked bootloader. Once unlocked, always unlocked? - Atrix 4G General

I unlocked my bootloader at one time. I then and to revert to stock GB. Now when I boot up i no longer have the "unlocked" show up on the screen. I somehow, lost my recovery so I am trying to load the CWM variant and I'm running into issues.
I just want to clarify that since I unlocked it at one point, it is and will always be unlocked, correct? I thought I had read that you can not revert to a locked state.
Thanks,
clipse

It is unlocked, but you will need to flash an unlocked ROM or reunlock it to avoid the problems you are having. I had the same thing happen to me before. Even though it is unlocked, the phone doesn't recognize it because of the ROM.
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Thank you. I am trying to reunlock it but I keep getting "oem unlock is not implemented". Can't flash an unlocked rom because I don't have recovery and thats the only way I have done it in the past.
clipse

Did you flash the stock 4.5.91 sbf or what?
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Always unlocked. I have no idea on your issue though. Even though it doesnt say unlocked your fuse is still blown.
I voided my warranty.

thebeardedchild said:
Did you flash the stock 4.5.91 sbf or what?
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Yes I did.
I ended up finding the unlocker sbf files from the pudding thread. Flashed that and its all good. I am rocking alien for now.

clipse94 said:
Yes I did.
I ended up finding the unlocker sbf files from the pudding thread. Flashed that and its all good. I am rocking alien for now.
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So you missed the warnings all over the place that say to NEVER flash SBFs once you've unlocked? Nice.

phobos512 said:
So you missed the warnings all over the place that say to NEVER flash SBFs once you've unlocked? Nice.
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Lmao. Well, hopefully he flashed pudding like he implied and hes good.
I voided my warranty.

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So you missed the warnings all over the place that say to NEVER flash SBFs once you've unlocked? Nice.
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Always nice to see an ass.
I seen the warnings that say don't revert to froyo after unlocking. No warning about going back to stock GB. Read up more before you post.

clipse94 said:
Always nice to see an ass.
I seen the warnings that say don't revert to froyo after unlocking. No warning about going back to stock GB. Read up more before you post.
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I wasn't referring to any thread in particular but there are several threads that suggest the use of SBFs should be stopped as they are often unpredictable.
You wouldn't know anything about that though because you didn't need to come in the forum to ask for help after you SBF'd your phone and it went bad, hm? Thought not.
Next time read the warnings. The disappearance of "UNLOCKED" is well documented.
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clipse94 said:
Always nice to see an ass.
I seen the warnings that say don't revert to froyo after unlocking. No warning about going back to stock GB. Read up more before you post.
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He wasnt the nicest about it, but dont use sbf anymore. You are risking HARD bricking your phone. Its always best to fastboot any kind of flash, especially radios, but you should be fine using a recovery to flash any compatible rom. Dont come asking what how do i unbrick my phone if you keep using sbf files.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

Ok. So I should explain, I had to go the sbf route last time because I was having severe issues with the phone app fcing. I tried every possible other option and looked into any other way. Going the stock gb sbf was my last resort. That was several weeks ago. I just now decided to try another rom which is where I was having issues. So, unless you know the whole story........... I think proper etiquette is if you don't have anything constructive to say the stfu.
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Welcome to XDA dude, everything you say can and will be used against you. Doesn't matter what you do or how you word responses, someone will use it as an opportunity to flame you so they can feel superior. Sux that people have to act this way.
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Here's the deal-E-O. Once you unlock and yer OTA updated to gingerbread, the only safe *and I say that with respect to the fact that it could still lead to something bad * .sbf to flash is the stock Gingerbread 2.3.4 . It may not be safe for EVERYONE, maybe it's a case by case basis, but I know for me I can flash that and it reverts me to stock with no unlock appearing at startup anymore. Also, the 1.97 radio .sbf seems fine to flash , atleast on my phone. Again, I'm not saying you SHOULD. Just adding information. Good luck all.

