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I am about ready to take the plunge and PermaRoot my MT4G. I do not believe I would be flashing every single type of rom out there - my intention is to install CM7 (one of the unofficial nightlies - i.e. grids 55 - or a variant of CM7). I have read both guides and threads to get PermaRoot and I am still unclear as to which of the two procedures that I need to do (the ULTIMATE guide seems like it has the potential to really brick the phone permanently - maybe I read that wrong?):
"Guide to permaroot, s=off AND s=on!!!!!"
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"TRUE PermaRoot and the ULTIMATE S=Off!!! Check this out even if you're rooted!!!"
perm rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
would follow these steps plus the engineering hboot, thats what I ended up doing and have no problems flashing roms.
I rooted via theunlockr.com. I have s =off too. No problems flashing roms. Great how to videos also.
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i've done it both ways, and they both worked...the ultimate is of coz the best, as it gives u the eng hboot, and also unlocks the phone so you can use it with other sim card..it's a little deep, if you dont know what to do..but once you figure it out, it really is pretty routine..
Thank you all. Rooted and happily running cm7 9.
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I'm thinking about rooting my gf's glacier and have read the wiki regarding the methods to use, it appears similar to the G2 visionary plus gfree method,i however used the gfree and rage exploit instead so I was wondering could I do the same with the glacier? Its not covered in the wiki so I'm reluctant to do so, any help is appreciated!
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justthetip said:
I'm thinking about rooting my gf's glacier and have read the wiki regarding the methods to use, it appears similar to the G2 visionary plus gfree method,i however used the gfree and rage exploit instead so I was wondering could I do the same with the glacier? Its not covered in the wiki so I'm reluctant to do so, any help is appreciated!
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This is best method for rooting ones MyTouchHD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
They are rooted slightly differently. The files are not exactly the same.
I would definitely use the above link. A week ago I had no idea what rooting was, and I used that link and followed the directions to the T. It was a great walk through and it worked perfectly.
thanks for the replies guys! i will just go ahead and stick to what the wiki says, and as for the link mentioned above is that the preferred method?
I don't know if it is the preferred method by everyone, but it definitely is for me, since it worked great. I followed the instructions in the link neidlinger posted to a tee, and it worked exactly as stated. I had a factory fresh Glacier with 2.2.1 on it and this method worked perfect. I now have permanent root and with no issues whatsoever.
after more reading it appears i can use the gfree + rage method! but it is known as the cyanogenmod way when it comes to this phone.
question, i rooted my mt4g i think before that thread was published so i used visionary to get temp and perm root.
is my device rooted the same as this method? i know i dont have the sim unlocked like my G2 is via using the gfree but is it still just as good?
i just installed cyanogenmod 7nightly 8 on it and it seems to be running ok. i havent played with it tho as it is not my primary device anymore (went to a G2).
if so, can Gfree root still be done? can i still do the gfree method on the phone with a terminal emulator like i did on the G2 because i cannot get ADB to install or recognize a phone on my computer at all.
tackleberry said:
question, i rooted my mt4g i think before that thread was published so i used visionary to get temp and perm root.
is my device rooted the same as this method? i know i dont have the sim unlocked like my G2 is via using the gfree but is it still just as good?
i just installed cyanogenmod 7nightly 8 on it and it seems to be running ok. i havent played with it tho as it is not my primary device anymore (went to a G2).
if so, can Gfree root still be done? can i still do the gfree method on the phone with a terminal emulator like i did on the G2 because i cannot get ADB to install or recognize a phone on my computer at all.
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If you read the title in the thread it explains that you should still do it and why. Also you can check out my adb thread in the dev section or in my signature for a easy 5 minute setup. There is a video too. And yes you can do it with terminal emulator too.
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TrueBlue_Drew said:
If you read the title in the thread it explains that you should still do it and why. Also you can check out my adb thread in the dev section or in my signature for a easy 5 minute setup. There is a video too. And yes you can do it with terminal emulator too.
