Does the native player of Xoom also plays 1080p video files
ie. mp4, avi, wmv, etc.
If not, does other players like vplayer, mobo could make this possible?
I doubt as Motorola Web and Wikipedia say the Xoom can play
"Up to 720p video" but sure it's not quite enough as long as HDMI it to a 32" TV.
Therefore is it possible for Xoom playing 1080p video smoothly?
Thank You. And I'm from Hong Kong (although there's nothing to do with the question )
it can play 1080p but video stutter.
Thank You. And I'm from Hong Kong (although there's nothing to do with the question )
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
true. 1080p will trouble as much to bill clinton.
you can convert a 1080p mkv to mp4 format and it will play with no issues. or converting, i suggest DVDCatalyst.
See, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 states 1080p video playback
I wonder is there any meaning the video playback ability of GT10.1
has overpower to Xoom?
BTW I personally hate converting.
My ideal Tab is a replacement for netbook,
which with proper software and codec
almost nothing it won't play.
So if there's something tablet is incapable of
please let me know.
Thanks for all your replies, they really make a difference.
All the tegra 2 tablets are similar software wise.
The 10.1 won't play videos any better than the xoom. Return your android tablet if you expect it to replace windows.
I've surveyed many of the players on the Android market yesterday,
and most won't play a 720p x264 Mkv with ac3.
Best is qqplayer. Next best is vplayer, but really it can't either,
So only qqplayer. If anyone knows better, please speak up.
Otherwise, use plex it is the best transcoding streaming player around..
Sent from my MZ604 using Tapatalk
Galaxy Tab 10.1 can play 1080 video formats?
Sent from my GT-I9000B
Using Moboplayer (from market) with Tiamat 2.2, 1080p video will just about play, but its not ideal.
720p is fine.
I only play file resolutions up to 720p on the Xoom because of the native resolution. I use Mobo player for my .avi and DVD Catalyst converted .mp4 files but if I am in a rush and have a high bit rate 720p .mkv file, the Dice player plays everything I throw at it. I have monitored my usage of both and I really mainly use Mobo. Dice comes in handy when I just don't want to wait for a conversion because I am heading out on short notice and is the only player I have found to play high bit rate 720p .mkv x.264 files. I prefer converting because I can give the video files a color boost in DVD Catalyst since videos seem to lose their punch on the Xoom screen.
Dice player plays 720p no prob
Sent from my Xoom using xda premium
bluenote73 said:
I've surveyed many of the players on the Android market yesterday,
and most won't play a 720p x264 Mkv with ac3.
Best is qqplayer. Next best is vplayer, but really it can't either,
So only qqplayer. If anyone knows better, please speak up.
Otherwise, use plex it is the best transcoding streaming player around..
Sent from my MZ604 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've had good results with BSPlayer.
One thing is beyond my understanding.
My past Samsung infuse with 1.2ghz single core processor was able to play 1080p itunes trailers but xoom tablet struggles.
Also Xoom has native support for .mp4 files and .mov/.mkv/.avi requires extra treatment whether extra player or software decoding.
.........................
on a general note (covers most mobiles and tablets and/or android os)
why companies release crippled products to market?
The end user is left to work out what is working and what is not.
Xoom is upper range product and it is not acceptable that it can't play 1080p files smoothly.
rohit3192 said:
One thing is beyond my understanding.
My past Samsung infuse with 1.2ghz single core processor was able to play 1080p itunes trailers but xoom tablet struggles.
Also Xoom has native support for .mp4 files and .mov/.mkv/.avi requires extra treatment whether extra player or software decoding.
.........................
on a general note (covers most mobiles and tablets and/or android os)
why companies release crippled products to market?
The end user is left to work out what is working and what is not.
Xoom is upper range product and it is not acceptable that it can't play 1080p files smoothly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Xoom does play 1080p but how well depends on the codec and player. As for why you would want to play 1080p videos on a 720p screen, I just can't comprehend. It will not look better because the screen resolution is lower than 1080p. If you played 1080p on any screen lower than 1920x1080 pixels you will not be getting the benefit of the 1080p resolution.
Isun said:
The Xoom does play 1080p but how well depends on the codec and player. As for why you would want to play 1080p videos on a 720p screen, I just can't comprehend. It will not look better because the screen resolution is lower than 1080p. If you played 1080p on any screen lower than 1920x1080 pixels you will not be getting the benefit of the 1080p resolution.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And the Downscaling? Don't have it?