Can we please stop the flame wars?
This is part of the reason why some devs are leaving.
Remember XDA is about community and helping others...
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So if i was running blue cronic and having FC issues and wanted to revert back to stock as possible and used this "1FF-olympus-user-2.3.4-4.5.91-110625-release-keys-signed-ATT-US-GAS_NA_OLPSGBATTSPE_P011.sbf" through RSD lite. Have I screwed myself up? My phone is working just fine right now it just no longer says unlocked at boot up and I obviously dont have root access any longer.
I was about to flash this "ATT-2.3.4_Pudding_preroot.sbf" through RSD lite but I came across this thread doing a "search" lol
This is what I originally used to unlock/root my phone. Should I just go back to it and let it do the magic again?
Automatic bootloader UNLOCK/ROOT for AT&T 1.26/1.57/1.83/4.5.91 [UPDATE 07/31/11
UPDATE:Used the automatic script and everything is the way I want it. Stock look and blur but unlocked and rooted. Working just fine with no FCs

clipse94 said:
Ok. So I should explain, I had to go the sbf route last time because I was having severe issues with the phone app fcing. I tried every possible other option and looked into any other way. Going the stock gb sbf was my last resort. That was several weeks ago. I just now decided to try another rom which is where I was having issues. So, unless you know the whole story........... I think proper etiquette is if you don't have anything constructive to say the stfu.
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No.
You did not have to go the "SBF route" after unlocking. Fastboot bud, always.

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Clockworkmod recovery

Hi all. Im from the uk and have got the ATRIX on orange. I've rooted it using gingrebreak and all is good. I was just looking through rom manager and found that clockwork now has support for it. I want to install it but just need to know if it will work on my uk ATRIX, and if there's anything else I need to do like unlocking the bootloader? I've rooted and installed custom roms on my htc desire, which now runs f1 gingerbread and works great, so im not a complete noob lol. Just need a few pointers. Any help would be greeeeat. Cheers
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You'll need to have an unlocked bootloader to install this CWM build.
Ahh I see lol. Do u know if the uk orange bootloader can be unlocked yet? Thanks for replying
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gaddsta said:
Ahh I see lol. Do u know if the uk orange bootloader can be unlocked yet? Thanks for replying
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Yes it can! You'll have to start in the Atrix Development section, and go to the sticky that starts with [PUDDING]. That's where you'll find your unlock. There are a couple of guides floating around, so make sure you follow those completely!
I shall take a look and ill keep u posted. Thanks a lot
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Did this yesterday on my Telstra Atrix, bricked my phone, had to reinstall OLYEM_U4_1.4.2 and everything else from scratch, got boot error after install of CWM
Bricked? Maybe ill look some more before I commit to it. Might just wait a little longer for update then who knows. Hope ur ATRIX is well again
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gaddsta said:
Bricked? Maybe ill look some more before I commit to it. Might just wait a little longer for update then who knows. Hope ur ATRIX is well again
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He didn't hard brick, which is unrecoverable. He simply soft-bricked. He might not have unlocked his bootloader properly, or messed with something.
A hard brick can only happen if you flash an OTA update with an updated bootloader, and try to flash an older SBF file. That, in turn, would require use of NVFlash to unbrick, but NVFlash requires you to have your SBK, which seems impossible to get.
He soft bricked. That means that he just can't boot into the OS, and is easily fixed by restoring via Nandroid, or using an SBF file with RSDLite.
I have an international phone (Bell) and you need to flash the bootloader sbf. the international one is called IHOP then you can continue on to flash CWM, not sure if youve already done this but if you need help let me know.