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Are the instructions for using gfree via term emulator in the link above or somewhere else? Thanks for the info. Im kinda done with adb its starting to make me want to throw my laptop lol
From my permarooted 1209mhz G2 with CM7 nightly 6
Ok so I got this new phone in replacement from the motorola defy... the tmobile tech gave it the official 2.3.4 update but I want it rooted. Does any one know how can I do this to my phone?
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SEARCH. READ.
This thread has been made many many times. Check the threads, the wiki, etc.. There are ways to downgrade and achieve root now.
You can do it, but you have to use frevo and abd.
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follow this guide to downgrade the g2/DZ to stock Froyo:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
Then you can permroot your device by following this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
dude if u havent done it yet..way simpler way to do this http://techticians.com/index.php/mobile-tech/14-mobile-phones/27-rooting-the-t-mobile-g2
wow thats a good deal for the defy....
@martonikaj maybe you can help a dude out--i am not able to push the files to the device at all i keep getting permission denied in the command prompt and also if i do the downgrade(get it to work that means the radio has been downgraded as well)can i get that back because it really improved my signal in some areas where i had only 2g service i now get 4g--i read the wiki backwards and forwards although i broke my stock usb cable maybe this is the problem im using one that i picked up from the tmo store just the general one--i got adb and sdk all that jazz got a pretty good understanding for a noob so im kind of stuck...
Hey guys I'm bout to root my firnds phone and I was wondering on the xda thread it said after I downgrade from gingerbread all I have to do is use any FROYO rooting method to get full perm root...I'm a guy from the G2 and Desire Z forum and was wondering if I can root the mytouch 4G using the G2 instructions with gfree or is their an advanced way meant for only the mytouch 4G(glacier)
*all I need to know is a rooting method for the phone NOT downgrading.
* thanks to everybody contributing in this
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I believe that you MUST downgrade the phone to froyo before you can root it,
And I would say it would save you alot of trouble to just follow one of this device's guides instead of using the G2s.
And yea, what you said on the first part is correct, you downgrade from gingerbread to froyo, then use a froyo rooting method (from this device) and perm root.
Yes, you can the guide in the G2 and Desire Z forums guide to downgrade. It says "[GUIDE] Downgrade G2 (2.3.X) & DZ (2.3.X) & mT4g (2.3.4) & DHD w/ S-ON to Stock Froyo". I used the guide, worked flawlessly. Guy did a great job!
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I believe that you MUST downgrade the phone to froyo before you can root it,
And I would say it would save you alot of trouble to just follow one of this device's guides instead of using the G2s.
And yea, what you said on the first part is correct, you downgrade from gingerbread to froyo, then use a froyo rooting method (from this device) and perm root.
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So to conclude your saying I can use the G2 rooting method to root the mytouch 4G after downgrading?
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No. You must use one of the guides in our development section that are stickied. I prefer ./gfree, so use this one.
invasion2 said:
Yes, you can the guide in the G2 and Desire Z forums guide to downgrade. It says "[GUIDE] Downgrade G2 (2.3.X) & DZ (2.3.X) & mT4g (2.3.4) & DHD w/ S-ON to Stock Froyo". I used the guide, worked flawlessly. Guy did a great job!
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Yes I know that I can downgrade and I did it no problem there its the rooting that I'm concerned about
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Barry:// said:
Yes I know that I can downgrade and I did it no problem there its the rooting that I'm concerned about
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I recently downgraded and rooted my mytouch 4g gingerbread phone to install ICS. If you are already downgraded then follow "Ultimate Guide and CM7 Installation (Works with any other ROM)" guide at http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier#Froyo_2.2.1 It worked perfectly for me.
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No. You must use one of the guides in our development section that are stickied. I prefer ./gfree, so use this one.
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Is this the best and esist way to root...without bricking chances
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Barry:// said:
Is this the best and esist way to root...without bricking chances
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Check you eMMC chip to see if you have the bad chip. I had some problems with the gfree method. I could not get a temproot using visionary So I followed the other guide which I posted earlier.
Barry:// said:
So to conclude your saying I can use the G2 rooting method to root the mytouch 4G after downgrading?