Sent from my MZ604 using Tapatalk
andpantanal said:
And the Downscaling? Don't have it?
Sent from my MZ604 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you must keep the resolution at 1080p then the best thing for stutter free playback is at least convert into an .mp4 which DVD Catalyst does but again, there will not be noticeable quality increase over a 720p. If I had a 1080p .mkv that I wanted to play on the Xoom, that would be one of the times when I would prefer convert or downsize but for everything else including 720p .mkv, we no longer need to convert.
Isun said:
If you must keep the resolution at 1080p then the best thing for stutter free playback is at least convert into an .mp4 which DVD Catalyst does but again, there will not be noticeable quality increase over a 720p. If I had a 1080p .mkv that I wanted to play on the Xoom, that would be one of the times when I would prefer convert or downsize but for everything else including 720p .mkv, we no longer need to convert.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From my perspective you are badly missing the point - what use is a tablet that can play videos if you have to carry around a pc to convert them first. Its a pain in the butt.
Sent from my LG-P999 using Tapatalk
I use Dice Player to play all my video. It is easily the best HD movie player out there and plays high profile 720p but I haven't tried 1080p. As I don't have a 1080p TV, there's no need. Check out the Dice Player trial.
bluenote73 said:
From my perspective you are badly missing the point - what use is a tablet that can play videos if you have to carry around a pc to convert them first. Its a pain in the butt.
Sent from my LG-P999 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats just the thing though, we need to be realistic. You don't have to convert any videos other than high bit rate 1080p which even if you were only using a desktop PC you would need to meet a system requirement to play. Tablets like these are new. Could you imagine a few years ago having a 1Ghz laptop with 1GB of RAM and being pissed it wont play my 1080p movie in 3D? The Xoom is one of the first of it's kind and was never designed to play high bit rate 1080p and you find that a bother. It's like buying an Ipod 8 yrs ago then saying what good is this if all my CD's wont play on it. You had to rip & convert everything or buy the file which was still then converted. The screen is 720p. Most shows on T.V. are 720p or upscaled 720p (1080i). Where are you getting 1080p videos from, Blu Ray and digital copies which all need to be 'converted' in order to become a portable file on any system unless you have a disc player or made a 20GB image rip. Its not a pain in the butt to have to only convert one file type. My laptop is very powerful but cant play movies in 3D yet my T.V. can, should I be upset? I should add, Dice player is still the way to go to play all files with no conversion unless you want to play high bit rate 1080p on a screen not designed for it.
Related
I am a little disappointed in the Xoom for not being able to play 720p mkv files properly.
I have a lot of .mkv video files and I love to watch movies on a tablet.
So can the galaxy tab play 720p mkv files without problem?
Well i didn't know that whether Galaxy play or not but the new MacBook pro can play 720p video.
Earthbrain said:
I am a little disappointed in the Xoom for not being able to play 720p mkv files properly.
I have a lot of .mkv video files and I love to watch movies on a tablet.
So can the galaxy tab play 720p mkv files without problem?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
mkv is a container. If the video was encoded using h.264, the tab will play.
Wtf, why bother mentioning a macbook? Are you on pills, or did you forget to take them??
The Sgt plays all kinds of videos, even 1080p without any problems.
Yes, the SGT can play 720p .mkvs with no issue, it's something I do on a regular basis with mine.
Ehsan Mahmood said:
Well i didn't know that whether Galaxy play or not but the new MacBook pro can play 720p video.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The tab handles greatly hd video. For some reason it even supports mkv and external subtitles with the built in player. Aaaand my mid 2008 MacBook already plays with no issue full hd video, so it goes without question that a newer cpu coupled with a decent/good video chip will play a simple 720p file XD
Sent from my GT-P1000 using Tapatalk
Galaxy Tab is a good video player and play the most formats. Only if it has stereo sound. It cant handle multichannel audio.
And a sad thing is that most of the mvk movies has multichannel 5.1 DD dts etc. So you need to convert them ao you get stereo sound or it wont play the movie.
Galaxy Tab has a really good stock player. Rockplayer vplayer cant compare to the stock one that works great.