[VIDEO] How to upgrade from stock 4.1.83 froyo to gingerbread 4.5.91

This is a video i made on how to unlock bootloader, install recovery cwm upgrade pretty much the whole process of going from 2.2.2 to 2.3.4 the quality isnt the greatest but it will do it took me reflashing my phone so i dont want any *****ing cause i didnt have to do this.
Credit to all developers who were mentioned, work was used or helped. None of this is my work i simply put together a detailed video guide around 30 minutes lol.
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBdrp8_pRdI
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ-mnJrwzSI
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgjyrAXNGAc
hope this helps!
DONT FORGET TO THANK ME!
If there are any issues, easier ways of doing this or questions dont hesitate to let me know!
Although the official update is out this rom will allow you to flash back to stock for any reason and it has an unlcoked bootloader, at the moment i recomend it over the official ota
thanks for your efforts.
keep up the good work and do post screen shots also.
Will post screenshots now
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some more screen shots
Thx! Great guide
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Pizzaapu said:
Thx! Great guide
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your welcome! push the thanks button lol
Great!
Thanks
but i'm still having the issue that AT&T Kernel from 4.5.91 freezes my touchscreen completely :-(
So as of right now, you HAVE to unlock the bootloader in order to install GB ROMs correct?
noguefr said:
Great!
Thanks
but i'm still having the issue that AT&T Kernel from 4.5.91 freezes my touchscreen completely :-(
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when does it freeze, do you open a specific app on boot up? details so that i can be of as much help as possible
r34p3rex said:
So as of right now, you HAVE to unlock the bootloader in order to install GB ROMs correct?
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yes to my knowledge because you need the newest cwm which only works with an unlocked boot loader if anyone knows other wise please illuminate me to this as i would like to make a new guide
edit: actually i believe you can sbf the leaked ota from motorolla but not many people are doing this because if you try to revert to stock it hard bricks so this is the only way if u want to go back to 1.26 or 1.83 without a brick.
Wow, amazing work. Thanks for putting so much effort in!
I just got at AT&T Atrix that comes with 4.1.52, Froyo 2.2.1. Is the procedure going to be the same at this?
Thanks again.
modman21 said:
Wow, amazing work. Thanks for putting so much effort in!
I just got at AT&T Atrix that comes with 4.1.52, Froyo 2.2.1. Is the procedure going to be the same at this?
Thanks again.
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it is the same procedure once you ota to 1.83 im not sure if it will work on previous versions also this is only for att
edit: your welcome im glad to see people needed and appreciate it
thanks for the hand here.
In fact, after wipe/reboot immediatly after system is up, the touchscreen and volume buttons don't respond at all, the only button responding is the power button....
That's weird did you have any mods installed before this?
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noguefr said:
thanks for the hand here.
In fact, after wipe/reboot immediatly after system is up, the touchscreen and volume buttons don't respond at all, the only button responding is the power button....
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are you on an att atrix if so make sure you start fromSTOCK and that you do not unzip the update if this doesnt work try one of the other roms same process should work as long as they are zips that install through cwm if still no luck flash to stock and send ur atrix in as a touchscreen malfunction its covered under waranty
Couple Questions:
I have Gingerblur installed on 4.1.83, how do I go back to stock 4.1.83?
Does this procedure also root 4.5.91 or is that done separately?
Thanks
To go back to stock there is a zip in the themes section I believe that will revert or you can SBF back to stock
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MOD please link this in the how to's there doesnt need to be any more threads asking for a guide i will be updating soon and adding a video on how to sbf back and upgrade but for now the 50+ threads asking for a guide will find this sufficient.
If I install a CustomROM now, can I run an OTA upgrade when it becomes available? (I've got stock 4.1.83)
I'm just a bit scared to upgrade to CustomROM and become stucked to only other future CustomROMs.
You can't not directly from the custom Rom but you CAN sbf back to stock and it's update
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Need serious help going back to stock[Solved]