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No, I suggest not
Barry:// said:
Is this the best and esist way to root...without bricking chances
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There's always a chance of bricking, but that's only when you don't follow the guide. Just make sure to read the instructions thoroughly, follow the steps, and you should have no problem.
Alright I think I have enough info to move on to the rooting
I chosse the one with gfree with the visionary
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this is the thread that i followed to root MT4G after downgrading;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
it is gfree method pretty much push gfree onto phone using android sdk and use visionary+ to temp root then later perm root the device.
it's pretty thorough
check it out if you haven't already.
there are alternative methods to rooting such as the "one click" methods but i'd stay away from those.
gfree method is exactly the same for G2 and MT4G.
You can use the same thread for downgrading (just use the right file for MT4G), and use the same procedure for rooting. If you worked on G2, and read the stickied rooting thread in Development section, you probably noticed the similarities yourself.
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gfree method is exactly the same for G2 and MT4G.
You can use the same thread for downgrading (just use the right file for MT4G), and use the same procedure for rooting. If you worked on G2, and read the stickied rooting thread in Development section, you probably noticed the similarities yourself.
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Its the same rooting procudure just the file names like the hboot and stuff is diff
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Hang on a sec, is this true? I have to downgrade before rooting? There's no way to root a Gingerbread T-Mobile MyTouch 4G? I'm starting from complete stock T-Mo. any help would be awesome, thanks.
If you can read it all over the forum, and can't find anything else in the million stickied and non-stickied guides - why would you think that there is some other way?
There's either HTCDev unlock or downgrading.
Because I'm stupid and I'm a lazy noob who wants other people to do my searching for me.
Oh, was I being the "idiot forum member" again that asks a question and therefore deserves attitude? I apologize. I'm sorry to have wasted 30 seconds of your life.
Before you say, "but, but, but it's just that nobody ever searches... " just remember you could have just ignored my question.
Thanks for the HTCDev suggestion. I'll look it up to see what that's all about.
If you have froyo 2.2 then you don't have to downgrade
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md1008 said:
If you have froyo 2.2 then you don't have to downgrade
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Unfortunately I'm on Gingerbread. I'll follow the downgrade instructions, I guess. I know I might be asking for it, but it seems pretty convoluted trying to figure out the accepted method today for rooting this phone. All the methods say they're best but they're all saying that at a particular time.
Is there any one of the methods that performs a SIM unlock?
tinpanalley said:
Unfortunately I'm on Gingerbread. I'll follow the downgrade instructions, I guess. I know I might be asking for it, but it seems pretty convoluted trying to figure out the accepted method today for rooting this phone. All the methods say they're best but they're all saying that at a particular time.
Is there any one of the methods that performs a SIM unlock?
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And every thread has a date on it. Gfree can unlock SIM.
Hi, I've been trying to fully S-OFF my buddy's new MyTouch 4G Glacier that he ordered online. It has Android 2.3.4 and I was able to unlock bootloader and put clockworkmod touch recovery. But he wants a Rom and custom kernel. Flashing kernels won't work via fastboot or they do, but don't actually apply. I wanted to just fully Perm-S-OFF it with the guide in Dev thread, but the link to Visionary+ apk isn't working. I've searched n searched on XDA and Google. All links I find are either BS malware or 404'd lol. Does anyone have a copy of it I could get? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. -Drew
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Google "modaco visionary". If you want I'll PM you a link to their site since I'm not allowed to post it yet (noob rule). I'm sure you'll find it though. Good luck!
[Edit] BTW, your antivirus isn't going to like visionary, but it's a good download. It's the one I used.
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upncoming said:
Google "modaco visionary". If you want I'll PM you a link to their site since I'm not allowed to post it yet (noob rule). I'm sure you'll find it though. Good luck!
[Edit] BTW, your antivirus isn't going to like visionary, but it's a good download. It's the one I used.
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I actually went to his main link on his website/forum. But when you put in captcha, it just goes to broken link on his site. So he either took it down or moved it and hasn't changed link.. so yeh if u got latest r14 of it, I'd appreciate a link in my PM. Thanks for replying too!