I belive that those who have problems whit playing movies whit xoom, have movies whit multichannel. Have not got any answer if android 3.0 can handle it. I now that android 2.2 Cant handle it and had hopes that 3.0 should play multichannel.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using Tapatalk
720p should work fine.
I managed to play 2 1080p movies on the plan with no problems
crippleb0y said:
Wtf, why bother mentioning a macbook? Are you on pills, or did you forget to take them??
The Sgt plays all kinds of videos, even 1080p without any problems.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1
Was thinking the exact same thing. He probably didn't do too well with comprehension tests at school. SMH
Sent from my GT-P1000 using Tapatalk
mhd
i have test it with any 720p .mkv movies multichannel or not and plays them perfect with the build in player. Ultra smooth and very low battery usage.
And if you change the coding inside the srt file you can have greek subtitles too
nectons2000 said:
i have test it with any 720p .mkv movies multichannel or not and plays them perfect with the build in player. Ultra smooth and very low battery usage.
And if you change the coding inside the srt file you can have greek subtitles too
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What version of the Galaxy Tab do you have?? (Sprint, Verizon, Locked / Unlocked etc..??)
Just thought I would throw out that there is a huge difference in performance and stability on the Xoom when using Rockplayer Universal from the Rockplayer website versus Rockplayer Lite in the Market. Many(not all) of my playback issues have been solved. Hope this helps some people.
Link-
http://www.rockplayer.com/index_en.html
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
What playback issues were you having that were resolved? Are you playing avi's or mkv files?? Tried h.264 high profile encoded videos in either 720p or 1080p?
Unfortunately no, it does not resolve the mkv issues. But the overall playback quality is much improved for me. Xvid files are playing much smoother. There is much less tiling and pixelation and improved audio quality.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
I have problems with Rockplayer freezing my Xoom when I play AVIs and change the scaling. However, if I leave it alone, it does play files that the stock video player doesn't.
I just tried playing an AVI and it seems to be playing just fine
Everyone is complaining about the high profile HD. It is sad something this powerful has a crazy limit or flaw but, In reality if you wanted to watch those are you really going to put that many movies on a micro SD card? Most of my TV shows and movies are avi. 10 hours of playback I want more to watch.
What I would have liked is a better way to stream from my nas. Sucks to have to copy over to watch something.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA App
thehavock18 said:
Everyone is complaining about the high profile HD. It is sad something this powerful has a crazy limit or flaw but, In reality if you wanted to watch those are you really going to put that many movies on a micro SD card? Most of my TV shows and movies are avi. 10 hours of playback I want more to watch.
What I would have liked is a better way to stream from my nas. Sucks to have to copy over to watch something.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In reality yes. I want to copy what I have available quickly to the SD card and walk out the door. With the HD high profile issue, I have to convert everything I want to watch on the Zoom before I can walk out the door. Just converted a 2 hour 720p MKV movie using Handbrake and it took one hour to complete. But it does look very nice and works properly.
Is there any tablet out there that you can just throw any high profile HD video and it will play flawlessly?
Let me check, one of the best tablet right now is iPad.
No, it cannot play high profile video:
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87921/ipad-as-video-device-not-so-much/
The iPad can only play back video files in .mp4, .mpv, and .mov file formats with H.264 video at Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps/48kHz. In other words, the iPad basically plays back video in the iTunes format and really nothing else.
So, I would not complaint much probably.
I know, there are some single core phones that can play high profile video.
But probably, Tegra 2 offers something else which those single core could not, for example: good battery life? Or ...?
keitht said:
In reality yes. I want to copy what I have available quickly to the SD card and walk out the door. With the HD high profile issue, I have to convert everything I want to watch on the Zoom before I can walk out the door. Just converted a 2 hour 720p MKV movie using Handbrake and it took one hour to complete. But it does look very nice and works properly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thehavock18 said:
Everyone is complaining about the high profile HD. It is sad something this powerful has a crazy limit or flaw but, In reality if you wanted to watch those are you really going to put that many movies on a micro SD card? Most of my TV shows and movies are avi. 10 hours of playback I want more to watch.
What I would have liked is a better way to stream from my nas. Sucks to have to copy over to watch something.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Average 720P movie in high profile h.264 is under 5 GB. Xoom has 30gb free space. Also, don't forget tv shows in 720P which are around a GB for 42 minutes.