So guy i'm kinda a noob with this phone and ive been reading a lot on this forum but i'm totally confused as to what can i do, i brought this phone second hand and its rooted with a customised rom. but i want to make the phone back to as it would come stock when you buy it new.
Details about the phone:
Android version:2.3.4
Baseband version: N_01.97.RR
if you need anything from me let me know i will do my best to provide it thanks
and guys i'm a complete noob with everything
djteotancolis said:
So guy i'm kinda a noob with this phone and ive been reading a lot on this forum but i'm totally confused as to what can i do, i brought this phone second hand and its rooted with a customised rom. but i want to make the phone back to as it would come stock when you buy it new.
Details about the phone:
Android version:2.3.4
Baseband version: N_01.97.RR
if you need anything from me let me know i will do my best to provide it thanks
and guys i'm a complete noob with everything
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I can help you out through this process, lol.
Step 1: When you turn on the phone, is there an "Unlocked" text in the top left corner?
so far all the info you've given us says it's stock. What ROM is it using?
xploited said:
I can help you out through this process, lol.
Step 1: When you turn on the phone, is there an "Unlocked" text in the top left corner?
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YEs it does say unlocked when booting up the phone
mysticdrew said:
so far all the info you've given us says it's stock. What ROM is it using?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186990&page=19
right now i switche to this ROM
djteotancolis said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186990&page=19
right now i switche to this ROM
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Ok... here's a potential issue - we don't know how the previous owner ever updated to 2.3.4 (aka if they OTA'd), which increases hard brick possibilities. Because we want to avoid a hard brick, the best course to get to "stock" would be samcripp's fruitcakes in the development section and use specifically the 2.3.4 fruitcake. This will get your phone to mostly stock, however the "Unlock" would still stay in the top corner on boot up, which is not stock and won't help you in terms of warranty if that's where you're heading.
mysticdrew said:
Ok... here's a potential issue - we don't know how the previous owner ever updated to 2.3.4 (aka if they OTA'd), which increases hard brick possibilities. Because we want to avoid a hard brick, the best course to get to "stock" would be samcripp's fruitcakes in the development section and use specifically the 2.3.4 fruitcake. This will get your phone to mostly stock, however the "Unlock" would still stay in the top corner on boot up, which is not stock and won't help you in terms of warranty if that's where you're heading.
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Oh alright i get it. thanks a lot, i'll look in the fruitcake thing, why cant i lock the bootloader again?
Mainly because the bootloader relocking commands don't actually do anything.
Once the bootloader is unlocked it can't be locked again. Motorola uses the unlocked text at the top left as proof that you were modifying your phone therefore voiding the phones warranty.
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armonwilson888 said:
Once the bootloader is unlocked it can't be locked again. Motorola uses the unlocked text at the top left as proof that you were modifying your phone therefore voiding the phones warranty.
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Oh alright thanks a lot for the info, looks like motorola is being pretty strict about their bootloaders
Diviance said:
Mainly because the bootloader relocking commands don't actually do anything.
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That makes a bit of sense
thanks
Actually, you are really lucky that the previous owner did all the modding (eliminating risk of bricking while doing it for you .
Now you can install a stock ROM as well as any of the custom ROMs, and when CM7 arrives you will be ready for it too.
To revert back to stock 2.3.4 with your current setup, download the 2.3.4 fruitcake CWM package in the developer's forums. Boot into CWM, fully backup your current system. Wipe all data, install stock rom from your SD card, wipe data again, reboot enjoy.