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Whoops! That's ok. I've got another link to a different part of the modaco site. I tested and was able to download. I'll PM you in a minute.
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If you are on gingerbread 2.3.4 you will have to downgrade the software before acquiring root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462025
Once you do the downgrade you shouldn't have any problems
Cheers
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romuloxiii said:
If you are on gingerbread 2.3.4 you will have to downgrade the software before acquiring root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462025
Once you do the downgrade you shouldn't have any problems
Cheers
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I've actually already acquired root. Just need perm S-OFF. Guess I tech don't need temp-root with that visionary app, if I already have full root on 2.3.4, is it possible to run that PermS-OFF patch that is in Dev section? Or does it still need to be ran on Froyo ROM? Can flash ROM's
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Sorry, i guess i misunderstood. Im not sure about whether you need to be on Froyo to achieve s-off with visionary. it's worth a shot....cheers
It just occurred to me that i think i used the gfree method when i got s-off on my phone. You may want to consider trying that method if visionary won't work for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
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This is how bricks happen!
Ill wait for the I bricked by friends phone thread u will create later on.
Why can't you flash as is? Did you unlock the boot loader via HTC dev unlock? If so, you will need to relock it, then find the guides to downgrade to froyo, and then root from there...
Well my intention is not to give bad advice but rather state what worked for me. If this method can lead to a bricked device then i appologise for the bad info.
Cheers
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Such a lot of mess...
A phone unlocked with HTCDev should receive custom kernels, if it doesn't - it means the kernels aren't being flashed correctly and OP should learn to use fastboot.
A phone unlocked with HTCDev won't get downgraded unless relocked.
Without downgrading there won't be S-OFF of any kind. Neither gfree nor root.sh work on Gingerbread.
Rooting isn't S-OFF.
Putting custom ROM on isn't rooting.
To flash anything from recovery only, without using fastboot, S-OFF is required.
Jack_R1 said:
Such a lot of mess...
A phone unlocked with HTCDev should receive custom kernels, if it doesn't - it means the kernels aren't being flashed correctly and OP should learn to use fastboot.
A phone unlocked with HTCDev won't get downgraded unless relocked.
Without downgrading there won't be S-OFF of any kind. Neither gfree nor root.sh work on Gingerbread.
Rooting isn't S-OFF.
Putting custom ROM on isn't rooting.
To flash anything from recovery only, without using fastboot, S-OFF is required.
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thanks for the summery. very useful.
Jack_R1 said:
Such a lot of mess...
A phone unlocked with HTCDev should receive custom kernels, if it doesn't - it means the kernels aren't being flashed correctly and OP should learn to use fastboot.
A phone unlocked with HTCDev won't get downgraded unless relocked.
Without downgrading there won't be S-OFF of any kind. Neither gfree nor root.sh work on Gingerbread.
Rooting isn't S-OFF.
Putting custom ROM on isn't rooting.
To flash anything from recovery only, without using fastboot, S-OFF is required.
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I have achieved S-OFF a long time back and updated my ROM. I needed to use the terminal emulator the other day in super user mode but was denied SU access. Remembering back I had used visionary to obtain root and thus su access. Visionary no longer runs (it appears to lock up in a black screen) nor am I able su access.
How can one obtain su access after s-off has been achieved and the phone has downloaded an update?
su reports the su binary is out of date.
Thank you.
Update the su
binaries
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russellvone said:
Update the su
binaries
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Been looking for a method to do that for 4 hours. Any ideas where to look?
A thread called "Root for S-OFF users" in Development section would probably be a very good start (and hopefully finish).
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A thread called "Root for S-OFF users" in Development section would probably be a very good start (and hopefully finish).
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It was a start, but not a finish and since it was in the development section, I was not allowed to respond to it.
For completeness after a dozen or so further hours of searching, this tool rooted my S-off phone.
w w w.androidauthority<dot>com/root-any-htc-phone-tablet-117724
(appears I am not allowed to post proper links either.)