And don't forget that as soon as the Xoom is given CIFS support, it will be able, or should be able rather, to stream movies and whatever else off your network.
gogol said:
Is there any tablet out there that you can just throw any high profile HD video and it will play flawlessly?
Let me check, one of the best tablet right now is iPad.
No, it cannot play high profile video:
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87921/ipad-as-video-device-not-so-much/
The iPad can only play back video files in .mp4, .mpv, and .mov file formats with H.264 video at Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps/48kHz. In other words, the iPad basically plays back video in the iTunes format and really nothing else.
So, I would not complaint much probably.
I know, there are some single core phones that can play high profile video.
But probably, Tegra 2 offers something else which those single core could not, for example: good battery life? Or ...?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Uh, the Galaxy Tab running Froyo cranks out high profile like a boss. My Epic4g cranks out high profile like a boss.
gogol said:
Is there any tablet out there that you can just throw any high profile HD video and it will play flawlessly?
Let me check, one of the best tablet right now is iPad.
No, it cannot play high profile video:
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87921/ipad-as-video-device-not-so-much/
The iPad can only play back video files in .mp4, .mpv, and .mov file formats with H.264 video at Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps/48kHz. In other words, the iPad basically plays back video in the iTunes format and really nothing else.
So, I would not complaint much probably.
I know, there are some single core phones that can play high profile video.
But probably, Tegra 2 offers something else which those single core could not, for example: good battery life? Or ...?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My Galaxy S phone plays them flawlessly. I guess my expectations were too high. I thought a dual core processor would be capable.
BS...
gogol said:
Is there any tablet out there that you can just throw any high profile HD video and it will play flawlessly?
Let me check, one of the best tablet right now is iPad.
No, it cannot play high profile video:
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87921/ipad-as-video-device-not-so-much/
The iPad can only play back video files in .mp4, .mpv, and .mov file formats with H.264 video at Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps/48kHz. In other words, the iPad basically plays back video in the iTunes format and really nothing else.
So, I would not complaint much probably.
I know, there are some single core phones that can play high profile video.
But probably, Tegra 2 offers something else which those single core could not, for example: good battery life? Or ...?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My iPad looks amazingly smooth on high profile x264 files encoded by Handbrake. The XOOM chokes so badly on these files it looks like a bad slideshow. YOU ARE WRONG.
I watch a lot of anime and that would be the primary function of this tablet for me. I was wondering if this tablet could handle the 720p/1080p mkv files encoded in h624. and also if they support subtitles.
here is a test file for current 10.1 owners.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9ZQAFZIZ
I got lots of anime 720P MKV files. They won't play on any Tegra 2 tablet I've had, including this one.
There video player apps in the Market that will play MKV.. but they don't usually support hardware acceleration so it'll prolly be very choppy :/
There's not a tablet out in existence im aware of that can play MKV with hardware accel.. sigh.
Galaxy Tab 7" can, and I suspect the HTC Flyer could too.
Regards,
Dave
First thing I do with all my anime mkv is to convert them to mp4 with the subs burned in, with Handbrake. I prefer this because it takes the guess work out of not knowing if this device will play such and such mkv, and everything handles mp4 nowadays moreso than mkv. Even Archos devices that are the king of media codecs and formats have problems with some mkv files even, because as a container an mkv file could contain a myriad combo of codecs.
LordLugard said:
First thing I do with all my anime mkv is to convert them to mp4 with the subs burned in, with Handbrake. I prefer this because it takes the guess work out of not knowing if this device will play such and such mkv, and everything handles mp4 nowadays moreso than mkv. Even Archos devices that are the king of media codecs and formats have problems with some mkv files even, because as a container an mkv file could contain a myriad combo of codecs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here. I'm just using handbrake to convert all my movies to mp4 so there is no worry. Handbrake will let you queue up items so you can basically just let it run.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using Tapatalk
When the TouchWiz update comes out expect this tablet to get a lot more media friendly.
Mine would appear to play mkv files no problem, although I can't control them, fast forward or jump to a certain point, which means I wouldn't want to rely on it.