X-play custom rom

Hi I'm new to the custom rom's and instead of searching through countless topics, mixing up instructions. I was wondering if I could get some directions.
Play is unrooted 2.3.3. I would like instructions on how to put a custom rom on the phone, and which custom rom would be recommended. Thanks in advance people.
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is your phone fastboot enabled? (does the notification light in the power button turn blue if you hold the search button and then connect the usb to computer?)
If you want a custom rom but dont want to search and read these forums, i give your phone a week before you brick it.
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If you want a custom rom but dont want to search and read these forums, i give your phone a week before you brick it.
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or we could help people within the comunity to understand what's out there, the risks involved and how to get around the problems that could arise? we all need things explaining to us once in a while.
Oh im sorry i see your point, it is always good to be helpful, i am trying to be helpful as well when i say you should search and read, i mean look at all the countless threads where people didnt want to read, theres like 3 help im bricked threads per page.
lol. i know what you mean. and i know it can be frustrating. it's just a shame that the play is so much more complicated than the x10 that i was previously on. it was all flashtool and update.zip stuff. practically unbrickable!! loved it. fastboot and adb complicate things, and i feel that some of the tutorials can be a little confusing to total noobs. so we need to be accomodating to their lack of knowledge (i hardly know anything, so i'm still quite noobish), but also, people need to accept their own actions and consequences. not sure what i'm getting at now, but things need to be simpler for people who want to start out
Actually the way of installation is exactly the same for any custom ROM in this phone.
1) unlock your bootloader, either for free if you bought a factory unlocked phone or for some cash sending Alejandrissimo a PM, which you have to use if your phone is branded and/or Sim locked. You only need to do this step once.
2) install a custom kernel. There are two: DoomLord's kernel and the Cyanogen Mod kernel. The latter allows you only to install CM7. Doom's allows you to install the others.
3) Enter in Clockwork Mod recovery and install the ROM you prefer as long as your kernel of choice supports it.
As to which ROM you should pick, I use CM7 because it's stable and fast. Visit those threads and see for yourself which is the one you like best.
my personal favorite (until cm7 became more usable, and also because i like dooms kernel) was zerojay's aptly named zerorom. it's a very clean and fast sony based rom full of optimizations and tweaks. i'm currently trying out the FXP028 release of cm7 to see if it's more to my liking than it was in previous releases.
Unfortunately locked to Rogers. Is there a free way of unlocking the bootloader and how?
Again I'm currently running 2.3.3 nonrooted. Had it rooted on 2. 3. 2. but ofcourse lost it with update.
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8ballhacker said:
Unfortunately locked to Rogers. Is there a free way of unlocking the bootloader and how?
Again I'm currently running 2.3.3 nonrooted. Had it rooted on 2. 3. 2. but ofcourse lost it with update.
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No there isnt.
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If you want root get wantonserver and flash na generic 2.3.2 root it with gingerbreak and then ota update to 2.3.3+
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No there isnt.
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well, one free way could be if you could swap a branded phone to someone who doesnt care and has a generic model
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well, one free way could be if you could swap a branded phone to someone who doesnt care and has a generic model
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True, but paying $20 dollars to get it unlocked sounds like less of a pain in the ass
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Bump, has anyone been able to get Cyanogen mod onto the Rogers r800a? This locked boot loader is really causing me grief. Have the phone rooted, cwr is installed as well as busy Box. Getting closer, but still no cigar.
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Bump, has anyone been able to get Cyanogen mod onto the Rogers r800a? This locked boot loader is really causing me grief. Have the phone rooted, cwr is installed as well as busy Box. Getting closer, but still no cigar.
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You can flash CM7, but i doubt it will boot with stock kernel.
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AndroHero said:
You can flash CM7, but i doubt it will boot with stock kernel.
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Just to confirm, without the proper Kernel I am more than likely to brick my play? Many Thanks!
mcorbeil said:
Just to confirm, without the proper Kernel I am more than likely to brick my play? Many Thanks!
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You won't brick it, if kernel is incompatible device with either not boot, or bootloop, flahing stock rom with flashtool will fix it though.
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HELP please

I want to sell my atrix realy soon and i was worried about a couple of things
My atrix's bootloader is rooted, and i have CM7 installed but i want to restore it to stock settings before i sell it
I was thinking of installing a rom like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195922 to restore everything, even the recovery imagine
My main concern is that if the buyer tries to update his phone from inside the OS over OTA, will it brick the device? And what do you suggest i should flash/do to return the phone to full stock?(I guess it would be fine to leave the bootloader unlocked, no?)
Thanks
First, this is a question, which belongs in the question and answer section. Second, your bootloader isn't rooted. Its unlocked. Your phone is rooted. Third, this question has been asked and answered so many times I honestly can't remember how many. However, ill give you the simple answer. Go to the development section to the firmware superthread. Download the GINGERBREAD 2.3.4 Sbf and flash it with rsd lite. It will make it appear as if yer bootloader is locked again and will put everything back to stock.
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Phalanx7621 said:
First, this is a question, which belongs in the question and answer section. Second, your bootloader isn't rooted. Its unlocked. Your phone is rooted. Third, this question has been asked and answered so many times I honestly can't remember how many. However, ill give you the simple answer. Go to the development section to the firmware superthread. Download the GINGERBREAD 2.3.4 Sbf and flash it with rsd lite. It will make it appear as if yer bootloader is locked again and will put everything back to stock.
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i meant unlocked, not rooted typo, and isn't it risky to do that?
Yes, it is risky to do, even the SBF file for stock GingerBread that includes the pudding unlock has been reported to have hard bricked a few phones (but usually works).
To be safest, I would suggest hitting up the fruit cake thread in the development section, and installing a GingerBread fruit cake. Your phone will still say "unlocked", but it will be running Motorola's Stock GB release.
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