(Stock player and Vplayer on 3.1)
**EDIT ** Actually, the sound is not in sync...
th0r615 said:
When the TouchWiz update comes out expect this tablet to get a lot more media friendly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
don't bet on it. tergra 2 can't handle the throughput of most high profile hd. it can handle some but it's very picky. it also chokes on ac3 and has a hard time with aac multichannel sound. i have some multichanel files that'll play and some won't.
tegra 2 is no media powerhouse. imho the archos 101 is still the best for all the files it can play, but it's quality is lackluster... and the screen sucks.
It doesn't do it natively, but MoboPlayer is a great app (free) for it. It will handle 720p MKV no problem.
it can handle some 720p mkv. its very hard to make a general statement for files higher than main profile and 2 channel sound.
tegra is limited on media playback. check all the other tegra 2 forums. this is the reason boxee box dropped tegra 2.
don't get me wrong, I love the tablet, but there are some limitations to expect with media playback. it's not even as goog as the gt7".
madsquabbles said:
it can handle some 720p mkv. its very hard to make a general statement for files higher than main profile and 2 channel sound.
tegra is limited on media playback. check all the other tegra 2 forums. this is the reason boxee box dropped tegra 2.
don't get me wrong, I love the tablet, but there are some limitations to expect with media playback. it's not even as goog as the gt7".
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This.
Tegra 2 has awful performance in alot of areas. Video playback and portrait view basically slow it to a crawl.
xManMythLegend said:
This.
Tegra 2 has awful performance in alot of areas. Video playback and portrait view basically slow it to a crawl.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hardly think portrait view slowing down has to do with the hardware. More likely HC.
I use my tab for MKV's all the time. RockPlayer Lite handles it like a champ. Perfect audio and all. Scrubbing works fine too. Just select software decoding mode when playing the videos
I found a program caled XenonMKV which rips the mp4 out of the mkv container and converts the audio to aac. It's a much faster process since there is no video re-encoding involved and it works 'ok'. It still skips a bit but it at least kind of works smoothly most of the time.
EDIT: tried RockPlayer Lite Software & Hardware and it was still stuttery from time to time. (3500kbps 720p mkv and mp4 from XenonMKV)
I think if you had a Max bitrate of about 3mbps or less and it wasn't AC3 it could do it.
slal said:
It doesn't do it natively, but MoboPlayer is a great app (free) for it. It will handle 720p MKV no problem.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you actually test this ?
I'm very concerned about video support in honeycomb tablets, and in galaxy tab in particular. I don't understand why, but it seems this feature has been left behind in every honeycomb tablet, whereas SGS and SGS 2 handle 720p mkv with hardware acceleration very well in stock video player. I just don't understand what the manufacturers are doing.
I can't even transfer that large of a file on my tab. It hangs and stops at the end. Weird.
Handbrake is free and works like a champ to convert any file. I'm using it on the @pple tv2 settings with some minor tweaks
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1 using Tapatalk
Just watched an mkv last night thanks to vplayer. No problems
im.thatoneguy said:
I think if you had a Max bitrate of about 3mbps or less and it wasn't AC3 it could do it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this. also, if the movie is quite slow (not much of on screen action, etc) i had good results at around 5mbps too and mp3 audio.
Is it possible to play mkv format with 1080p resoloution in galaxy tab 10.1 ?
if so which players could do it?
which softwares are suitable for video convert?
and other video related soloutions for galaxy tab 10.1 to be discussed here
List of available softwares for video convert:
1-Handbrake (free)
Download page
Information page
Tutorial for 10" Display (thanks to buri73 )
2-Any Video Converter (AVC) ($29.95)
Download (trial)
Information page
3-DVD Catalyst ($9.95)
Download (trial)
Information page
4-Aiseesoft Blu ray Ripper ($39)
Download (trial)
Information page
5- ...
Recommended Video player applications on honeycomb :
1- MoboPlayer
2-...
No, and besides what's the point? The screen is not even 1080p. You can try Moboplayer and see what happens. Best advice is to recode the file down to 720p mp4. Try Handbrake or Freemake.
LordLugard said:
No, and besides what's the point? The screen is not even 1080p. You can try Moboplayer and see what happens. Best advice is to recode the file down to 720p mp4. Try Handbrake or Freemake.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dont have the tablet yet but I'm going to buy and doing some research now,
how if we dont convert the file format ? is it possible to watch or is it laggy?
does the sound and the screen match?
Why would you do that?
The screen resolution is not even 1080 pixel height.
Don't you know that?
It's a waste of resources.
Try to get 720p instead.
taha_e said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to play mkv format with 1080p resoloution in galaxy tab 10.1 ?
if so which players could do it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
taha_e said:
I dont have the tablet yet but I'm going to buy and doing some research now,
how if we dont convert the file format ? is it possible to watch or is it laggy?
does the sound and the screen match?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let me know what your research shows. I've been converting blu ray and mkv into 720p mp4 using DVD catalyst 4, real simple setup. From what I found out, mkv files do not work on any tablets because mkv is a container. If you convert it to mp4 then any tablet can handle it, including my phone galaxy s captivate . Takes me an average of 3-4 minutes per TV show and 10-20 on a movie. I stopped encoding at 1080p because there was not much difference other than size of file.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using XDA Premium App
they work but not with high profile settings. you need to reduce them.
you can google what high profile for mkv is.
The answers you are looking for: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
mkv is not a format, its a container for H.264 format.
You should be asking "is it possible to play 1080p H.264 in the galaxy tab 10.1?"
The answer is yes BUT (and a BIG BUT) you can only do so if the H.264 file is encoded in the old H.264 baseline profile which nobody uses anymore.
Tegra 2s video accelerator is way to slow to play H.264 videos that are encoded in the popular Main/High profiles which everyone uses today. Yes its unfortunate but you have to recode all your videos to baseline profile if you want to watch on ANY tegra 2 based units.
5thElement said:
mkv is not a format, its a container for H.264 format.
You should be asking "is it possible to play 1080p H.264 in the galaxy tab 10.1?"
The answer is yes BUT (and a BIG BUT) you can only do so if the H.264 file is encoded in the old H.264 baseline profile which nobody uses anymore.
Tegra 2s video accelerator is way to slow to play H.264 videos that are encoded in the popular Main/High profiles which everyone uses today. Yes its unfortunate but you have to recode all your videos to baseline profile if you want to watch on ANY tegra 2 based units.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The tab, along with every other Honeycomb 3.1, tegra 2 device plays H.264 high profile 720p and main profile 1080p video just fine.
Although given the screen resolution, playing back 1080p video of any profile is pointless.
hoodoomagic said:
The tab, along with every other Honeycomb 3.1, tegra 2 device plays H.264 high profile 720p and main profile 1080p video just fine.
Although given the screen resolution, playing back 1080p video of any profile is pointless.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Correct it CAN play them back but at only very low bitrate and 1080p is not pointless since you can hookup to TV or monitor via HDMI
I did some testing on bitrates for the Teg2 at 720p HP here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15054949&postcount=250
it does OK at 6Mb/s, and chugs when bits hit 10Mb/s. 6Mb/s avg is about the ceiling for most 720p videos, so one can generalize that the Teg2, at HC3.1, will play a fair number of 720 H264 HP videos (in MP4 format). Ruminations are that HC3.2 will speed things up a bit further.
The clip, along with others, are here if anyone wants to try them:
http://www.mediafire.com/?depxt4zyvpwel
I've played with h.264 video on the Gtab, Use Baseline profile for best results. I've done some encoding in High Profile, and baseline, and compared screen captures, and you can't tell the difference, it has mostly to do with Compression, the higher your Profile (Ref Frames, B Frames, CABAC) the smaller your video file will be without suffering Quality lose. Just that higher profile requires more horsepower to decode, which Tegra 2 does not have.
hmm samsung should have gone with the SGS II guts. It plays pretty much whatever you throw at it
ph00ny said:
hmm samsung should have gone with the SGS II guts. It plays pretty much whatever you throw at it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Honeycomb only supports Tegra 2 CPUs. HC 3.2 brings support for Qualcomm CPUs. I could only wish this thing had the SGSII CPU.
Yeah, much as I like my Tab, I always feel like I'm taking a step back when I use it after using my SGS2...both in speed and display. I'd queue up in the pouring rain for a week to get a SAMOLED tablet.
5thElement said:
mkv is not a format, its a container for H.264 format.
Tegra 2s video accelerator is way to slow to play H.264 videos that are encoded in the popular Main/High profiles which everyone uses today. Yes its unfortunate but you have to recode all your videos to baseline profile if you want to watch on ANY tegra 2 based units.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which explains why I am playing 720p24 high profile h.264 with no problems. Oh. Wait. No it doesn't.
Tegra 2 can handle high profile fine at 720p as long as you avoid wighted p frames. However the stock player does not. Enter diceplayer, built on the NDK and supporting all T2 decode capabilities. The stock player is totally borked.
1080p however is another problem. But you'll probably hit the fat32 4GB file size limit with those anyway before you encounter issues with high profile content. None of my 1080p MKVs will fit on the device anyway due to the fat32 limitation, so transcoding it pretty much a given. So I tend to go to 540p or even 480p just to save space. The screen is small, and while I can tell the diffeence between a clean 720p encode and 480p it doesn't bother me in this scenario. And if you drop down to 480p weighted p frames work again.
So, essentially Mr. Element, you don't what the hell you're talking about.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using XDA Premium App
I can only support what ianken said. I can play 720p hig profile just fine with Diceplayer.
Here is a test clip to see on your own. http://www.multiupload.com/CJU6YB5JC3
It is in High 4.1 Format
just thought id let you know it does play 720p mkv files just fine (tested on my galaxy 7" with no skipping or slowness at all) assuming since it works on the 7" the 10" wouldnt have any issues with it.
Danstek said:
Honeycomb only supports Tegra 2 CPUs. HC 3.2 brings support for Qualcomm CPUs. I could only wish this thing had the SGSII CPU.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not entire true since manufacturers can add their own drivers to the OS
I highly doubt gingerbread is tailored to a single platform
bilsmaks said:
just thought id let you know it does play 720p mkv files just fine (tested on my galaxy 7" with no skipping or slowness at all) assuming since it works on the 7" the 10" wouldnt have any issues with it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm can play 720p high profile without any issues on Galaxy S Captivated. Gtab 10.1 and other HC tablets are using tegra2, that has some issues playing mkv high profile 720p. So far maker of diceplayer are the only one who have figured out how to make use of tegra2 to decode high profile 720p.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using XDA Premium App
I've tried MX player, rock player and the default video player to playback my 1080p videos but they all still lag and play slowly. All videos are in mp4. Are there any apps out there that would be able to do this?
Cheers
try out dice player, and overclock, if ur tf is rooted, should be able to play smoothly. anyway I believe there are threads ard discussing this, please go do a search for them.
darkstar09 said:
I've tried MX player, rock player and the default video player to playback my 1080p videos but they all still lag and play slowly. All videos are in mp4. Are there any apps out there that would be able to do this?
Cheers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dice player is the best by far IMO, even gets rid of the home and back buttons illuminating.
It plays mkv files and I have files over 3gb which also play without any problems.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.dice&hl=en
Just for fun I searched this forum for "1080p" in the thread title only. This doesn't include all the other random ways someone has asked this exact same question at least 100 other times.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1251784&highlight=1080p
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051629&highlight=1080p
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1199268&highlight=1080p
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192865&highlight=1080p
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121428&highlight=1080p
And there are more. I believe on of the rules of xda is to search first and I know it asks if you have searched for existing threads before you start a new one. Granted it searches all of xda to show you threads but the search button is easily found and searches a specific forum.
This is the first rule of xda
1. Search before posting.
I guarantee this has been asked and answered many times this week alone
not sure about 1080p that's going to be hit and miss especially if you have big file sizes.
I'm using revolver 3.2 at 1.3 and can confirm 720p playback with file sizes of 3 gig or so play perfectly with dice player.
This can play back 1080P files just fine....DEPENDING on the bitrate. It's a limitation of Tegra 2. If the bitrate is high, it will have problems. Just like 720P files with really high bitrates have the same limitations.
Honestly, why does it matter? If you're outputting through HDMI to watch things, then I can kinda understand, but the screen itself only supports 720P. Why bother with 1080P?
Just out of curiosity, does overclocking improve video playback?
darkhawkff said:
This can play back 1080P files just fine....DEPENDING on the bitrate. It's a limitation of Tegra 2. If the bitrate is high, it will have problems. Just like 720P files with really high bitrates have the same limitations.
Honestly, why does it matter? If you're outputting through HDMI to watch things, then I can kinda understand, but the screen itself only supports 720P. Why bother with 1080P?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bitrate, uh?
How much is "really high"? 10mbps? 16mbps? and why the lower the resolution the higher the bitrate it can handle, if I got your post right?
Nah. I have a 1080p file, 16mbps. Plays well without overclock. I have another 1080p file, 10mbps, dosen't play well even at 1.6ghz. 720p file, still 10mbps, needs overclock (even 1.2ghz is enough). The difference between them? the kind of encoding. All this with Diceplayer, not the horrid Rockplayer, mind you.
Diceplayer works on most of my DSLR footage 1080 with 40-60datarate
AlexTheStampede said:
Bitrate, uh?
How much is "really high"? 10mbps? 16mbps? and why the lower the resolution the higher the bitrate it can handle, if I got your post right?
Nah. I have a 1080p file, 16mbps. Plays well without overclock. I have another 1080p file, 10mbps, dosen't play well even at 1.6ghz. 720p file, still 10mbps, needs overclock (even 1.2ghz is enough). The difference between them? the kind of encoding. All this with Diceplayer, not the horrid Rockplayer, mind you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm struggling with 720p encoded @L4. 1.. Mostly all L3. 1 plays nice in diceplayer.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
If I remember correctly, movies encoded in High Profile will not play back well. Main Profile is the best this machine can handle. I believe it's a Tegra 2 limitation in general.
CptJimmy said:
If I remember correctly, movies encoded in High Profile will not play back well. Main Profile is the best this machine can handle. I believe it's a Tegra 2 limitation in general.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, high L3. 1 is ok with some oc.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
hairyonion said:
not sure about 1080p that's going to be hit and miss especially if you have big file sizes.
I'm using revolver 3.2 at 1.3 and can confirm 720p playback with file sizes of 3 gig or so play perfectly with dice player.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let me comment on that:
LOL
Without OC, DICE player (and transformer itself) can only play Level3.1 content and it will slideshow on 99% of internet standard (scene) releases. If you think 'plays perfectly', then you're brain and eyesight damaged.
With OC, you can play play simple 720p content (think WebDL releases) with decent quality (though they will still drop frames in more complex scenes), but more complex releases (think blueray rips) will drop frames on most scenes and slideshow totally on more complex ones.
You would have to be really lucky to find a 1080p movie that will play. Many won't open at all, rest will be dropping frames constantly. When ASUS said that 3.1 update make 1080p playback possible, by playback they meant rendering first frame of the movie.
Dice player is the best
go for it
As mentioned on the other posts about HD playback, the hardware decode of 720p or 1080p H264 with AAC is currently broken in 3.2. Worked fine in 3.1, then got broke. Asus are aware of it and have promised a fix.
If you have such files (e.g. BBC iPlayer HD content) then no player will be able to play them back smoothly as software decode simply can't handle them. Only option is to either transcode or downgrade to HC3.1 to get hardware decode back.
Let's hope the fix is not far off now.
bro just play 720p. trust me you THINK you can tell the difference between 720 and 1080 on a 10' screen but you cant......unless your not human
uploder said:
bro just play 720p. trust me you THINK you can tell the difference between 720 and 1080 on a 10' screen but you cant......unless your not human
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, there cannot possibly exist a difference between displaying 720p and 1080p on a 1280x800 screen, since all 1080p content would be scaled down to 720p. Where 1080p would actually matter is if you often connect to a big monitor or HDTV that is capable of 1080p, such as I do on a regular basis for when I want to watch movies without having to boot up my desktop computer. There is definitely a noticeable difference between 720p videos I've converted with Handbrake and the actual 1080p Blu ray movies, but it's not really a big deal for me.
My suggestion for those truly concerned about high quality 1080p playback would be to buy a netbook equipped with a Nvidia ION or comparable video chipset, as I have had no issues playing Blu ray from my own ION-equipped nettop.
yeah my MX player would lag like crazy. Dice is the way to go!
earlyberd said:
Well, there cannot possibly exist a difference between displaying 720p and 1080p on a 1280x800 screen, since all 1080p content would be scaled down to 720p. Where 1080p would actually matter is if you often connect to a big monitor or HDTV that is capable of 1080p, such as I do on a regular basis for when I want to watch movies without having to boot up my desktop computer...........
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ah i see. then YES. there would definitely be a difference. I just assumed you were watching directly on the TF. my mistake